| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/6/2007 8:43:01 AM | And although some might call it shallow, some of us might call it selective, practical, and proactive. To those that continue to insult other posters in here for their opinion, why don't you guys and gals pick or dream of the kind of partners you want, and let us pick or dream of the kind of partners we want. If we start thinking and talking like everyone else, then there won't be any more point to these forums. To each his/her own...
I think the discretion comes with your level of desperation, too. If you're desperate and would go out with the first guy that comes knocking on your door, then the type of job would not matter in that case. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/6/2007 9:06:51 AM |
I think the discretion comes with your level of desperation, too. If you're desperate and would go out with the first guy that comes knocking on your door, then the type of job would not matter in that case.
It has nothing to do with desperation. I just would have a hard time sending someone who brightens my life, shows me love, is a friend and clicks romantically, packing solely based on the fact that they don't meet a certain financial criteria or social image. To each their own tho. I definitely would consider someone who thinks otherwise as materialistic and shallow, and they'd probably think I'm naive. I never really got on well with elitists anyways, and probably wouldn't be too happy dating such a woman.
There are plenty of successful women who aren't so shallow, so don't be sad if we forget you in like 20 seconds. You go get your lawyer/doctor boyfriend who "understands" your needs and don't waste the rest of our time. k thnx bye. :p | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 8:39:36 AM | | Job or career? There is a big difference. I think in a lot of cases a career can tell quite a bit about a person. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 9:24:19 AM |
and may even be embarrssed to tell their friends or family members what your job classification is.
This is what I see as the key factor in a relationship. Any person, man or woman, sees a potential partner as an asset. Just like what car you drive, the person you are with reflects on you. The most important factor from what I have seen is that the other person makes you look good. People certainly don't want someone they are embarrassed to be with (someone who doesn't make 80k+ or someone who is fat), because that reflects on them, and really that's all a relationship is about. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 9:28:16 AM | "Any person, man or woman, sees a potential partner as an asset. Just like what car you drive, the person you are with reflects on you." Not any person and certainly not every. If you're only with someone because it ups your standing in the eyes of others, then good luck with any relationships you may have. I'd think as soon as someone found that out, they'd run so fast they'd leave their shoes behind!!
Things are assets......people aren't! If you like being categorized as a thing, that's your choice, most of us like being valued as individuals.  | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 9:34:17 AM | If most people like being valued as individuals (which I'd agree with), then obviously someone else's job shouldn't matter one whit as long as you aren't paying for them. Someone could be unemployed, but as long as they can meet their own needs, and they aren't breaking any laws in doing so, then it obviously shouldn't matter.
People (women) saying that a man's job matters because it reflects on who he is have a very narrow view of the world they live in. They're unwilling to consider alternatives, they only think they can accept one type of person, and they think this for so long that they come to think they somehow deserve to have such a person, and become unwilling to accept anything else.
I have no problem with someone who has high standards, as I have them myself. I do have a problem with those whose high standards are based on purely material things, and find them amazingly amusing when they attempt to come up with highly questionable (yet amusing) justifications for what's essentially the elevation of material possessions, and the ability to acquire them, in their lives. "He has to be able to go on vacations when I want", "I don't want to have to support him", "I want to be able to introduce him to others at social functions and not be embarrassed", or any other number of excuses which are easily deflatable by someone with half a brain and a sense of actual human worth. The one central word to all the excuses for why a guy's job "matters" I keep seeing is "I". Such people seem incapable of thinking of others, they think only of how someone else can benefit them if they're given the "privilege" of being their partner.
What a bunch of bull. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 9:44:38 AM | I was a bussboy for a few years. I paid for school, bills, etc, and saved more money per year than many tax accountants make.
Many tax accountants make less than 40k per year. Many Lawyers make less than 70k per year.
many servers/bussboys, make over 100k per year
who would have thought | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 10:31:18 AM | First off, WPG_Chick , I believe must be the most pretencious person besides the web cam porn hoes I have seen on here to date... its apalling.
I have made a CAREER of having JOBS...
automotive
marine
retail
wholesale
pharmaceutical
bio medical
etc. etc.
AND best yet.... NO DEGREE IMHO ... It's a piece of paper, thats all.
I seemed to turn out alright.
I am definitely not one to brag, nor do I show it off, but I have a 1999 S10 4wd and a Nissan Altima that I prefer to drive over my S class Mercedes... why? because it is my backbone of who I am, NOT what I could nor prefer to be.
Hell I would prefer to have an old series III Land Rover to tote my son around in, just having a hard time finding the right one... anyone know of any??
I have known way too many pretencious people, and it is sickening.
Stick your Gucci up your azz...
Selfish remarks from people are cluttering the site.
<<crawls back under bridge>
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 11:04:32 AM | (((People certainly don't want someone they are embarrassed to be with (someone who doesn't make 80k+ or someone who is fat), because that reflects on them, and really that's all a relationship is about.)))
If that is what you truly believe then that is hands down the saddest thing i have ever read from anyone on these forums. I have read a lot of messed up sad things on here too. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 11:36:00 AM | | To me it doesn't at all! As long as the guy is hard working and enjoys what he does, good for him! I provide for myself and my family just fine! Ever hear the term, "Love me for who I am, not what I do?" You fall in love with someone for the person they are and while yes, I prefer to date a man who has a job and some ambition in life, how much money he makes is irrelevant! | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 10/7/2007 1:26:20 PM | ^^^^^^^
The most sensible, intelligent thing I've heard yet from one of the most meaningfully attractive people who have participated in this thread.
