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| Short Skirt gets passenger kicked off plane
Posted: 9/8/2007 5:57:18 PM | Ah, the wisdom of airlines.
Throw people off for being drunk, give you advice about not dehydrating and then offer you wine with your little square meal. | |
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| Short Skirt gets passenger kicked off plane
Posted: 9/8/2007 5:59:37 PM | | There was nothing indecent about what she was wearing. There should have been no reason for them to do what they did. But it is a guarenteed way to loose even more customer respect. It also makes them the butt of a good number of jokes. | |
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| Short Skirt gets passenger kicked off plane
Posted: 9/8/2007 6:21:17 PM | | I'm trying to understand why a young woman would want to wear a minimum of clothing when travelling alone while the eyes of so many old perverts and unhappily married men covetously go over her contours. Or does this explain itself? | |
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Posted: 9/8/2007 6:33:25 PM | Same goes for a stripper. Doesn't mean it's OK to go naked in the street.
Now we've reduced the woman to taking off her clothes and shaking her goods to dirty ol' men for money...*cough*sex*ist*cough!*~forgive me, gotta cold, Im afraid.
I'm trying to understand why a young woman would want to wear a minimum of clothing when travelling alone while the eyes of so many old perverts and unhappily married men covetously go over her contours. Or does this explain itself? Why dont you explain it to us?
Why must a woman alter her style of clothes in order to prohibit "old perverts" from visually molesting her? Get some self control, people, besides, I dont think that she was the one making the big fuss about others looking at her, now was she?  | |
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Posted: 9/8/2007 6:45:11 PM | "Why dont you explain it to us?"
Social order, which has pretty much slipped to practical non-existence anyway, asks that we try not to arouse feelings in members of the opposite sex that might lead to infidelity in their existing relationships through our gestures or attire (or lack of it). In other words, why not save yourself for the night clubs where it's a free for all and you can let it all hang out and no one will be hurt. | |
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Posted: 9/8/2007 6:54:35 PM | Social order, which has pretty much slipped to practical non-existence anyway, asks that we try not to arouse feelings in members of the opposite sex that might lead to infidelity in their existing relationships through our gestures or attire (or lack of it). In other words, why not save yourself for the night clubs where it's a free for all and you can let it all hang out and no one will be hurt.
Well, now that you put it that way....pretty wise thinkin' ya got there, garry. Good on ya, doll. | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 4:51:00 AM | Still, one wonders where you would draw a line- I dunno if anyone noticed, but you could easily catch a glimpse of her panties when she sat down(and they were glorious)- for the people who support her on this, would it be okay for me to ride in the airplane without any pants on? Or without a shirt?(yes, my picture is confusing, but I'm a dude)
After all, as some users have pointed out- no dress code- so why can't I?
And she complained about how embarrassing it was to receive such a compliant and then be stared at by all the people on the flight.....but going on national TV and doing the exact same thing....isn't embarrassing? | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 6:53:17 AM |
A woman being comfortable when others look at her with interest or admiration, even if simply due to physical traits, such as nice legs or breasts, does not mean that she will be comfortable when others look at her judgementally,
Sorry, Amaretto, but admiration IS a form of judgment, in case you had a temporary lapse of thought there. No one has a license to demand that others only give them positive feedback. We're not Princess Ebbert's loyal subjects. If she's out to elicit reactions, then she gets to take the whole gamut without complaint, so long as she's not harrassed. If she or anyone else wants to avoid negativity, muffle everything.
And she complained about how embarrassing it was to receive such a compliant and then be stared at by all the people on the flight.....but going on national TV and doing the exact same thing.
BRILLIANT point. | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 7:17:03 AM |
A woman being comfortable when others look at her with interest or admiration, even if simply due to physical traits, such as nice legs or breasts, does not mean that she will be comfortable when others look at her judgementally, sizing her up to be morally incorrect because of her style of dress and while joining in on throwing stones at her with others, you disrespect yourself as well.
I doubt anyone threw stones at Kyla Ebbert. How would Ms. Ebbert know if they were looking at her judgementally or not.
Looking at the still shots of her outfit, I'm wondering if she had her white shirt tucked into her skirt while she boarded the plane and if not, that skirt would barely cover her "privates" .
She obviously dressed for attention and was successful. Unfortunately, the attention she got wasn't males going gaa gaa over her.
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Posted: 9/9/2007 7:28:39 AM | | Ohhhh look at me......... Wahhhhhh you are looking at me.......... Ohhhhh look at me.... I am now on TV in front of millions, and I am going to sue the pants off the airline so we can match. *Yawn* | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 7:41:17 AM |
I dunno if anyone noticed, but you could easily catch a glimpse of her panties when she sat down
Where did you see that? is there a video link you could post? | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 8:07:47 AM | I would wear the outfit in my profile photo on a plane. It's a short skirt, but I don't think it's distasteful (even for a woman of my age-45). The young lady (no matter where she works) was dressed and presenting herself in a respectable manner for the situation (flying on a plane to a doctor's appt).
It's bad enough the things we go through these days, just to board a plane. Why wasn't she stopped at the security checks? | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 8:52:08 AM | Chrysostom posted a link to the video on msg 13, but I prefer the simplicity of youtube style videos;
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/124682/Too_Sexy_to_Fly.html
around a minute thirty into it, you get a glimpse of it(at which point the camera is tactfully switched to another and she quickly crosses her legs)- and it looks glorious.  | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 9:45:57 AM | For the 99% of the people boarding that Boeing 737, they probably could not have given a rats rectum over what Miss Ebbert was wearing. Unless of course, she was wearing that outfit and happened to be obese. Then Southwest has a real crisis on their hands! What family would want to see THAT. Explain that one to your kids. THE HORROR!
