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| | Sex with minorsPage 10 of 35 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35) | | no you go f uck yourself im not taking that from you, you insulted me granted one of the insults you are right about and i admit it, you are still being a f ucking a sshole about it and i never 1 time said i wanted to or would date a 17 year old the only point i was trying to make is the guy whom this thread is about, people are lumping him in the same category as a 50 year old man who molests 6 year olds and im just saying some folks grow up faster than others 25 is not always such an old man and there isnt always that much of a difference from 17 to 25 .....either way you're the one who started geting agressive not me. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2007 8:14:54 PM | Waaaaaaah waaaaah waaaaah, Vinny Low, pass me the kleenex, im about to cry waaaaa
real mature there kid, and you wonder why you have no dates except with the palm brothers good luck to you kid
I never said you wanted to date a 17 year old , and who compared 50 year men molesting 6 years what does that have to do with the price boiled chicken feet in Mississippi?
On the off chance that you're myopic i replied there is major differences between a 17 year old and a 25 year old , most 17 years are about to finish High school, while the 25 year old should be done College/University
And the fact that you called me a fukin a$$hole, shows the maturity level, and whats wrong with being a a$$hole, you say that if its a bad thing. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2007 8:15:44 PM | I'm a FIRM believer in castrating sexual predators. Forget their 'rights' - they don't have any as far as I'm concerned and personally I don't care whether they are rich, poor, priest, secular, foreign or local - you do something like that to MY child and may God help your soul because your arse is mine and there will be no where you can run that I won't find you!
This crap about the girl hitting on him is a load of rubbish! So what? He's unable to say, "No!"??? Then what kind of man is he? This is just a p*ss poor excuse to exercise a fantasy of his.
I've had underage girls hit on me back when I was 18! I still said no. It's not that difficult and it flows right off the tongue oh so easily.... "NO!" | |
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Posted: 9/16/2007 8:40:11 PM | | Ok plain and simple and even the brain dead can understand this. We were all young once and we should know how easily an older person can manipulate a teenager, even the ones who are raised with great morals and support. This is a question of morals not legality. The OP knows the law, and I would think also knows it's the lowest form of human that preys on lack of experience and sheer ignorance to the corrupt nature of the world we live in. Morals are what is lacking. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2007 9:36:57 PM | | but what if she's more experienced than him? | |
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Posted: 9/16/2007 10:28:45 PM | | How long does this thread have to continue before the Frat lets you guys join ? | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 1:19:57 AM | | Vinny, I understand what you mean that a 25 yo can be the same mentality as a 17 yo just as a 17 yo can have the mentality of a 12 yo (which also means a 25 yo can be the same as a 17 yo and both act like a 12 yo). But at 25 a person should be responsible for their actions and grow up. Those that do not are either mentally retarted and so we have to have the police to police them and the others that do not are selfish and refuse to grow up and be responsible for their actions. We had to make laws to stop the selfish because they are dumping their responsibilties on our laps and making us responsible for their behavior. There is NO debating it. It's not done and that's that. Stop being selfish, accept it, be responsible and grow up. It aint just me saying it, it's EVERYONE. Because EVERYONE do not want irresponsible selfish child acting adults taking advantage of our children and destroying their lives before they can reach the age of 25. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 2:24:31 AM |
Because EVERYONE do not want irresponsible selfish child acting adults taking advantage of our children and destroying their lives before they can reach the age of 25.
