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Posted: 10/1/2007 4:48:03 PM |
Belive NAFTA was signed into law by Bill Clinton.
You'd be wrong, he expanded it, but it was initially signed in December 1992.
NAFTA was initially pursued by conservative governments in the United States and Canada supportive of free trade, led by Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and the Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari. The three countries signed NAFTA in December 1992, subject to ratification by the legislatures of the three countries. There was considerable opposition in all three countries, but in the United States it was able to secure passage after Bill Clinton made its passage a major legislative initiative in 1993. During his presidential campaign he had promised to review the agreement, which he considered inadequate. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement, but complemented it with the aforementioned NAAEC and NAALC. After intense political debate and the negotiation of these side agreements, the U.S. House passed NAFTA by 234-200 (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor, 156 Democrats, 43 Republicans, and 1 independent against).[4 | |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 4:55:36 PM |
"CEO's and other greedy **stards on the top get to retire with fat wallets, more money than any of us would ever see."
It's always class warfare. Blame the rich, soak the rich, tax the rich. THAT will make it all better in the "worker's paradise".
Talk is cheap. The salaries of the executives are approved by the board. If stockholders have a problem with the executive salaries, they should say so to the board. Otherwise, it is a private company, and they (the company) have the right to pay what they want to pay, and you have the right to not work there. I don't see anyone complaining about the billions the founders of places like Google and Yahoo made.
I have a sneaking suspicion that folks like you think that the government should step in, control and limit salaries, and basically tell private companies how to run their business. History has shown that it always works pretty well, right? Right? (/sarcasm) | |
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Posted: 10/2/2007 3:11:51 PM | Ma'am, you must be from and never outside of 8 mile. Eminem with all his money prefers Michigan, his home state, especially in his mansion.
Michigan is great especially this time of year. Lotto is no fun and a waste of a dollar. Get out to the Native Americans' casinos and enjoy yourself. Better yet, go regularly to the hundreds of scenic beach towns nearby. Detroit long before NAFTA has been a small industrial and with a large poor populated city. Yet it is the lifeblood of the surrounding suburbs and cities including, Windsor, Ont.
Just leave Detroit and live at nearby beautiful Grand Rapids. There's also Ann Arbor, Plymouth Township and Farmington. Take advantage of the coast and northern central Michigan. Autumn in Michigan is the perfect season for outdoor mini vacations. Or just leave the state all together and move to the many cities nearby since you are accustomed to the frigid and long winters. Others move to the Sunbelt States where the economies are booming and with mild winters. In just 12 hours you can be in Charlotte, NC, Virginia Beach, VA, Winston-Salem, NC, Columbia, SC, Myrtle Beach, SC, Atlanta, GA, Nashville, TN, Memphis, TN and a little further into Tallahassee, FL, Orlando, FL.
These are just several destinations. You can go west to Portland, OR and Southwest to Phoenix and Albuquerque. One of the best is Southern California, Arizona and Nevada. Salt Lake City, UT and Denver, CO are also booming. If you do not want to leave Michigan, do something about the many tax increases that Michigan is known for and become active in changing your local leaders. Start with your Mayor and State Legislature. In doing so you will become informed and better educated and maybe just maybe, evolve into placing at least one well educated and informed thread. Or you can invest in the poor and ugly areas of Detroit and open up a Liquor Store thereby making money off the poor.
The pretty areas of Detroit, as in some foreign cities have a large police presence. With thousands of petty city ordinances resulting in lack of community. Done for investments so big companies to operate and the local government's consent in allowing it to exploit their citizens with lower wages and long hours. GM and Chrysler does that in Toronto.
Here are some other places to live if you are "into" the Top Places to live. Everything any family could want, economic opportunity, good schools, safe streets, things to do and a sense of community.
See the top 10 Great American Towns , including homes for sale and million-dollar homes. There's also Top Ten Best Big Cities, but you need to get up and look those up. I've done enough for you. Do something to improve your state and stop whinny and asking what Michigan can do for you.
