eman07
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/11/2007 7:05:12 PM | | sjm... ill give you that the Gators haven't played anybody yet! however they don't have to their conference is plenty tuff! the Irish however schedule the service academies and Duke? DUKE? cummon bro the basketball team at Duke would be a great NON conference game for ND. your Notre freaking Dame you play on Nation TV every week! and your scheduling DUKE? running the Penn State, GT smack that they will win their conferences? that's just a domer trying to put a positive spin on the ass beating you have taken the last THREE times the nation has seen you play! I know my Gators are very young and wont run thru the SEC undefeated, but last year proved it. you don't have to, to win the big games! keep in mind UF will play a much stronger schedule than ND this year, and keep in mind they scheduled GT at HOME to WIN that game! at least when UF brings in a cream puff they WIN the game! bottom line guy when your ND you need and MUST schedule the biggest games. this tradition of Navy, Army, Air Force, or who ever else you put on the schedule, besides Michigan and USC who do you REALLY play? gone are the days of Lou Holtz bringing in the Hurricanes and going down to FSU? if ND is ever going to get back to a perennial top 10 team they must start playing these teams again! bottom line i hate the Irish, but its good for college football for them to be good! next don't go running the we cant recruit players like USC, LSU, UF, OSU, MICH, "they couldn't get in to school here" smack! you know that's just a way to cover up that those kids don't want to come there anyway! ND is a great school and a great place to be I'm sure, but they wont lower their academic minimums and thus loose out on a few kids, but don't use that as a reason you loose to GT. or any other school you should be beating on talent available alone. | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/11/2007 11:05:07 PM | | yeah you can give us crap about that, duke is on our schedule. but the thing is all these "easy team" as you put it dont show up on our schedule till week 9 or 10 i think there's a bye week in there somewhere. and yeah the sec is very tough but there's plenty of teams in that conference that are pretty easy compared to others. for example look what lsu did to miss. state, 45-0. even though there's some really good teams in that conference, they're not all powerhouses. and as for your "they can't get into school here" comment, it is true and those recruits will go somewhere else that will let them in regardless of sat scores, grades, ect. and why should ND lower there standards. not all these guys will play in the nfl so the classroom is just as important in college as football. and i've accepted that that's the way it goes because hey, what can i do about? absolutely nothing! like i said before this ND team is very young and it shows but thats no reason to bash them. i gave a fair warning about team bashing on this thread and all i've seen is bash bash bash. mainly on ND but i've seen some for michigan too. thats not cool. this thread is to "discuss" football not bash teams. but people like you agatorboy and a few others have to come on here and start trouble. show some respect. | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/12/2007 7:03:23 PM | the big 10 doesn't get kids ready any better than other conferences do!
Percent of NFL players by conference in '05
SEC states -- 31.66%
ACC states -- 26.95%
Big East states - 24.35%
Big 10 states -- 20.46%
Big 12 states -- 17.04%
Pac 10 states -- 16.33%
although i cant take the credit rivals.com did the leg work. as far as smacking the Irish as a ND fan you should know there is a love hate relationship with those guys in this country, i have a lot of friends who love them, but most guys either really like them or really hate them, and its great for debate and great for college football. ill give ND all the credit they deserve, they have their own TV network, they manage to get into BSC bowl games they don't belong in, and they somehow manage to wind up at the end of the year every year in the top 25? | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/12/2007 9:37:15 PM | colleges that produce the most nfl players. tennessee is the only team from your sec in the top ten. there are three micigan, ohio st. and penn state from the big ten and the irish are first. look it up and take my word for it i am NO irish fan. and never will be | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 1:55:17 AM | | oh yeah some real debate, its like listening to a bunch of mark mays on this thread, a thread that i started nonetheless. talk about spitting in someone's face. who are you agatorboy to say the irish don't deserve to be in a bcs game? i know how recruiting across the country goes and i hate it but i've accepted it. so if i can accept that then you accept the way things work with ND when it comes to the bcs. the committee obviously really wants them to be there in any way possible because they know ND has the biggest fan base in the country, highest merchandise sales, most well know prestige, so they make these deals with ND. and if it gripes your ass, well too bad. its too bad we only get the ND haters on these forums, instead of all the ND fans. | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 4:21:50 AM | | my reasons for disliking the irish are many. but one of them is when the team is doing lousy nbc still has them on. i don't blame the dames for making the deal mind you. but they are the big target and i enjoy watching them fail. another reason is my deep rooted dislike for punk ass joe theismann. but perhaps my main reason is the notre dame fans. before last year for example people on these very pages had the irish playing for the "title" and brady quinn winning every award known to man. they are every bit if not more delusional than the average sec fan. | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 1:13:40 PM | | well its no different then tbs having deals with the pac 10 and big 12 conferences. there's a lot of teams from both those conferences that aren't that great but tbs still shows them. so you see its no different with nbc and the irish. and ND fans are no different than any other school's fans. you dont think michigan fans dont come on and say things like that, ohio state? usc? louisville? georgia? the list goes on. i didn't know getting behind your team and hoping they do well is bad. i saw some of these forums last year too, and i don't remember seeing anybody "guarantee" ND doing anything, they just wanted it to happen. | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 1:33:03 PM | Did I read this correctly?!?!?
