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| Finding Out Your Wonderful BF has a Record and a Dark Side
Posted: 10/16/2007 10:08:57 PM | Well..I don't know everything about everything, as it seems some of the posters seem to. WHAT I do know is what I personally experienced. Over a 12 year period, with much abuse, my First Neighbors, I lived in Michigan then btw, called the police once. They were afraid of my ex, he threatened the men just for looking at me. The next town in Michigan I moved to, I met an awesome woman (a neighbour, Canadians use the letter u in neighbor, Americans don't so I'm taking turns to be politically correct...lol) who had been through some "life" and she finally told my ex...when I was trying to finally leave and had P.P.O.'s and he was threatening with the things I wrote in my first post. Well she told him she kept a loaded shotgun and if she saw him on my property , she would shoot and ask questions later!!! SHE IS MY HERO!!!
Anyway, as far as "inconsistencies in Angel's story...I know I DID the same thing in the beginning. You are confused, hurt and very ashamed. You are trying to grasp onto the "good" things you saw in him, if for any reason to explain to others and understand yourself....why you were there to begin with. It has been 15 years for me now since my "first" year with ex, and that is where Angel is right now. If I look back at myself in that first year, there were many inconsistencies in just my own EMOTIONS about how I felt about him. Let alone what I WAS telling people!!! So I'm not real worried about her inconsistances, I'm more concerened with her saftey. I would injecte myself into anyone's mess RPBurns, even yours, if I felt your life was in danger and I could in any way help. That's what this thread is all about Hon! SHE IS SAFE right now and in her OWN place. That is all I feel I should say at this time. I will let Angel tell more when she wants.
Swabass..I'm so glad you are seeing things and getting answers to some things now. I think that is the hardest part, to decipher it all and put it all in it's place. At first your saying,"What in the H*ll was all that!!! But being able to see and understand now some of the actions "they" did and why, helps put a whole new light on things. Just keep growing Hon. We are more fortunate than Angel, we have more time down the road and away from it. Of course she is confused, those of us that went through it remember how confusing it was.
By the way RPBurns, when you stated that three of us were writing as one. I assume because most of your derogatory statements were directed at Angel and myself, that you feel we were two of them. But I cannot for the life of me figure out whom you think the "third conspiracy" person is. Since I had to spent 12 years of my life trying to fugure out the mind of a delusional, narcissistic, manipulating abuser to keep myself ALIVE and one step ahead of him, I have NO DESIRE to go back there. So please just tell us who the voices in your head are telling you it is....okay dokey.
Take care everyone,
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| Finding Out Your Wonderful BF has a Record and a Dark Side
Posted: 10/16/2007 10:40:41 PM | Robbie, Robbie, Robbie,
Dang if I don't feel like I am in church where the preacher takes one verse and translates the meaning to fit what he wants it to, instead of reading the entire chapter, and translating it for what it is.
No where in my last post did I say ANYTHING DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU...
At this point, it is MOOT as to whether Angel really existed or didn't...
The thread started out about a woman that didn't know what to do because her wonderful boyfriend seemed to turn to the total dark side.
The word is that she went back.
The line that you took, is ME agreeing with Georgie Girl, AND Kool Girl in the accessment that it would NOT BE RIGHT to bash her.
It is ignorance to bash a woman that goes back to her abuser, because if the abuse is happening; returning is all part of the cycle..
We can all stand on our high and mighty pedestals and judge, but the fact is it often takes many tries to break free.
This thread made many people evaluate their own relationships, and to help others care about someone else.