1. Middleton, WI
2. Hanover, NH
3. Louisville, CO
4. Lake Mary, FL
5. Claremont, CA
6. Papillion, NE
7. Milton, MA
8. Chaska, MN
9. Nether Providence, PA
10. Suwanee, GA | |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 11:39:36 AM | | That's a wonderful dissertation on travel destinations and you should look into writing for Rand McNally! I can't argue with the beauty of the state of Michigan. However, the economic statistics are something else. You need some information, or better yet, come for a visit sometime. I don't know why you are assuming and focusing on Detroit, but Detroit is not a state. Look into cost of living and forclosure rates in Bloomfield Hills, Royal Oak, Southfield, Ann Arbor, FLINT, Saginaw, Holland, Battle Creek, Benton Harbor, etc. I'm from nowhere near Detroit. Do you think that everyone from Michigan is from Detroit? Common mistake. Where are you at again....New Mexico? Arizona? Hmmmmm. We still have a couple years to go before election. You're welcome to come and jump into the race and preach to the people of Michigan how great the economy of our state is, but I don't recommend telling them all that they are uninformed and uneducated. Good luck with that. | |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 2:24:19 PM | | Op, you sound like you're from Detroit in the way you described Michigan. The word dissertation does not exist. You're the one that mentioned Interstate 75 not others. An Autobon, lol....What of the other interstates in Michigan? California has the highest foreclosures not Michigan. Other states have higher foreclosures than Michigan. It has not affected the average person and individual states, only the banks and mortgage investors. Heck, Michigan just approved another tax hike a few days ago. That tells that Michigan residents can afford new and higher taxes. It sure sounds like you are the only one uneducated and not the residents of Michigan. And before you accuse me of not being in Michigan as you do to others, I visit Michigan often and find it to be doing well economically, it's you not the state that is going through hardship. Get a career or at least your high school diploma. That way you can find a job and not trash Michigan anymore. Your posts, they are hilarious though. | |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 3:11:59 PM | Not to bash Michigan, about which I know nothing but dissertation is certainly a word.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dissertation | |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 5:21:25 PM | Post 28....
I have a sneaking suspicion that folks like you think that the government should step in, control and limit salaries, and basically tell private companies how to run their business. History has shown that it always works pretty well, right? Right?
Those folks are scary and some get elected. Al Gore on many occasions during his 2000 campaign suggested government role in business.
It's apparent post 31 is to have the op scrambling for a dictionary. Although I wouldn't refer to original post 1 in the ranks of a treatise but a babbling discourse. May I suggest a bottle of Jack Daniels for her woes. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 8:34:10 PM | Please continue to call your State Representative and State Senator urging them to say no to any tax increase and yes to reform! Reform First!
Just a few hours ago, the Detroit News along with several other newspapers were just bombarded with the new reports of the highest foreclosures rates in the country…and yes…Michigan is on the top. Read on…
Foreclosure filings rose 9 percent from June to July and surged 93 percent over the same period last year, with Nevada, Georgia and Michigan accounting for the highest foreclosure rates nationwide, a research firm said Tuesday.
The filings include default notices, auction sale notices and bank repossessions. The figures are the latest measure of the ailing housing market, which has seen defaults and foreclosures soar as financially strapped borrowers have failed to make payments or find buyers.
In all, 179,599 foreclosure filings were reported during July, up from 92,845 in the year-ago month, according to Irvine-based RealtyTrac Inc.
My degree is from THE University of Michigan!
And the tax hike was not on a ballot.......it's not the taxpayers that voted for it! | |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 8:58:47 PM | Re: #31
I'm just curious if the men find it attractive that you don't have facts and just make up things in lieu of it, and then just say things to be mean. Do they take it well when you tell them to go get a high school diploma? I'm sure you're a very charming person in your own way. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 10:31:30 PM | Michigan is a great place to vist I find .
While I prefer wilderness to big cities, Detroit has always been one of my favourite places . Food in Greek Town is awesome, Smithfield Village, the zoo there is one of the best in the world I think.
