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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/21/2008 7:23:08 PM | | ^^^ROFL! Well, if you *squeeze* on a dead-horse, you're likely to get a little more out of it. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/21/2008 7:27:48 PM |
Bring it on.
You don't even want to start with me.....
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/22/2008 3:44:05 AM |
Kyn sweetie, I want you to take a deep breath and count to ten.
Let's assume for a moment everything you say is correct and I'm nothing more than an attention seeker. If that is true, you have played into my little game more so than anyone else. YOU are my dancing monkey.
You need to ask yourself why I have such a strong effect on you.
BECAUSE my darling Scoundrel...YOU were the one to contact me personally via email (wont say how... or should I throw you to the dawgs on that one as well my cyber love*?*)
Try not to take a condescending tone to me  ...its not worthy of you, is surely beneath me...and is clearly evident in our correspondence regarding who is the dom in our BDSM relationship for our followers. We do have a following btw scoundrel...
I guess the only other point that I want to make is that more and more men will become "player" types based on where society is headed today. Women are far more concerned about being individualists and having *their* own children these days than ever before. So men have no choice but to respond, ya know? You'll have to accept it eventually
I dont have to accept anything beneath me or you.
Ya know Mr Kites...here's the strange thing about people who feel unworthy.
WHEN the push comes to shove...instead of "stepping up to bat" and being the man they know they are...and doing what is expected of them...they purposefully fail. They behave like idiots...they laugh and cajole...and humiliate themselves....
You KNOW why people do that?...so that they can blame it all (everything)....on anything else than what they should be blaming it on...themselves...for NOT behaving, for NOT turning their cheek on male stereotypical behavior...for arguing AGAINST being an evolved human being...and AGAINST being a fricken adult.
Men are not stupid...but you sure act that way in excusing yourself and berating others and attempting to manipulate situations or pull non-existent theories outta your asses.
You're both BETTER than that...and yet you STILL choose to purvey the male stereotypical bulls!t for the world to see.
Why do it and email privately? without the other knowing...whats the prize?
What are you proving to anyone?...except you are human...you are men...you are capable of all things women expect of you...that you know you are capable of and that you are?
You wanna fail infront of the world...yourselves...or infront of me?
You wanna be heard?...I HEARD you both...and you may win my empathy...but you dont win my sympathy...and I WONT enable or agree with you.
Nothing semantic about it...I simply think its pathetic. Girlfriend or not Mr Kites.
Be very very careful cos Im a f*cken smart cookie...Even if you like em.
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/22/2008 5:01:23 AM | They can be male or female.
The difference is the man chases lots of women for sex but the woman seeks different men for their money. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/22/2008 10:12:25 AM | I do believe it is a mans animal insitincts to want to be with different women. They are wired that way......But , But >>>>>>>We live in a civilized society , in an age when may diseases are prevalent........so, it's really a good idea to stick with one person at a time.......
Okay, so it's not fair to make men go against nature?.........Well, it's unfair to play with someone's emotions ........Play the field,.....run wild, mating with everyone fellas, it's your own life....... But don't string a woman along while you're at it.........If you are not satisfied with one woman, that's fine, but don't make another think she's the only one and waste her time. Making a false commitment to someone is dead wrong! | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/22/2008 11:12:37 PM | | Scoundrel Ive seen your type before. Guys who have watched Alfie and Hitch and The Pickup Artist. Honestly I can smell that crap from a mile away now. Be a decent human being. If you are a player and are being honest with these women about your lifestyle then you should know the answer to this question already. They either leave you out of disgust or say "Thats ok Im cool with it". An honest, open, CONFIDENT, nice guy beats the player any day of the week. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/23/2008 12:50:37 AM |
Bring it on.
OK, I'm bringing it on, but I'm taking one for the team, so at ease, soldier...
I think what everyone's forgetting here, is that there are just as many female ~Scoundrels~ out there as there are male. So, when you get the male version hooking up with the female version, what's the harm? If it's what they both want, and both know what each other want, who are they hurting?
It's no different then dating only one person at a time. It's a choice, and as long as everyone knows what everyone wants, what's the harm? How can one be a player if the other participant knows full well what type of relationship it is?
But, ~Scoundrel~, this is just my opinion...I still think you're arrogant and full of yourself.
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/23/2008 7:49:19 AM | I dont have to accept anything beneath me or you. ...no you don't. And nor do I.