Maybe it also helped bring awareness to abuse, who knows. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 6:32:02 AM | I had to write in this forum after reading what this person RPBurns wrote about "Angel" who had started this thread. I was completely disgusted by the stupidity that was shown in his comments...reread Angel's story from the beginning....the ONLY inconsistancy of her entire story is the behavior of her Ex-boyfriend. Evidently RPBurns, who is obviously a fake profile, or at least one of a 'few' from some BOZO posing as an authority on just about EVERYTHING! Has anyone read his other posts on other threads. He literally bashes just about anyone who doesn't agree with him. (Including a MODERATOR!!!! OOP'S!!!! Gotta be careful there RP, Ummmm, yeah)
As fo his profile, the pics look positively felonous, as if they were mug shots from a criminal file...and perhaps they are. Quite clearly this 'man', providing he IS one, has some definate mental deficits, character flaws and clearly paranoid, also, I suspect by his attempts to sabatoge this thread and 'blame the victim', could possibly be an abuser himself. He certainly has the opinion of one. I suggest he get himself some good glasses, as he is reading things into Angel's words that are NOT EVEN THERE!!!!!AND a VERY GOOD PSYCHIATRIST to diagnose his own illness that would cause him to seek constant attention in numerous forum threads, and believe so grandiosly in his own 'knowledge' of everyone else and everything else under the sun!
Thanks to Markus who began these forums where people could write about things they are afraid to tell others, and seek support from those who might care. And thanks to those that care.
I happen to know "Angel" personally. She is gorgeous, kind and has a VERY good head on her shoulders. Her Ex-boyfriend NEVER abused her nor struck her nor threatened to, and in this thread she says this too. It was his past history of being arrested for abuse, his current history of out of control behavior with others his lying and cheating , and signs og being NPD that caused her to break up with him. She wrote because she was having a hard time looking at the man she had fallen in love with, and understanding he was VERY different that HE PRESENTED HIMSELF TO BE!!!! Knowing the things she found out about him made her afraid he would do these things to her too.
One should NEVER tell a victim of abuse that they are 'crazy or lying', this is EXACTLY what an abusive personality would say. It is something that causes the woman to doubt her own judgement and makes her all the more vulnerable to go back to her abuser...because he is also telling her these things. Once he and people like RPBurns convince her of her 'wrongness' and 'error of HER thinking', she is right where the abuser wants her, feeling worse, to blame for all the 'trouble she caused', and deserving of more abuse for ever doubting HIM!!!!!
There was another poster who stated that all abused women have been abused in their lives when they were growing up, and /or had 'mental/addiction problems. While this is true in a certain percentage of the women in these types of relationships, it is certainly NOT true in a larger percentage. HOw do I know this fact? I did alot of research, published some articles, and wrote 2 well known laws in the USA regarding Domestic Violence. I am also a Registered Nurse with training in Law as well.
ANYONE can fall for someone with NPD who is or has the potential to become abusive and violent. If even the most educated and trained in psychology and law enforcement have a hard time spotting them, how can you expect a normal everyday albeit intelligent woman to always see the signs before it is too late? These guys are VERY good at hiding their true selves, and often only after the woman is emotionally bonded and attached, does this side come out. It may be intermittent, inconsistant, or it may be constant...but it is not 'predictable', and it can happen to the VERY BEST of us..........
BTW, Cathy, please call Amgel. She cannot find your number to call you back and I know she would like to talk to you. She is okay. She does have friends here who are in the community and she has been in touch with a domestic violence counselor who is helping her with all the information and resources she needs to be okay. Thanks to all here who have cared about this situation. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 8:08:28 AM | Bravo,
I am glad to hear that someone else has medical, and legal training, as well as training in domestic violence.
Wow you wrote a couple laws... That is great, there are a couple I am wanting to work on as well (different subjects). As an artist I also designed and painted a picture that was supposed to become a national domestic abuse poster...
Life happened and it never got done.
Anyway, I am glad to see how direct and to the point you are about information on abuse.
I am also VERY GLAD that Angel is getting counseling through a DVC. It is so easy for her to feel silently defeated by going back, and then not saying anything to anyone because of the fear of judgment and rejection.
Let her know that those of us educated about DA know exactly what she is going through and don't judge her. It is tough getting out of the sticky spiders web.