While I havnt been to the new ball park yet, I loved old Tiger Stadium and have many pleasant memories of it as a boy going there with my Grand Dad . The Detroit auto show is great, beats the heck out of Torontos. Right across form the tunnel, you can park in Windsor and take the bus across .
For any Canuck sport fan, it is a great place to see games. just take the bus across the tunnell and you are right there for Joe Louis Arena, ball park is near the bridge etc. easy to drive to .
Detroit has come a long way since I was raised on Riverside Drive across from it in Windsor in the sixties. It is a city that has survived many ups and downs over the years, and will this up heaval in the auto industry it finds itself in today. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 10:54:00 PM |
(I guess we could use I-75 like the autobon)
I've been to Michigan several times... I-69 from a mile south of the IN/MI line to about 3 or 4 miles north of the line is all balls to the wall! | |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 4:53:05 AM | msg 31
That's kinda funny, lol....since you visit here often you find us to be doing well economically? What do you base that on, the fact that many cities keep their downtown shopping district nice?
Michigan has the highest unemployment rate in the nation at 7.4%, and that is not counting the unemployed whose benefits have run out. In the past seven years Michigan has lost almost 350,000 jobs.
We are 6th in the nation in foreclosure rates, averaging 1 per 288 households.
Heck, Michigan just approved another tax hike a few days ago. That tells that Michigan residents can afford new and higher taxes.
THAT made me laugh out loud. What kind of reasoning is that? Do you think we voted on that and collectively decided we'd enjoy paying more income taxes? The taxpayers had nothing to do with that, and just because the lawmakers decided we can afford it doesn't mean we can.
The median household income is about 48,000 a year. That's per household, not per person. Try supporting the average family of four on that.
Now I appreciate you trying to defend my state, but look at the facts. We are not doing well. Our own Governor told us last week that we are facing a 1.7 billion dollar deficit. That does not indicate economic prosperity. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:14:37 AM | The problem with manufacturing wages is the astronomical cost of health insurance and prescription drug costs. Plants in the US can't even compete with Canada where every employee and every retiree is covered by their provincial health care plans and prescription costs are regulated by the federal government. Big or small, all manufacturers are on the same footing. And its that kind of level playing field that start up industries need if they're going to keep their best employees and larger players are to remain competitive. You don't need to work for a Fortune 500 company and spend all your working day updating your resume to have access to these things, they are there for everyone. And that is good for everyone. Not just the workers, but their employers who benefit from a healthy and efficient workforce, in a pleasant country that is not being dragged down by greed, corruption and envy.
And we do the same with energy prices. Most provinces own and manage their electric utilities. In Ontario and Quebec where manufacturing is paramount, energy-intensive metal industries that provide good jobs and invest in our economy get preferential pricing on power.
We could have done like the United States and give preferential treatment to oil companies and shady Enron executives. But that would be stupid. Just look at the USA. You guys are stupid. You let the oil mafia turn your country to shit.
And Canada isn't alone in this. Just about every industrial country has an energy policy. You can't build cars without coal and steel. Even the European Union started out as a coal and steel trading pact, to help revive post-war Europe's industry and iron out all the past conflicts over resources.
If you don't get these fundamentals sorted out, manufacturers compete for these inputs and drive their costs out of proprotion to the goods they are producing. There is nothing wrong with American cars. Where there is a problem is when a $25,000 truck costs $50,000 because that's what it costs to cover Ford's health care obligations. Paying sticker price for prescription medication that is sold 80% off in Canada. Or when car parts are manufactured in developing countries and have to be transported over thousands of miles, because there are no limits on how much coal you burn in Africa or Latin America. In the USA, with more nuclear weapons than the rest of the world combined, energy prices are out of control, and power plants are burning natural gas in an effort to keep off coal.
I can't fault the UAW for negotiating a living wage for their working members. That has been the fundamental social compact of America since Henry Ford paid his workers $5 a day... enough to buy the cars they were manufacturing. That is how America became a superpower. That great expansion of the Middle Class as workers became consumers and joined the middle class.