I had a hard time understanding some of what you wrote ^up^ there. And I read it a few times.... and still i'm confused. ...i'll tell you what - I can see that your perspective of human behavior is greatly influenced by what you've experienced in your own life. Kyn, there's a lot of fallacy out there. People fall into patterns of belief and thought and are known to greatly defend it... to the point of acting out the execution of those that think differently. This has happened repeatedly through out human history.
It's very difficult to clean the slate. When we're born, all we have are the influences that have been brought to us through our parents genes - *everything* that is natural to us as a living, breathing human being. As we grow and age, society grooms us and convinces us to think in a certain way. What is acceptable today, can very well be completely unacceptable tomorrow. Think about all the crazy societies and cultures that we've had in our history(human history)... think of the craziness of some cults with their unbelievable beliefs. If there's anything that's consistant in human behavior, it's our evolutionary growth - the *physical* beings that we are, not what our minds think and believe.
I've never called myself a player, and I've never been told that I am either. But Man, I can't stand it when I hear that - "PLAYER" - it just nips at me. When I meet a woman, I sincerely want it to work, so I act the part. And she does too. There are no LIES, there is NO deception. I want *her* to be the ONE! There have been times when I've fallen head over heels and I've turned into "mr. nice guy" and then that actually wrecks it somehow. I don't know what it is(well, actually I do, but this post is getting too long already). So I've learned - act like a player and you'll have your choice of women. And so I DO. ...guess I've had to re-think *everything* when it comes to women and the *physical* beings that they are.
So to get this thread back on topic -
What makes a player? Women do!! Amen, sister! =p
[edit] Oh and btw, Merry Easter, you evil bunny! | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/23/2008 8:55:38 AM |
I can see that your perspective of human behavior is greatly influenced by what you've experienced in your own life.
You'd be absolutely correct...by being surrounded by and only allowing involvement in my life (and my childrens') with kind and decent men who are not of questionable character.
This would be why I dont have issues with ex'es nor feel its necessary to compromise my beliefs or accept less from people (men) who are perfectly able to do the same thing when it comes to their interactions with women.
It may seem Utopian...but nonetheless it works...and works extremely well.
So please dont confuse my passion for fanaticism.
Some of the rubbish I read on here and often see in life (pertaining to men because this is specific to our discussion)...not just offends me...but frankly...I think is disgracefully accepted, tolerated, advocated and even revered.
So to get this thread back on topic -
What makes a player? Women do!!
What makes a player? Immaturity, ignorance & stupidity.
We'll have to agree to disagree Mr Kites.
Incidentally...
Will you people please stop beating me?
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/23/2008 5:07:24 PM | What makes a player.
Well for starters he or she will always look for fresh meat.And will groom the most vunerable of folk.. Tell them what they want to hear gain their confidence.Be the perfect partner in always wining dining maybe flowers.Maybe meet family and or firends.In full a normal part of a loved ones life..
BUT at the same time doing this with could be 5 could be 20,In most case once he ahs got you so to say and your totally committed with out the ring.He/she will drop you like a hot brick leaving you devasted.. cutting off all contact completely.
Another site I belong to this happened to over 50 women in about 3 months the guy got caught out big time.I felt sorry for a lot of them some were heart broken.A few have been put off dating and dont trust.To think one guy or women could do so much damage.The whole reason apparently that made him that way in the first place.his wife left had re-married, and he went off the rails.. In a very clever decieving way.It was a case of every women deserved to be hurt.He had apparently had contact with most of the women in the site.Even sent me poetry and sweet nothings.. I just deleted as he wouldnt take no for answer. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 12:28:46 AM | blondnblue you do have a point However:::
[Well for starters he or she will always look for fresh meat.And will groom the most vunerable of folk.. Tell them what they want to hear gain their confidence. ]
Well he cant do that UNLESS she rejects every man who does Not play gmaes and is honest with her, right?? If a player winds up with her, its because thats the guy she wants. She picked him!!! Right?
[Be the perfect partner in always wining dining maybe flowers.Maybe meet family and or firends.In full a normal part of a loved ones life.]
Players don't do this....the guys who do this are termed "ncie guy" and always cast into ther "friends" category. tha player sare the guys who make FUn of those guys, and the women follow them right along
[BUT at the same time doing this with could be 5 could be 20,In most case once he ahs got you so to say and your totally committed with out the ring.He/she will drop you like a hot brick leaving you devasted.. cutting off all contact completely.]
