| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/5/2008 1:47:43 PM |
I've read them all, and I understand what they call a mystery to be really a group-think delusion that shall remain unnamed at this time...
Iv'e read nearly all the books on the former subjects and I understand what scientists call a mystery to really be the paradym of a group think delusion. The paradym is called: The enigma of the origin of the moon and earth during the late heavy bombardment of our early solar system, 4.5 billion years ago. The group think delusion shall remain unnamed for the time being.
Do you subscribe to the belief that there was once a planetesimal blob of rock located where the asteroid belt is today? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/5/2008 4:35:05 PM |
Do you subscribe to the belief that there was once a planetesimal blob of rock located where the asteroid belt is today?
Can't say that I know whether there was such a blob
Do you subscribe to the belief that there is a rogue planet that will hit us in 2012? Can't say I do, but have you run across it in your readings, since you seem to be into that sort of thing? There's another thread on that topic and I suppose if you believe it it could be considered a threat to humankind. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/6/2008 11:11:40 AM | | THE GREATEST THREAT TO HUMAN KIND IS THE HUMANS THEM SELVES. WE DESTROY OUR OWN PLANET, USE UP OUR RESOURCES AND POLLUTE OUR ENVIRONMENT. BLAME THE PRESIDENT AND THE POLITICIANS AND BIG CORPORATIONS. BLAME THE PEOPLE. -DRE | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/6/2008 5:20:58 PM |
Greatest threat to mankind?
Man himself.
Have you ever locked your door because an animal might steal your TV? Have you ever been afraid that beavers or squirrels one day might develop nuclear weapons and take out humanity? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/7/2008 11:20:04 AM | ^^^^^
doesnt get it. talking about the greatist threat to man but not mankind. which i think alot of people are doing here.
man-threat to a person. mankind the whole species.
i may not be affirad of a animal stealing my tv. but thats kinda a stupid comment. will a coon steal things from you?yes....do i hand my food when camping to not attract a bear?yes
you only dont fear aniamls cause you live in a mordern world. and in the mordern world animals will still be a factor. exaple afrianized honey bees.
if fear is bad then why is it one of our greatist strnghts when it comes to a survial case. fear can case man to move faster, and make split second choices. the only time the human body can use its self to full 100%. wacth the discovey channel they have great shows showing what the human body is capable.
it was fear of the dark that lead man to fire, fear of small pox thet eleminated it. fear of death that makes a man fight with every last breath.
really im pretty sure nukes couldnt destroy everything. the halflife isnt all that long. plus in the event of a full out war, the first tagets are going to be a strike to cripple the other countries silos. leaving only a inefictive 2nd attack with most already destroyed in the first attack.
plus still alot wouldnt be near the strike zone, so would just have to deal with a nuclear winter. which im sure would be havok and many would die. but what about all the nuclear subs in the waters that dont neeed to surface for months. so maybe populatin at worst drops to 10% but as many say thats getting around ideal for population. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/7/2008 2:36:55 PM | I'm posting late and haven't read all of the responses, but steven hawkenings reply was
cloning is the single greatest threat to the survival of our species . Imagine the class struggle
created by the haves, who's children are all are 50% smarter than the have nots kid's.
Certainly no one is terrified by the idea of little johnny having grandpa's cleft chin or little susie having her mothers nose,but what about a child born with the eyesight of a hawk or the olfactory sense of a bear. You may laugh at these notions, but theoretically they are possible. Once the foreign dna enters the human gene pool it is passed down from generation to generation. With the inherent avarice of man it's not hard to imagine the Joneses keeping up with each other's folly until man exists no more. Having become a blend of every plant and animal on earth. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/7/2008 3:47:54 PM |
Has anyone said this one yet: "womankind"??
According to the May 2008 issue of the Astronomy Magazine(that's being sold right now(Astronomy.com)), p.32 "How Earth's big impact made the moon". The story reads: "...(Robin)Canup found the best collisions require a relatively low speed -- no more than about 22,400 mph (36,oo km/h) -- and an impact angle near 45 degrees. The collision poduces a disk containing up to twice the moon's mass and composed largely of material from the impactor.
By including rotation in the simulations, Canup discovered the best results came if, before the Moon-forming collision, Earth spun in the opposite direction from normal solar system motion -- and opposite the way it spins today. The backward rotation reduces the Earth-Moon system's angular momentum to what we see today. The simulations couldn't produce this outcome if the early Earth wasn't spinning, or spun in the same dirction it does today."
