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Posted: 8/28/2007 7:01:50 PM |
kay, I'm not going to waste an overly huge amount of time convincing you of my own personality - because god knows no 18 year old can ever know enough about herself to be right about anything in the whole universe - but here's what I have to say.
Yes, I'm 18. I've lived on my own for two years, while attending school full time. I can safely say that yes, I am more mature than most people my age, and if you don't think so, then fine... that's really not my concern. I know that I can and did have an honest, open, adult relationship with men older than myself, and it was largely because we were at the same stages in life. There was NOTHING interesting to me about the latest high school drama my friends were going through, or oh-my-god-my-parents-made-me-buy-my-own-clothes whining. I am more compatible with older people, always have been, because the stage I'm at in my life was usually ahead of my peers.
And how exactly is a sexual relationship with an older man too much for me to handle? Going for men my age has always resulted in less than nothing. Older men are politer, better in bed, and can come to a movie with me without having to tell their parents. Oh, and glamor? Please. That's just plain pathetic.
I am far more worried about adults who make assumptions about the maturity of people they don't know than I am about girls who make personal decisions about what they do with their own body, thanks.
Sweetie, I hate to break it to you, but every 18 year old thinks they are more mature than the other 18 year olds out there. Seriously. Take a poll. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 7:04:03 PM | If they can bleed, they can breed. If there's grass on the feild, play ball.
People close their minds when it comes to this whole "Age of Consent" thing. I don't see a problem with it if the younger party wants it.
You ^^^ are truly disgusting.
This is a truly touchy subject for me, but I'd seriously wonder why a 25 year old would be looking to sex a 17 year old, with the exception of obvious reasons. Can't date someone your own age?
Be it a man or a woman looking to do this, my feelings would be the same. Either you have some serious emotional problems and can't seem to date in your own age bracket or you're just wishing to for the perviest of reasons, to have sex with someone under age and immature. Sure, kids today have a lot of sex savvy, but are they capable of making the right decisions when trouble arises?Like having a child, getting a job, a home, and settling down to take care of it? Nope.
And, what is the big hurry? IF this person has genuine (ICK!) feelings for this 17 year old, and genuinely respects them, then they will wait until said person is LEGAL. That means 18 years of age.
If not, you've no control over yourself or your urges. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 7:12:09 PM |
Sweetie, I hate to break it to you, but every 18 year old thinks they are more mature than the other 18 year olds out there. Seriously. Take a poll.
Yes, and every 36 year old thinks they automatically know better than the younger generation because "they lived it already."
And every 18 year old enjoys the drama that goes with school life.
And every 36 year old likes vanilla sex.
And every 18 year old is a bar star.
And every 36 year old loves Celine Dion.
And every 18 year old hates talking about politics.
And every 36 year old is condescending (and always right).
And every 18 year old unflinchingly despises their parents and everything they do.
Wow, such sweeping generalizations. Some of them are probably true. I never claim to know everything - I know my experience in life, and love, is limited, and I'll never be stupid enough to pretend otherwise - but I refuse to be told I know nothing, by complete strangers, no less. You may think I'm just some 18 year old who thinks she's more mature than her friends, and as I already said, it's not really my concern. But if you refuse to believe that I just may know a little bit about how I grew up, who I've always chosen for friends, the things I think about and want to have conversations about, and the stage I'm at in my material life - then for now, let me have my delusions while I let you have yours, because it's a proven waste of my time to try convincing anyone over thirty that an 18 year old might know something beyond their favorite drink. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 7:29:18 PM | hey taal, you've just illustrated why older men like younger women.
kudos.
illegitimus non carborundum
psuedo-latin because of the censor
reminds of the closing scene in that old classic the graduate where mrs robinson turns to her daughter and says, "it's too late" and Elaine (her daughter) replies, "it's not for me."