Sounds like kharma!! This is the same thing she did to guys that really treated her well!!!
[ In a very clever decieving way.It was a case of every women deserved to be hurt.He had apparently had contact with most of the women in the site.Even sent me poetry and sweet nothings.. I just deleted as he wouldnt take no for answer]
Are these the same women that usually read/delete almost every OTHER guys email? Hmmm whatdya know? LOL | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 10:19:39 AM | What is the point to life?
Speaking from a strictly evolutionary perspective, the primary goal of all life is to survive. Evolution has armed us for this battle. Our most important weapons are our emotions. Fear, anger, etc. all guide us in choosing the best path for our survival.
The secondary goal of life is to replicate. And again evolution has seen fit to give us everything we need to do this job. Every emotion we have was evolved to make us better at these two things.
What about intelligence? Do we really need all these smarts to survive? No. insects have done quite well with out it. So, why are we intelligent?
To make us better at replication. That is the only reason anyone has come up with.
Whether the ladies here want to admit it or not, men have evolved to have multiple sexual partners. We know this because men (in general) are larger in physical size than women. In all mammals the bigger the male (compared to the female) the more sex partners he has. The elephant seal is a good example off the top of my head. Huge males have access to dozens of females year after year while smaller males have nothing. It’s only mammals of relatively equal size that pair bond for life.
According to the definition of player given by so many women here, I am not a player. I do not lie about my job, my income, my past or my lifestyle and never have. I do not manipulate women into having sex with me. I do not buy them flowers or drinks or pay for meals in expensive restaurants. Instead, I’m fun, playful and always having a good time.
I’m also not a slut. I don’t have one night stands. Every woman I’ve had sex with once, I’ve had sex with a number of times and I’ve turn down more women than I have sex with.
What I offer here is not an excuse. To offer an excuse is to ask for forgiveness. What I offer is an explanation as to why men are the way we are. I do not apologize for being good at the secondary goal of life anymore than I do for being good at the first one. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 11:37:12 AM | Definition: Sleeping with several women at the same time and always on the look-out for something different, sexier, more adventurous, more vulnerable.
It's ok for a guy to be a player. But he needs to be honest about it. Tell any potential dates that he likes to 'keep several on the go' and doesn't stick around for long if things get a bit 'heavy'. It should be up to the woman if she finds this attractive or not, she should decide whether she wants to see him ... if she has nothing better to do.
Unfortunately, to many women this sort of man creates a challenge which is hard to resist. But treating sex and love like fast-food is bound to give you indigestion ... it is rarely satisfactory either. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 11:43:40 AM | a player is a guy that thinks women are a game. chasing them, getting them to fall for you, and having sex with them with no intention of returning any feelings is a player. If a guy thinks its fun to see how many chicks he can sleep with in a week, or how many girls he can string along without them knowing about eachother.
Player :) | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 11:59:05 AM | Your comments about evolution are insulting. Unless you have a plethora of progeny running around I would put it to you that you are just tinkering around the edges.
Women soon get wise to 'Players' as fraudsters. But I accept that extremely talented men of the mind and body should probably have more than one wife ... provided they are capable of taking care of them and their offspring. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 12:14:50 PM | My comments about evolution are simply the facts as I've read them in books by the great thinkers in the field. It's like saying the sky is blue or cars have wheels. If you are insulted, it is your own issue.
When I say we have a desire to replacte, it's simply a nice way to say we want to have sex. We have no choice about wanting sex, but we do have a choice about wanting children. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 12:32:51 PM | I have read nowhere 'in books' where it says that the world is run by 'Players' and their desire to reproduce.
By the behaviour of a Player you are highlighting just one aspect of humanity, sex with a partner, you are distorting it, presenting it in a fraudulent way which fools the opposite sex. If that is the way humanity is heading - then god help us.
I think that sex is wonderful, but as a spiritual, heavenly place that I can achieve with my partner whom I either I love, or intend to love as a complete human being. Players distort that, they mimic those feelings of love ... and that is why it is usually heartbreaking for an unsuspecting partner. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 1:44:56 PM | Men could be a little more mature and responsible and accept that their "genes" may urge them to F*** like animals- BUT they also urge to fight- kill- lie- steal- etc. Those urges are much more repressed than the insatiable "need" to bag everything with a hole between its legs.
