| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 4:32:41 PM | "Moss is not a positive attitude guy when the chips are down. When all's going well he's got plenty of talent. But when he's losing, he's a cancer."
The truest statement made on this thread about Moss. That's where the verdict on Moss will be given. When...and it will happen to the Patriots and every other team in the NFL...when the Patriots face some adversity, how will that play out? That's one of the main reasons the Pats team has held solid for 6 years now. Their ability to handle adversity. Hell, they already have a start with the Rodney Harrison incident. The question is, when adversity strikes on the field, will the Patriots be able to pull Moss up...or will he drag them down?
In the parity era of the NFL, the days of Any Given Sunday truer than ever. The difference between the Lombardi Trophy and the first pick in the draft is not talent-wise. It's attitude. Confidence. Preparation. Case in point: The last team the Colts lost to last year was the Houston Texans. I may be in the minority in believing this and maybe I am dead wrong (and maybe that's why I don't have a job as an NFL personelle director), but I believe the raw talent some players bring is no longer worth the headaches their bad attitudes produce. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 8:03:58 PM | I'm much more upset that Seymour is out for 6 friggin weeks due to another injury... what is he, a china doll?
Maybe he needs some hgh... just kidding ;-)
I guess Jarvis Green will suffice. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/2/2007 9:13:31 AM | I believe the Patriots are a solid contender for the Lombardi, but so are several other teams, and a sleeper or two will step forward. The most important thing for the Patriots, IMO, will be the week to week approach to the game. The Pats are among the best at concentrating upon the task at hand, without worrying about next week, or what the Colts are doing to the team they are playing that day. They have decent depth this year, and better offensive production should really help a strong, solid defense that has some age issues at some spots.
Moss will be ready, and he will be productive. Watch Welker, though, if you want to see some real excitement over the middle!
It will be fun! | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/2/2007 10:02:31 PM | | More adversity a week before the season starts..Richard Seymourhas been placed in the physically unable to perform list..may miss first 4-6 weeks of the season. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 12:44:23 AM | "More adversity a week before the season starts..Richard Seymourhas been placed in the physically unable to perform list..may miss first 4-6 weeks of the season. "
I just said that in my last post... | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 12:54:24 AM | well.....
all i have heard the past 6 years is how the pats dont have any superstars and can win with the whole "team concept" .
dont worry you got that grea team leader in rodney harrison...err..wait a minute...
oh thats right..you have randy moss!!!...err..wait...
as you can tell pats fans....I feel REALLY REALLY sorry for you.... 
GO BRONCOS | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 3:47:47 AM | i humbly, but firmly agree fear not though, teddy "the legend" bruschi will pick up the slack | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 6:30:33 AM | It didn't come as a great shock to me that Seymour went to the PUP list. He hasn't practiced in some time. It also isn't a shock that Moss did NOT go on PUP, indicating he may be ready to go, or he is pretty close.
The early part of the Pat's schedule is challenging. It will be interesting to watch how they adjust and handle the pressure. If they come through while some guys heal up, it could be quite a season. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 11:00:18 AM | Patriots have been in this situation many times before with players unable to play. We still managed to win games, so I'm not worry not even a little bit.
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 1:25:45 PM | "what week will moss be ready to play? not this week."
Moss practiced in full pads today.....so did Asante Samuel. (humble bow....) | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 3:45:56 PM | | Even Jason Taylor is questioning the Fish front office for trading for Trent Green... "he is one big hit away from retirement." | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 4:42:07 PM | FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) -- The New England Patriots released Reche Caldwell, their leading receiver from last season, on Monday, when offseason addition Randy Moss and cornerback Asante Samuel returned to practice.
Well, looks like they are going Moss or bust for sure now. I know Wes Welker is there too and all but Caldwell was their leading receiver last year....this is a mistake just dying to happen... | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 5:02:17 PM | It's hardly just "Moss or bust". Yes, Caldwell was pretty solid, but would be a 2 or 3 on any other team, at best. Also, Welker is not the only other quality receiver the Pats added that made Caldwell expendable. Donte Stallworth is a former Pro Bowler with great speed, Kelly Washington has superior speed and hands to Caldwell and is a bigger receiver, as well. Gaffney had a great last post-season last year and pre-season this year , and we have Troy Brown and Chad Jackson coming off PUP somewhere in the first 6 weeks (unless one of them goes to the IR). Just a numbers decision.
Let's not forget the two huge drops by Caldwell in the playoffs, one of which would have been a first down on the Pat's last possession, and he even had a chance to score had he caught that ball. I realize that drops happen to everyone, but when there is a high level of talent available at a position, little things make or break you. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 11:12:53 PM |
GO BROKEBACKS"
Tell Daniel Graham hello...
and maybe I will tell simeon rice hello too...he is a bronco officially....
hmmm...was I hearing the pats had the best offseason moves?
dre bly...simeon rice...travis henry...graham....
GO BRONCOS.... | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/4/2007 7:04:32 AM | Simeon Rice isn't that good anymore... you can have him.
Never did think that Dre Bly was all that good.
Graham was born and raised around Boulder, and he wasn't in the Pats plans... but I do really like him.
Travis Henry needs to feed his 9 kids (from 9 different momma's)... no wonder he fumbles so much.
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And as fas as Eyes Wide Shut (Reche Caldwell) goes, who cares?
He wasn't a number 1 wide reciever, but he was forced into the role. He wasn't that good at all... maybe a number 3 at best.
It was a number's game that let him go.
I'm glad that he was let go.
He did play will all of his heart, but, he simply wasn't that good. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/4/2007 7:34:03 AM |
Simeon Rice isn't that good anymore... you can have him.
I guess the same could be said for randy moss...there is a reason nobody wanted him....
Never did think that Dre Bly was all that good.
just an opinion...but if you ask around the league and the people who play against him...he is a pretty good cornerback..put him next to the best cornerback in the nfl...I think he only gets better....
I just find it funny pats fans try to tell everyone how great randy moss is gonna be, but then follow it up with "well he was just cost us a 4th rounder anwyay"...so the excuse is already built in.... | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/4/2007 8:13:29 AM | | it's almost humorous the way no team can pick up guys except the pats. if the pats would have picked up rice those people would be planning a super bowl parade, but since they didn't he's a bum. as for the built in excuses, that's par for the course. i said it once and i'll say it again those people can smell the faint odor of disappointment comming from foxboro. | |
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| New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/4/2007 9:39:16 AM | The Pats weren't interested in Rice because they are set at the position, not because he isn't any good. His skills have declined somewhat over the last few years, though.
Though you may end up being right, I don't think you can compare the situations with Rice and Moss. Rice has knee problems and was pushed out by youth (according to Bucs' management). Moss' problems are more related to his personality. I think you would find that a lot of players who played for the Raiders the last few years would have better seasons just BECAUSE they DON'T play for the Raiders any more.
The bottom line is that no one will know who had the better off season until we see how things play out during the season. Comparing players, especially across positions, is pointless. Some will do better or worse dependent upon who they play next to or around, and whether they are a good fit fo the system they play within.
To coin a phrase (lol)...That's why they play the games..... | |
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st. bill must have "layed hands" upon moss.