A backward rotating proto-Earth? Um, if that is/was true then how did the proto-Earth start out rotating backwards? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/7/2008 4:14:00 PM |
you only dont fear aniamls cause you live in a mordern world.
lol... that' s quite presumptuous on your part, don't you think? I could be witting this from the rural areas of India. I'm not, but I have been in the wild for over 14 years. I have seen bears, wolfs, poisonous snakes, etc. I have milked cows, goats, sheep. I have lived off the land. Raised chicken, pigs, horses, and chopped wood. Now I'm in the modern world, but I do know a thing or two about the real state of matters.
And you are right, I don't get it. Nuclear missiles are not man created. Viruses are not produced in laboratories. Pollution is not the result of cars, factories, refineries, etc. Trees cut down themselves. So yeah, lets talk about everything else but, man - the thing common among all.
Look, as far as I'm concerned, nature has been kind to man, otherwise he wouldn't be here. Therefore, I exclude nature as the greatest thread to man. So what's really left? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/7/2008 5:47:49 PM | dont try and put words in other people's mouth man.
when did i say nature is the greatist threat? i didnt
i just simply took the counter point on you. and i will say for a fact that anyone posting on here lives in the morden world...how may i say that? you have a computer and the internet.....kinda says alot doesnt it? if you have electricty your not living off the land. you are using technolagy to survive.
before your 14 years did you ever in your life see a dr? get a flu sho? take medication? all great things that man has made.
man is nature. has not been kind or mean. we are who we are do do us changing and making ourselves who we are. with humans being one of the only speices that can live anywhere on earth, nature is a nertual kind of thing to man.
viruses may be produced in some labs, but correct me if im wrong the black plague that ran havok on man, was not made in a lab was it?''
i dont know why so frustrated you sound. i just simply am saying all you people are way to fearfull.
really why does there have to be a greatist threat? are people acuttaly saying that they think these little events are first of all likley? and 2nd going to wipe out mankind?
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your 25 man so 14 years in the wild eh? lived in the wild from where you were 11? just may i ask what do you consider the wild? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/8/2008 7:29:54 PM |
dont try and put words in other people's mouth man.
I was not aware I was.
when did i say nature is the greatist threat? i didnt
You didn't. I was simply stating my own opinion/view.
i just simply took the counter point on you.
Excellent! That makes for an interesting discussion.
and i will say for a fact that anyone posting on here lives in the morden world...how may i say that? you have a computer and the internet.....kinda says alot doesnt it?
For the most part you are right.
man is nature.
I share the same view. I think some of my threads make this exact same point.
with humans being one of the only speices that can live anywhere on earth, nature is a nertual kind of thing to man.
Here is where I disagree with you. Though I respect your view.
viruses may be produced in some labs, but correct me if im wrong the black plague that ran havok on man, was not made in a lab was it?''
You are right. But this is one counter-example. You can also point out earth quakes, tsunamis, tornadoes, etc. Add those up, then add up man created threats, and compare the two. We are looking for the greatest threat, right?
i dont know why so frustrated you sound. i just simply am saying all you people are way to fearfull.
Frustrated? Far form. I like to make my point in a direct and clear fashion. Sometimes I use jokes, logical arguments, exaggeration, etc. Fearful? You can see my response to fear in this thread: http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts9666616.aspx
really why does there have to be a greatist threat?
There doesn't have to be. But there is. As I said, I think man himself is the greatest threat to himself. That's my own personal view. Of course, there are other threats to man kind.
are people acuttaly saying that they think these little events are first of all likley? and 2nd going to wipe out mankind?
Have you studies physics or history? Have you heard of Chernobyl or Hiroshima? Are you aware that US has a preemptive nuclear strike program? That's way I made this joke:
Have you ever been afraid that beavers or squirrels one day might develop nuclear weapons and take out humanity?
your 25 man so 14 years in the wild eh? lived in the wild from where you were 11? just may i ask what do you consider the wild?
Actually since 1. I was born in a big city, but then had to go live with my grandparents in a remote European village.
