| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 7:10:52 AM | Having a relationship with a minor, disgusts me. I am very black and white on this subject. There is no gray area for me. I don't care if it was my son or daughter.A minor may be in a hurry to grow up. They may think they are ready. But adults should leave them alone. I also read and responded to the other post. Bottom line, I won't understand nor will I even try, What mature adult has in common with a teenager except for the thrill of forbidden fruit. If it serious then it will last till they are of an age. Adults have had their time in the sun to play and be a kid let the kids be a kid. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 7:26:28 AM |
I am very black and white on this subject. There is no gray area for me.
So if this is the case, where do you draw the line, and why is the line at that specific point? Extreme circumstances like a 25 year old with a 16 year old is understandable, but what about my previous example? A 19 year old with a 17 year old is an adult with a minor, but is 2 years really that abhorrent?
To me, anyone who is black and white on an issue such as this is making too many assumptions and is judging things using arbitrary figures. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 7:31:07 AM | I've said it before...
When I was 15, I seduced a couple of my boyfriend's fathers, it was entirely my doing, I was pretty well endowed at an early age and I've always known how to seduce a man.
And trust me, the sex was way better too. If the girl makes a concious decision that she wants to be with him, I see no fault in it. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 7:43:53 AM |
So if this is the case, where do you draw the line, and why is the line at that specific point? Extreme circumstances like a 25 year old with a 16 year old is understandable, but what about my previous example? A 19 year old with a 17 year old is an adult with a minor, but is 2 years really that abhorrent?
Well most jurisdictions have closeness in age clauses in their statutory rape/consent laws. Some of them are pretty complicated and some are not. Usually it is something to the effect of "if a minor is under 17 but over 14 then a 4-year or less age difference isn't statutory rape. So no, a 17 -year-old and a 19-year-old isn't abhorent (though technically the 19-year-old is an adult)..and most likely neither would a 20-year-old and 17-year-old. But by 21 you should be dating and having sex with adults 18 or older. I am very open minded sexually, but this is the one area maybe I am hardass about. I am 30 and just can't imagine being that attracted to a female under 18 that I would feel the need to start having sex with her, especially when there are many many many more fishies in the sea who are 18+. Sure, there are "attractive" 16 and 17-year old girls out there..let them finish being kids before they start doing adult things with adults! It's not that hard! | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 7:48:14 AM | | This thread hasn't been deleted; why? | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 7:51:42 AM |
I'm perfectly fine with it. As a minor I had two perfectly viable relationships with men 6 or 7 years older than me, because we clicked. I know that when I was 16 and 17 I didn't give a damn about the stuff that most high school boys did. It was impossible for me to carry on a conversation with somebody who could whine about their parents making them do their own laundry - as far as I was/am concerned, if the statement "I have to wait until I get my allowance for the week" has the remotest possibility of turning up in conversation, forget it.
Plz! I notice you're only 18 now! Trust me from another "girl" who believed how mature she was in high school...you may have a different perspective when you're out of college! So many girls think they're way beyond their peers...well, more than likely you're not so I'm glad there are laws in place to protect girls from men and from themselves. Just because you don't click with high school boys doesn't mean you're ready for a (more than likely) sexual relationship with a 25 year old - but it certainly feels glamorous, doesn't it? | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 7:57:26 AM | Well where I live the age of consent is 16. It still wouldn't matter to me. I raised 2 boys and 2 girls. I have never wavered. If they want my child then they will wait till my child is 18. Then my rules don't apply. In my house my rules apply.There is no disussion . I am sorry that seems harsh to you and I am a very rigid person. I guess I speak from experience. In having that experience, I protected my children againest adults, speeding cars, you name it. It was my job They are all over 18 now they can make their own choices. Some of them have children, they are going to make decisions on their children and I will stay out of it Bottom line if my child is under 18 hands off till they are. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 8:20:00 AM | | Baffles me why it hasn't been deleted too. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 8:32:32 AM |
I have never wavered. If they want my child then they will wait till my child is 18.
at least as far as you "KNEW".. funny how many parents THINK that; then find out their 13-14 or 15 year old little 'angel' is pregnant..
of course some know how to use birth control better than others, so are never 'found out'.. | |
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MIKES3
| Joined: 8/21/2007 Msg: 35 | |
| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 8:36:07 AM | My rule is I wont date anyone that is younger than my sister. She will be 21 in January. If a 25 year old needs to date a minor there something wrong. It's not normal in my opinion.
If I was the 18 year old I would be asking questions to myself. Why would a 25 year old want to date me. I can think of a reason. Can you? | |
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Bunnni
| Joined: 8/10/2007 Msg: 36 | |
| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 9:21:01 AM | SassySky, if the thrill is in the forbidden fruit, then why not take away the "Forbidden" label?
Seems like a lot of people are saying, "I just don't think an adult should have sex with a minor because it's WRONG... And because it disgusts me."
Hey, same reasoning why people think homosexuality is wrong, right?
Honestly, what other reasoning is there? Adults are merely taking advantage of the younger ones? I'm sorry, but last time I checked, many 13-year-boys are taking advantage of girls the same age all of the time as well. If it's a matter of emotional protection, it's not someone's age that's going to make them hurt another. | |
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MIKES3
| Joined: 8/21/2007 Msg: 37 | |
| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 9:49:22 AM | I'm going to have to disagree here a little. Look at it this way. A girl that is 17-18 years old has not seen as much as a 24 or 25 year old. What I mean by that is they haven't played the field long enough. This is going to be tough to explain but I'll do my best.