The reason those wages have gone out of control, is there are so many private interests with their hand in the pie. Health insurance, energy prices, prescription drug costs. And plain old greed. It is not uncommon to pay $3000/year for car insurance in America. Or $300/month just to light your home. And top it off with $10,000/year in property taxes to fund everything from schools to hospitals, things the federal government can't afford to do with all their money going to tax cuts for the rich and out of control defence spending.
Until America finds the courage to step in and take on these special interests, their greed will continue to act as a brake on the American economy. And the more your economy suffers and falls behind, the more you will have to rely on force to bend the rules your way. Stealing money and oil from other countries to keep your factories running and your stock market afloat. The next depression isn't long away. Detroit won't be the only city with riots when tens of millions are unemployed and get thrown out of their homes by the banks like their grandparents were. Those people saw the lights, and demanded a progressive, sustainable economic policy that would give them job security and a decent standard of living. And it was those policies that made America rich. Allowed Americans to buy American, to consume American, and become the richest nation in history.
But in the 80's and 90's, globalists and neo-conservatives turned that philosophy on its head. Instead of pushing for full employment and pushing up wages as a means to increasing consumption and economic expansion, the philosophy became one of pushing down production costs. The American market no longer mattered in the drive to take over foreign markets, and workers had to work for less or lose their jobs so American corporations could globalize.
Globalization is fine and well, but you can't scapegoat unions for not wanting to work for the same wages as a Chinaman in a rice paddy. If service jobs are going to be the future, then they need to offer better wages. And the best way to do that is begin enforcing the labour laws, start demanding real accountability on the issue of illegal immigration, and better schools. So kids learn how to read and think for themselves and learn to stand up for themselves and not believe everything they are told. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 1:14:54 PM | 7 something percent unemployment is low considering the auto industry down sizing in Michigan. I've been there twice. Once when I was 12 and in 2005. We took a detour into Detroit. I enjoyed the city and a couple of lake beaches and towns north and the Day of Discovery set in Grand Rapids. I liked being in a peninsular for a while...like Florida. Next time I go there I will take that tunnel. I like going through tunnels and bridges. This tunnel will lead to Ontario so that will be exciting. You can always do something about high taxes. Vote for people who will decrease taxes not increase them. I'm originally from New York and people there kept voting in politicians that increase taxes. Since my vote didn't count....I left. Ahhh...the freedom to move and not be stuck in a place I dislike.
Strange...people refer to the governor of their state by name. Are some of you really from Michigan or actually next door and angry that you got a speeding ticket in Michigan?
There's no autobon in this country....no speeding! | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 7:33:48 AM | It's always class warfare. Blame the rich, soak the rich, tax the rich. THAT will make it all better in the "worker's paradise"
Why the hell not? Why does the lowerclass have to suffer huh? What. because someone happens to have lots of money, they have a right to tax cuts etc? Tax the people that can take the hits, not those that can barely get by.
Talk is cheap. The salaries of the executives are approved by the board. If stockholders have a problem with the executive salaries, they should say so to the board. Otherwise, it is a private company, and they (the company) have the right to pay what they want to pay, and you have the right to not work there.
Talk is apparently expensive, coz those people at GM haven't really turned it around, they still lose money, yet pay millions to their exectutives. I didn't know losing money was rewarded with getting paid millions, especially in a company that continues to lose money. Here's a thought, use that money for other things instead of paying these idiots the big bucks, rather than passing the buck and blaming it on the union workers.
I don't see anyone complaining about the billions the founders of places like Google and Yahoo made
I don't care, ,unless they are paying their workers minimum wage, then I have a problem with that, just like i have a problem with any big company paying meager wages.