What do I consider the wild? Basically places where you have to live off the land, and where your main transportation is a horse. Places where you can hear the wolfs at night, see stars by the millions, catch fireflies, and have fun with echoes for hours on end. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/9/2008 8:31:55 PM | The greatest threat to mankind is certainty--certainty that we have some right to decide what is right and wrong. We impose our beliefs upon everyone else, assuming that we are correct in our assumptions. I am not directly referring to religion in this, but it does play a part; I am more so referring to law than anything really. Every minuscule aspect of our lives is regulated by unwavering laws that someone deemed to be the way things should be. That's not to say we should become an Anarchistic state--certainly things like murder are blatantly wrong, but is it murder when a mother has to abort her unborn child or they will both die? Is it theft when I download music on the internet to see if it's actually any good? According to the law it is, but why would I buy a CD if I have no idea what it sounds like? Some might say to go listen to it at a record store, but really; how much of the great music of the world can be found at your local record store? There is millions of episodes of anime that have surfaced on the internet and been translated by multilingual fans of the show...it's illegal to download it, but I do it anyway because there is no legal way that I can have access to it.
I fear some of the greatest pieces of art in the history of mankind will never be seen by the majority of the world because it's audience will be narrowed to it's place of origin. But moreso, I fear the greatest piece of art will never leave the mind of it's creator because of people's narrow-minded notions of what is and is not acceptable. Anything can be right if it has meaning. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/10/2008 8:08:55 AM |
Greed, hatred and delusion of grandeur
And what do those things belong to? That is, what is capable of that? Isn't man himself? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/10/2008 8:16:02 AM | | I agree with Sam Harris. In order to answer the question effectively, you need to find a common denominator. How many times have we done something without thinking and regretted it later? It is our ego that justifies the lack of reason. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/10/2008 8:21:15 AM |
The greatest threat to mankind is certainty--certainty that we have some right to decide what is right and wrong.
If you think about your sentence for couple of minutes you will realize you are indirectly describing ignorance. For ignorance is when one believes one can be certain about right and wrong when that's not the case. Certainty, in most cases, presupposes ignorance. Therefore, the greatest threat to man is himself, and in particular his ignorance. Don't you agree? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/10/2008 6:52:05 PM | At the Moment, In no particalar order:
Ethnic Strife/Genocides
HIV/AIDS
malnutrition/Starvation
Poor Living Conditions/Lack of Infrastructure (Untreated Sewage and Water, etc)
Poverty
Those are threats that Terran's Face every day, oh yeah I forgot No one cares about Africa, Everyone has jumped onto flavor of the month called Climate Change. So forget what I said. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/11/2008 2:14:20 PM |
oh yeah I forgot No one cares about Africa,
Which Africa were you talking about? The African genocide in sudan, or the African deforestation of the Madagascar sub-continent, or the African desertification of the western saharra region, or the African nomadic existence of the San Bushmen in the Namib desert? | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:28:28 PM | | Agreed. Religions would be my #1 on the threat list. However, the biggest threat could be mankind itself, in a general manner. I foresee that kind of super bacteria/virus will eventually strike as well, that's just bound to happen with the population always growing, and while we constantly discover new drugs antivirals and antibiotics, I'm sure these little bugs still have a few surprises for us. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/12/2008 6:50:15 PM | From what I have seen in my short life, the greatest threat to mankind is not finishing what we start.
I feel that mankind is making progress. Quote me on that if you want. If we can see what it is we are screwing up and (as a society) attempt to fix it, then we are doing good. That shows the human perseverance and compassion. Two special qualities that push us to do better.
So in my eyes, the only doubt about our future is giving up on it. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/13/2008 9:57:53 PM | This is not a reply, I can't see how to start my own post so this is my ranting.
For those of you in the dark, it appears from evidence I've gathered that another planet in an orbit different than the rest of the planets is headed our way & is predicted to arrive in late 2012 which will supposedly end life as we know it here. Most Of you are likely snickering by now cuz you might've been bit by the false alarm y2k scare. Without going into excruciating detail, if this is coming, the gov't's of the world would certainly be aware and know it would be logisticly impossible to save everyone thus quitely preparing for a select few to survive and rebuild the ruins. Problem is, these will be the same ppl that have screwed this world up to start.
I'm an avid researcher and I dig into everything that has to do that what makes this world tick, politics, science, economics, enviroment, religion, you name it. They all interact with each other in some form.
I'm nobody so whatever I say here is nearly as irrelavent as a street beggars giberish but here's some observations I find intresting.
