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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 10/9/2007 6:43:21 PM | I don't care what anybody says, I love all types of metal and rock and would class all the bands that have been mentioned as heavy metal/rock, there are so many metal genres that bands come under for example slayer, testament, metallica, nuclear assault, megadeth, anthrax, exodus etc. is your classic thrash but I still class it as heavy metal/rock, these genres are only for people who aren't like me and don't like all types but just certain types of metal for example somebody who only likes pop/punk and emo like green day, funeral for a friend, jimmy eat world, the used, my chemical romance etc. again I class as metal because I am open minded and like it all but I am not quite sure what you mean about real metal though or if you mean do they have the rock image and lifestyle, a lot of newer bands like slipknot sound really hard but it is just an act, but a band like motorhead, AC/DC, lynyrd skynyrd and motley crue etc. have really lived the rock and roll life.
On the subject of love songs though, again I am not quite sure what you mean exactly but you say that Poison and Whitesnake shouldn't be classed as metal because of this but even the mighty Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and AC/DC have done some love songs. Whatever they sing about as long as it sounds like metal to me with plenty of guitar solos etc. then it will always be heavy metal/rock to me, I am so glad that I appreciate the diversity of this never ageing wonderful musical genre whether it be grunge, 80's hair metal, glam rock, classic punk, death metal, nu metal, metalcore, emo, pop punk, prog rock, new wave british heavy metal, classic rock, you name it I will probably love it. | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 10/9/2007 7:28:20 PM | I know most categorize alot of bands as Heavy Metal but I don`t really think of it that way. More like Death Metal and bands like Slayer and Black Label Society I consider really heavy.
Bands like Black Sabbath, ACDC, Danzig, Manson, Korn etc. etc. seems pretty tame and down right relaxing in comparison to what I would consider heavy. Much of this stuff is the evolution of rock more than anything and bands who go beyond that are alternative....like Tool for example without being what I consider heavy.
I like listening to it because its complex and provokes emotions much like Classical Music. While I listen to many other genres of music, there isn`t a whole lot of difference in the type of feelings they provoke. A lot of dance or rap music seems to just be geared to making your body move as opposed to the actual complexity of the music itself....with the exception of the likes of Eminem. | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/15/2008 10:02:27 AM | | i prefer swedish/finnish melodic death aka dark tranquility, soilwork, and children of bodom. as fare as metal I love NILE and NAPALM DEATH. napalm has always been extremely political music. | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/15/2008 1:45:38 PM |
find that bands like Poison and White Snake and several other bands that call themselves metal just don't seem to really be. There seem to be, imho, too many long haired, guitar banging bands that play whimpy "where is she", "I miss her" type songs yet still call themselves heavy metal.
Maybe such bands never heard of Black Sabbath, Motorhead, AC/DC, etc.
I would call them pop metal, even though they have the glam aspect to them and are not as heavy as say, Metallica, Motorhead, AC/DC and other bands.
They still rock as far as I am concerned. Some of them had really good songs, but all good music has gone and now all we have is rap, hip hop and dance crap...sheeeezzzz.... | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/15/2008 2:37:48 PM | | i agree. the bands back in the 80s & early 90s may involve these pop metal bands but it is still rock. even the pop music rocks harder back then than it does now. i might be 21 and should be listerning to todays music but i dont. why because it sucks. there is too much mushy slow love songs now, singers now sing in the same common or****ey voice like lilly allen which sounds crap and awful. other songs r repetertive or copys of old great songs where they either use the tune in the background of thier lyrics or use the lyrics of old songs and make it sound awful. whitesnake is alot beter than this modern day rubbish. bring back the old days and metal where the sound is alive and hard | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/15/2008 7:02:41 PM | I loved Zeppelin in the 70's, still do. The second concert I saw of theirs was in '77. It was festival seating which meant first in got the best seats so we were just off the orchestra floor, maybe 30 feet from the stage at eye level. They were late to the arena and went on to play for 3 1/2 incredible hours. So I've always been a snob about that kind of music. Hair bands are almost as authentic as Kiss dolls.
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/16/2008 1:29:40 PM |
Manowar (oh wait it's ManOwaR right) is the ony band that is TOO loud to the point of actually being somewhat painful. Or maybe it was because the venue was too small - either way I think they actually bragg about it.
They are actually in the Guinness Book for the volume of their shows.The thing about Manowar is that they are loud as **** and-at least the 2x i have seen 'em-REALLY clear and the playing was TIGHT!!!.These guys know how to rock.-After all-all men play on 10, you know 
Agreed with the poster who talked about record companies trying to cash in on the term Heavy Metal.Whitesnake, Poison, Ratt, Motley Cru, Dokken-hair bands or****rock-not metal.
Hell, Lemmy consistently calls the music Motorhead play rock & roll.
I'd consider them Metal.
To be frank, i am embarrassed to see how long this thread has gone without mention of the metal gods themselves-JUDAS PRIEST.
I would say the pillars of Heavy Metal music are Led Zeppelin,Deep Purple,Rainbow,Judas Priest, Iron Maiden & Black Sabbath.
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jorben
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/16/2008 6:52:53 PM | | heck, everybody made some good points, but some of the hair bands ruined it for everybody. namely poison, and warrant. most of the 80's hair bands were great musically and played 90% rockin tunes. ratt, crue, along with some of the all time greats like ac-dc, megadeth, ozzy, priest, and maiden were and are far superior to 90% of the crap out today. if u r a big fan of 80's hair bands go to pryor oklahoma, the weekend of july 11th for rocklahomaII. last year was awesome. 3 days and nights of some of the best from the day. last year prices were 225.00, and that included vip seating, and all the food and beer u wanted for all 3 days. ROCK ON METALHEADS!!! | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/17/2008 4:07:52 AM | | Personally I would not worry about it too much. Each band has a right to their artistic expression. So they may try to come out with something new. I like all types of rock, heavy metal with out trying to lock them into a specific label. | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/17/2008 1:16:42 PM | ok lets get one thing straight..