I have a sneaking suspicion that folks like you think that the government should step in, control and limit salaries, and basically tell private companies how to run their business. History has shown that it always works pretty well, right? Right? (/sarcasm)
I dont think the government should step in, so your sneaking suspicions are wrong. What i want to see is people stop bashing the unions for every problem that companies face, when perhaps the companies should look at how they pay their own people in management etc. I don't see what is so wrong about people organizing to demand decent and fair wages, wages that many people still can't get by with. GM and the likes don't make cars that people want to buy, and or they can't afford to buy them so they buy foreign. This is why they are losing money, not because of the union wages and benefits. If they actually listened to what people want to buy, maybe they'll turn around, until then, they will still lose money. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 1:40:34 PM | | I've always wondered why a company like GM, or a company like mine, needs 10 vice presidents....when our entire country gets by with one, and probably doesnt need him. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2007 3:47:47 PM | | Are you kidding me? You can keep Detroit right where it is !! In the states ! what a crime bucket that city is. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 5:44:13 PM | | Chatterbox you failed to write down of the 395,000 new jobs in the health care industry and 355,000 in the food service industry in Michigan despite the 300,000 jobs lost in the auto industry. Over 750,000 new jobs. Making it possible to increase taxes. If you're going to be Michigan's representative and spokes person at least get all the facts in. It explains the reason others are contradicting you and the op. Attacking their informative posts only reveals sour grapes on your part. Maybe you can advice yourself, friends, lovers and relatives to give up hope in returning to work at GM and find work in another area. Those unemployment checks do run out. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 5:53:12 PM |
Chatterbox you failed to write down of the 395,000 new jobs in the health care industry and 355,000 in the food service industry in Michigan despite the 300,000 jobs lost in the auto industry. Over 750,000 new jobs. Making it possible to increase taxes. If you're going to be Michigan's representative and spokes person at least get all the facts in. It explains the reason others are contradicting you and the op. Attacking their informative posts only reveals sour grapes on your part. Maybe you can advice yourself, friends, lovers and relatives to give up hope in returning to work at GM and find work in another area. Those unemployment checks do run out.
Michigan unemployed rate is about 7.5 % and higher than Ontario across the border.
A new toyoto plant is opening in 2008 in woodstock Ontario
A expansion of the Chrysler plant in Windsor is completed.
Ontario fear now is inflation caused by too rapid grown in the economy.
In my town of 10,000 is a retail complex of 1.5 million feet is being built and help wanted signs are located in some of the stores in town.
Hamilton is seeing large grown in the health care field and is center of excellence in Ontario
another large retail complex including a home depot is built in Oakville which is about 20 miles from me.
Steelco was purchased by US steel recently and the other large steel manufacturers in Canada have been purchased by forge in companies.
Alberta is in hyper-grown due to crude oil exports to the USA
Most of Canada is doing well too and there is no SUB-PRIME crisis in Canada | |
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Posted: 10/7/2007 11:01:44 PM | To the person who blamed Ross Perot for NAFTA: Brush up on your history dearie, Perot was the only person who warned us what NAFTA would do. Boy, was he right. Can we still elect him President?
To you west side of the state people and others who are making cracks about Detroit: If you had bothered to come here over the last couple of years, you would have seen that Detroit is a very different city than the one that got a bad reputation 25 years ago. In the 80s the only ones walking around downtown Detroit were either idiots or muggers. Now there is so much happening in Detroit that it is difficult to find parking on a Saturday Night. If Detroit was so undesirable I wonder why several downtown hotels are being built? You west siders can keep taking your money to Chicago, we don't need you. | |
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Posted: 10/8/2007 8:55:34 AM |
Chatterbox you failed to write down of the 395,000 new jobs in the health care industry and 355,000 in the food service industry in Michigan despite the 300,000 jobs lost in the auto industry.
I failed to find those statistics even after an extensive Google search. Perhaps you could provide a link?
The best I could come up with was that back in 2004 the health care industry was projected to have the largest growth, providing 100,000 professional and technical health care jobs in Michigan over the next decade.
http://www.mi.gov/som/0,1607,7-192-29941_30586-105090--,00.html
I also found statistics on combined employment in both education and health services from 1997-2007. In that time there has been about a 10o,000 person increase in employees, split between both sectors.
That is 100,000 new jobs in both education and health services over the past ten years.
