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 NotSoWorthyPlayboy

Joined: 8/24/2007
Msg: 26
What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 10/2/2007 7:25:34 PM
I happen to being in a field where i have LEARNED some the technique's "Psychics" and the like use.

Not to discredit anyone here, but much of it is indeed vague, general, blanketing BS that anybody can find truth in.

The basis falls down to this: Cold Reading

Cold reading is a technique of telling things, more and more specific to a person by their VERY subtle non conscious reactions to things. Our body language is over 90% of the information we give to people about our intent, security, and true feelings. These people have learned to pick up on that, and HONE IN on specific things, started from very general to very specific.

Once again, by starting with "sometimes things are not clear" or "I only see/feel a small fraction" etc, in case they guess wrong. Then it's just reading you like a book about everything they say.

Hope this helps!

Yours truly,

The not so Worthy Playboy
 jas_vive

Joined: 9/5/2007
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Posted: 10/2/2007 8:02:44 PM
Wow!!We all believe in something or another. I for one will believe in things based on fear. As long as we have fears we will have some form of believe. I
There are those who question those who believe in "GOD" the same way you question those who have Phsycic readings. Both are speculative and has yet to be proven really does exist.
 ecaepydal

Joined: 4/24/2007
Msg: 28
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Posted: 10/2/2007 8:13:35 PM
Well, let me tell you a little story...

Awhile back, on a lark I let one of my girlfriends drag me along with her to visit a psychic. At the time, I was engaged to my American (gorgeous, super sexy) boyfriend, and while the visit was pleasant enough, the psychic told me things (that I really couldn't relate to) which pretty much went in one ear and out the other...

Fast forward to ten (or so) years later: As a divorced lady, one day all the things she told me came flooding back...That I would marry a foreigner (no way, I thought, thinking of all the sexist mfs there are in other cultures), that this fellow would have two kids (again, absolutely NO WAY, because at that time I'd never even considered dating anyone with kids), and that his name would have an M in it somewhere (well, certainly that was ridiculous, my fiancee's name had no such consonant).

As it turns out my former husband is British, has two kids, and you guessed it, an M name! When all this occurred to me I was flabbergasted!

And to tell the truth, I've experienced the phenomena myself, who hasn't? There's so much more to knowledge, beings, matter and time than our little brains are currently to (rationalize and therefore) process.

Sure, some of those folks are charlatans, but not all of them...
 curlygrl

Joined: 11/8/2006
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Posted: 10/2/2007 8:26:36 PM
^^^ I had the same experience.

I like you got dragged to a local man who read tarot cards out of
his house. He did not charge so I brought him food.

He told me I would meet a man surrounded by blue who had two
children, one son first and then a daughter- he also told me his name.
At the time, I was dating someone who had the name "BLUE" in
his business name so I thought it was him. I thought one out of
three predictions is not bad.
We shortly broke up but I always thought - wow that psychic told me
it was him. But I forgot one thing- the man was very very specific
with me . He told me the name the blue and the children will all come
together. He told me the name and the "blue" were very important.
I just sat there thinking - what the hell is that suppose to mean.
I knew no one at the time with that name or blue except the guy I was
dating at the time with "blue" in his business name.

so fast forward 13 years - I meet the man with the name, surrounded by blue
with the son and then the daughter. Was I freaked out, you bet your ass
I was. I did not remember the reading until he told me his name. I even
asked him if that was really his name.
So do I believe - well after 13 years and it finally appearing to me, yeah
on some level I think they can "see" something, maybe not 100% accurate
but yeah I believe now.

curlygrl~
 ecaepydal

Joined: 4/24/2007
Msg: 30
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Posted: 10/2/2007 8:46:28 PM
^^^^
Yup! That's what I'm trying to say. Cool story, curlygrl, and that's a nice new photo.
 Tesserae

Joined: 10/23/2006
Msg: 31
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Posted: 10/2/2007 8:57:31 PM
I agree with Picker... for entertainment purposes only! It's amazing how wrong they can be, and you can "lead" them with body language and other clues. Generally answers to direct questions are vague at best, and if totally wrong then they can claim later that perhaps they read the (cards, tea leaves, vibrations, spirits) incorrectly the first time.

