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| | Sex with minorsPage 9 of 35 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35) | TossedSalad, spare me the ole time to lobby for laws, self righteous argument bullshit please, its as old as my grandmothers nightgown
I dont care if some of you guys want to justify dating teenyboppers, some of us who finds it disgusting can voice our opinion, and I personally think its wrong for a adult to be dating a minor just because the guy is socially inept in meeting women his age that doesn't give him the right to chase the minors, I dont give a rats ass what other countries laws are, this topic was about a 17 year old and a 25 year old. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/6/2007 9:34:46 AM | so you want to continue to do nothing, effectively? fine with me too
nice to turn it around, when I say that I think maybe a person should not go to PRISON for dating a17 year old, you say that means that I "advocate" 'going after minors'.
a bit of a difference there, that is analagous to the 'anti-choice' people saying that 'pro-choice' people "advocate" killing babies, having abortions. Often not true, many think that abortion should be a LAST RESORT in SOME cases, available as an option, not a 'first resort'
nice play with words, though :)
its as old as my grandmothers nightgown
preferring 'grandmothers' to 'minors' then, are you?
sorry but IMO that is sick.. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/6/2007 11:33:13 AM | TossedSalad you appear like a Monday morning armchair psychoanalyst trying to tell others what they are supposedly thinking in spite of what was actually said.
nice to turn it around, when I say that I think maybe a person should not go to PRISON for dating a17 year old, you say that means that I "advocate" 'going after minors'. and I said that where?
a bit of a difference there, that is analagous to the 'anti-choice' people saying that 'pro-choice' people "advocate" killing babies, having abortions. Often not true, many think that abortion should be a LAST RESORT in SOME cases, available as an option, not a 'first resort' what does that have to do with a 17 year dating a 25 year old?
preferring 'grandmothers' to 'minors' then, are you? sorry but IMO that is sick you are a stupid cat, how come you're a such a cat all the time, why cant you be a dog , you don't even bark? you make no sense at all, you're straw manning this thread to a comical degree | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/6/2007 2:45:37 PM | | well I think its up to the person in question I also think its none of anyone elses business unless the person is retarded if ya haven't taught yur daughter propper morals and values its you thats digusting there sunshine boy yur just mad its not you getting banged by the 25 year old guy loser | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/6/2007 2:53:58 PM | | you seem like a child sport, open minds create open options wich create life thats not borring and structured like I'm sure yurs is I'm still fascinated byt the fact you state what should be not yur opinion my guess is yur an uneducated call canter employee | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/6/2007 3:39:56 PM | Even back in the 1800’s (seems like it) when I was a kid - 99% of seventeen year old girls new EXACTLY what they were doing (or not doing).
While I think at that age a 25 yo guy is a bit TOO old for her (she at 17) - I don’t think he deserves to be jailed or shot over it.
Unless the 17 year old gal has actual learning disabilities - she has a pretty dang good idea by then what she is getting herself into.
There really is not all that much difference in a 17 yo girl and a 19 year old girl.
Raising two daughters - I shivered at the memories of me (at 17) and my girl friend (at 15) having sex like wild monkeys every time we were together ................ that is just life. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/6/2007 4:05:45 PM | | Okay it was brought up here by someone that some girls can start menstruating at 9. Does it then stand to reason that she can be IMPREGNATED at 9? People are missing the point here about why it's not a good idea to have sex with a young girl who isn't mature enough yet to, or capable of, raising a child on her own because sure enough when she winds up expecting, that 25-year old's a-packing his $hit and a-movin on. This is about responsibility, not lust? | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/6/2007 4:06:34 PM | in all honesty it depends on how mature the minor is and how responsible the 25 y/o is .
its a very gray area | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/6/2007 4:28:02 PM |
I don't see a problem with it if the younger party wants it.
Most younger parties don't know what they want. They can however be easily swayed into doing what someone else wants and can even be fooled into thinking it's also what they want. Teenaged girls are still KIDS and due to their lack of experience they are so dramatically idealistic and their heads are already so filled with notions of grandeur that it only adds to their confusion to infiltrate them even more. Leave them kids alone and find someone on your own intellectual level. My take is that it's all about control. Finding an impressionable mind to manipulate into doing everything you demand, no challenge there! | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/14/2007 8:43:10 PM | | No lay is worth going to prison for. Do you really have to learn that the hard way? | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/14/2007 8:47:19 PM | | If you are so sexually incompetent that you can't satisfy an experienced woman, and so feel the need to do children, move to Japan. 12 year olds are legal there. I learned this while stationed there, and treating local grade schoolers for VD after some Marines infected them. The jarheads were afraid they would be charged with statutory rape, but couldn't be. The 12, and 13, year old girls consented, and were legally able to do so. 12 is the age of consent in Japan. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/14/2007 8:57:50 PM | | U must be a younger party, huh? | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/14/2007 8:59:42 PM | | Judging from your pic with that thing in your mouth, it's a very strange world out there. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/15/2007 2:09:05 AM | | there is hardly any difference at all between 17 and 25 though....im exactly the same as i was then. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/15/2007 6:53:36 AM | You see Vinny Low, that comment alone tells me something about you, you are either socially inept or you might be a piece of chicken short a snack pack
there is hardly any difference at all between 17 and 25 though WTF, sorry Sport ,I have teammates and friends who have daughters that age, who would throw you a beating if you were caught dating them.