Whoa. Now we're associating a sexual relationship with destruction of someone's life? Nice generalization, I know 'EVERYONE' on this forum loves it when people do that. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 3:04:04 AM | | I think at 17 a person should be responsible for their actions too, ok if she was freakin 12 then ok yes we have a big god damn problem and i'd part of the pyschological lynch mob myself but if she is 17 i don't think 25 is much better, I mean what if she was 27 and he was 35? he still has that many more years on her so why is it any different? I realize im branding myself an advocate of "pedophiles" but i assure you i am not and i never once said i condone such things all im saying is maybe this guy doesn't deserve to be beaten to death like every one seems to think he should and maybe he isn't a sexual predator and maybe she is not a sweet innocent angel either, maybe he is simple minded and retardedly innocent, maybe he's like forrest gump or something and maybe he genuinely likes her and isn't taking advantage of her,maybe she's taking advantage of him. I,m not saying the parents of these little innocent 17 year old children in pig tails don't have the right to not like the big bad wolf comming after their daughter,all im saying is maybe we don't have to kill him until we perhaps know more about the story? | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 3:21:06 AM | a speak onbehalf of only myself i was out on the drink one night i am 18 and ended up with a 32 single gall now in my eyes there was nothing the matter cause a fun time was had by all, age makes no differance i belive i will only live once so i have fun wen i want an watever the circumstances if its legal then noone can stop you... | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 3:41:58 AM | I laugh at the older 20 somethings that seek minors to date. You know the 20 something has nothing to offer an adult hence the fact they chase teens.  | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 4:29:28 AM | Amazing look into the minds of some here...
So, as I understand it...if a man in his mid 20s and up is socially inept, he should be practicing on underage girls since they are less "mature" and less able to recognize his shortcomings than women his own age. They're good "practice."
Actually, that's another good thing to read on here. It lets you know exactly what these men want from your teenage daughters. They need them for practice. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 10:01:59 AM | If you want a flower you DON'T pick when it's a bud.... Simple enough, huh?
But like I said earlier, those of you who will not be resposible for your actions because ya selfish and demand to get your own way (throw all kinds of tantrums) and/or because you are mentally inept, you all leave the responsibility to us adults. But since you may be acting like a child (that needs their bottom slapped), you are actually grown up and so we had to have laws and the police to sort you out. Sorry, all the tantrum throwing and all the poor excuses to have your own way doesn't make a difference. A child is still a child, and a bud is still a bud.
And just because you think a child is big enough to have sex don't make it right. Your selfish opinion to have your own way (and your refusal to grow up and be responsible) does make it right. And that's what you are saying when you use the excuse that a 17 yo can be old enough for you. Plus saying this is just throwing your responsibility on a 17 yo. Putting the blame on a 17 yo is not justifiable.
As for destroying a life... Pick any sexual disease, or pregnancy, or the mental burden for such a young age. Having to live with a sexual disease at such a young age because some older guy took advantage of them is a terrible way to destroy a life. Being pregnant as such a young age and having to be responsible for some older guy's child when you are still a child yourself is a terrible way to destroy two lives. And being undeveloped mentally and physically (like a flower bud) and taken advantage of sexually will destroy the developement of that young person's life and most likely destroy them mentally and physically making it difficult or impossible to bloom into a well rounded adult.
Again I'll repeat myself.. Some of you are selfish and/or mentally retarded and so we have laws and police to stop you from taking advantage of the young. I know that you think it's just an inconvenience stopping you from getting your own way but you should stop and think that there has to be more of a reason for laws and police instead of just being an inconvenience. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:00:27 AM | | legally, minors can not even form consent, let alone give it to you. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:06:00 AM | I abhor adults with children under the age of 20. Lines blur a bit when its 23 dating a 19 yr old but I think that society as a whole is way too accomodating.
At 16 I was raped by someone who was more than 4 years older than me. Its a simple choice that I have never dated anyone younger than 20 since I turned that age. It goes far enough that I wouldn't consider dating or seeing anyone who has slept with someone under the age of 20 as well. Its a deal breaker for me. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 11:09:30 AM | | I lost my virginity at the age of 21...to a 31 year old woman. I was determined to not end up like most of my friends...who: had sex young, impregnated the latest town whore, were pressured by parents to marry, and ended up as unhappy, divorced, deadbeat dads. So, I refrained from sex until an adult who could support myself, and any children I may sire. It's called 'being responsible', but few even try to do it. I have never 'done' a minor, and never will, and have never wanted to. Even in high school, I was hot for my teachers rather than fellow classmates. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 3:36:31 PM | | i ask again what if she is taking advantage of him? and once again im NOT condoning it but what if no "real" women will accept him because of his short commings but then all of a sudden a girl who is a bit younger does accept him? one thing about being unaccepted is you become very eager to be liked and when you are hated then suddenly you find that 1 person who likes you and you have things in common and the attraction and chemistry feels right it might not be all that easy to just forget them...im just trying to shed some light on the guys perspective that maybe he isnt the boogyman. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 3:57:17 PM |
Im asking this because of a post I read from another user where a few people, both men and women seems to think it is perfectly acceptable for adults (25 years olds) to target minors (17 year olds) so I want to know what is acceptable and what is not. I hold the option that a 25 year old having sex with a 17 year old is not acceptable but thats just me and I have being wrong before, I hope I am not this time so I posted this to find out if society has changed of wheather my view is valid. Here in canada, the legal age of consent is 14. regardless of how old that teen's partner is, as long as that person is above 14.
