| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 11/5/2007 11:21:46 PM | | I'm compelled to simply agree with an earlier post; poster said we'd figure how to manipulate space and simply move original objects. A time machine is possible now, but not practical. | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/5/2008 10:08:47 PM | The copy would be so good that you probably would never know the difference. If you've ever seen the end of the movie The Prestige, you know what I mean. The copy would be perfect in every way such that it might as well be the original. What is death anyway? There would be absolutely no way to demonstrate that the true essence, spirit, or soul of the original was some how missing from this new individual. Perhaps a powerful psychic could tell us, but that's the only way you're going to know, and that's assuming you believe that parapsychology has some merit to detect such things.
There was an Episode on the now canceled Star Trek: Enterprise TV show that addressed this issue. I forget the name of that episode, but I agree with the conclusion. I say teleport away :) I think that rematerializing the pattern at its new location will some how draw the true essence of the person to follow. I cannot prove it of course. Call it a hunch if you will. | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/6/2008 2:17:41 PM | I did not see a mention of a teleporter in which there happen to be a house fly in the transporter. I saw both movies that one in black and white. And the most recent was maybe ten years ago?
It will never happen! Might start off as something like a micro wave and transport all your liquids and chemicals and by products. And every one can see what you are really made of on the other end. | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/6/2008 3:23:00 PM | im not a fish writes:
If your teleported "copy" transports all configurations and energies into a new pile of biomass, my memories, feelings, thoughts will all be exactly the same. I'd have lost most of that matter soon anyway, as ... even most cells die and are replaced with some regularity - I just swapped out the basic matter all at once instead of waiting. If exchanging matter is "death" then I've died a few times over already, and I'm just getting started.
That's probably the smartest way to look at it. And the most unsettling, as you're forced to admit that all the memories you now have, most of them you didn't even generate, as every part of your body involved with the original memory has long been cycled back into the environment. And the guy you're boinking isn't the same one from a couple months ago, either. He just looks like him.  | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/6/2008 7:49:28 PM | | Yes I would. I think it is our memories that make us who we are, not our physical being. However, if I do have a soul, I like to think it would find my new body. | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/6/2008 7:54:09 PM |
I just swapped out the basic matter all at once instead of waiting. If exchanging matter is "death" then I've died a few times over already, and I'm just getting started.
This is not quite accurate. The very cells that make you YOU are NEVER replaced: neurons. Brain cells do not undergo mitosis or meiosis at all. The same brain cells that you were born with are in your skull right now. Yes, the exact same cells. Sure, at the elemental level, many things have been replaced (example: ions necessary for cellular excitation in your body now are certainly different from the ions your neuron had a year ago), but the cell itself within the brain is the same.
Dematerializing and transporting the energy to some other place or simly using information on the person's pattern to materialize a brain (with body of course) at a new location would certainly be significantly different than the extremely gradual elemental replacement of lost materials used to maintain cellular activity. The difference of course being that, the cells are constantly going through the cell cycle even while elements are being replaced in non-brain cells. The transportation device would disturb, albeit a temporary disturbance, the cell cycle of every cell in the entire body at the same time! I'm not saying that it would result in death (or that it wouldn't), but my arguement is that it IS much different. | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/6/2008 11:03:23 PM | I think the whole copy concept for teleportation will probably be outdated by time we actually develop the technology. There's many other ways to move from point A to point B that doesn't involve creating a copy or crossing the distance in between.
However the copy concept could work very different than a disconnected clone. With quantum entanglement you can create a copy that is linked with the original, though this may have odd effects on the mind being in two places at once. | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/7/2008 6:13:54 PM | Forgiveness if anyone has mentioned this but aren't we forgetting that E=MC2
We would break down the original matter into pure energy, transmit it then reconstitute at the other end....
We wouldn't have to make any copies this way. All that you are is zipped back and forth....Simple really 
BTW, I thought that when a file is copied on the hard drive new pointers were added to the original file......When the file is deleted the pointers are simply removed....Which is why it can still be recovered once deleted.... The file itself is still there until a defrag/format or overwrite. | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/7/2008 10:25:25 PM | With quantum entanglement you can create a copy that is linked with the original, though this may have odd effects on the mind being in two places at once
Quantum Entanglement doesn't create copies of anything. Rather, it's the effect of a condition known as the "paired nature of particles" (aka spooky action at a distance). | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/8/2008 10:12:34 AM | What are you saying? That when we die we are not teleported to another place?
Could you merge a copy with the original? Do a cut and paste. That way I can get my yard work done.
You are all a bunch of geeks, you do know that, right? | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/8/2008 8:20:51 PM | | If the "move" is on the same Hard Drive (same universe), then only the ADDRESS changes. The pointer to the file changes. The file doesn't actually move. So if we could travel without moving by folding space (like in DUNE), then ya. You're still the original. Another way would be to convert matter to energy and back again (Star Trek). Again, I would. But to scan me, transmit my copy and put it together at the other end, then destroy the original? Sure, I'd still do it. This was called "Balancing the equasion" in an Outer Limits episode. Ya I'd do it. | |
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| If Teleportation = Death, Would You Do It?
Posted: 7/9/2008 9:19:36 PM |
I might do timetravel if it = death... but only if I could be sure I could report my experiences before I died.
Why not come back a couple of minutes before you left & tell yourself not to go? | |
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