| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/2/2009 9:48:25 AM | Some posters say there is a difference between true and fake psychics. I couldn't agree more. The difference is true psychics don't exit. Fakes ones do. That's right. True psychics do NOT exist. They're all FAKES. Hucksters, con artists, charlatans the lot.
What about all the things they tell you that they "could not have known?" Lucky guesses. Coincidence. Generalizations you latch on to. You unknowingly gave them the info during the current or previous conversation. A friend or family member gave them the info. Or like any good con artist, they gathered the information ahead of time. Nothing supernatural here.
As mentioned in a previous post, there has been an offer of several hundred thousand dollars to anyone who can prove their psychic abilities. After more than a decade the money remains unclaimed.
Some argue that true psychics don't care about money. That's why none have come forward to claim the money. It's only the fakes that come forward. Let's be rational. There is nothing stopping someone with actual psychic abilities from coming forward, passings the tests, and refusing the money.
Sincerely,
Timothy Paul | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/2/2009 10:50:29 AM | | Psychics, astrology, religion, all are a wish that there is some greater intelligence guiding our lives so we don't actually have to think for ourselves. Then, when something goes wrong, we get to blame someone else. It's all baloney; and I wouldn't be surprised if people like Madoff target people who believe in that stuff as potential investors based on the knowledge that they will believe in magical things rather than reality. | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/2/2009 11:08:19 AM |
Someone who believes in psychics is not intelligent enough for me to want to date.
Someone who doesn't believe in psychics is not intelligent enough for me to want to date. Only narrow minded people limit themselves to experiences that are limited to 5 senses. Intelligent people tap into higher intelligent forms including talking to dogs and cats and transcending space and time LOOOL!
The way I view it is that people who believe in paranormal activity are either extremely retarded or extremely intelligent. Extremely retarded because they have believed without knowing anything that warrants that belief, sort of like children believing a pony trick. Extremely intelligent because they have done the "quantum leap" and have come full circle from doubters to believers, a journey that can only be undertaken by a dynamic mind capable of making connections "normal" people will never be able to make, both empirically and theoretically.
Believing in the paranormal requires a strong grasp of science together with the openness to the outer realms that can only come from being "exposed" to belief in earlier life as a retarded believer :-). | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/2/2009 11:39:12 AM | Brings to mind a mirage in the desert. Is the mind seeing what it wants to see ? Is the brain showing the eyes or are the eyes showing the brain ?
Is the thought/desire of wanting/needing water suggesting fantasy into reality ? The reality of seeing a lake or pool of water in the middle of the desert is so real, that one will run up and dive into and/or drink pure sand.... What are we really seeing other then simply heat waves rising over the hot sand....... yet it is so real and believable when in fact it is nothing but the physics of heat playing tricks on the eye/mind
Even if not thirsty one will still see it even though it is not there.............However... the more desperate and thirsty , that much more believable it WILL appear....... Same principles can be applied to psychics.....
Some may say, what does mirages have to do with psychics. Mind over matter I guess....if you believe....... it will matter................ if you don`t........ it doesn`t.....
In the end..... things are not what they seem......even though they do really seem to be.......when in fact they are not....... merely a mirage........playing tricks on the mind...... seeing what is not there and never was there.....
Peace | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/2/2009 1:39:31 PM | I think some people are more intuitive, more sensitive to picking up things that others would miss.
To what extent it exists, I'm not sure, but I'm not one to naysay it.
That said, most psychics are a huge waste of money. But if someone found a good one, I can see why they'd keep going back. | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/2/2009 1:51:48 PM | | I would never trust a psychic that charged money. I'd rather talk to a friend that has life experience and can offer me solid advice based on what they've been through. That's fine if people choose not to believe in religion, or psychic abilities, etc. I choose to believe in them because I'm a very spiritual person. It's silly to say they are for weak minded people. Countless hours of meditation (etc) have made my mind sharper, my memory better, and my life more focused. Going to seek advice from wise people isn't new, but someone paid to shuffle cards shouldn't be helping you make a huge decision that could alter your life completely. | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/2/2009 1:52:49 PM |
You will be surprised I have met several folks who do have regular experiences with psychic readings. My Shrink confirmed when I asked for his opinion that he does have quite a few clients who actually do it.
Many of those folks are relatively intelligent and what we may call "normal". Those people who claim they do it usually say that they called several, it was BS, nothing was true , all they cared was money and after searching around they could find those who actually guided them and helped them. I have heard from one of my buddies who is actually MD and very sharp that he found the psychic lady who guided him about his fiancee and he could confirm months and months later that the psychic lady was right.
It is strange but my therapist (PhD in psycology) --spell check...quite open to an idea of those readings and claims that he had some clients who got help from that big time.
As far I understand they can answer your questions such as :
What he/she feels about me? Does he/she cheats on me? What are the person's true intentions? Does he/she lies or hides anything?
I know that one of girls from work sees this sort of lady. The only way I know it is that sometimes she needs to leave from work like 30 min earlier. Looks like no one has a problem with that...Because it is workplace I can't ask her too many questions about it.
Your thoughts? Did someone has a direct experience with this subject?