However, you should know that "placebo" effect is known to occur in a significant percentage of people in various types of therapies including medical. It is quite possible that if that gal from work receives some benefit and "believes" then that is all she needs. She's not hurting anyone, and ultimately it is her nickel.
 DaveB951

Joined: 9/12/2007
Msg: 32
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Posted: 10/2/2007 9:28:48 PM
Which was my original point............ they (psychics) can ( as some here claim) can tell someone ( or any yahoo walking in off the street) about their future husband many years in advance but something as significant as 9/11 or other past/future atrocities that affect/affected mankind in general and you don`t hear a peep.....
Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............



that this fellow would have two kids (again, absolutely NO WAY, because at that time I'd never even considered dating anyone with kids), and that his name would have an M in it somewhere


Globally speaking.... what percentage of married/divorced couples have two children ?

Globally speaking...... what percentage of male names have the letter M "somewhere" in the name ?

C`mon........do the math
 howbigisyourlove

Joined: 9/1/2007
Msg: 33
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Posted: 10/2/2007 9:56:18 PM
Having the ability to see the future as in miniscule glimpses not like deja vu but real time sequences in your mind is frightening, not sure if I would call it psychic readings but I have had these experiences and have not only scared myself with this knowledge but frightened other people.
My great grandmother who was born in Belfast was considered a witch as was her mother , at nine she went to work in bare feet for the town doctor to help feed her family as her mother my great great grandmother died giving birth. Unfortunately her blood was O neg and she and her new baby died shortly after the birth. My grandmother was made to fetch water during the birth from the town well when she turned around with the bucket she saw her mother dressed in white floating towards her with a baby in her arms, my grandmother fainted and they had to carry her into the house. When she awoke her father had to tell her that her mother had died and the next time she saw her mother she lay dressed in white in a coffin holding the infant in her arms. My grandmother always had the ability to foresee events of a catastrophic nature before they happened. During the second world war she was washing dishes and dropped a plate she almost fainted and told my grandfather that her best friends son had just died in Germany. Her friend was never told this news by her, but got the telegram when a soldier arrived the day after to tell her that her son died at the same time my grandmother fell. There are other incidents but these were the most significant. My mother has the ability to read people and their troubles without even knowing them by their facial expressions and their mannerisms. Her ability to read glimpses into the future are not as strong as my grandmothers , I however was cursed with both.
I do not believe that you can read into anyones energy regarding their future unless you have a long term connection that your energies have been inexplicably linked in past or future , maybe this is what chemistry is ? I do believe that it is really easy to read someones brain as to right then and where they came from if you are attuned to all the energy that you harnass as a human. Some people are actually frightened of me when they meet me because they say my eyes look like I can see right thru them, this is a misconception as I can see thru them and the next ten people.... Being capable of tapping into these dimensions is a mystery for now but I am sure we will have some concrete science as to what this energy is in our near pasts or our near futures. I personally think it has more to do with the time space continuim and our DNA being connected somehow with the grand unification theory.
 Yellow44

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Posted: 10/3/2007 1:11:00 AM
All those who are skeptical, I completely relate to what you think. I used to be like you and sometimes still am.

In my younger, skeptical, pre-spiritual awakening days, I used to visit different kinds of readers just for fun. I would do things to test them. Some would fail tests, and others were extremely accurate with past and future people and events. There are definitely a lot of fakes, people who do indeed cold read, you can pick those out pretty quick. There were readers who I did not say a word to, make eye contact with, held my hands on my lap where they couldn’t see them, were told that I would not answer questions, who were very accurate.

I eventually learned that there are some very good psychics, channelers and mediums out there. I have also learned that I can tell the difference between real ones and fake ones, and the accuracy of the real ones.

I myself have developed probably a latent sensitivity to aspects of people. I just have to hear somebody talk about a friend of theirs I’ve never met or heard of, mention a name or maybe see a picture and I get a kind of.. Well almost like a flavor of the wounded part of them. It is difficult to describe. I don’t get other kinds of information about them, just this kind of thing. I don’t get information on everybody, maybe 60% of people but when I do I’m usually quite accurate.

There are channelers, mediums and psychics. Although the sensitivities of all these is psychic in nature. All have varying strengths, levels of accuracy and sensitivity. Channelers will convey information from spiritual entities, angels, ascended masters (so they say). Mediums deal with lower level spiritual energies, what could be called ghosts and people who are dead. People like Sylvia Browne are good mediums in dealing with those lower level spiritual energies, but she is not very good with higher level sensitivities and information.

The fakes usually have a lot of their ego involved in what they do. They have a need to uphold their “specialness”, the importance of who they are or what they do. If there is a lot of ritual around it or it takes a lot of time to “receive” information, chances are they aren’t very good. You can tell the difference by how much of their ego, or small self, colors the information.

