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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/27/2007 4:41:22 PM | If they're consenting it's ok. I think what everyone here is really concerned about is the fact that there are paedophiles who prey on 15-17 year old girls and relating that fact to their post in question.
Anyone seen Don Juan? Obviously there has to be a point where you're too young to have sex with a minor even if it is consensual which would be under the age of 13.
I've always had a thing for older woman and i had a relationship with one she was 7 years older than me i was 17. No problems. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:45:06 PM | I've said it before...
When I was 15, I seduced a couple of my boyfriend's fathers, it was entirely my doing, I was pretty well endowed at an early age and I've always known how to seduce a man.
And trust me, the sex was way better too. If the girl makes a concious decision that she wants to be with him, I see no fault in it.
Nice - like your style. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:46:18 PM | whats the big hoo haa about.....jeeezus if she was 7 then i would understand ,but 17 is perfectly ok for a 25 yr old.
Seems most folk on here lead sheltered lives , centuries ago it was acceptable for men to marry and breed 13 yr olds , now i mean thats pretty sick but like Bunni said, as soon as a girl bleeds she is old enough to breed.
i would say a girl no younger than 16 is acceptable for a man in his 20's. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:09:57 PM | This might fit into this discussion................
Cute Red Mandy says it like no one else so far can---------she made a choice to have sex at an age most still assume, hope or cling to the hope someone that age does NOT have urges they act upon. I find no fault with her actions other than to seduce otherwise involved men but they also had a choice---they simply made the wrong choice because of their involvements!
When I was 17 a woman of 32 seduced me----well she ravished me but that's not pertinent here. I was a bit shocked and surprised--pleasantly so---given how I came to know her initally but still went along anyway. In this particual situation there was much more than plain lust and I never felt any guilt or sense of shame for participating in something that was so great.
When I was about 26 I met a 15 year old young woman who was by far one of the most emotionally mature, sensible, level headed, assertive people I've ever met---age notwithstanding! (She turned 16 during the time I knew her) For what ever reasons she became attracted to and pursued me relentlessly without any reseveration or concern for who knew about her interest. After many hours of conversation with her I realized SHE was the aggressor yet I kept my distance since it crossed my mind "She's ONLY 15/16............". Thing is I was remembering girls I'd know when we were both that age and it took a long time for me to realize she was not them.
Eventually she "won out" and we did enjoy one anothers company for a bit until she moved away. I can't speculate on what "might have been" but I'd love to know how she is these days just to see what that bold, self-assured young woman has become today----I'd bet it's one equally amazing "older woman" now!
The point it the guy in question is NOT violating this 17 year old and even if this age span offends or worries some it doesn't seem that out of place to me. Yes the concern should his intentions and whether he's making a good choice for himself. If he seeks younger women due to inability to form "normal" healthy relationships with people closer to his own age that would be a problem. If he is attracted to her and she to him then I really, really do NOT see how this is such an abomination or crime against all that is holy, decent, respectful or "right".
My experiences say age alone should not be this big a deal. Thanks Cute Red Mandy for your openness and honesty! | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:12:29 PM | He should be in jail..........
ummm..for what, exactly?
she didn't say what 'jurisdiction' this occurred in, but in many (most) that I know of, 17 would be considered legally of age to consent to sex..(unless it was with an 'authority figure', e.g. doctor, teacher, etc.).
as if the jails are not full enough with people there for realtively mickey mouse BS stuff..(possessing a bit of pot, going to a rub n' tug spot - 2 consenting adults)
I wonder what might happen if cops & prosecutors would focus on REAL crimes..like, ya know, murder, rape, assault, grand theft, etc., etc.. instead of the "easy-to-convict" mickey mouse stuff where they don't have to get off their butts and, even, like, ya know.. collect evidence? (just some statutory thing where there are no real 'victims' ) | |
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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/27/2007 5:33:09 PM | | If a guy in his 20's trys that with my daughter I will hang him form his testels untill they fall off.I dont care what the laws are when she turns 18 she is a adult than she can sleep with anyone she wants except a minor. but untill than i am the daddy. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:36:33 PM | akaMrSmith, For as worldly a minor might feel themselves to be, the laws that seem out-dated and ludicrous to some for age of legal consent were passed to protect the concerned parents, such as yourself, for the children that are still subject to your decisions and the responsibilities that come w/ these. There are many children , who before the age of consent, are more responsible than their parents.
This fact aside, I am not the judge of whether or not a 25+ y/o male might have the best interests in a yet-of-legal-age girl in mind or heart, but as long as the law ...wherever you live, dictates that you are responsible for her, her fate is still 'your call', whether she and he like it or not. Consider the title of your thread, "Sex w/ minors". The law, despite puberty and emotional maturity, determines just what is a "minor" wherever ...and while I could possibly legally 'boink' "bunnni" in her home state, besides welcome the thought, I am thinking beyond any envisioned bliss to wonder just what else we'd have in common upon which to grow a successful LTR between us.
