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Posted: 8/29/2007 9:43:46 AM | Keep the laws the way they are and enforce them. They are there for a reason and personally if any adult ever "violated" my child then the law would be coming after me and they would be having a funeral! | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 9:46:49 AM | Like I said, to minors who consent. There's a difference between having sex and being raped.
I'm quoting your exact words. If and when you have children and your 5 year old or your 9 year old tell you that the 20 year old next door was really nice and rubbed their vaginas and it felt really good...then you remember this.
The same for the other young woman who is married and looking for intimate encounters. I'm glad this thread is here though. The men who posted in a positive way about sexual relations between an adult and a minor are showing their true selves.
If anyone is confused about Bunni's post...she specifically said "minors who consent" and the definition of "minor" is different from state to state (not sure about Canada). She didn't specify an age for the minor...just minor. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 10:45:36 AM |
Umm are you on crack? Where on earth did you see me say I wanted to have sex when I was nine? Perhaps you need to go back to school and learn reading and comprehension.
Pedophilia ephebophilia may be ok in your book, but not in mine.
Violetsky:
Okay, okay, way to make yourself look incredibly dumb-- try to insult someone by telling them they need to learn reading and comprehension, yet COMPLETELY misinterpret the meaning of my post. I ASKED you if you wanted to have sex whe you were nine-- did I SAY you wanted to have sex when you were nine? NO. Not Once. I don't think I'm the one who needs to catch up on comprehension.
I was asking you, because my point is that what happened to you was molestation, possibly even rape, and you DIDN'T consent to it-- making it very wrong. Learn to read, Violetsky. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 10:54:22 AM | ^^^And that's where the slope gets slippery...what if a 9 year old consented to have sex with a 17 year old? Is that OK? What about 8? 7? What if it wasn't sex but just an older "guy" playing with her?
The point is that we, as a society, set rules. We may not like those rules, but we have to have them. Saying that as long as a "minor" consents, it's OK is just bizarre.
Edit: Yep, she's repeating it below. She does think that "regardless" of age..as long as both parties are OK with it, it's wonderful. These are the moral beliefs of a young woman from the next generation. I hope it's not the beliefs of all. Otherwise, a child that is old enough to say Yes will be legal fair game for any sexual predator out there. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 11:03:34 AM | Like I said, if they don't want an older man, or another person of their age, even, touching them, then the person should leave them alone.
Honestly, I haven't had ONE person say why it's so horrible and bizarre. If both parties are okay with it, regardless of age, then I don't see an issue. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 11:04:14 AM | Moderator where are you? This thread needs deleted NOW!
J | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 11:41:04 AM | I imagine that many of the young female posters here that had sex with older men very early on figured out the power that their sexuality gives them over males and little else about their sexuality and the emotional aspect of sexuality so that is why they feel that it is OK for adult males and minor girls to be having sex, because at that age they have control over very little else and being able to use that to get what they want is certainly very attractive. But at some point will start to deal with those decisions and start to really understand what it means to have a healthy sexuality.
That I believe is the difference in an adult having sex with a minor. Minors generally are still struggling with their identity and all the confusion that comes with reaching that strange range of years called the teenage years and learning from the mistakes that happen when trying to break away and stand on their own. That is the problem that I have with adults have sex with minors, the majority of these young people are very vulnerable and being exposed to some one who does not always have their best interests at heart is a major issue and if an adult cannot see that this type of behaviour is not in the best interest of the young person then these people are only in it for themselves regardless of what they may profess. And to anyone that says that people have to learn from their mistakes that argument is ludicrous in this instance, dont purposely put people in harms way and then walk away abdicating responsibility to these youngsters.
Dont pee on my leg and tell me its raining.<img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0> | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 12:49:01 PM |
admit that girls are getting worse.
In britain we have 13 year olds with 2 kids.
Girls as young as 7 are wearing thongs.
Im always seeing 15 year olds flirting with older guys.
Young girls are starting to look older.
They wear more make up, they wear skimpy clothes and they ACT more mature.
By acting more mature, do you mean acting like skanks? | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 12:50:14 PM | Hahahaha Yeah.