Poison and White Snake were classified as Heavy Metal back in the 1970s/80s.
The 80s is when the harder genres of music truly began to form. So, they WERE classified as Heavy Metal back in the 80s. This is also the same for Motley Crue.
Bands like Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, and Slayer(also known as "The Big 4" in the 80s) were then known as "Thrash Metal". Since then, the industry has redefined its standard of what is and isn't Heavy Metal.
Nowadays, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Anthrax are what's classified as Heavy Metal. The same is said for Ra, Avenged Sevenfold, Chimera, Trivium, and the like.
My point is that you can't get insulted or upset over what a band was classified when the genre really first started to come out. I would get offended if someone classified a pop artist in the Rock genre.. then we really have things to worry about.
But you just have to take it for what it both is and what it was. | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/17/2008 2:56:53 PM | many bands call themselves metal...only a few stay true to what they believe in
a majority of the 80s metal bands were sell out pop versions. in the 80s is when "metal" was targeted to advertise to the female audience thus giving bands like def leppard, motley crue, skid row, cinderella etc. a chance to make money.
real heavy metal ..... rarely gets played on the radio due to the fact too many ppl will complain... song length or .... the dj is a total retard.
most of the 80s "metal" bands were mostly ballads about something emotional. similar like another user recalling the term "EMO" just punk-rocks version of similar bullshit the industry needed to flood with no talent what so ever.
4 those fans whom really admire REAL ROCK .... i salute u .... since the worlds blind with "WORTHLESS JUNK" | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/24/2008 10:13:03 AM | WOW! everyone is putting a pounding on the hair bands, but I must join you in this beating. The hair bands remind me of a boy band with instruments. All the bands that I have seen listed in this post are wesome with the exception of Avenged Sevenfold, what a was of money their new cd was. To be honest the metal scene now is kicking ass. In what time can you think that christian bands ( As I Lay Dying, Still Remains) could hold there own against bands like Devildriver, Killswitch Engage, Lamb of God. We are lucky to have such a wide variety of metal, that doesn't include those punk wannabe's from the 80's. I could list a ton of songs or bands but that would take all day.
Check out www.pandoria.com it's free and the best way to find new bands. | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/24/2008 4:01:56 PM | It's really difficult to say nowadays. Some is hard rock, some is metal, & nowadays, you have industrial, hardcore, grunge, etc.
It seems that over a half a century, rock & roll split into so many things from the 1950's to today. I don't know if Jimi Hendrix & Led Zeppelin & Queen can be considered metal, but some actually place them, or at least some of their music, in that category.
About Whitesnake - David Coverdale was a member of Deep Purple after Ian Gillan split from the group. I'm surprised that the band didn't disappear when Deep Purple reformed, being that when they first started, the members were former Deep Purple members (Ian Paice, Jon Lord, & I think Glenn Hughes - who replaced Roger Glover on bass). When they started Mach I version of Deep Purple was no way metal. It was Mach II where Ian Gillan joined when Deep Purple was considered metal.
Between Black Sabbath & Deep Purple, they sure interchanged personnel a lot, & that also includes the bands that were formed by various members of those groups. Black Sabbath even had Rob Halford of Judas Priest sing for them - I cannot remember when that was or what happened, but they needed a singer, & I think Priest had front-lined for Black Sabbath, or something like that.
Then you have your "Melodic metal" - as some call it - a lot of the Scorpions stuff, Yngiie Malmsteen (starting with his Trilogy album), Michael Schenker Group, I think a lot of stuff by Doro Pesch / Warlock fits into this category also.
I'm surprised no one mentioned Van Halen. Not too sure about the Van Hagar material though. | |
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/25/2008 4:08:02 AM | | I don't think anyone has mentioned Cinderella. I thought they were just a bunch of pretty boys in makeup and spandex when I saw their first videos, but then I saw them open for Judas Priest in 1988 and they kicked serious ass. By then they had slacked off on the makeup and spandex and they totally rocked. I'd love to see them with their original lineup again. We have an upcoming WASP concert here, a band a lot of people have considered at joke, but hey, Blackie Lawless is still out there rocking it. Gotta respect the guy for that. I may try to go. My son is into Dragonforce, Devil Wears Prada, Children of Bodem, and Killswtich Engage, and some System of a Down. I can respect what their doing even if it's a little hard core for me. AC/DC and Priest, Deep Purple and Cinderella will always be my faves. Different strokes for different folks. Oh hell, almost forgot Anthrax, another favorite, with both singers. | |
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jonr79
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Joined: 1/14/2008
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| Metal/Hard Rock bands But Are They Really
Posted: 1/25/2008 4:31:38 AM |
I find that bands like Poison and White Snake and several other bands that call themselves metal just don't seem to really be. There seem to be, imho, too many long haired, guitar banging bands that play whimpy "where is she", "I miss her" type songs yet still call themselves heavy metal.
Maybe such bands never heard of Black Sabbath, Motorhead, AC/DC, etc.
Do you agree with me or do you disagree? I'd love to know!
It's the same situation with these limp-wristed hipster bands calling themselves "punk-rock", with their white belts and asymetrical haircuts.
Here's a bit of trivia for you- when Pantera first started out they were part of that whole teased-hair and makeup glam scene. Dimebag Darrell was originally "Diamond Darrell" | |
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