| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/29/2007 7:16:06 PM | | You know him well enough to let him stay at your house for a day while you're at work, yet you purposely unplugged your computer so he couldn't use it? How cruel. I personally would have called and asked, but had it been the microwave or the flat screen I would have assumed you were just paranoid of lightning strikes. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/29/2007 9:06:58 PM | I don't understand a lot of you people. If I don't like and respect someone, they are NOT allowed into my home. When guests stay over I show them where the computer, dishes, towels, etc. are, and tell them to make themselves at home. Evidently some of you are letting hobos and degenerate low-lifes have free reign over your home.
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/29/2007 10:46:14 PM | I think the main problem is that to you the computer is an intimate part of your personal life. So naturally you expect other people would treat it that way.
He seems to view a computer as just a tool, and he acted accordingly.
You both made assumptions based on your relationship to computers. You assumed he had the same relationship with his computer that you do with yours.
I had a similar issue with my ex-girl friend. She always wanted to use my desktop computer. I always felt uncomfortable with her using it but let her anyways because it was the only computer in our apartment and I loved her enough to take a risk. To her it was just a machine, like all the other computers in the world. To me (since I have built every desktop I have ever owned) my computer was my child. So I bought a laptop for college and pretty much gave it to her. The funny thing is that even after she got a brand new laptop, she was always trying sneak on to my desktop computer and would say that she likes to use my computer because it's so nice.
She never did understand that the reason it was so nice is that I care for and maintain it like a family member, because to me it is that important. My computer is art piece, and I use it to create even more art. If she were to somehow break it (which she actually did once, on accident of course) it would be like spilling coffee on a painting I had worked months on and then breaking all my paint brushes.
Ironically, she trashed the laptop I gave her within a year. She didn't do it on purpose, just out of negligence and not being careful with it, because it wasn't important to her. Just goes to show that behavior you find shocking may not even rate a raised eyebrow to someone else.
So the moral of the story is that if something is important to you, make sure the other person in your life understands how important it is. If you assume he knows, you are in for a surprise.
You are right to be upset, your space was violated. The key here is to remember he didn't know he was violating it. So don't be angry at him, instead be upset that you forgot to tell him you would rather not have him use it. If he is a decent guy at all, he will see how much it means to you and will probably feel even worse about the situation than you do once you explain why you don't want him using your computer. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 10:40:21 AM | | If you would ALL just delete your browsing history on closing IE and password protect or encrypt your personal PORN collections, nothing would really be amiss here. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 12:50:39 PM |
I consider my computer something very personal but if you don´t fully trust him why leave him in your house in the first place?.
Or even have someone you dont trust at your house. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 2:19:37 PM | My ex fiance is an accomplished hacker and actually hacked my email.
That doesn't take much of a hacker. Your password was likely something in your life. Dog's name, car, kind of beer your drink..... Guessing a password isn't hacking.
Even a mildly strong password would prevent that.
To guess mine, you would have to speak Russian, try to figure out which Russian word is loosely incorporated into it, know the name of my dog three dogs ago, know my social security number, guess how many and which of the 9 numbers are involved and in what order, and figure out if I replaced an S with a 5 or a $, an O with a 0 an A with a @......
Parts of all of those things make up my password. And even at that I change it from time to time. People who use the same password for everything are easy targets.
The top 5 passwords I find in my work at a network tech are love, sex, secret, password, and private, followed close by a wife, pet or child's name. Brands are next, if it's beer, booze, car......
So many ways you could have kept him off your computer. Pulling the plug is not one of them.
Guests in my home can use any of the 6 computers I have on my network. The best thing they could steal is my recipe for cranberry orange oatmeal cookies....
Unless you are stupid enough to use one of those silly "fill my passwords in for me" programs, or the "when you come to a form fill it in and include my credit card number" programs. If you use those you deserve what you get. May as well keep your money in your mailbox instead of a bank. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 2:27:43 PM | | ^^^ nope he didnt guess my password. He sent me a trojan which my anti-virus didnt pick up because it was so new. He showed me how it worked later. Pretty scary what they can do with a trojan. They have access to absolutely everything you type and can look through your whole hard drive remotely. Anti virus programs are better now. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 3:12:16 PM |
If you would ALL just delete your browsing history on closing IE and password protect or encrypt your personal PORN collections, nothing would really be amiss here.
WHAT he did on the computer is not her issue. THAT he used the computer is her issue. She never said he was snooping around, just that she didn't want him to use it at all. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 3:17:09 PM | Hello Funny Girl, Since no one farther away than 75 miles can contact you I assume you think THE ONE lives close by. I am sure many of the men here would be willing to do whatever to find a woman like you. So can you ease up on the restrictions a bit? | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 4:39:05 PM | Well, OP, I can see how you feel violated. After all, he touched something private.