Lol, my Mom is one of those who gets called when people want Psychic readings.
She see's dead people.
My mind generally shuts down and goes to la la land when she starts yapping about it. We get in arguments all the time over it.
Bottom line here is my take on it. Some people are very intuitive and can resolve patterns based on life experiences. Combine that with good observational skills and you can predict things with pretty good accuracy. I feel I have this ability. I feel my Mom has this ability.
I choose to think its something inside me (a learned skill) she chooses to believe it's balls of light and purple shadows feeding her the information. | |
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drstew
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/4/2009 2:42:22 PM |
I would like to find someone that could actually tell me something, but so far I haven't found anyone. I would love to have someone be able to tell me what I want to know on my husband's death- but, there hasn't been anyone that good.
I read your post a couple of days ago and I am sensitive to energy. I've changed my profile twice and now it is "Flat", but I will work in it later. I think there are psychics this good, but I don't think you a need a psychic. I think you have a couple of friends that would like to help you but you are putting off some wicked energy as in a "conspiracy" theory when it comes to your husband. His energy is kind of the same way. It would be a head trip to go back there that would endure for about a month, whomever took this on. Kind of like an emotional hangover, and for someone quite sensitive, I don't know if it would be worth it. ( as in emotional) So yes, there are people that sense this,, but I don't l know if they would take this on.
Anyway--when I read your post, the only thing that came to me was that he "fell". I don't know if this was a mental fall that led to his death, that proceeded a physical fall or the other way around. It was in the heat of the moment, and whatever he was caught up into at that time wasn't as big as he thought. Why I am picking up on your energy is only to tell you to move on. I am taking it, he had something to do with the government, like ex-military ( and maybe that is what I am picking up on because I am too) But also to tell you that it was no conspiracy theory and it is time to move on. You have friends around you, but they feel this energy also and stay at a distance. Was he in Nam? | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/4/2009 2:52:00 PM | The thing about predictions is that people only remember the true ones.
I've seen documentaries of this stuff where they show the person during the reading. The psychic misses again and again and again and then hits majorly on one guess. Afterwards, the person is interviewed and gives the psychic rave reviews based off the big hit.
And completely ignores all the misses.
I CAN GUESS 50 THINGS ABOUT YOU AND GET SOME RIGHT.
Even look at some stupid sports articles. The sportswriter will make all sorts of guesses and picks for the upcoming season. Some guesses are just absurd. He manages to hit some that sorta come through and then writes an article after the season about how right he was. Everyone ignores that he predicted many other stupid things.
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/4/2009 3:02:10 PM | Like I always say "You will know the whole truth when you are dead." I love how people make fun of others who believe in psychics (even the police and gov't use them), but get all offended when someone says "Hey wait, you believe in an invisible entity (aka the Holy Ghost) called "God", and isn't that... hypocritical?" People are entitled to their own beliefs, and no one is above the other based on their beliefs. I have seen parents who have lost their children to violence, to sickness, and so they ask psychics for help. Some psychics DO NOT charge. Some psychics are dead on, and some are faux. Just like everyone else. Don't demean others based on your own bias beliefs. Step in a strangers shoes for a moment, and learn somthing new. Remember once people thought the world was flat. We know better now, don't we?  | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/4/2009 9:05:35 PM |
Remember once people thought the world was flat. We know better now, don't we?
Whats that got to do with psychics?
You don't need to imagine or believe its true.. There is hard physical evidence that the earth is not flat. | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/4/2009 9:33:43 PM | To Rustic36:
The point is exactly how you put it. There is scientific proof that psi abilities are real and are accounted for, just as there is scientific proof that the earth is round. Read Gavin De Becker's The Gift of Fear. That's all. Everyone has it, just some have it better than others like some people have 6 pack abs, and others can't stomach the exercising to get the 6 pack. Moms almost always know when their children are in danger even if the kid is a 1000 miles away. Police and military peeps call it the gut hunch. Even snipers know better than to stare at their target becaus the target will feel the stare. Most peeps have been on the bus, got the funny feeling that someone is thinking or staring at them, and so the person quickly tuns around to spot the exact person who is staring a hole in the back of their head. This is being psychic. It's not just reading cards or tea leaves. | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/6/2009 2:20:10 AM | There is scientific proof that psi abilities are real and are accounted for ...
If there is scientific proof that psi abilities are real, then provide me with the journal articles they are stated in. That is, peer reviewed journals, anything else can not be claimed as valid if others have not reviewed and agreed with the evidence. Anyone can write a book and claim something is true, whether they have a Phd or not.
I have access to several data bases, so, show me your proof, give me the journal names, article titles and authors. Then I can look at the statistical evidence, the significance of the tests and what they actually proved to exist.
I have the feeling that you won't find any, as, all the documentories about the subject have never displayed science, psychological journals etc., that have proof. That is the age old problem. There is no physical or scientific proof!
Prove me wrong... | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/6/2009 6:37:38 AM | The point is exactly how you put it. There is scientific proof that psi abilities are real and are accounted for, just as there is scientific proof that the earth is round.