I think the airlines have more important things to worry about, like........their abysmal on time and customer service records! Their propensity to hold passengers hostage on the tarmac for hours on end because of inclement weather. Getting passengers to one coast while getting their luggage to the other coast. Or getting customers luggage to them in one piece.
Unless she's packing explosives or nerve gas in them "double d's," herd her on the aircraft like the good "family airline" you are, and get me as expeditiously as possible from point "a" to point "b." And tell the Flight Attendants/Fashion Nazis to stop looking at hemlines and get the herd........errrrrr, passengers some more stale nuts and flat soft drinks! | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 10:20:45 AM | Come on Hacks- we don't know enough about this to claim that the flight attendants were the ones who had a problem- according to the Today video(posted above your post), which has a response from SouthWest Airlines seems to be, to me at least, that they were responding to a compliant from another customer;
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"SouthWest Airlines was responding to a concern about Ms. Ebbert's revealing attire on that flight that day. As a compromise, we asked her to adjust her clothing to be less revealing, she complied, and she traveled as scheduled"
"When a c0ncern is brought to our employee's attention, we address that situation with the customer(s) in a discreet and professional manner"
"Fortunately, as an airline that carries Approx. 96 Million customers a year, these situations are extremely rare"
I seriously do not understand what you people are complaining about- its a private business, and as of such are free to set their own rules- if you feel that setting an dress code that, apparently, is based on weither or not it receives a complaint, is somehow unfair to the consumer, thats fine- don't use that airline, and tell your friends to boycott what you deem to be an airline overstepping their bounds.
But its not our place to demand they let her fly- its not our planes, not our business we risk by creating - or ignoring- such rules and, let be honest here- there needs to be some idea of a dress code- what if I try to fly in a bathing suit? Or in a S&M suit? Or dressed up as Micky Mouse? Somewhere down the way, a line in the sand has to be made. In this case, it was when you could see her panties poking from under her skirt, and when one or more people complained.
Seems like a pretty legitimate point to draw the line.... | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 10:59:50 AM | "Come on Hacks- we don't know enough about this to claim that the flight attendants were the ones who had a problem- according to the Today video(posted above your post), which has a response from SouthWest Airlines seems to be, to me at least, that they were responding to a compliant from another customer;"
"Seems like a pretty legitimate point to draw the line...."
I'm sure they get complaints every 30 seconds. Just because they got ONE complaint does not make it a LEGITIMATE complaint. If I complained to the flight attendant because I felt her perfume smelled offensive, who that be a reason to take her off the airplane? To ask her to go shower? To lecture her about perfumes? If I felt she had bad breath, would that be reason to run her from the flight? To lecture her about halitosis? To tell her to go gargle with mouthwash? If she was wearing excessive makeup and her looks to me were scary and offensive, she she be removed from the plane? Told to scrub her face and put on more appropriate makeup? Or maybe put a blanket over her face for the duration of the flight?
No, sorry, the ONE passenger complaint was not legitimate enough to draw the line! | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 11:39:40 AM | >>> Just because they got ONE complaint does not make it a LEGITIMATE complaint.
But, once again, we're making assumptions- we just do not know- maybe 2/3 of the customers complained- we just do not know
>>>If I complained to the flight attendant because I felt her perfume smelled offensive, who that be a reason to take her off the airplane? To ask her to go shower? To lecture her about perfumes? If I felt she had bad breath, would that be reason to run her from the flight? To lecture her about halitosis? To tell her to go gargle with mouthwash? If she was wearing excessive makeup and her looks to me were scary and offensive, she she be removed from the plane?
You're comparing employee's to customers?
Southwest Airlines no doubt has codes of conduct for their employees, referring to their make-up, hygiene, and perfume, as most business's do, and what they can and cannot do in these respective fields. If an employee were to ignore these rules, they could be reprimanded or removed from the flight.
Likewise, clearly Southwest has rules for how customers can dress, apparently based on complaints- but since a customer is not an employee, it is treated differently.
And I am still confused by your argument- are you arguing this woman is entitled to fly on the plane, reguardless of Southwest's rules? | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 12:07:09 PM | WOW....lol that must have been embarressing for her lol
But I guesse with all the security and new rules they have going on since 9/11 this kind of thing can be expected. Interesting rule though I must say in this case lol.
Oh well there always other flights that might let her in......well.....lets hope so anyways.
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Posted: 9/9/2007 12:26:06 PM | | In seeing this: "I would be terrified to fly on a plane if a sexy woman was on board. What the hell was she thinking? Oh wait, maybe I am thinking of women on sailing ships bringing bad luck. These transportation sex codes are damned confusing." I have to say there are too many restrictions on too many airlines now. It's not like the flight was free. They let her board the plane, they should have let her take the flight. She was maybe showing that she had nothing concealed to avoid having to be strip searched? | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 1:37:03 PM |
Ebbert was eventually allowed back on the plane after offering to adjust her sweater but said she was humiliated and embarrassed.
"I felt like everybody was staring me. They had all heard him lecturing me," she told "Today" show host Matt Lauer
All kidding aside.....from that statement it sounds like she may have other problems like major insecurity and an inflated ego. Big turn off!!!!.
But they let her get back on the plane....so I don't understand why it was in the news then....I mean if they told her to get off and left without her, I could understand it being in the news, but she was led back on the plane so why did the media want to make such a big deal.? | |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 2:03:31 PM | i love scantily dressed women in and around wherever airports are getting like those christian places you know they want you all pilgrimised long skirts ugly clothing ,god bless hot women who wear short skirts ...by the way pilgrim and christian women are not attractive at all i think their might be jealousy by some boring chicks complaining that the women was hotter than them......long skirts are ugly and so are jeans on a women so i am with the chick who dresses slutty | |
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