He's a fellow POFer, so he probably cannot go a day w/out checking his internet, email and the like, and you left him at your house. He probably thought it was his reward for cutting your grass.
If I stay at a friends house, she usually tells me what I can and cannot touch, and I know that if I break her rules, I expect to get an earful at the best.
If friends come round, and I leave them here, with my computer, I add a password to my computer before they get here.
May I make a few recommendations? 1) Whenever someone stays at your house w/out, set some ground rules before you leave. 2) Don't be subtle, like unplugging the computer. We don't do subtle. Just tell us. We respect honesty far more. 3) Add a password to your computer. 4) If you don't want a password on your computer, then set one before you leave someone alone with your computer, and clear it after he leaves.
Then you'll feel safer. And not feel violated.
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 5:08:31 PM |
Not only would I be wildly surfing on your computer; I would have raided your fridge as well. I like some good eats while I'm surfing. And don't forget long distance phone calls!  | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 5:10:10 PM | ^ All while wearing her underpants?
.... what?
Edit- just to be absolutely crystal clear.... that was a joke. (And since I've said it, it is not an un funny one | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 5:49:35 PM | Lucky that is all he did...... If he sleeps in my bed and uses my bathroom, well, geeze louise, the computer is nada to me. If ya wanted it off limits, say so or password it. I would not leave someone at my house until I knew that I knew that I knew it was ok in any way shape or form.
If he was mowing my grass, I'd let him use my computer and even rent him a movie! | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 7:02:27 PM | If you did my dishes and put away stuff when I was at work/wherever.. I would feel violated if you touched any of my shyte... I would assume you riffled through all my things... Golden Rule: If you don't like something don't you do it too... just came back to you is all...
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 7:03:50 PM | Closed her account yesterday.
Now we'll never know if he mowed her lawn....
I can't believe she posted this, and I can't believe it's 6 pages long.
The only thing guests can't do in my house is smoke. Or injure my dog..... If they messed with my dog, I would run THEM over with the lawn mower. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 7:11:44 PM | naw... he killed her... did a Sopranos on the body with parts in 3 states... then stayed in the house for three months until he hacked/cracked into all her stuff and changed everything via the mail through power of attorney and then sold her house and liquidated everything and then rode the mower to the Lamborghini Dealer... the rest is history. It'll be on Nancy Grace next week with her Horse Nostrils Flaring....
urggghhhh EGAD! | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 7:23:32 PM | OMG A computer is NOT a TV or a toaster. Anyone who says that should have a good think.
So maybe you don't have critical or personal info on there, but a good hacker (one that hasn't been caught) DOES NOT HACK FROM HOME! | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 7:26:26 PM |
Not only would I be wildly surfing on your computer; I would have raided your fridge as well. I like some good eats while I'm surfing. And don't forget long distance phone calls!
And trying on your underwear. | |
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 7:40:04 PM | Man, you guys have a VERY strange concept of what a hacker is..... sitting at a computer that is wide open and looking at files is NOT hacking. Nor is sending a virus that record keystrokes. Script kiddie stuff is not hacking.
Back in the days of busting into Unix systems and getting root..... roaming freely through files once you had system privs.... those were the days!!! Now there is so much black hat hacking that the true hackers who did it just to see if they could do it are gone. Now there are these despicable punks that steal information, etc.... White Hat hacking was fun!!! The fone phreaking, the whistle from the Captain Crunch cereal boxes, the DTMF tone generators..... the good old days!!! Now they just take an existing DDOS and modify it a little bit and claim to be hackers.....
Sometimes I miss my modem....
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| Helping himself to my computer............... Posted: 8/30/2007 8:08:25 PM | I think the message to be taken from all this is that everyone thinks differently. Don't expect people to think the same way you do about something like accessing the computer. There clearly is a difference of opinion on the issue, like so many others. If you have any doubts, why not eliminate them by telling the person how you feel?
On that note, I had a roommate who I let use my computer. He had his own account and mine was password protected. However one day I came home and found a wad of Kleenexes laying on the computer desk. I threw them away without a second thought and started surfing the Internet like usual. However a couple hours later I intermittently smelled something...peculiar.
I let it go a couple times but eventually my curiosity got the better of me and I started smelling around. I came to the trash can and found that was where it was coming from. Then I pinpointed it to the Kleenexes. Then reality hit me!!! It was "boy juice"!! He did that on MY computer! Needless to say, his account was prompty removed. I am still incredulous that he couldn't even have taken the time to dispose of his waste. My keyboard and desk got a good cleaning with rubbing alcohol shortly thereafter!! Oh and it wasn't long after that that he had to find other accommodations as well... | |
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