Look at it this way. If a 25 year old wants a minor there's something wrong with the picture. Either he is very insecure or he's desperate. Girls that are 17-18 are less mature than a 25 year old female. A 25 year old female most likely has been cheated on, emotions played with etc etc. Most 17-18 year old haven't been in that situation or learned from it. That's why its easier to take advantage of someone that is a lot younger.
I am a good guy, but I know how a man can think. If I was desperate or just wanted a piece of ass I would shoot for the girls that are 18 years old. | |
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Bunnni
| Joined: 8/10/2007 Msg: 38 | |
| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 9:53:23 AM | Yet like I said, minors take advantage of minors all of the time. It's the same deal. You must also think it's wrong for a twenty and thirty-year-old to have sex, no? How about a thirty and forty-year-old?
You're trying to tell me minors haven't been cheated on, so adults shouldn't want them. It actually makes sense to me that males especially would be attracted to younger girls, considering your best eggs are from age 14 to 27. Those are some young girls. | |
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MIKES3
| Joined: 8/21/2007 Msg: 39 | |
| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 9:59:44 AM | I dont think a 13 year old male has enough common sense to figure out he's trying to play a woman. I dont think its NORMAL for a 21 year old to date a 35 year old, but to each of there own.
What do you think? | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 10:03:40 AM | | Have you all forgotten how much drama there is in high-school with so-and-so cheating on so-and-so etc etc? Don't try to tell me young people haven't "experienced" thing like that. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 10:09:31 AM | As far as i can tell (and this is just from a quick googling granted!!) the legal age to drive is 16 in the US. At 16 you are able to take your own life in your hands and those of many many others at the wheel of what is basically a lean mean killing machine, yet someone is not mature enough to decide on their own sexual destiny until they are 18?! That just doesn't make sense to me!!
Obviously there is a difference in a 25 y/o purposely hunting out a 17 y/o to 'abuse' but if it is something that 'happens' i see no harm. Besides there is a big difference between 'dating' a 17 y/o and 'having sex' with one! | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 11:55:15 AM | | 20 and 30, and 30 and 40 are very different from 15 and 25..20-30 amd 30-40..all consenting adults..the 15 year old is a kid, literally, not figuratively! | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 2:40:58 PM | i was 20 and dated a guy who was 36. so he has a crush on a 17 year old... 25 isnt that much older... as long as he waited until she was 18 to make any moves whats the problem? and even so, in some cases, 17 isnt a minor any more...
if it was a 17 year old boy and a 25 year old woman there wouldnt be as much problems with it...
how old IS 17?! i mean, come one, if she was 15 or 14... ok.. thats a little perverted, but, 17, shes almost a legal adult... if she is a responsible 17 year old who is mature for her age, i dont see any thing wrong with them dating casually... | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 2:50:11 PM | There is alot of sick people in the world. If you need to prey on minors you are sick. All I can say is come around my underage kids and you will wish I had called the cops. enough said... | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 2:53:32 PM |
Seems like a lot of people are saying, "I just don't think an adult should have sex with a minor because it's WRONG... And because it disgusts me."
Hey, same reasoning why people think homosexuality is wrong, right?
Honestly, what other reasoning is there? Adults are merely taking advantage of the younger ones? I'm sorry, but last time I checked, many 13-year-boys are taking advantage of girls the same age all of the time as well. If it's a matter of emotional protection, it's not someone's age that's going to make them hurt another.
And there you see it....this is NAMBLA's argument. Lovely...just lovely. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 3:31:35 PM | | When I was 17 I dated a 29 year old. NOT good. I grew up fast and missed some wonderful teenage things, like prom, etc. We never went out with my friends, because that was too juvenile for him. We didn't go out with his friends, because I was too young to go to the bars, etc. We did do things like go bowling, have sex, go out to eat, have sex, etc. etc. But I always lied to my parents about who I was with because they would not let me date him. I thought I really loved the guy, but then I went away to college and said goodbye to him. Best thing I ever did. So my answer to this question would be NO, a 25 year old should not date a 17 year old. But try telling the 17 year old that! She'd probably be as stubborn as I was. | |
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AlexSB
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 3:37:06 PM | Silly thing about constants like "age" is they don't map one-to-one with the variables of sexual materurity.
Some guys/girls at 16 are more mature than others at 21, both emotionally and physically. I've always though that 16 was a good age for consentual sex. Not that I would hop on a 16 year old but you need to draw the line somewhere. | |
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AlexSB
| Joined: 6/29/2006 Msg: 48 | |
| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 3:38:11 PM | cute red mandy...
I want to be sedcued...seduce me...seduce me!!!  | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 8/27/2007 4:06:54 PM | Damn, I thought it said mirrors too. I dunno, my 17 yo daughter had a 19 yo bf...If he had been 25, well we would have had to have a walk with Jesus.
Makes me wonder though how old she said she was to him. When I was in my mid/late 20s I met girls in bars (21 only) that turned out to be 17 so I guess it all depends on what he knows and when...not that it would mean squat in court. | |
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