Off topic, how many 17 years out there are playing for the Roughriders? | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 3:31:32 PM | can every person who has answered this thread addmit to the age they were when they lost thier viginity, if so, do they look back at this and say, I was immature or I got what I wanted.
Statistics from a sex survey : 104,000 respondents - 31 countries., the answers are men first woman second.
under 10 8% 1% 10 - 14 10 % 14 % 15 - 16 28% 37% 17 - 18 29% 16% 19 - 21 15% 7% 22 - 24 4% 2% 25 + 2% 1%
Interesting isn't it, girls (the little sluts) started sowing their oats long before the boys did, from this it tells me that 68 % of females had experienced sex by the age of 18, did they all wait till the day they turned 18, I think not, girls mature earlier than boys and from my experience they know what they want
and from what I read in PoF, they still want it. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 3:47:04 PM | | i am socially inept....my question is what are you supposed to do if you are socially inept....go shoot yourself? only the superior individuals are entitled to live? im the 1st to agree that only the strong survive and only some ppl are worthy of life and happiness so if we all agree then come and f ucking shoot me....please!! | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 3:50:39 PM | when my youngest girl was 15, an older man tried hitting on her. He was 28 I dealt with it very quickly. Suffice to say, he won't be doing it again for a long time.
As in the above post, don't "blame" the female population, blame the parents who are not being aware of what their children are doing/experiencing. This requires attention and communication | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 4:06:46 PM | | my 22 yr old had a girlfriend of 17 .They had known each other since she was 14 and was 19 . Been sweethearts since 16/21 .Her parents trusted him completely.He even slept on there couch ,she went on vacation with us very carefully supervised by the other adults.Planned on getting married after she graduated from college many years away.Where they sexually active in this day and age probably .Both families set them down seperate and as a couple and talked to them about sexual responsibility.Unfortunately their plans never got to materialize as her and 2 of her friends were killed in a car accident 2 days after she turned 17 in March.He is still close to the family.My 26 year old daughter married the man see started dating at 17 he was 25 and her cousins friend since middle school [her first boyfriend thanks to a rape at 15].They married when she was 24.So while I am not thrilled with a 17/25 having sex it would I would also have to say it would depend on the circumstance.Such as how long have they known each other ,does the family know the person and trust him?Do the family know of the relationship and how do they feel about it?I think all these needs to factor in. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 4:21:52 PM | It is all relative. Personally, if it were my 17 yo daughter who was dating a 25 yo guy, i would be inclined to have a private talk with him. I am sure we would both walk away from that talk with a better understanding of what each of us expected of the other. And then i would arrange to have him knee-capped.
That is the emotional answer. But it is not even remotely the “correct” one. Do some digging in your Family History folks. Look at the ages listed on marriage licences. A little Genealogy may make your cringe at what has been said here.
I am not thrilled at the idea of a 17 year old and a 25 year old dating. Yes, there are some “Man Bites Dog” examples of lasting relationships that started out similarly. There are also to many stories of victimization and manipulation.
There is no “correct” answer to this one. But there is the potential for emotional reactions from very well meaning, if diametrically opposed, opinion holders. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 7:34:28 PM |
Do some digging in your Family History folks. Look at the ages listed on marriage licences. A little Genealogy may make your cringe at what has been said here.
I would have to say that almost every single one of those relationships were designed to end in marriage where the male was intending to take the woman/girl into his care and support her for life, they were chaperoned and there was very little premarital sex and dumping after the sex act going on as the father was sure to be there looking for some satisfaction for his daughters reputations and the family honour. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 7:43:41 PM | | Difficult question to answer. If the guy who was 25 years old really liked the 17 year old woman, he should wait until she is an adult--which is 18 in Canada--to have a sexual relationship with her. At 18, young men and women can do what they want. They are adults. I don't think this is a big deal for me--but it would be a big issue for the father of 17 year old woman. As well, it would depend on the maturity of the 17 year old. In the end, teenagers will do what they want to do, and their parents will not be able to stop them. | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 7:46:28 PM | Spare me the woah is me crap Vinny, if you know you're socially inept.... do something about it, instead of sitting on your ass and whining about it and checking out romper room for dates
And I thought starving children in third world countries had it bad? good lord | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 7:50:00 PM |
i am socially inept....my question is what are you supposed to do if you are socially inept....go shoot yourself? only the superior individuals are entitled to live? im the 1st to agree that only the strong survive and only some ppl are worthy of life and happiness so if we all agree then come and f ucking shoot me....please!! Thank you!  | |
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| Sex with minors Posted: 9/16/2007 7:53:34 PM | I really don't see any problem with it. As long as they shower before hand. There is no reason they shouldn't have sex like everyone else. You should probably do it with the light off tho because being in the dark so much it would hurt their eyes.
OH, you said minors I thought you said miners! Never mind.  | |
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