Real psychic information comes instantly and sometimes too quickly to process. It comes to them in different ways, sometimes they will hear a voice or words, sometimes they will get some kind of feeling or sensation in different parts of their bodies that they can instantly somehow translate. Some may see types of visual information. Some may get a mix of these things. Often the information itself is tough to describe. There is no thought involved in the process and the information isn’t colored by the personality of the person. Thought gets in the way and diminishes the accuracy.

An ex of mine fancied herself a medium and she was, but only at certain times. She had a need to be special, so would make a big show out of receiving energy that would take a long time to come out. She would close her eyes and make a show and ruminate for one or two minutes only to come up with a one or two word answer. It was pretty much all crap. We would be at funerals and she would always take it upon herself to go up to the families of the deceased and try to pass on generic bullshiit information to them. It would really piss me off. If it was real that would be great, but it was just her baggage.

At the same time she did have a sensitivity and interaction with these lower level spiritual energies or ghosts. I had a few really wild experiences of this nature in her presence. She would rarely, if she was in the right conditions, usually when driving alone on long distances, receive information from dead relatives which was intended to be passed on to people she knew. She was very accurate at these times. She gave a lot of extremely accurate information to her 80 year old father from the spiritual energy of her grandfather who died when her father was just a kid. The content of this kind of information is almost always loving in nature and has a healing effect on the living.

Twice while we were together, while sleeping, in the middle of the night I would snap awake for no seeming reason then a few seconds later, while she was sleeping next to me, some energy or being would start talking through her to me. It was really strange, but this was a completely different voice coming out of her mouth, not her at all. This information was very specifically for me and while it was coming to me there was this really calm loving feeling that accompanied it. That is always a hallmark of good channeled information, it ALWAYS feels very loving and resonates deeply. You feel it in your body.

Any information that a psychic gives you in the way of personal predictions is based on who you are at the moment you are with them. You can go out, make different choices in your life and the next reading you can get different information. It is really an extrapolation of who you are in that moment. Nothing is carved in stone. You always have freewill which changes things all the time. I eventually stopped going to them when I kind of grew out of them. I found that I could see the same things for myself and often more than they could.

DaveB951:


but something as significant as 9/11 or other past/future atrocities that affect/affected mankind in general and you don`t hear a peep


Psychics or people with these sensitivities can’t see or predict everything. They just get information that they need at the moment or for the people in front of them. Well there may have indeed been many who were able to see events like these. But they probably just made the predictions quietly to a handful of people they knew. They know that most people, as absurd as it sounds, are not ready to be told some of these things, they just won’t believe them. Often these are deeply sensitive people who don’t do well with ridicule, so they just learn to keep things to themselves or where they feel safe. If skeptical people like yourself were warned about something you would probably immediately dismiss them as nutty and ignore it. In this culture their warnings would fall on deaf ears.


That’s my $2 worth..
 Adventurer215

Joined: 11/23/2006
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Posted: 10/5/2007 7:05:41 PM
Well first, I believe in spirits and spiritual guides and the ability to communicate with them through psychics and get messages from them. That is part of my religion. I have been to psychics and know others who have. I am a believer in them as guides....not the final answer.

The first thing is belief. Belief creates our reality...if you believe in them, then it is real. If you don't, then they are not. 3 Shamans and a psychic reader all told me and described to me exactly the description of one of my spirit guides. That gives me a foundation for belief.

A friend of mine, who is psychic explained to me in a way that makes a lot of sense. She used the story of A Christmas Carol as an example. What was, what is and what may be. Not what will be, but what may be. Because going to point A from point B has many paths. The psychic or somebody doing any reading by any method, either by tarot, runes, scrying, numerology or whatever method does not always see every path, but merely a possible path and outcome. It becomes a ' this is what could happen if ' a certain path is followed. It does not mean it will happen. As Scrooge said to the Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come.... "Spirit, are these things that will happen or might happen?". He changed that path therefore changed the foreseen future. We all have that power. The trick is to know what you need to do to arrive at the desired location.

There are those out there looking for answers, any answer.......so go to the ten buck a reading so called psychics....those psychics are the predators preying on our weaknesses. The one thing I know about the predator psychics is they are going on the fact that 95% of the North American population has had or will have the same similar experiences in life. In other words, we probably all have a tall dark stranger/strangeress somewhere in the timeline of our life. Or what are the chances of any one of us 'taking a trip over deep water'? On the other hand, there are those who indeed have a channel into the spirit world and who can talk to our guides. As for those questions like what does he/she feel about me? I know there are other influences in there as well and I don't believe any of those questions can be answered accurately. I once knew someone who went for a reading to someone I respect and she told her I was her soul mate. Something I knew was incorrect as soon as I heard it. However, it was incorrect at that time.....maybe not another time and place and life. I never lost respect for her or her abilities on reading, she only saw something on a very different path or for some unknown reason. Who knows, point B is still a long way off.....