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| Finding Out Your Wonderful BF has a Record and a Dark Side
Posted: 10/17/2007 8:21:19 AM | Koolgirl1:
Yes...the 'picture' after 8 years is becoming more and more clear...and relieving me of much 'guilt' .....'johnny on the spot' is what I was for years...helping him through the ugliest of times due to his binge drinking...always I blamed his shortcomings on alcohol....only until I fell to 'depression' and became less attentive...and the ultimate happen (him running off and getting married)....did it force me to search for answers....a brilliant man...cunning, manipulative, deceitful....my goodness...so many many signs were always there!! Though he never was physically abusive...his tongue was as sharp as a razor....and I often saw a real demon in his eyes and EVERY bad predicament he was ever in was due to someone else...
Looking back, he really did hide well a very secretive part of himself...that I believe he knew I was beginning to see all to well. (many deceiftful acts and hateful words toward his friends, (including his now wife), his co-workers, his job, his family ....that none but he and I know about...and I am SURE...through the years he had very ugly 'things' to say about me to all of them..........ALL of us were pitted against one another......
When he ran off...he ORDERED his friends and family NOT to communicate with me!!
I believe for fear, they'd all learn the truth......it no longer matters to me....after learning via these forums....And I realize it really was a plan in works for some time, they will eventually learn the truth, he didn't change just because he met someone new....at some point even his new wife will see....and probably wonder how I managed to be there for 8 years...at some point she will see that she had what he needed...money to bail him out of an ugly predicament.......at some point she will see... his lack of conviction...his monster will be in full force...his ego, his arrogant cruel self righteous demon will show itself.
He will destroy her illusions of "love" and her own self worth.....when he has broken her in many many ways...he will simply kick her to the curb and 'move on' Without an ounce of remorse. | |
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| Finding Out Your Wonderful BF has a Record and a Dark Side
Posted: 10/17/2007 8:54:15 AM | | your wonderful boyfriend wouldnt be on the net looking for "dates" if he was so wonderful!like most people on here and i mean males only they have issues!woman mainly hae kids or are housewives and want a shag.you say he is on all these different sites YET if he was the one why are you still on plentyoffish and please dont give me this "i`ve met a lot of friends on here id like to keep in contact" because if the net was never invented and you had friends from childhood still in your life and then got married you very RARELY talk to them unless either of you had problems | |
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| Finding Out Your Wonderful BF has a Record and a Dark Side
Posted: 10/17/2007 8:57:47 AM | Dear Angel,
You're finding out (probably again) that anything that seems to be too good to be true probably is.....and I doubt this is a reflection on you. I used to work with a guy like
that years ago. I made the mistake of inviting him to a Thanksgiving dinner at my
place and a single female friend as well. I wasn't trying to match them up but I was
young and didn't have as much experience in such matters. I knew him pretty well
by then and when they seemed to be hitting it off big time I tried to warn the female
friend saying I didn't think he was right for her. She called him into the kitchen and told him that I didn't think they were right for each other. I was just trying to save
her a lot of heart ache and headaches and she humiliated me. Well needless to say
it should surprise you to learn he moved in with her and her son a week later. It
soon turned into a very stormy relationship and on at least one occasion he kicked
in her bedroom door (the sex must have been fantastic). She eventually threw him
out after a few months and I lost touch with them.
I have seen this happen repeatedly and usually the guy is very good looking and the
girl isn't. She's been waiting for her ship to come in and thinks she's finally found
someone who appreciates her inner beauty even though it's probably not much
different that her outter beauty. I'm not saying that's the case here but it often is.
It's best to stay with someone whose physical attractiveness is comparable to one's
own for starters and someone who background is similar to your own. Everyone
has faults and I think you should have been more suspicious when he had abnormally
few. I'm sorry you're in pain, this is the time those guy "friends" could come in handy.
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| Finding Out Your Wonderful BF has a Record and a Dark Side
Posted: 10/17/2007 9:25:13 AM | I am sure if Angel reads this forum again, she will appreciate the things the posters above have written to advise her. I know her personally. She is beautiful inside as well as out. Most abusive men look for someone with the same traits she has, as I know her to be very sweet and a kind person, and she is intelligent, but caring too. Often these qualities are mistaken for a woman being vulnerable or later easily controlled. Again, Angel broke up with this man BEFORE he had the opportunity to abuse her. She demonstrated some strength there. I do know she is having a hard time with recognizing the differences in the man he 'seemed to be', as she says, and the 'man he really IS', based on his record both past and present that he hid from her and others.