FILTHY is suggesting we take his word for it???LMAOLMAO
The SAME filthy who wants the NAME of the NFL official I quoted in another thread?
The SAME filthy who knocks the source of someone else's quotes and links, but NEVER provides any support for hos OWN argument?
The SAME filthy who tells you to 'look iy up', but doesn't reference WHERE he got his info.
TOO DAMN FUNNY!!!  | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 2:01:16 PM | | flthy ramirez is our local village idiot I guess... sometimes he does make me laugh though. | |
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Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 62 | |
| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 3:00:03 PM | anyone else think that usc will completly destroy the overrated cornhuskers this week?
here are some games i really do like ....(i gamble...be careful)
washington is getting 4 at home against ohio state......
I think this is a stone cold lock...washington will not only cover, but may win this game outright.....
usc is only laying 10 agains the corn holes of nebraska....
take usc give away 10 points..and thank me later for having more money in your pocket....this game will be over at halftime...just a matter of when usc calls off the dogs...but will cover 10 EASILY.... | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 5:13:39 PM | | the committee obviously really wants them to be there in any way possible because they know ND has the biggest fan base in the country, highest merchandise sales, most well know prestige------ you said it exactly! COMMITTEE decides things and that's the way it is, and BTW i DONT have to accept it! committee's shouldn't decide who goes to BCS bowl games PLAYERS on the field should! and if you think you can run that they belong because a committee put them there for ALL the wrong reasons IE ticket sales. merchandise sales, and TV viewing, you really don't get the point at all. they didn't deserve to be there because they were NOT one of the top teams in the country! and the score proved that! ND hasn't won a BCS bowl game yet! in fact they have been worked every time if my memory serves me correctly. so me saying they don't belong in those games is simply me reading the scoreboard and watching the games and making a simple observation that they DONT belong on the same field as their opponents in those games. sjm you cant really say in your true heart of hearts they played like they belonged can you? are you really that delusional? maybe LSU should have ran it up some more to drive the point home! the point I'm trying to make and yes ND finds themselves right in the middle of the debate is yes the system is flawed and we all know it is, but just accepting it and taking it for status quo is wrong! i think all of us agree a true championship should be decided on the field, not buy how fat someones pockets are going to get because they put a team in a game that should go to a team more deserving. | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 5:43:01 PM | | i used to be a big "decide it on the field guy" but i'm not so sure these days. before the bcs things always had a way of shaking out at the end of the season. except for the year nixon screwed penn st. and i'm aware of more d-1 schools and more money for everbody........etc. but with the current system you do have teams that don't belong in a bowl game. not just the dames. and i'm wondering with a playoff, 4 teams? just 2 for a championship? i don't know what the format would be but would that then mean that the other major bowls would be without a game at all or just a meaningless one? i'm just not so sure where i stand on that issue these days | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 5:53:49 PM | | 16 team playoff 8 conference champs and 8 at large and making the bowl season any more meaningless, you mean as apposed to how its so meaningful now right? keep in mind im not giving every conf champ a guaranteed spot if u win the sun belt conf doesnt mean your in, if your top 16 then you have a chance! | |
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Posted: 9/13/2007 7:51:07 PM | | no denying what the scores were in those bcs games the irish have played in. but agatorboy if you really watched those games like you said you did, then you would also have realized that the irish did hang around for a while until the end. it was a one score game through the 3rd quarter against ohio state and it was a one score game well through the 3rd quarter against lsu. and personally, if charlie didn't stop giving the ball to darius walker in that game i think that score would have been a little closer than it looked. but yes i'm well aware of what the final scores were in those games. you want to talk about fairness lets not forget in the 2002-2003 season florida state went to the sugar bowl with an 8-4 record and if i'm not mistaken, we beat them that year. but yet we go 10-2 and get the gator bowl. you say ND doesn't deserve to go with a certain record. look at utah that one year, they didn't play anybody and they ended up getting the fiesta bowl and they ended up playing pitt nonetheless. if ND doesn't deserve the rights they have then i dont think the conferences should have their guarantee spots in the bcs games either. so bottom line there's just as much bullshit with the bcs with the conferences as well as ND(if any). but anyway the irish aren't going to the bcs this year pending some miraculous miracle that i dont think will happen and i've accepted that. so you can dry your eyes now and stop crying like a little baby about how not fair things are with ND and the bcs. | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 8:09:41 PM | | oh i agree gator there are more meaningless bowl games now than you can count. i'm not sold on the idea that a 16 team field could easily have some teams with 3 losses and still compete for the "title". | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 8:38:26 PM | | that scenario could happen but probably wont very often