Kudos to you! | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 6/30/2008 12:52:25 PM | A guys job matters greatly. A woman needs to respect the guy's job, however different kinds of women respect different kinds of jobs. Like a tech geek who is into politics MIGHT want a smart white collar guy and dislike a military guy. A blue collar girl might respect a low paying job in construction and go for him but not respect a computer programmer that makes high money.
It is all the woman's opinion. My cousin was telling me she picked up a man... a male stripper, he was telling her that everyone is interested in him until they find out he is a stripper. Well for my cousin, she respects that job as a sign of hotness and money. It is different for everyone. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 7/3/2008 5:52:46 PM | | I'm wondering about a man who does not have a job at the moment but is pretty much set financially. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 7/3/2008 6:20:13 PM | I wouldent sweat it bud - as long as you can stand on your own two feet, take pride in what you do, and (admittly for down the road) put something aside for a family - the ladies shouldent care.
EDIT: Lol, great point cooldude - all of a sudden the whole job theory goes out the window... :run: | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 7/3/2008 7:21:20 PM | | Let's face it, most women are shallow AND superficial and the job is important. Not just in terms of money but in terms of status/power/influence. Personality? Persmality. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 9/3/2008 11:32:04 AM | Silentman - Both of those examples you used were of people who did work minimum wage jobs, but were also doing something else to change their future career path. As I said in my earlier post, there is a big difference in my opinion of someone who works at 7-11 (I'm only using that as an example since that was the original question) while in school, or while learning something to start a better career versus someone who works there because they do not have the initiative or desire to learn more and do something else with their future.
Why does he have to learn more or do something else if they like working there? It seems you look down at people who do this jobs. Not everyone can have a high paying job. It is sad that some jobs that pay low or do not require education are associated with the person working it as not very valuable. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 9/3/2008 12:04:42 PM | | If I met a wonderful woman who worked at a 7-11, I wouldn't care. Women care, which is why men are better than women. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 9/3/2008 12:21:42 PM | I think someone's job/career matters quite a lot - not for financial/status reasons but to find someone who wants a compatible lifestyle.
If you're a laid back kinda guy/girl who wants your partner at home most of the time, and you're looking for someone to do lots of things with you and be by your side then you may think twice about someone who works long hours and is away from home travelling all the time. No matter how much he earned you'd still be by yourself most of the time.
If you work long hours and travel a lot it might not matter to you that your partner is away, or it might make a relationship totally unworkable because you can't get any time together.
These sorts of issues breed lots of resentment and problems if you're not both totally happy with them.. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 9/3/2008 3:28:16 PM | | I am teaching my daughter to stand on her own two feet, so she won't have to need another guys money. I am also teaching her to look for someone with ambition, so she don't end up with a mooch. If you thinkit is an issue than get a new job. I sell Harley-Davidsons. I took a pay cut to do it because I love to sell them. I also love movies, but you wont see me working at blockbuster. | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 9/3/2008 6:38:23 PM | Consider the following scenario.
Man gets job at CompUSA. Man is climbing the ladder for 3.5 years, obtains benefits. Gets apartment and takes out loan for first car. General manager and her boyfriend (assistant manager - you don't brag about taking them home to meet your mother unless something is going on) decide they are tired of man making general manager look impotent due to man's knowledge of computers (at a computer store - go figure) and fire man.
Man's roommate defaults on rent to support drug habit. Man wipes out savings to finish lease.
Man still has outstanding loan.
Man seeks filler job in desperation. Man is accepted at Wal-Mart. Man is forced to begin ladder climb all over again, at age 25 - $6.75/hr. Company works him full time hours at part time status and benefits level (basically none) for 3 years. Sum total of raises (all at the highest level available - 3 yearly increases and 3 position change increases) brings salary to $8.40/hr, at age 28. Man has been filling job applications for entire period of employment. Man finally accepted into government job, at lowest grade - $11.90/hr + full benefits. (Yeah, Wal-Mart saves YOU money, by depriving their employees of it.)
This isn't a rant, a cry for pity, or some sort of conspiracy theory. It's my recent employment history. And yes, I have documentation of the negative facets above.
This is just to spread the knowledge that even a good, honest person with hopes and ambitions can still have setbacks. Sometimes, any job is better than no job. Do I want better for myself? You betcha. But if someone chooses not to look past my uniform of the moment, they'll never know it.
This whole thread just boils down to the old question of "would a lady care if she makes more than the man?" The old "Who's the provider" shtick. If you're not providing for each other - emotionally or financially - do you truly have a relationship? | |
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| Does a guy's job really matter?
Posted: 9/3/2008 6:58:05 PM | I truthfully don't think it is about the "job" as much as about the "dream". The perenial dream is to raise yourself and those around you. Freedom from worry, assurity of funds for healthcare and a safe environment for kids - those aren't shallow goals.
Don't condemn people for having their dream - go find someone who agrees with your viewpoint and status. | |
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