| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/27/2007 9:02:18 PM |
I saw the preseason match vs. Carolina today. Won comfortably
Did you see the preseason match when the Bucs kicked N.E. butt. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/27/2007 9:21:08 PM | Preseason is just that. Before the real season begins.
I could care less... sans the injuries. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/27/2007 9:34:05 PM | | thats why you will see a lot of guys not even play next week. but you'll get a good look at that free agent running back from slippery rock or a wide reciever from some corespondence school. they will play well against guys of the same caliber and someone will call in the local talk show and say " i can't believe they cut that guy". i think the steelers get carolina thursday and i doubt if i'll watch it. it will be football at its worst. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/27/2007 10:38:24 PM | "Did you see the preseason match when the Bucs kicked N.E. butt."
Bucs did not kick the Patriots butt. The score was 13-10 with seconds remaining on the game. A smart coach would take a lost before going into OT and like everybody else has said its only preseason. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/28/2007 2:16:20 AM | | overtime in the preseason is a big no-no. it benefits no one. and the officials don't go for it. come to think of it, do they still play overtime in the preseason? | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/28/2007 7:43:19 AM | Hmm...lemme see what I my Swami Book of Football Knowledge and Nonsense says about the Patriots:
First of all, they have to be regarded as a serious contender. In the last 6 years, they have 5 division titles, 4 trips to the AFC Title Game and 3 Lombardi Trophies. That is some serious dominance for sure.
However, I think they seriously blew it with their WR situation. Why would you trade away Deion Branch and then trade to get Randy Moss? I know he broke the golden Patriot rule and held out and Belli hates that (see Ty Law), but I'd much rather have Deion Branch instead of Randy Moss. Folks, this is Randy Moss' 10th season in the NFL and he's been a problem child since day one. I had this same discussion last year with Cowboys fans about TO. Fact is these men are established now as to the types of people they will be and it will take a whole lot more than just changing uniform colors to turn these types of players into Teammate of the Year candidates. Randy Moss will be a problem child on the Patriots because he doesn't know how not to be! This was an absolute boneheaded mistake by what has been a very well run franchise. The decision to throw a rotten apple into this excellent harvest of players really has me dumbfounded and if you believe that a jersey change will suddenly change the personality of an immature man, you are in for a rude awakening.
What really makes no sense is that without Branch or Moss, the Patriots were 2 quarters away from the Super Bowl. They don't need a team cancer to get over the top.
I really think that decision to bring that player to this team will haunt this franchise. Maybe not right away or even this season, but it will happen. After 10 years, Randy Moss has done absolutely nothing to make me believe he won't throw a cry baby fit when things don't go 100% his way... | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 11:18:08 AM | Spoken like a true reader of the opinions of someone else. Regardless of how we the fans see Mr. Moss, he is truly a concensus first rate "talent" at his position, especially after ten years in the league. With a Moss on your line at reciever, all teams must respect his "preconcieved" talent and send special attention his way, thereby opening up more room for the other "skilled" position players. (The notion that every position isn't "skilled" really bothers me) I am a Pats fan so my opinions are based in loyalty, but also in facts. The pats wouldn't turn T.O. away if they could get him for the price they got Moss for. If it works, great, if not we spent a couple of low draft choices for an experiment on a great talent.(read: anti- Danny Ainge move, that's another story.) | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 11:31:19 AM | | moss was a talent a few years ago. i saw him "play" for the raiders and if he could still do it he would have. he'll get single coverage all year long and no coverage at all across the middle. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 4:04:33 PM | Dillon was a malcontent as well... he must have "haunted" the Pats huh????
Oh yeah, Bryan Cox wasn't all that classy of a player, come to think of it...
The Pats will be fine. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 4:06:39 PM | "moss was a talent a few years ago. i saw him "play" for the raiders and if he could still do it he would have. he'll get single coverage all year long and no coverage at all across the middle."