I believe that the law ...written wherever, was done so w/ this thought in mind, and especially as sex so often comes w/ our being so mindless until after the fact. As a parent of a very young boy, I surely hope that he grows up to be much the wiser w/o all the wrong experiences and lessons in sex than my own. In the meantime, I'm monitoring his ventures to the bathroom all the more diligently. | |
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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/27/2007 5:50:51 PM | | what gets me is why this thread was not deleted other people ask questions and they get deleted maybe pof needs to change their monator people to let this on | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:14:04 PM | what gets me is why this thread was not deleted other people ask questions and they get deleted maybe pof needs to change their monator people to let this on
the reason it hasn't been deleted is because this is not a pedophile topic, but a topic regarding age disparate relationships. Windbags notwithstanding, most people can reason rationally about hypothetical situations without resorting to trying to censor others who pose them. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:30:12 PM | | i think you will always feel this for your daughter....it doesn't matter the age.......you can't tell me when she's 18 and able to make her own decisions you wouldn't feel the same way......as far as if the genders were reversed ...no adult male or female should be trying to mess with a minor.......plain and simple...... | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:39:48 PM | | very good point....to young to no better !! | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:40:48 PM |  ok first to all the GUYS who said 17 and 25 is wrong when you were 17 would you have turned down a hot 25 year old wanting you just for sex??.......umm NO!! and dont lie to your selfs.
Now for the real point you are ALL missing age is JUST a number from the start of our race as time has gone on more and more "number" rules (as in you can fight for your country at 18 but cant drink till 21) have been put in place there was a time when girls fathers choose there husbands no if ands or buts, hell in some countries its still that way!! once more there was a time when if your DIDNT have kids by 18 ppl thought you were strange or barren. ok I know i know " now we are more civilized" "we are more moral" "we are more aware of the dmg it causes" but at the end of the day if I am at a bar and a woman hits on me and we have sex THEN i find out shes 16-17 SHE made the choice.
Also every thing I have just said is completly diffrent then 25 year old and up HUNTING 17 and younger. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 7:46:11 PM | | Personally I wouldn't approve of a scenario like this, but who I am to interfere with another person and/or family's life? Most countries the 17 year old is of a consenting age; if the 17 year old's family has no issue with it, why should anyone else?? | |
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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/27/2007 7:52:05 PM |
If they can bleed, they can breed. If there's grass on the feild, play ball.
People close their minds when it comes to this whole "Age of Consent" thing. I don't see a problem with it if the younger party wants it.
Wow I was surprised at this response......I am a mom of a 5 year old girl and let me tell you if in 7 years some guy starts after her I am gonna SNAP....There is no way....I would hope my daughter waits until she is at least 16 like I did..I was almost 17.....and that is as young as I would hope for her to be...cause anything younger is too young (and illegal)....But wow Bunni apparently you don't have kids, I don't know I didn't look at your profile....But I am just appalled by that. Sick sick sick   | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 7:56:45 PM | | You guys act like hes molesting F ucking 6 year olds or something....you mentioned hes a 25 year old virgin....as am i....and 1 thing i know being 1 myself is you cant get women youre own age because they all think youre inadeqaute....so some 1 whos 17 is closer to youre level....all this crap about let her be a kid ..you had your chance....well i dont know about him but i never got to be a teenager i never had my time to play in the sun as you say.....so in that case where do you go? im not good enough for real women...im too old to date girls so what am i to do? what is he to do? shoot himself?....why does he have to be a predator? im 25 i couldnt take advantage of a retarded 8 year old....so stop generalizing ppl because of their age....shes 18 is legal...17 and 18 are the same freakin age to me....shes not 7...and hes not 50....i say go for it and any 1 who wants to be mean about it can go F UC K themselves. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 8:30:51 AM |
If a guy in his 20's trys that with my daughter I will hang him form his testels untill they fall off
hope you would enjoy your time in prison, then?
in the scenario mentioned she (we were talking about a 17 -year old? not sue about your daughter's age? ) would be having CONSENSUAL sex with a guy who is older but you would MURDER him? (assuming that 'testels' are something like testicles..?) maybe she enjoyed it as much or MORE than he did?
sounds 'reasonable'..
why is it so much better for her to be getting boned by another 17- or 18 -year old anyway?
many parents will still feel 'protective' about their little 'angel' daughters when they are 18 and even 21, but don't know what she is REALLY doing that they don't know about.
(maybe since she was 13 or 14?)
you are quite naive if you think that 15 or 16 or 17 year old girls don't enjoy sex (most of them anyway). not that *I* would have anything to do with them at my current age, but 25 & 17? | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 6:34:55 PM |
Plz! I notice you're only 18 now! Trust me from another "girl" who believed how mature she was in high school...you may have a different perspective when you're out of college! So many girls think they're way beyond their peers...well, more than likely you're not so I'm glad there are laws in place to protect girls from men and from themselves. Just because you don't click with high school boys doesn't mean you're ready for a (more than likely) sexual relationship with a 25 year old - but it certainly feels glamorous, doesn't it?