There is no such proof for psychic ability. The James Randi Educational Foundation has $1,000,000.00 held in escrow for anyone who can demostrate psychic ability.
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
From the web site:
``At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF does not involve itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval of the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to perform a relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if successful, will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the applicant lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the "applicant" becomes a "claimant."
To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.''
The site has a list of 174 (failed) applicants so far.
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/6/2009 8:18:11 AM | I've been doing psychic readings for 23 years...and everyone I've read for has told me that I've been correct in my "predictions".
The general basis for a tarot card reading (that's the type I do), is to make the client aware of any obstacles that they need to overcome, fears they are not recognizing and the best course of action for the result desired. I try to let them know what kinds of problems may come up in their journey, and where they should look for their fulfillment. I also let them know that their outcome may change based on decisions they may make with regards to the information I've given them. Being aware of danger often will make you choose a different path! | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/6/2009 9:11:03 AM | I never believed in psychics... until I met one whose gift I am convinced is genuine. She didn't know me from Adam and her first words to me were "Who is Jessi?" (my oldest daughter). She told me other things which have come to pass, some fairly 'big' things (like that I would have 2 more kids at a time I was swearing I would have no more children; I wasn't even married at the time) and inconsequential things (like asking who Mike was and I know Mikes but no one in particular; she told me "It'll make sense in a day or 2." Sure enuf, a business colleague named Mike rescued a friend and her children from their stalled van during a snow storm the following day). I can ask her direct questions but that really isn't her 'specialty.'
I used to get readings from her once or twice a year but moved away for and had not seen her in several years. After my partner died I had some issues with someone else relating to his death so I went to see the psychic. Not only did she know about the problem before I said little more than hello, she described my partner whom she had never met or seen a picture of, and told me he was standing behind. | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/6/2009 11:30:36 AM | There is no such proof for psychic ability. The James Randi Educational Foundation has $1,000,000.00 held in escrow for anyone who can demostrate psychic ability.
I used to go around quoting James Randi and pointing out that there's a million bucks as well as a good amount of fame and great publicity waiting for anyone who can prove any type of paranormal phenomenon under controlled test conditions (designed to weed out fakery and other "errors"). I would point out that to this date hundreds if not thousands of applicants have tried to demonstrate their "powers" and every single one has failed miserably.
I would also point out that well known "psychic" Sylvia Browne agreed, live on Larry King, to take the Randi Foundation challenge and demonstrate her "powers" under the controlled conditions of the test but to date, she has yet to submit her application.
I would also refer readers to a book titled "The Truth About Uri Geller, which exposes every single one of his tricks that he tries to pass off as "psychic ability".
To date there has been not one single verifiable instance of psychic phemonenon and it is reasonable to assume there never will be.
But I no longer bother, because, more importantly, people tend to believe silly and unsubstantiated things, often defying logic and common sense. The power of human denial and stupidity will always reign supreme.
"nuff said" | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/7/2009 8:51:40 PM |
emaghol : Well... they don't understand the process of cold reading...
They don't want to understand it.
Much more fun to believe it's "real".
Remember folks, anyone can talk to dead people...it's getting them to answer you that's the tricky part. | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/7/2009 8:56:23 PM | | I work with a Deep Trance Channeler and have witnessed profound positive changes in people.. their life situations. Answers to questions that there really is no where else to turn to for answers. Through a channeler those answers can be unlocked. I love my work!:) and am intuitive myself. So what do I think about them? They are usually very open minded, deep thinking, spiritual and caring people... very non judgmental. What do I think about the people who give the readings? Priceless :) | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/7/2009 9:04:09 PM | | I find it sill, but harmless if they don't take it as serious. If they view it properly as what it is, entertainment, fine. I can't say it would affect my liklihood of dating someone especially, unless they genuinely tried to pattern their life to meet some script a "psychic" laid out for them. Unless I really liked the woman and whatever baloney the psychic tossed out there worked out delightfully in my favor. Then I might roll with it, but still roll my eyes continually. | |
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drstew
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 8/7/2009 9:07:56 PM |
There is no such proof for psychic ability. The James Randi Educational Foundation has $1,000,000.00 held in escrow for anyone who can demostrate psychic ability.
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
I've seen you and whats her name, post this all over the boards. This so redundant for a real psychic. That reward will remain unclaimed.
And no, you'll never get the reasoning behind it either. Ah, I suppose you could wave a $100 bill in order to find out but I seriously doubt you will get any takers. Neither will your friend Mr. Randi.
That's so comical in the world of dunce. | |
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| What do you think about people who have psychics' readings?
Posted: 9/10/2009 8:41:10 AM |
As far I understand they can answer your questions such as :
What he/she feels about me? Does he/she cheats on me? What are the person's true intentions? Does he/she lies or hides anything?
But how do you prove those answers? If the psychic says he/she is hiding something from you & you confront them & they say they aren't hiding anything, then what? Either they are lying or.... GASP!!!!.... the psychic was wrong!!!!
And aren't we all hiding something ( however trivial or non-relationship ending; perhaps you pick your nose when alone, or don't always wash your hands after visiting a bathroom) from our significant other? | |
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