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Posted: 8/28/2007 9:39:53 PM | Oh my goodness. Sex with a minor period is inappropriate. Sure people think they are more mature, saldy enough the more mature ones dont parade it around like a flag. I was very mature for my age, didn't like the same music, magazines, clothes, gossip whatever. I stook out like a sore thumb. I still didnt feel it necassary to be with someone older then me. The way I see it is 'how old were they when you were born'....yeah a wee bit weird i'd say. And i'm not going to say that every single minor cant think for themselves and what not. There are some people that are just older then they're age...but seriously, why spread it around like its an award. Just enjoy the age that you are, even if you dont feel that age. Cause one day you'll wake up and go 'oh crap, I am older.'  | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 9:44:30 PM | that is bordering on paedophilia imo...whether a 17 yo is mature enough to have sex with a 25 yo is irrelevent, it's illegal and i would seriously question the motives of the 25 yo pursuing someone who is quite cleary a 'taboo' candidate in the eyes of the law...
she may be 'wiser' than another 'girl' the same age and he may sincerely be attracted to that...but the fact remains it is 'illegal' and his wisdom appears to not extend beyond his penis...
seriously these laws exist for a reason and are there to protect 'girls' and 'boys' from possible predators who conciously cross boundries and then glamourize it with words like 'maturity' to justify their 'questionable' behaviour... | |
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AlexSB
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Joined: 6/29/2006
Msg: 82 | |
| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/28/2007 9:50:14 PM | Elvis Preseley was a pervert. He met Priscilla when she was "14". Why do no one think he's a pervert? Cause he waited until she was 18 before they had sex??? Please, like that really happened.
The idea of sleeping with a girl only a few years older than my oldeest nephew is unsettling to me, but if you weren't in this situation I can see how things might be different.
Admittedly there are 17 year old girls who are very sexually attractive.
@PRINCESSFIFI: Isn't the legal age in Canada 16 or 14??? | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 9:57:32 PM | | im from australia alex and here the legal age is 18... | |
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Joined: 8/10/2007
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Posted: 8/28/2007 10:36:50 PM | Seems like quite a majority of you are speaking like good little sheep. "It's disgusting because it's illegal!"
I'm sorry, but since when does America have a perfect system? Do you also think it's disgusting to not be forced to pay for medical care?
Take a deep look inside yourself. Why are you really so offended with the thought of a minor willfully having sex with an adult? Some of you are claiming it's because you have children-- you're giving threats of castration and worse; DEATH [A little more disturbing to me than a minor willfully engaging in intercourse with an adult]-- yet you say SEX WITH MINORS is repulsive?
By saying, "If they can bleed, they can breed," I mean that biologically they're meant to be having babies, whether they start mensus at age nine, or sixteen. You cannot argue with mother nature-- regardless of the laws.
Take a look inside of why you find it so repulsive. Is it because it's all you've heard your whole life? Is it because that's how society is making it seem to you? | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 10:44:54 PM | It's because we like to look out for the welfare of our children.
As someone who was molested, I can outright tell you I was not even close being ready for sex whether I was able to bleed or not. Just because someone can f*ck doesn't always make it right or the right thing to do.
And by the way, I started when I was nine. I can tell you, also, as a mom of two daughters, you touch mine at nine, you will be more than walking funny.
Just because a man can stick his johnson in a girl because her body seems to be maturing doesn't make it right. It's called common decency, respect to let someone grow to their potential, and controlling your baser urges.
Evidently, you didn't get that concept.
Edited...by the way, it truly does seem like you advocate pedophilia with posts like that, Bunnni. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 11:30:44 PM | It wasn't a hundred years ago that getting married at 14 was acceptable.
A couple of true stories. My youngest brother is 14, he is extreemly immature for his age and frankly as dumb as a sack of hammers... That being said, he claims to have has sex 8 times starting when he was 13. I have twin sisters that had their first times at 16 with boys in their low to mid 20's. I myself was 21 when I had sex the first time with a girl about my age, but I had been doing just about everything else with girls since I was 14.
I had a reltionship with a girl that was 15 and I was 22, today we are still great friends and in the end no matter what we are always around when the other needs help, she is also a member on PoF and can back this up. We have fairly seperate lives now but neither of us was ruined and it was all consenutal and never intentional or looked for on either of our parts.
I Agree, there are predators, there are abusers. But I also have to agree with Bunni and Taal.
17 - 25... go back to your 1800's when you had men close to 30 marrying girls 14, or the 1900's + when it was 20's with 14's and even in WW2 the age differences were pretty different. Go one step further when you had royal familes commiting incest to keep the blood lines pure...
If you really want to get on a high horse about something google bountiful British columbia and read about the mormon sect and their poligamy where the young men are forced out so the leader can sleep with all the young women himself with little to no competition. Lets get some out rage over that because it is more and more legal in Canada because the government wont do anything about it.
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Posted: 8/28/2007 11:33:21 PM |
...perfectly acceptable for adults (25 years olds) to target minors (17 year olds)...