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost
While I could not find any statisitics supporting your claim of 750,000 new jobs in Michigan, what I did find was that according to the Michigan Dept of Labor and Economic Growth, unemployment rates are at 7.4%.
http://www.milmi.org/
That nine of Michigan's cities rank in the bottom 20 of the 200 best performing cities.
http://bestcities.milkeninstitute.org/bc200_2007.html
That,
Michigan Economy Among Nation's Worst
October 5, 2007 · Whether it's measured by job creation, home foreclosures or people on food stamps, Michigan's economy is one of the worst in the United States.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15046402
Maybe you can advice yourself, friends, lovers and relatives to give up hope in returning to work at GM and find work in another area. Those unemployment checks do run out.
That was a pretty nasty comment. Not that it matters, but I am not associated with the Big Three as I live in Northern Michigan and I am gainfully, if not lucratively employed. But quite the slap in the face of anyone here in Michigan who finds themselves unemployed through no fault of their own. But I suppose you are right. Those who are receiving top unemployment benefits should really not accept those while searching for a job with a comparable wage, but should immediately take one of those 350,000 positions in the food service industry making 2.52 to 7.15 per hour.
Attacking their informative posts only reveals sour grapes on your part.
I fail to see where I attacked anyone. I simply said I found it amusing to see you out of staters telling us natives what we can and can't afford and insisting that our state is just fine economically when our own state government statistics counter your beliefs.
If you're going to be Michigan's representative and spokes person at least get all the facts in.
Yes, why don't you try that?
From August 2006 to August 2007, total employment in Michigan declined by 96,000 or 2.0 percent.
http://www.michigan.gov/cis/0,1607,7-154--176287--,00.html
And please notice the web link. Those are the latest statistics from Michigan's own website. Even Jennifer Granholm has not had the audacity to claim the creation of 750,000 new jobs. | |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 10:19:59 AM | | If Michigan was open for business, it would have received the drop in the bucket business stimulus that went to Ontario. It probably would not have made a difference statewide but it would have locally in Detroit or Flint. What is making a difference in Michigan is the drop of the dollar. At least 300,000 factory jobs have disappeared in Canada as the loonie climbed from its 62-cent US low in 2002. And it is happening again. A higher loonie has devastated many manufacturing companies that export to the U.S., as their products became much more expensive for American buyers. Canadian lumber companies have also been hurt by America's lower dollar. People from there are coming to the U.S., and buying cars and just driving them back. The lower dollar has created struggles for Alberta businesses that send their goods south of the border. Now today, every single advantage they had is lost. On top of that, they have the difficulty of the labor situation in Alberta. Now they have got a par dollar, and now they have got higher commodity prices. It is a particularly trying time and whether it's doomsday or not, they have casualties in the manufacturing sector just as Michigan. The province's exports of oil, gas and agricultural products now cost more. At a business conference in Banff, Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach said every cent the loonie dollar gains costs the provincial treasury more than $100 million in revenues a year. The sinking U.S. dollar is primarily responsible for the Canadian dollar soaring to parity, which has already increased sales in Michigan and the rest of the border states. | |
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Posted: 10/9/2007 11:53:45 AM | I have lived in MI my entire life, am very gainfully employed and do 90% of my travelling in my home state. I can not for the life of me understand how someone who visited here for a weekend, probably 5 years ago, declare that our state economy is well and good!!!
I work as a Journeyman Machinist in a very small shop in a very small town in SW Michigan. I have worked in this field for almost 25 years and have never been laid off or unemployed. I make a very comfortable living, but probably only half of the wages I would working for one of the Big 3 Auto makers in the Detroit area.
If one wants to see the condition of Michigans economy, just take a drive though Benton Harbor instead of visiting your normal tourist locations. What you will see is a once proud city that has it's businesses boarded up and buildings in the downtown area falling into disrepair.
In SW Michigan there was quite a few small and prosperous machine, tool and die and Mold shops that did work for the Auto Industry. In a 3 county area, which are primarily farming communities, there were over 60 of these Auto related machine shops that closed their doors due to Michigans failing economy and the floundering Auto Industry........and this was far from the shadows of Detroit.
As long as Michigan continues to be married to the Auto industry, this states economy will rise and fall as the Auto industry does. | |
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