I was trying to be polite :P | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 12:57:36 PM | Cute Red Mandy:..
So Im a lonely prude because I didnt sleep with my boyfriends fathers at 15..?
....Lmao are you serious?
For a start.. you cheated on your boyfriends.. with a family member no less.
That isnt being "sexually liberated" in my book.
In my book, thats just being a tramp.
And if your going to argue and get personal at least state facts.
1) Im not lonely
and
2) Im not a prude
lol :) | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 1:03:10 PM | Belfastbloke
Moderator where are you? This thread needs deleted NOW!
Can you explain what rule has being broken? Why do you want this thread deleted? | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 1:14:05 PM |
Can you explain what rule has being broken? Why do you want this thread deleted?
The rule which should be written now. 'No discussion about sex with minors'. The fact that the thread continues to be contributed to only serves to fuel the justification for it in the first place. Of which there was none. Even the description of the thread in the forum listings was enough to make my friend run a mile and not consider joining pof, ever. I'm quite sure there are some great arguments, insight and wisdom within this thread but i'm a father and this uncomfortable (I'm sure plenty of people feel the same) so lets move on. Please...
J | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 1:22:15 PM | I could have sworn when i clicked on the forum page it said sex with mirrors.....sex with minors is even more cutting....how bizarre that it is even still up?
personally I would prefer a run in with the jagged edge of a broken mirror than even consider what this particular thread is discussing....
all I can say to those that even consider it is:
off with their heads......(and you know which heads I'm talking about) | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 1:24:10 PM | Bunni,
People under the age of 16 are children.
Adults should not be sleeping with children.
It does not matter if the child (lets say a 15 year old) consents to having sex with an adult (lets say a 26 year old).
Its illegal for a reason and that reason being they arent mentally mature.
You can bleat all you want that they are mature and are consenting.
At the end of the day they are children.
If a 7 year old girl screams she wants a pony do you give in and give it them?
And then what happens when they get the pony?
Can they handle the responsibility of looking after it?
No.
Children dont think about the consequence of their actions, thats why they are children.
The action in that example is they want a pony..
The consequence is they have the responsibility of taking care of it..
Action: Sleeping around when your a child
Consequence: Unwanted teenage pregnancy.
End result: ADULTS (i.e the parents of the child) taking care of mother and baby.
What ever happened to self respect and morals?
Children should behave like children and enjoy their childhood.
And its our responsibility as adults to give them boundries.
We should be taking care of them for christ sake, not sleeping with them. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 1:26:40 PM | Belfast Bloke - Look at this thread as a warning, that people like this do exist...people who will justify their perversions in anyway possible, even to the detriment of a minor child. A record of their justifications is right here. Personally, I'd rather it be in the open than hidden.
I understand your discomfort. I have 3 daughters. They're over 18 now, but the attention they got from "old" men (20s and beyond) as they worked as waitresses and clerks had them in tears many, many times in their teen years.
Pigeon
We should be taking care of them for christ sake, not sleeping with them.
Great statement Pigeon....full of compassion, understanding, and care. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 1:31:21 PM | Belfastbloke if you feel so strong, and perhaps your view is valid then e-mail a mod and ask directly.
I hope everyone feels uncomfortable with this issue but the issue remains regardless and it is a global issue so why not try to address it rather than bury our heads in the sand? This thread was posted in an attempt to get options from accross the world not to try and get new members. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 2:07:38 PM | | cute red mandy: if you read my posts, assuming you didn't you would see i don't have a problem with you sleeping with older men if thats what you want to do than so be it. But sleeping with your boyfriends Fathers is wrong. As a father if my Sons girlfriend asked me or even tried to seduce me into sleeping with her i would kick her a*s and her sorry little trampy style the f**k out of my house. You need help. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 2:16:09 PM | aka Mr Smith or should i say mr short tempered penis swinger.
Would i consent to you shooting me in the head? Mmmmm alot - in fact every person who disagrees with this thread are taking the original question way out of context.
Im surprised these posts like this lame a*shole 'mr smith' haven't been deleted yet.