Why do you assume that they are targeting specifically for a girl who is 16-17 years old?
I'll get back to this in a moment,
first of all, depending on where you live, there is a thing known as age on consent, this is the age at which point a person is considered legally responsible for a large majority of their actions.
it is also a statement to parents that they should back off and let their kids make their own mistakes in life and pay for them, they can offer advices and criticism, but it's time to back the hell away.
Many places had this age set at 16; at 16 a person is old enough to drive, old enough to get arrested, and old enough to choose who they want to spend their days with. it may not be the right choice, but it's theirs.
Back to the topic at hand, if a guy sees a beautiful woman and approaches her, the conversation usually won't revolve around age, it will follow standard flirting operating procedures and age might be talked about somewhere between the first conversation and the time they move in together.
Why, because people grow up differently.
There are times when I have seen an absolutely stunning woman waiting for someone on the corner of the street, only to find out a moment later that who she was waiting for was the rest of her classmates who all look like high schoolers.
The same has happened to women who find a really handsome man only to find out he's not even 18 yet, it happens, people mature differently.
one of my coworkers is 22, he's dating a 30 year old woman, one of her nieces is 16, she is dating a man who is 22.
Did my coworker's girlfriend seek out a guy younger than she was? no, she thought he was cute and funny and the asked each other out.
Did the guy who is dating her niece stalk around her high school asking out every 16-17 year old till one said yes? No, they met in a coffee shop and happened to be reading the same book. They talked, had a lot of similar interests and started dating, he found out 3 months later that she was 16 and will be turning 17 in a few months.
Be careful when you ask loaded questions. your preconceptions of things make it hard for you to see the other possibilities of the world, and so you judge, often poorly the actions that you cannot comprehend due to the preconceptions. this is not aimed at you specifically, it's just a general rule when dealing with life. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2007 11:52:41 PM | Americans can be so hipocritical. It is an evil crime to have sex with a girl who is 17 and 364 days old but it is OK to f*ck a girl who is 17 and 365 days old.  | |
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Bunnni
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Joined: 8/10/2007
Msg: 89 | |
| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/29/2007 12:09:12 AM | So, VioletSky, you wanted to have sex with a man when you were nine? You told him you wanted it? You told him it was okay? Had you started YOUR mensus at nine? I'm sorry, but perhaps you should actually read what I'm saying before trying to argue with it.
Like I said, to minors who consent. There's a difference between having sex and being raped.
Plus, do you think you'd have as big of an issue with it if society didn't make sexual acts seem so dirty? It's a NATURAL thing! WHY make it seem like it's something to be kept private, even? Our society is still drawing alot of it's laws from religion-- something that SHOULD NOT interfere with the morals of the entire country. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 2:48:07 AM | | I say if its not illegal then its alright now if your the dad of a daughter and you still dont think its right and the guys too old go kick his ass lol If its not illegal then thats about all you can do but if it is illegal charge him and kick his ass lol | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 3:08:52 AM | | ummmm can you say SICKO!!! I don't know whats wrong with you people. morals have no part in this? how the hell do you figure. If it were my daughter I would hunt the perv down. some of the comments here I found completely sick and if thats honestly the way people feel about grown men going after mere children then I can see where society is seriously jacked up, mental maturity my azz, if you can't get an adult woman then get an inflatable you freaks, but leave the kids alone | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 3:58:09 AM | ok i'm 18 so a few months ago i was 17 (funnily enough) and people referring to 17 year olds as 'children' or 'the child' throughout this post is kind of annoying. it makes the 25 year old in question sound like a bloody child molester which is a horrible thing to accuse anyone of! i have guy friends who are 25 and it's not because (as a lot of people seem to be saying) they are horrendously 'immature' and have been shunned by women their own age. I mean what's that all about? Now the guys sound like social rejects 'preying' on kids.
anyway i think a relationship is all down to the people involved rather than the numbers surrounding them. that's not to say it would be ok for a 13 year old to be running about with a 30 year old but COME ON PEOPLE 17 isn't exactly a babe in arms. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 4:02:39 AM | Sweetie, I hate to break it to you, but every 18 year old thinks they are more mature than the other 18 year olds out there. Seriously. Take a poll.
Exactly even 16 year old girls think they're more mature than what they really are i see this everyday in the mall(although i dont go to the mall/malls - when i do) on the bus everywhere girls THINK they are more mature than what they really are.