I would be fine if he is simply used as a decoy... that would be worth a 4th round pick. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 5:38:19 PM | | yeah your right about dillon. they all said the guy was a cancer and he didn't want to play. i'd take 53 guys like that who didn't want to play. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 5:40:46 PM | | When the season is over I am going to start a thread about how wrong everybody was about Moss........ | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/31/2007 8:21:51 PM | | Rodney Harrison goofed.....Positive for steriods and out for 4 game suspension. I'm not too happy about this because I think he is a great leader for the Patriots, but because of this I hoping it doesn't affect the morale on the team. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/31/2007 8:43:37 PM | Hgh ISN'T steroids... fwiw. He used it for injury recovery. However, the NFL does ban the use of it.
At least he didn't lie about it... like so many other pro players do.
It stinks, but, I heard he was still injured anyways... oh well. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 11:38:50 AM | supid?
He is one of the "sartest" players in the NFL.
He wanted to heal up faster... and it came back to bite him. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 11:43:59 AM |
"It is exciting and it's good to feel the love," Moss said then, "but, at the same time, we have a job to do and we need to concentrate and focus on what we have to do on the field."
..."Who doesn't want the ball?" Moss said on his first day of training camp. "I think that just makes us as a whole unit, all of the skill positions, work a little harder
That talent, still evident at age 30, gives the Patriots a dangerous deep threat and often brings double teams. He said he won't be bothered if he's a decoy opening up space for other receivers. In the past, he's complained about not getting the ball enough
Belichick did his homework before trading for Moss, who was fined $10,000 for the mooning - something Green Bay fans have done to opponents' team buses.
"I've talked to a lot of people that were close to him, both teammates and coaches," Belichick said. "They have a lot of respect for him. I have a lot of respect for him."
His first coach with Oakland also spoke highly of Moss when he was traded there.
"We're so happy to have him and we'll know how to use him," Norv Turner said before the Raiders started the season 0-3.
"I think he's a good guy," Raiders offensive lineman Barry Sims said. "I think he's misunderstood in a lot of ways. I think we're better without him. I think he's better without us, and just leave it at that
That change worked for Corey Dillon. He was considered a malcontent in Cincinnati, but was a trouble-free player who led the Patriots in rushing each of the last three seasons before retiring.
Will Moss follow in Dillon's footsteps - or his own?
"Will those what-ifs ever come to be true or not? You don't know," Bruschi said. "We just take it one day at a time, but ever since he's come into this facility, Randy Moss, he's done nothing but work hard and put the team first."
Will playing on a team picked by many as a solid Super Bowl contender keep him in line?
Will his new, no-nonsense coach and the veteran leaders who demand players to be accountable get in his face if he takes plays off, as he has in the past?
So far, coach Bill Belichick and his teammates have voiced no complaints. They say Moss works hard, studies his playbook and keeps them laughing. When he's gotten on the field, he's shown the speed, hands and leaping ability that made him one of the NFL's top receivers
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/2007/09/01/4463554-ap.html
Obviously the jury's still out with the season starting next week. I have utmost respect for Belichik's ability of handling and assessing personnel. Who knows. Maybe you can change the spots on a leopard. I think if the Pats do well, Moss will do well. if the Pats sputter, Moss will too.
Moss is not a positive attitude guy when the chips are down. When all's going well he's got plenty of talent. But when he's losing, he's a cancer. I'll give Belichik the benefit of the doubt on this one and say this could wind up being the best offseason move made by any club. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 11:44:20 AM | tell me.. how do you know that he is one of the smartest players in the nfl? or is that just your opinion? and i know.....don't tell me. he wanted to come back "for the team" and tried to hurry the process, even though he is "one of the smartest players in the nfl" he did it any way. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 11:49:55 AM | | He was a ref during the NFL Europa for one thing... you have to be fairly with it to be one. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 3:33:40 PM | | It takes a man to admit that he is wrong, which Harrison did. If I can remember correctly, Merriman was in denial and filed a grievance against the NFL. Which we all know he could not win and was suspended for 4 games. | |
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