This is my opinion, observations and experience. The bottom line in all of it is know the people or person your getting a reading from....and how genuine they are.....

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 The Devils Advocate

Joined: 7/27/2007
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Posted: 10/5/2007 9:15:23 PM
Science... the new religion,.. Science says that psychics and looking into the future is bunkum.. its all suggestability,.. cold reading.. people prying on others gullability... or is it? Actually, some of the most noteworthy and eminent Quantum psysicists are now contemplating a thing called membrane universerves, parallel universes and String theory.. and the conclusions theyre coming to is that it could be interpreted as a type of 'spirit' world... anti matter.. a Universe super imposed over ours.. Einstein said that time was not linear, but cyclical... past, present and future all existing at once.. are these people mad or delusional? Some call it Spiritualism.. some call it Quantum psysics, some call it intuition,.. some call it baloney.. I personally know for myself that there are some amazing psychics and mediums out there who are very accurate, and very specific,.. forewarned is forearmed.. nothing is written in stone.. and in a Multiverse where many furture versions are possible.. why not gain a little insight before making a descision.. its just more information to make an informed choice with. I think Libertine has it right,.. she uses her talents to help others,.. and probably has a lot of insights into life that others dont.. she doesnt charge, but If a psychic is a good psychic, i see no problem in them charging for their talents.. just as a footballer or actor charges for their talents. DAx.
 Elfin07

Joined: 12/31/2006
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:49:30 PM
Well I had to jump in on this one!
There is a rise in spiritual awareness sweeping the population as we seek the answers to the great beyond, sadly there is a downside to this. Everyday more and more Psychics pop up who are more than happy to take peoples money and pray on their naivety.
But why do people go to Psychics? Simple answer, they are looking for hope.
I don't do future reading, it is pointless for two reasons.
One, the future is fluid and we shape our own destiny. In Native American tradition, at any one time there are twelve possible outcomes which depend on the choices we make.
Two, it takes away from our free will!
If someone is told they will meet a certain someone, they will then live their lives in a manner to try and bring this about, they stop acting on their free will.
This is a very important point, no Psychic or Medium should EVER infringe on a person's free will, it is immoral and wrong.
Psychic readings can be a useful tool to give answers and meanings to a persons life, clarification and guidance but that is all. Anyway, who wants to know the future? That takes the fun out of life!
You can choose to believe in it or not, just be careful who you give your money to.
 leetabeens

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Posted: 11/4/2008 10:46:38 AM
There is some genuine folks out there who do want to help. Just check out the persons reputation before hand, word of mouth is usually good. If someone is charging alot that doesnt really mean that they are good. Avoid spells and those that try and make you feel bad, guilty or that there is something wrong with you. Stick to positive readers.
 thatsamoreme

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Posted: 11/4/2008 11:21:36 AM
as a Medium/Psychic myself, amongst other things, what do I think...some are good, some are not so good, some do it for ego, some for money, some for God, all of us have a purpose here, my suggestion would be if your interested then go to a reputable spiritualist church, or the Spiritual National Union, to resource the Medium.
light and love
 diamondgirl2727

Joined: 2/25/2008
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Posted: 11/4/2008 1:14:35 PM
Although everyone is entitled to their opinion, I would never say I know everything about heaven , earth and the universe. The uninformed ,close-minded and ignorant will scoff at anything that is not concrete and tangible. Most people don't understand that a person with a true gift does not and can not know everything about the future, it doesn't work that way. A Lot of things that happen to people they say is coincidence, but I say it was intuition. They just refuse to listen. I have read palms for people for fun and I always have a line of people wanting me to read them. I don't consider myself psychic, just intuitive. It never ceases to amaze me or them when I am right about something I couldn't possibly know. I just find this an interesting subject and I believe that all the answers to all the questions in this world will be revealed when our time is done in this life.
 lelathecat

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Posted: 11/4/2008 1:45:00 PM
They are fun if done in moderation.

I still make my own decision about things no matter what a psychic would say.

I have a relative who is a psychic but she is obsessed with it to the point of neglecting her family. I think it is OCD. She uses it to support and enable her mental illness.

I remember she gave me dire warnings about taking a trip to Mexico saying I would be robbed and my daughter would be raped if I went.

She was just envious I was taking a trip and she wasn't.

