| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 9/23/2007 11:36:55 AM |
Because men are expected to be strong and not get all emotional after a breakup. A man that has been cheated on, lied to or used has had his heart (and ego) ripped to shreds. Women have always had the advantage of compassionate girlfriends that will laugh and cry with them for months and agree that the man was a louse. Your girlfriends will always assure you that you will find someone much better. Men do not get that from their buddies, there is nothing worse to a man then a wimpy whiney guy. "My GF broke my wittle heart, WAH!!!" Men don't have time for all of that. Their advise will always be to go out, score a few drunken conquests and move on with their lives. So they build up walls and become unwilling to commit themselves to the next woman. Fear is the most powerful emotion in the world. Doesn't describe me or any of the men I have known. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 9/23/2007 7:49:48 PM | | Iwas married for 34 yrs and 33 of those she cheated off and on , but stupid me I figured it would stop one day and it didnt, so i left, was the hurt done? Nope I later found myself in a relationship and "oh you are the sweetest, I love you so much" and then in just hrs she decided I wasnt right for her because I didnt dress the way she liked, I have been booted for some real stupid stuff, not catholic,dont play golf, wasnt a pro dancer, to fat ( I am 7' tall and 285 lbs) size to weight, and the best one I dont (all of a sudden) have time for a relationship and isnt fair to you(me) LoL and you wonder why we are afraid to Love again? when we do it turns out the same! and then you have a profile like you have , LOL wouldnt even consider you lol. and I am quite sure every man in here has had some real stupid excuses for being dumped! AND I am quite sure the ladies have also. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 9/23/2007 9:24:46 PM |
Posted By: SexyBumLover on 9/12/2007 10  35 AM Subject: Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? I met someone whose 41 and hes been married got a kid and is scared getting serious. He doesnt say why they split up but me an him are mega together. He bought me a ring and he says he loves me though. Whats his problem whys he not showing more interest if hes interested?
First part - put your hand on a stove and turn it on high. When you are tired of screaming take it off and put it back on again. Then ask yourself why you would ever want to subject yourself to pain that bad again and maybe you got your answer...
Men heal slow. We don't have 20 other offers to consider so our rebound takes a helluva lot longer than yours does.
Second part - he's got a kid to think about and doesn't have time for 'fun' and confusing his kid. He's taking it slow. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 9/23/2007 9:44:16 PM | Not all of us do. I have been hurt in one way or another so many times I have lost count. It always hurts when you lose a love you wanted to keep and sometimes it hurts even when you are the first to realize it won't work. But I accept that loss is the price of love and it is worth it however long the love lasts. I just jump right in if I find the right lady, and I have found a good one!
On the other hand, if anyone hangs back for very long, it is more likely that they are just not sure if they want you. You can either wait until they make up their mind / get over being afraid or move on. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 9/23/2007 10:08:28 PM | | Its been found in studies that men take longer to fall in love but they fall harder. And when you have that much emotion involved you don't want to go through the roller coaster again. Cause all you think is, "this is going to be good for a little while but I'm going to get my heart ripped out again." | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 9/23/2007 11:25:42 PM | He bought me a ring and he says he loves me though. Whats his problem whys he not showing more interest if hes interested?
when a man does this, does it not say on page 43, paragraph 7 in bold print.........."he's just not that into you"
I, er ...... yeah, this thread confuses me, my take is........... he chose you because you were a safe choice, he chose to buy you a ring, cause ultimately ......... he has no real idea what "love" is, and til he sorts it out, he'd just assume toss you a carrot to keep you nibbling his  | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 10/17/2007 6:30:45 PM | | In my case its because im actually afraid to get hurt like I did the first time around. Myself im 26 and divorced. I fell hard and it will take me a long time to go through the marriage game again. I almost feel like parts of me are missing. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 10/17/2007 6:47:16 PM |
The experience of having been loved and then hated by the same woman makes the whole idea of being loved a kind of fantasy. When hasn't the idea of being loved been a fantasy? Sounds like an excuse for cowardice to me. Fear is fear, the product of a weak mind. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 10/17/2007 9:23:20 PM |
Because men are expected to be strong and not get all emotional after a breakup. A man that has been cheated on, lied to or used has had his heart (and ego) ripped to shreds. Women have always had the advantage of compassionate girlfriends that will laugh and cry with them for months and agree that the man was a louse. Your girlfriends will always assure you that you will find someone much better. Men do not get that from their buddies, there is nothing worse to a man then a wimpy whiney guy. "My GF broke my wittle heart, WAH!!!" Men don't have time for all of that. Their advise will always be to go out, score a few drunken conquests and move on with their lives. So they build up walls and become unwilling to commit themselves to the next woman. Fear is the most powerful emotion in the world.