Here, 18 is just for marriage(excepting parental consent) and taking it up the bum. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 4:07:46 PM | I haven't read all 10 pages of posts, but here's my humble opinion.
At 15 I was living on my own and supporting myself. Attending school full time and working two part time jobs to make ends meet. At 16 i met a guy who I really clicked with. I was 16, he was 26. It seemed perfectly normal to me at the time. We didn't last long, and I only moved up from there. At 17, the boyfriend was 28.
I didn't think it was so much about age neccessarily as it was about maturity.
Although, now that I have a 15 year old daughter....Holy!!!..If any guy in his 20's even looks at her sideways, I'll serve his balls for breakfast. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 7:15:33 PM |
At 15 I was living on my own and supporting myself. Attending school full time and working two part time jobs to make ends meet. At 16 i met a guy who I really clicked with. I was 16, he was 26. It seemed perfectly normal to me at the time. We didn't last long, and I only moved up from there. At 17, the boyfriend was 28.
I didn't think it was so much about age neccessarily as it was about maturity.
Although, now that I have a 15 year old daughter....Holy!!!..If any guy in his 20's even looks at her sideways, I'll serve his balls for breakfast
So it was alright for you to do it, but not for your daughter? I realize there may be different circumstances and maturity levels in play, but the way you said that last bit made me think you were thinking more in terms of your emotions as a mother rather than being fair to your daughter (I'm not saying she wants to be with an older man, but IF she did, we all know what your reponse would be). | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 7:37:59 PM | | Legally there is no "guys' perpspective", and a minor can NOT take advantage of an adult. If you think getting some young stuff is worth 20 years in the pen, go for it. Just don't say you weren't warned. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 8:26:57 PM | for a legal reference, here's a handy guide:
http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
another piece of evidence of the double standard: the male age of consent is younger in every state that has different ages for males and females. Conventional knowledge states that males mature later than female, so why allow them to have sex earlier? | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 10:21:46 PM |
Conventional knowledge states that males mature later than female, so why allow them to have sex earlier?
Because we need to "protect the young girls from being taken advantage of and having their lives destroyed by older predators". Remember, "the younger person can't take advantage of someone older than them". At least I think that's right, judging from what I've read here. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2007 4:38:57 AM | New Stanford University study finds that "older men who shack up with much younger women keep the grim reaper at bay for the human population and extend our species' lifespan."
GROOVVY, BABY!! YEAH!!
Because we need to "protect the young girls from being taken advantage of and having their lives destroyed by older predators". Remember, "the younger person can't take advantage of someone older than them". At least I think that's right, judging from what I've read here.
you're being sarcastic by saying that the young can't take advantage of the old and that young girls are any more vulnerable to older men than young boys are to older women, right?
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Posted: 9/18/2007 4:45:53 AM |
So it was alright for you to do it, but not for your daughter? I realize there may be different circumstances and maturity levels in play, but the way you said that last bit made me think you were thinking more in terms of your emotions as a mother rather than being fair to your daughter (I'm not saying she wants to be with an older man, but IF she did, we all know what your reponse would be).
You're absolutly right. It was okay for me, but it is not okay for her and I am absolutly basing that on emotion. The old adage "do as I say, not as I do" comes heavily into play.
Beyond that, as I said, maturity plays a big role on it. I was living on my own at 15, supporting myself and doing it all. She lives with me, relies on me for everything and has never even been out on a date. | |
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