So you would be ok with murder but totally oppose consensual dating between a 25 and 17 year old. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 2:31:24 PM | | all I have to say is all of the guys on here can agree that Bunnni looks damn good lol | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 2:54:34 PM |
The rule which should be written now. 'No discussion about sex with minors'. The fact that the thread continues to be contributed to only serves to fuel the justification for it in the first place. Of which there was none. Even the description of the thread in the forum listings was enough to make my friend run a mile and not consider joining pof, ever. I'm quite sure there are some great arguments, insight and wisdom within this thread but i'm a father and this uncomfortable (I'm sure plenty of people feel the same) so lets move on. Please...
I agree. People who think it's right to sleep with minors will do it, no matter what is said in this forum. I'm not sure why this wasn't deleted to begin with...it's very uncomfortable to read. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 3:54:29 PM | | most of you make it sound like we're talking about a 50 year old man molesting freakin pre-schoolers ffs!! this is a topic you cant be black and white about because the grey areas are real....ive said it before...theres adults and then theres adults just like theres kids and then theres kids....yes 17 is techincally a minor but come on....if youre full grown old enough to drive a car and possibly live on youre own....youre not a child...most 17 year olds these days are 17 going on 35....ppl keep acting like this 25 year old will be corrupting her innocence...as if theres actually any 17 year old girls left who have any innocence to corrupt....if this dude is a 25 year old virgin shes probably corrupting his innocence. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 5:09:26 PM |
So, VioletSky, you wanted to have sex with a man when you were nine? You told him you wanted it? You told him it was okay? Had you started YOUR mensus at nine? I'm sorry, but perhaps you should actually read what I'm saying before trying to argue with it.
Like I said, to minors who consent. There's a difference between having sex and being raped.
Plus, do you think you'd have as big of an issue with it if society didn't make sexual acts seem so dirty? It's a NATURAL thing! WHY make it seem like it's something to be kept private, even? Our society is still drawing alot of it's laws from religion-- something that SHOULD NOT interfere with the morals of the entire country.
Okay Bunnni, show me where I said I wanted to have sex with an adult when I was nine. Nowhere did I say that anywhere. Basically what you said up there was that I wanted it and questioned me about it, then intimate that I may have told him I wanted it.
You did not ASK me if I wanted to have sex, if it was forced, or whatever. You, girly, need to learn how to phrase a question.
Violetsky:
Okay, okay, way to make yourself look incredibly dumb-- try to insult someone by telling them they need to learn reading and comprehension, yet COMPLETELY misinterpret the meaning of my post. I ASKED you if you wanted to have sex whe you were nine-- did I SAY you wanted to have sex when you were nine? NO. Not Once. I don't think I'm the one who needs to catch up on comprehension.
I was asking you, because my point is that what happened to you was molestation, possibly even rape, and you DIDN'T consent to it-- making it very wrong. Learn to read, Violetsky.
Tell us, how early on in life did you have sex? Hmm? You seem to advocate all of this quite loudly.
And to those who call most of us in this thread the Politically Correct Police? It's called having a conscience, knowing when to say no, and walking away. I'm betting the men who shouted loudest in this thread have done exactly as Bunnni has said. "If it bleeds, it can breed."
Sure, age of consent in some states is 16 to 17, but an adult is someone who is legally 18. How hard is it to wait one more year, if a relationship is wanted, not just a lay?
Do many of you walk around and feel that just because you have an urge to f*ck, that you can, with more or less, anyone? Just because it feels good, do it?
What the hell happened to integrity, honor, or just plain respecting something?
And Bunnni, when you have a little girl of your own, maybe just maybe, you'll realize how harmful what you've posted in here could be to her and her future.
Guys viewing this thread and thinking it's a-okay... Do you have daughters this age? How would you feel if one of your buddies wanted to have sex with your teenage (we're talking 15-17 here)daughter? Or maybe someone even a wee bit younger? How would that make you feel?
Does it make you a cool dad, someone your guy friends will look up to with envy, knowing your buds banging your daughter?