Great insight! More than men don't want to hear it, they're fearful that they might have to share the searing emotional pain that their buddy is experiencing and the prospect of having that shared experience is terrifying.
I wish I had the answer to the question. I know that to experience love in such a way as feel incapable of describing it and then experience the death of that love and the death of a relationship is not something that seems inviting. Like death, it seems, that it never hurts any less, it only hurts less often.
Sometimes even after a decade or more since that loss, one is haunted by what was and is tormented by the idea that it is unlikely that there will be an equivalent experience.
If someone can figure out how to help men and women get past this pain, they'll likely be very wealthy.
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 10/18/2007 5:24:44 AM | | They are wealthy but some people don't buy their books and learn from them what they need to know. Instead they carry on as usual in life, without benefit of wisdom, struggling on their own, because that is exactly what they love to do with their emotions. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 12/5/2007 1:19:54 PM |
Say if a mans been in a longterm relationship/marriage whatever and has kids right, well yer of course hes gona be hurt and all scared of getting into another situation with someone else yer. But if he met someone he really likes whats to stop him givin it a go?
Three reasons:
1) Men have feelings - women do not. 2) A divorce usually leaves a man with his property gone and next to no money, which is immediately a turn off for most women. The ones that'll go for a lack of funds want someone equally as young - the older ones are looking for a replacement breadwinner for the man they just left. 3) When you realise how little you mean to women, and how much of your interaction with them is manipulation and lies, you re-prioritize your life. To put yourself first. Now you just lost the other women that were left from #1 and #2 above. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 12/5/2007 4:18:38 PM | Wow... Bikerscum.. that's harsh.
1) Men have feelings - women do not.
I think you're generalizing a little bit here. Or being a little sarcastic. Or maybe you are ineffectively trying to say that men have feelings that women do not, meaning DIFFERENT feelings.
2) A divorce usually leaves a man with his property gone and next to no money, which is immediately a turn off for most women. The ones that'll go for a lack of funds want someone equally as young - the older ones are looking for a replacement breadwinner for the man they just left.
Sometimes the woman loses. I lost a lot more then my ex when we separated.
3) When you realise how little you mean to women, and how much of your interaction with them is manipulation and lies, you re-prioritize your life. To put yourself first. Now you just lost the other women that were left from #1 and #2 above.
Bitter much? Not all women are like that.
Generally speaking, ANYONE who's beein a marriage or LTR that has ended, with or without children, needs some time to heal. And yes, the majority of us are a little gun shy when it comes to getting back into a relationship. Dealing with a man now who's a little shell-shocked about the end of his marriage.
I know the OP isn't on here anymore, but seriously... she's what.. 24? The man she mentioned was 41. Personally I can't see what they would have in common considering the profile she had up. I'm closer to 41 than 24 and I don't think I would even consider someone that age for more then a short term distraction from life. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 12/6/2007 12:04:04 AM |
I think you're generalizing a little bit here. Or being a little sarcastic. Or maybe you are ineffectively trying to say that men have feelings that women do not, meaning DIFFERENT feelings.
No, I mean this: that women treat men like shoes - fun to shop for, fun to use, and ultimately disposable. The latest trend is divorce parties, in which women cackle and celebrate her getting rid of the guy but not his money, and throw the ring he gave up X months' salary for literally into the shitter as part and parcel of the party.
A man feels for other people. Ultimately, a woman only feels about and for herself, and has little understanding that there are other people on the planet and that they can matter.
Remember my anecdote about suicide? How the woman was AGHAST that men kill themselves? It's their fault for not being so macho, and how dare they kill themselves which makes them ineffective providers?
Sometimes the woman loses. I lost a lot more then my ex when we separated.
Almost never. Note "usually" and "almost". There are a couple of women paying alimony. The way they carry on (alimony is something WOMEN are supposed to get from MEN!!!!) you'd think they want the law written to be one sex gets money from the other. Oh right, they're already working on the law that way. Vide infra, VAWA.
Bitter much? Not all women are like that.
Yes they are. To various degrees. Even the least selfish woman thinks that way to some degree. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 12/6/2007 7:20:30 AM |
No, I mean this: that women treat men like shoes - fun to shop for, fun to use, and ultimately disposable. The latest trend is divorce parties, in which women cackle and celebrate her getting rid of the guy but not his money, and throw the ring he gave up X months' salary for literally into the shitter as part and parcel of the party.
A man feels for other people. Ultimately, a woman only feels about and for herself, and has little understanding that there are other people on the planet and that they can matter.
Remember my anecdote about suicide? How the woman was AGHAST that men kill themselves? It's their fault for not being so macho, and how dare they kill themselves which makes them ineffective providers?
Maybe the women you have met treat men like shoes. THIS woman (meaning ME!) does not. No.. wait. Maybe I do. But I have a serious shoe fetish and love and cherish all of my shoes. I would no more treat a man as if he were disposable then I would anything else in life. I treat men like I want to be treated. Shocker, I know.