We think the world is millions of years old but how is that many mountains ranges have sharp peaks where millions of years of the elements should have smoothed them down, topsoil has a predictable growth rate but the worldwide average is only 6 inches, far less than a planet as old as we think. Just these 2 items indicate that this earth is either not as old as we are told or 1 or more cataclismyc events have occurred in this planets history wiping out all that occupied it.
Why has our gov't put us so far in debt that it's physically impossible to get out of it and placing our country & resources as collateral for it. I guess you didn't hear the traiter acting as our president bush signed an agreement to join us with Canada & Mexico as 1 super nation. How does that grab ya, huh? Could it be that those in the know, know that debt will never be collected.
Have you noticed the sharp rise in food prices & oil, I talk with ppl all over the world on the net and this is not happenning only here. Could it be resources are being horded for surviving some sort of devastating aftermath?
The sun recently spit out an ejection that if we had been in the path of, would've crispy fried the part of the earth facing it. Could another heavenly body be playing havoc on the natural dynamics of our solar system?
Maybe you haven't noticed the high altitude jets leaving trails that years ago disappeared seconds behind them but now linger and expand to form artificial clouds. I know what they are composed of and you don't want to know cuz it would upset your cozy little bubble.
Folks, these are only a few observations but if I could portray most of them, any person with simple logic could come to the conclusion that something big is going down.
I don't know about you but I know & you should by now that this and most other gov't's are corrupt, can no longer be trusted and have an adgenda contrary to the well being we the ppl.
I'm preparing for the possibility of this catastrophy. If this planet passby happens and I survive it, I hope to be a part of rebuilding this world and preventing the mistakes of our past from ever plaguing future generations.
I'm looking forward to it cleansing the scurge that has infested our planet and it would be nice if I could land a gal with a like mindset to travel down this path with me too. Cheers! | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/14/2008 7:54:16 AM | to expand on the man being the threat to mankind
and greed , ego and tribalism being the greattest reasons inside that
these things lead to not giving enough compassion and creedance to other people
then creating all kinds of weapons [atomic and biological and chemical etc.]
also in the byproduct of consumer greed... pollution ... spread through the developing world.
then spreading people around the whole world.. and with education developing a desire for all to be like us privilaged rich consumers... we now over develop ... over pollute and the fight over it all to the point of extinction. [not just extincting us ... but much of the rest of life too]
that is the conceived threat of man to mankind.
now to the ... you people are too fearful [parinoid] ..... well that is just the subject/topic of this thread and ... there is no other way to answer the question. ... so get real.
and just answer the forum thread question ... or leave it alone. | |
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| Greatest threat to mankind?
Posted: 4/14/2008 8:03:04 AM | I'm an avid researcher and I dig into everything that has to do that what makes this world tick, politics, science, economics, environment, religion, you name it. They all interact with each other in some form.
I'm nobody so whatever I say here is nearly as irrelevant as a street beggars gibberish but here's some observations I find interesting.
We think the world is millions of years old but how is that many mountains ranges have sharp peaks where millions of years of the elements should have smoothed them down, topsoil has a predictable growth rate but the worldwide average is only 6 inches, far less than a planet as old as we think. Just these 2 items indicate that this earth is either not as old as we are told or 1 or more cataclysmic events have occurred in this planets history wiping out all that occupied it.
for an avid researcher you don't understand what you read very well.
we don't think the world is millions of years old.... its 4.5 billion years old
the mountains weren't formed when the earth was formed.
they are still growing and some are being eroded away.
the north of Ontario and Quebec [called the Shield] were mountains that were larger than any that are on earth today.... the ice ages tore the tops off and ground them down to smooth old rock .... letting us see fossils from over a hundred million years ago.
now topsoil .... washes away very fast ... and glaciers did one hell of a job of redistributing the soil and sand of the northern hemisphere ... that was only 15 to 100 thousand years ago.
the rocks you call sandstone once were beaches .... limestone was the sediment at the bottom of oceans .... now go read some more and actually try to understand what they are saying.
from geological evidence there have been many mass extinction’s in the past.
it is most likely one will happen in the future.
the death of mankind will probably occur during one of them
T-Rex is gone ... [the band too]
Nemesis ..the rogue planet ... we will see real soon if that is the case
large asteroids are all we need ... not a planet.
the eruption of Yellowstone combined with human parinoia causing nuclear war
maybe throwing us into another ice age ... though we survived the last one.
its all just sci-fi at this point.
enjoy the mind expanding fantasy of it. | |
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