I'm an extremely open minded person when it comes to all things sexual, in most every way, but when it comes to someone who isn't an adult, someone who hasn't gotten out of highschool, or can't fend for themselves other than thinking they have a hot bod and can do what they want with it, I'm damned sure going to do my best to guide them to wait, if at all possible. I'm not blind in seeing children are having sex earlier and earlier, but does it make it right? Who's taking care of children these children are having? The parents or grandparents of the kids having sex, that's who.
It sets a standard for everyone younger and younger, looking for something emotional that may take the place of something else, or hell, just for the sake of instant gratification (Because, hey, that's what society is all about now days) that it will be just fine and dandy to screw like rabbits just because it feels good, no matter how young they are.
Another point...yes, centuries ago, they did marry young. The men took young girls to carry on a line, a name, to extend a family, not always out of love, but an obligation to make babies with a healthy girl, would who could bear many, for years to come. Many died in child birth because they weren't completely physically mature yet, but hey, he could have sex with her so what the heck.
Uptight? Nah. I know a lot of you have read my posts. I'm not even close to being uptight, but I will look out for my daughter.
And, if any of this thread is making you all uncomfy, go to perverted justice.com and read some of the chat logs of the men who thinks it's hot to have sex with a teen or preteen. Scary? You bet. Wake up. I wouldn't close my eyes if I were you. It's all around.
This thread was about sex with a minor. Key word minor. If you have to ask, don't do it. If you genuinely want a relationship with this person, more power to you, but wait a year. She'll be legal by then. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 6:51:48 PM |
If you have to ask, don't do it. If you genuinely want a relationship with this person, more power to you, but wait a year. She'll be legal by then.
Thats what you don't seem to understand,
1) sometimes you just cannot know, I've seen women who are 30 and look like 12 year olds while some 16-17 year olds look like they are 25.
Look up a woman named Kitty Jung in the adult entertainment (porn) the woman looks like a damn child yet she is 22, has a kid and has been in porn since 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Jung
when I first fell on one of her scenes I was shocked, thinking someone had sent me child porn, till I looked her up on Google.
2) depending on where you live, if they are 16 they are legal.
In Canada age of consent is 16, at 16 they are considered legal for most things and if they fall in love and pursue a guy who isn't after them just because they are 16 then all the power to them.
as for whoever posted a question about a 6-7 year old consenting to sex with a 17 year old, no, it's not legal/ consent between minors in most countries has to be within a 3-4 year age range and there has to be proof that there was no manipulation or force involved. Otherwise it's considered statutory rape.
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admit that girls are getting worse.
In britain we have 13 year olds with 2 kids.
Girls as young as 7 are wearing thongs.
Im always seeing 15 year olds flirting with older guys.
Young girls are starting to look older.
They wear more make up, they wear skimpy clothes and they ACT more mature. By acting more mature, do you mean acting like skanks?
Take a good look at the adults around them... Mommy is trying so hard to look younger with all her makeup, plastic surgery, botox, creams, products, diets and sexy clothes that she probably can't realize the example she is setting for her daughter.
And since aging women are obsessed with youth, the media feeds on it and throws it back in their faces, since they want the cycle to continue they prepare the younger generations for the exact same desires, thus with the influence of wanting to be beautiful like mommy and wanting to be beautiful like all the beautiful women that the media throws at them, the dress the way mom and the media dresses, and act the way mom and the media act.
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I also love how you only talky about how it's only men who are going after after 16 -17 year old girls, where it's been proven that the opposite occurs just as often, older women "going after" 16-17 year old boys.
please change your prescription glasses and broaden your horizons of the world people, you're just making fools of yourselves. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 7:15:37 PM | | I think its sick. Grow people should not look at a child in such a manner. Me and a good friend of mine used to hunt down people like that and have a nice chat about how and why its wrong. Most times it ended up with me,him or both of us in jail but when you read in the paper about some 14 year old ended up raped and killed you tend to think the way me and my friend do. Its wrong and if you hit on a young girl or boy you will get whats comming to you and you wont like it. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 7:36:25 PM | | any woman under 45 is a minor to me, I just think its best to stay within your own age , because i have learned there is a damn site more to a woman , than a young body , | |
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