if you use the traditional 1-16 2-15 with the top 8 securing a 1st round home game then using the bowl games for the final 8 and so on. that would mean a 3 loss team would have to go on the road beat a top 8 opponent and then prob 2 others in the top 8 on a neutral field, not likely but if that should ever happen my hat would go off to that team, and i would go as far as to say that they earned it the hard way! IE my point is how many teams with 3 losses are in the top 16 anyway? i haven't done my research yet I'm just rambling but i would dare bet not too many? in my scenario the computer rankings, strength of schedule and so on would all play a factor, so if a team got in with 3 losses, it would be a team that played in a very difficult conference and possibly lost to a top 10 non conference opponent and you might even say that even with the 3 losses they are a very good team. now the smaller teams like the Boise states Hawaii's and so on wouldn't like this because they would prob have to go undefeated then draw a first round game on the road, but that's kinda they way it is now for them anyway right? at least they have a shot at the title, which under the present scenario they have NO shot! | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 8:58:13 PM | | funny sjm however Utah ripped Pitt that year! and definitely deserved like Boise state did this year! don't you see the glaring difference? those teams had to be perfect! and even you have to admit ND get the benefit of the doubt in the BCS in your own words you said it was about sales of tickets and merchandise...... NICE GOING DOMER run the crying about how things aren't fair smack! LOL win a game that matters and this Sat. doesnt count, your playing a wounded duck Michigan team that's 0-2 as well! you don't play anyone now until USC. win a big bowl game or beat USC! something! anything! just win! then you can talk trash. if Charlie was so great he would have figured out how to beat these guys once in a while. maybe he wasn't on Bill Belichcks staff when the taping stuff started...LOL just win a big game domer. schedule more than 1 or 2 big games a year. this is exactly why the love-hate thing exists with ND and the rest of the country, typical ND fan truly believes his/her team belongs in big money bowl games, regardless of how many teams have better records, typical ND fan refuses to see what the rest of us see quite plainly, the media and the committee's think we want to see ND all time. but as for me and prob most of the other ND haters were glad to have y'all come on down to a bowl game and let us beat your ass! please ND fan bring your wallet's we have lots of merchandise for you to purchase while your here, the game doesnt matter just bring the bling! LOL | |
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| UCF takes C-USA
Posted: 9/13/2007 9:37:22 PM | First year with all O'Leary recruits and no "leftovers" (not that a few of those leftovers from the Coach K days weren't dang impressive), brand new on-campus stadium opening this Saturday (tailgating begins at 7am), fan/booster participation at an all-time high with game day activities moving onto the campus, a somewhat experienced quarterback (Kyle Israel), GREATLY improved defense, and a running back who's going to set some national records (Kevin Smith, aka 24K). I think we're poised for an excellent season. The backup QB (Mike Greco) now seems ready to go, which hopefully means that the chances have gone down that we'll have to burn Freshman Joe Weatherford's redshirt (yes, that's Drew's younger brother).
Hopefully, the guys have corrected some of the problems that they had in the second half of the game against NC State in week 1. UCF dominated the first half and had a very disappointing second half (lousy completion record!), but held on to win the game. Last week was a bye week, and this week is the inaugural game in the new stadium against the Texas Longhorns. If by some chance we pull an upset again this week, you'll hear me yelling from WHEREVER you live!
I'm looking for my Knights to take the C-USA Eastern Division again this year as they did the year before last, but to also win the conference championship game this time around. I want them to go to a bowl game, but hopefully one that's a little cheaper to travel to than the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl this time. Actually, I missed that one due to a personal issue. Looking at the bright side... although I missed UCF's first bowl game, I will be there for UCF's first bowl WIN!
But I'm getting ahead of myself. First, I'll be taking in all the excitement of UCF's very first real HOME game this weekend when they open the new stadium. The tailgating will begin at 7am.
Watch for me on ESPN2. 
I'm actually surprised at how few profiles I can pull up with some very basic criteria that are important to me (I'm 5'11", so you might guess that height is one item) and "football" as a keyword. Perhaps guys don't put that in there because they don't think it would interest women? | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/13/2007 9:49:50 PM | | well first gator ass pitt was 8-3 that year and that was out of a weak big east. and you say i cry, you and every other mark may wannabe do nothing but bit@h and bit@h and bit@h about everything with ND from their bcs stipulations to their nbc contract. go cry me a motherfu@king river. and even though the irish aren't having a great season and their bowl past isn't great, i'd much rather be the fan of a team who makes their players go to class and punishes them when they screw up, compared to certain other schools. so gator ass go kill yourself! | |
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| college football season 2007
Posted: 9/14/2007 12:30:23 AM | | Who let the rabid gator out of the swamp? What happened to some good 'ole friendly banter about college football? Sighing, slowly she backs out of room to go to recipes forum to run a search on gator stew. | |
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