It made me quite disgusted with her she would say such terrible things and I went anyway and we had a wonderful time.
 js104c1

Joined: 3/7/2008
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Posted: 11/4/2008 1:50:26 PM
I think its the biggest crock of sh!t, its for entertainment purposes obviously and anything that happens that the psychic did say is purely coincidental. If you break up with someone cause a phychic says that person will cheat on you, well, I have this prize real estate in Chernobel you might be interested in.
 leetabeens

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Posted: 11/4/2008 2:08:32 PM
I work as a psychic, doing local things and some online. Its in our family so Im 4th generation, I think its like growing up with a religion. My goal is to help others, I charge for readings but try to keep it affordable. I offer the 3 free questions on here and I get alot of emails, which is great!!! Its about being kind to your fellow man.
 Country Music Fan

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Posted: 11/5/2008 5:06:40 PM
I am a believer !!
 *motown*cowgirl*

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Posted: 11/5/2008 5:16:14 PM
i think a fool and his money are soon parted!

most so-called "psychic" readers are nothing more than cold readers. it's just a skill that can be learned, like any other skill. it's not magic, it's not mysterious, and it's not woo-woo ascertaining of the future that can only be gotten through very special people (a.k.a. "the psychic").

on the other hand....

i don't dismiss psychic stuff completely because i have had my own direct experience of such things... and i mean *without* the benefit of a PAID intermediary.

archetypes are archetypes, and human psychology has its own characteristics which are fairly consistent across the population, one of which is the ability to tap into these archetypes and understand and discern very personalized and significant meaning from things like synchronicity. so go pick up a pack of tarot cards and learn how to read them for yourself. why go running off to some huckster.
 Spitfire1956

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Posted: 11/5/2008 5:48:12 PM
I would like to find someone that could actually tell me something, but so far I haven't found anyone. I would love to have someone be able to tell me what I want to know on my husband's death- but, there hasn't been anyone that good.
 bodypro8

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Posted: 11/5/2008 6:46:05 PM
I have done past life regression and I found out that I used to be Napoleon Bonaparte. I also used to be Topo Gigio, that little puppet thing on the Ed Sullivan Show. What do I think about people who have psychics' readings? Well, I don't think about them one way or the other. It's their money.
 elcasey

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Posted: 11/5/2008 7:08:26 PM
I think it is sad, because the person is obviously looking for answers, and I doubt they will find the right answers from a psychic.

Is it possible a psychic could give them good advice? Well, yes, but the probability isn't very high. Now let's assume that psychics were for real. Then assuming you weren't going to a "fake" psychic but the real deal, then you might walk away alright. But that's some assumptions I'd rather not make. A good licenced phyciatrist (sp) could probably help someone alot more. Think about it. Would you rather go to someone who might be able to help (convroversy over psychics) or would you rather go to someone who is licenced to help? I would perfer the later, but to each his own.
 StarlightBell

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Posted: 11/5/2008 7:45:28 PM
It may be a waste of money to you, how many people pay $100.00 plus to see a shrink. When all they have to do is have the strength to deal with their issues and the common sense to go with it. As amother person who has psychic gifts and has saved a couple of peoples lives with my gifts, I will tell you this much. There are some psychic thieves out there taking advantage of people. But there are people like myself who only pass on the information that God gives me to pass on. I don't charge for it either. If you've had deja vu, or have known who was on the phone before you picked it up without call display of course, or have taken a different route just because something told you to, are also psychic gifts and you may have avoided some tragety. The only people who think those who have gifts are quacks are those with ignorance and the inability of understanding things they don't understand. Don't judge until you actually research and have knowledge of things that you don't understand. I guess Edison, Enstein and Alexander Graham Bell were quacks to for thinking their ideas and also their psychic gifts were wrong about the light bulb, the theory of relativity, and the telephone. What losers they were to think that human kind could benefit from their visions.
 daynadaze

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Posted: 11/5/2008 8:01:52 PM
I sit on the fence on this one. Most seem to be looking for suckers, but I do think some people are very intuitive about others and who the heck knows what all the brain can do. I use to date a man that I had dreams about that came true, dreams that seemed unrelated to what could or would happen when I had them but happened, and no I wasn't telling them to him...not until a really strange one came true and after I told him about them they stopped. LOL So much for my psychic skills!

I had a really great reading once by an astrologer that was just full of truths about me and how I related to the world at the time and about the men I date, etc., based on my birth date and time and my name. I've had a psychic tell me some really interesting info that I later found out to be true while much of what she said was BS, and I've called those hotlines years ago when they were popular and gotten the same old bologna you'd expect from the phony newspaper & magazine horoscopes thingies.

I don't discount that someone has a talent for reading people until I hear what they have to say and how they 'work' you when talking to you.
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