I could totally turn your words around as far as men/women and feelings. I've met more men who only think about themselves... including, but not limited to my ex husband who put his career ahead of his family. I have always been the care-taker in all of my relationships. ALL OF THEM. I put my wants, needs, desires on the back burner in order to provide everything I felt was necessary to those around me. Selflessly giving more than I have ever gotten. Without complaint. Ever.
I don't recall an anecdote regarding suicide, I'm sorry. I have my own feelings regarding this issue that have nothing to do with this topic.
Almost never. Note "usually" and "almost". There are a couple of women paying alimony. The way they carry on (alimony is something WOMEN are supposed to get from MEN!!!!) you'd think they want the law written to be one sex gets money from the other. Oh right, they're already working on the law that way. Vide infra, VAWA.
I agree. Almost never. There are SOME women tho that do end up losing more than the man when it comes to divorce. The cost of what I lost.. roughly in the $30-40G range is a pitance compared to what he lost.. in the $2G range. And that's before the legal fees get added into the equation. Yes, he pays child support. And so he should considering based on his job I wasn't able to work and was at home with the kids for the duration of our married life. His job frequently required him to be away from home for extended periods of time, often at the drop of a hat (he'd go into work and be told he was leaving on a 2 pm flight that day for X location and Y number of days). Yes, he pays alimony. It's a set amount for a short period of time to help offset the inequality in our incomes. He makes 3 times what I do.
I do whole-heartedly agree that SOME women do take advantage of the system and milk it for all it's worth. Just because I am female does not mean I agree with, or support this. I know my ex had all these preconceived ideas that a buddy of his gave him based on the buddy's divorce and how the buddy's ex was not allowing him to see the kids, demanding a huge sum for child support, etc. I left with what I went into the marriage with, plus all the kids' things. Actually, I left a lot of stuff that was mine behind when I left. I push him to have contact with the kids, encourage the children to contact him anytime they want. I have full custody, he sees them.. let's see.. I think it will be a whopping 22 days this year. Was 24 days last year. So I have them roughly 95% of the year on my own with no help from him. I am getting the amount of support legally allowed based on the charts. Nothing more. Nothing less. I don't set the amount, the courts do.
Yes they are. To various degrees. Even the least selfish woman thinks that way to some degree.
No. I disagree. That's like saying all men are a$$holes and players and will only use women for sex. Not true. Not even close to the truth. Some men are and do. Some men aren't and don't. Those that do often spoil it for those that don't... a theme that is often repeated here on the forums.
Bottom line here is that while I disagree with what you are saying, those are your thoughts and opinions and feelings on the matter and you are entitled to them. I disagree with them. I know tho that no matter what I do or say I will not change them. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 12/6/2007 7:38:31 AM |
Maybe the women you have met treat men like shoes. THIS woman (meaning ME!) does not. No.. wait. Maybe I do. But I have a serious shoe fetish and love and cherish all of my shoes.
You've kept your shoes longer than your men. QED.
I could totally turn your words around as far as men/women and feelings. I've met more men who only think about themselves... including, but not limited to my ex husband who put his career ahead of his family.
Only because if he didn't, you'd whine all the time about not having enough money. There's a difference between the expectations of MEN at work (get stuff done) and women (socialise, yak, come in late, leave early)
I know my ex had all these preconceived ideas that a buddy of his gave him based on the buddy's divorce and how the buddy's ex was not allowing him to see the kids, demanding a huge sum for child support, etc. I left with what I went into the marriage with, plus all the kids' things.
Okay, so we should ignore the mass of empirical evidence as to how women behave because you personally are a saint?
We should say "wait a second! THE COURT SYSTEM DOESN'T SHAFT MEN because this lady RIGHT HERE left some photos behind. What were we thinking????"
Why did you try arguing your point with this little pity party about your circumstances? In other words, why did this suddenly turn into being about you?
No. I disagree. That's like saying all men are a$$holes and players and will only use women for sex. Not true.
There's a lot more truth to that than you'd like to think. | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 12/6/2007 10:09:25 AM | Imagine if you will, bulding a house of cards. Every card is has a planned destination and you meticously keep building every hour of every day for years. There's minor incidents in the construction, sometimes entire levels collapse, but the structure is safe and stable. One day someone kicks over your house and now yiu just have cards. How anxious would you be to start building again? | |
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| Why do men get scared to love again when theyve been hurt? Posted: 12/7/2007 8:39:23 PM | <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I was recently devistated by a divorce. To me, marriage is forever, and when the person you held every night for years, just walks away with a smile, after everything that we had,,,
<<<<<<<<<< Loves haveing someone, but at the same time, if she gets to close,, I break up with her. I will not put myself through that heartache ever again!  | |
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