Okay, I'm not going to waste an overly huge amount of time convincing you of my own personality - because god knows no 18 year old can ever know enough about herself to be right about anything in the whole universe - but here's what I have to say.
Yes, I'm 18. I've lived on my own for two years, while attending school full time. I can safely say that yes, I am more mature than most people my age, and if you don't think so, then fine... that's really not my concern. I know that I can and did have an honest, open, adult relationship with men older than myself, and it was largely because we were at the same stages in life. There was NOTHING interesting to me about the latest high school drama my friends were going through, or oh-my-god-my-parents-made-me-buy-my-own-clothes whining. I am more compatible with older people, always have been, because the stage I'm at in my life was usually ahead of my peers.
And how exactly is a sexual relationship with an older man too much for me to handle? Going for men my age has always resulted in less than nothing. Older men are politer, better in bed, and can come to a movie with me without having to tell their parents. Oh, and glamor? Please. That's just plain pathetic.
I am far more worried about adults who make assumptions about the maturity of people they don't know than I am about girls who make personal decisions about what they do with their own body, thanks. | |
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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/28/2007 6:49:26 PM | Legal age here is 16.
Any man that has sex with someone who is under 16 is sick.
All this nonsense *I seduced them* or *I was mature for my age*.. Under 16.. your still a child. | |
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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/28/2007 6:53:26 PM |
If they can bleed, they can breed. If there's grass on the feild, play ball.
People close their minds when it comes to this whole "Age of Consent" thing. I don't see a problem with it if the younger party wants it.
That is seriously the most disgusting thing I have read on here. Some children start their periods at the age of 9....come on now, show me how mature and grownup 20 year olds are by thinking logically through your argument. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 6:55:25 PM |
Any man that has sex with someone who is under 16 is sick.
Definitely. And anyone who's over about 21 & seeing a 16 year old is deeply suspect & a borderline nonce. 5 years is a long time at that age. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 6:57:58 PM |
SassySky, if the thrill is in the forbidden fruit, then why not take away the "Forbidden" label?
Seems like a lot of people are saying, "I just don't think an adult should have sex with a minor because it's WRONG... And because it disgusts me."
Hey, same reasoning why people think homosexuality is wrong, right?
Honestly, what other reasoning is there? Adults are merely taking advantage of the younger ones? I'm sorry, but last time I checked, many 13-year-boys are taking advantage of girls the same age all of the time as well. If it's a matter of emotional protection, it's not someone's age that's going to make them hurt another.
Seriously now. Are you saying there should be no age of consent? What about a 4 year old child? I doubt you would think that is OK, right? Age of consent laws are in place to protect children from being victimized by adults. There has to be a cut off age because otherwise, children will not be legally protected. You are one baffling, sad little girl. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 6:59:08 PM | JWA that makes me sick.
I hate all this bollocks.
*Oh shes 15 but shes sooo mature for her age*
It makes no god damn difference if shes mature or not.. shes 15!!!!
I admit that girls are getting worse.
In britain we have 13 year olds with 2 kids.
Girls as young as 7 are wearing thongs.
Im always seeing 15 year olds flirting with older guys.
Young girls are starting to look older.
They wear more make up, they wear skimpy clothes and they ACT more mature.
The fact of the matter is they are still children weather they look/act it or not.
And the girl who said she was seducing her boyfriends fathers at 15...
Well then clearly your a cheater and a slut.
Probably hanging down like a wizards sleeve by now. | |
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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/28/2007 6:59:56 PM |
If they can bleed, they can breed. If there's grass on the feild, play ball.
People close their minds when it comes to this whole "Age of Consent" thing. I don't see a problem with it if the younger party wants it.
People should really stop grouching about this, by the way... it's obviously an exaggeration and it's just a saying. It was just her way of saying that puberty - which is generally assumed to start at 14ish - is the line for sex. And biologically, she's right. That's what puberty was designed for. But I think we can all safely agree that nobody here is saying "have sex with nine year olds cause they grew a few hairs and use pads, s'all good." She was just making a point with a proverb-like statement. Gah. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 7:01:24 PM | I did, too. And it seems that the ages were stretched a little bit in THIS op. It bothered me some, I remember, because it just didn't seem like a good idea, but I didn't think there was anything "wrong" with it.
Interesting how people can skew a situation to get the responses they want or need. I read the original post by the young man in question. He is NOT targeting anyone. He is sincere and was asking for advice. The OP then takes his story, twists it just a bit to suit her needs and posts a new thread. Is this to try to get justification for her own opinion, which didn't quite match the majority of the opinions on the original thread? [quote/] | |
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