Certain situations in life don't make you more mature. Maturity is shown through strength of character, will and intelligence not because you go out with older men or you live alone.
S**t i live alone and have been for 6 years does that make me mature. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 4:27:55 AM | And the girl who said she was seducing her boyfriends fathers at 15...
Well then clearly your a cheater and a slut.
Probably hanging down like a wizards sleeve by now.
Pigeon: Clearly you're jealous of her success with older men hah  | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 4:44:45 AM | Lmao...was that serious or a joke.
Because if it was a joke -Very funny.
If not- Very stupid.
Jealous of what?
The fact she was sleeping with guys old enough to be her dad when she was 15..?
I find that embaressing..nothing else. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 7:58:53 AM |
So, VioletSky, you wanted to have sex with a man when you were nine? You told him you wanted it? You told him it was okay? Had you started YOUR mensus at nine? I'm sorry, but perhaps you should actually read what I'm saying before trying to argue with it.
Like I said, to minors who consent. There's a difference between having sex and being raped.
Plus, do you think you'd have as big of an issue with it if society didn't make sexual acts seem so dirty? It's a NATURAL thing! WHY make it seem like it's something to be kept private, even? Our society is still drawing alot of it's laws from religion-- something that SHOULD NOT interfere with the morals of the entire country.
Umm are you on crack? Where on earth did you see me say I wanted to have sex when I was nine? Perhaps you need to go back to school and learn reading and comprehension.
Pedophilia ephebophilia may be ok in your book, but not in mine. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 8:24:22 AM | | Oh dear, the politically correct brigade is out in style here.....17 and 25 wow...big f******g deal, get a life people. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 8:28:51 AM | lets just agree as long as its not illegal then do it up  | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 8:44:06 AM | sunzofman... you are truly an idiot.
Really, make it a personal thing. Who cares, some people are more sexually liberated than others. I'd rather be a slut than a lonely prude any day ***hole. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 9:15:09 AM | Bunnni your comments are offensive, immature and naive, perhaps you should practice your amateur psychology somewhere else.
“I'm sorry, but since when does America have a perfect system?” This is NOT an American issue, its global.
“regardless of the laws.” Most people I think you will find have a healthy regard for the law.
If there's grass on the feild, play ball. Do you like 10 years olds?
“Like I said, to minors who consent.” What if a 13 year old consents to being shoot in the head because they seen it on tv, does that make it ok?
Spence56 “It's rather telling that the OP uses a term such as "targets" 17 year olds. An aggressor and an abuser tends to target his/her victims also.” What kind of person tries to discredit someone they don’t even know? Why defend these people?
LaughingBlueEyes “The OP then takes his story, twists it just a bit to suit her needs and posts a new thread.” The OP is male and not a “her”, perhaps a bit more diligence is needed. The original story is about a 25 year old man asking if it is ok to hit on a 17 year old girl, so your advice is that this is ok, that’s your option and you are entitled to it every bit as much as I am entitled to mine.
SassySky nicely put.
Tossed_Salad “of course some know how to use birth control better than others, so are never 'found out'..” this is not a post about birth control, its about adults abusing minors.
“you are quite naive if you think that 15 or 16 or 17 year old girls don't enjoy sex” again this post isn’t about 15 or 16 or 17 year old girls do or don't enjoy sex.
SunzofMan “If they're consenting it's ok.” If you consent to letting my shoot you in the head does that make it ok?
Arcturo “centuries ago it was acceptable for men to marry and breed 13 yr olds” we live in the year 2007 not 1600, laws, morals and ethics change and have changed a lot since then. Get with the times.
lonestardaddy thank you for a positive input.
VioletSkye nicely put. As someone who was molested I fully agree with you.
“Just because a man can stick his johnson in a girl because her body seems to be maturing doesn't make it right” adult women also molest boys.
Some food for thought – I have three children, their mother committed suicide two years ago, she was raped at 12 by a 18 year old. Seven attempted suicides from the age of 15, she got it right the eight time. This is the effect of having sex with minors.
Ever wonder how many people in prison wouldn’t be in prison if they weren’t raped or abused? Yet the aggressor gets away with a sentence of a few years and the victim get a sentence for life. To all that think its ok to have sex with minors maybe the next time you get mugged, burgled, stabbed, etc. you should adapt the same philosophy as you have stated in this post. | |
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