Furthermore--- WE ARE NOT ANIMALS>
Instinct is NO excuse to forego all responisbility and behave in such a manner that spreads disease- increases the abortion rate- and unwanted children- child abuse etc.
Maybe if men exhibited a little more self control instead of slovenly animal instict the world would be a better place. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 2:15:28 PM | I believe a player is someone that will do anything to get in someones pants. They are basically liars and pretend to be someone else.They are quite manipulative. Scoundrel if everything you say is true about yourself and you do not do anything that's stated above you are not a true player.I believe that you are using sex to fill in a void in your life and are using the excuse of evolution to back up your habits. Don't take this as an insult towards you because it's not. Just my opinion. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 2:50:25 PM | wow this thread is still going on , I didn't realize it till someone sent me an email about my comments .
I still say player I dunno creepy dude with a box of used panties yes thats ~Scoundrel~ according to his post from another thread . | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 5:46:55 PM | Hello Christi, I see you still have your head in those girls panties. What is it? Over 10 months now? C'mon girl, get a life!
I have read nowhere 'in books' where it says that the world is run by 'Players' and their desire to reproduce.
By the behaviour of a Player you are highlighting just one aspect of humanity, sex with a partner, you are distorting it, presenting it in a fraudulent way which fools the opposite sex. If that is the way humanity is heading - then god help us.
I think that sex is wonderful, but as a spiritual, heavenly place that I can achieve with my partner whom I either I love, or intend to love as a complete human being. Players distort that, they mimic those feelings of love ... and that is why it is usually heartbreaking for an unsuspecting partner.
Then allow me to recommend a few books for you to pursue in your free time. “The Selfish Gene” by Richard Dawkins, “The Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature” by Matt Ridley and “Sperm Wars: the Science of Sex” by Robin Baker. Within the pages of these books you will see what freak show we are.
What I highlight is one of a few mating strategies. It is the most successful one for men. Another one is lying to get sex. It’s all about finding, attracting and mating with the best genes partner(s) you can.
Men could be a little more mature and responsible and accept that their "genes" may urge them to F*** like animals- BUT they also urge to fight- kill- lie- steal- etc. Those urges are much more repressed than the insatiable "need" to bag everything with a hole between its legs.
Furthermore--- WE ARE NOT ANIMALS>
Instinct is NO excuse to forego all responisbility and behave in such a manner that spreads disease- increases the abortion rate- and unwanted children- child abuse etc.
Maybe if men exhibited a little more self control instead of slovenly animal instict the world would be a better place.
What could be more responsible than fulfilling to secondary reason for our life?
To deny our instincts and natures is to deny being human. | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 6:01:00 PM | 'We' (as a human race) are not a freak show - perhaps certain people are and I would hope that most normal people would want nothing to do with Players and the like as they add nothing of value to humanity.
I doubt very much whether the average Player takes into account his quarry's gene pool when making his conquest! He is one of life's opportunistic takers I am afraid.
'Lying to get sex' - meaning? Please explain from your personal experiences!!! | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 6:39:06 PM |
Hello Christi, I see you still have your head in those girls panties. What is it? Over 10 months now? C'mon girl, get a life!
Sue me for having a good enough memory for remembering what someone said , the thought of you handing a shoe box with various womens panties and things and saying hey pick whats yours out , tells alot about you , creepy weird shoebox guy ...
as far as a life .. uh I believe unless I am dead I have a life . | |
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| What makes a player?
Posted: 3/24/2008 6:51:48 PM |
'Lying to get sex' - meaning? Please explain from your personal experiences!!!
Many men lie to get sex. They lie about their job, their income, their status in the community. They say "I love only you" while seeing other women. As I’ve stated numerous times in this thread, I do not and never have lied to a woman in order to get sex from her. I tell the truth and they still want me. Perhaps this is why they want me. I tell them I’m no good for them and yet, they pursue me. The more arrogant I become, the more women chase me. I do not pretend to understand this. It doesn’t make any sense to me. But, it is a lot of fun!
I have no more time to debate the issue tonight. There’s a young lady that wants to make dinner for me and if it‘s good I may let her suck on my penis. If I do she will be grateful. Maybe I’ll be back in 6 or 7 hours.
Cheers | |
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