BTW, there was an error in something said in a previous post, that 'most of these guys are goodlooking, and the girl isn't'...don't know where someone could ever come up with that hilarious 'fact', but it is actually quite untrue. Just as often it is the opposite, and /or the woman is just as 'good looking'. These fellas with NPD LIKE IT when they have a beautiful woman on their arm who 'adores' them. To them it is another way of 'proving' how 'special THEY are!!!
I know Angel in person. Trust me on this, she is GORGEOUS, inside and out. She is everything most men would ever want in a woman. Totally classy and a living doll with a great personality. It amazes me how much judgement of HER that there is! ANYONE can fall under the spell of someone with narcissitic/sociopathic tendancies, and find this out too late. They are VERY convincing. This is NOT about wether "Angel" is 'crazy, lying, or stupid, nor is it a 'beauty contest' or about HER worth as a person, it is about the characteristics of someone who is abusive, and their ability to hide their true selves and their past.
I am really glad to see that there are men though who are willing to be protective and advise a woman in this type of situation. That shows character strength in them, even if they don't know all the realities of abuse. At least they are trying to help the woman, which is the way a REAL MAN would act. So thanks to all the guys here who have tried to help her and offer their support. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 10:05:56 AM | Neophyte..BRAVO to both posts!
And yes, Angel IS stunningly beautiful...and I imagine she has attracted this type of personality before. When I wrote her back I asked her if she had encountered this type before and how did it culminate. Also...The women I know who have lived through this are all very attractive.
I have studied NPD for a looooong time, and one of their "traits" IS going for the very attractive women. I am NOT speaking of sociopathic/"redneck abusers" here....an NPD type is (usually) VERY smart, charming, clever, engaging, suave, etc.
Their "abuse" almost ALWAYS starts with diminishing others who are close. Even their own children. Constant, little, subtle put-downs. Sometimes difficult to nail down. They eat away at the self-esteem of the other...it is when the victim attempts to fight back, or escape, that they may accelerate into a more threatening pattern.Actually become physically dangerous.
And some of the ignorance on this thread baffles the mind.
All of you please read the ongoing thread "Anyone Ever Dated a Narcissist?"....a lot of repeat testimonials from victims of "these types". Ya just might learn something.
And ignore the Troll-guy...just here to stir the pot. Not worth commentary..trolls disappear when ignored.
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| Finding Out Your Wonderful BF has a Record and a Dark Side
Posted: 10/17/2007 10:47:08 AM | the real Jeckyl/hyde thing is what kept me baffled for years. He complained whenever his kids would annouce they were coming for a visit. Not to them....to me....he dramatized the pressure and their 'needy' ways....then when they would get here, he'd shower them with attention and money....and then when they left and he couldn't pay his rent...right back to the ranting and caring on about how he hated when they came for a visit. It was their fault he couldn't pay his rent.
I believe he got out of his leased apartment by telling them he had a ex that was stalking him (all the while it was to run off with now wife)....that makes sense to me now because he gave some excuse he couldn't talk to me for "legal reasons" I'm sure he went to court over it all and used that as an excuse.....and his wife's ex partner when we talked she told me that he had told her I was stalking him.....I only wish I had been, I would have learned ALOT!!!
At first I believed it was perhaps bi-polar...and still could be....
His tantrums he blamed on "sugar levels"....even his kids would ask "has he eaten?"....and anything he said or did when angry was shoved under the rug...if he hadn't 'eaten'
All I know is when he decided he was 'done' with me....he coldly and calculatingly worked his business to make me look crazy..insane...and bad....and he worked his business in a cunning, cruel deceitful manner. I saw this type of action being done by him to others....and when he turned on me....I just couldn't accept what he was doing...I've been told that he read to his now wife and laughed at my first e-mails to him when he disappeared. Remember now....right up til the day he disappeared, he was making my lunch, walking me to work and telling me "he loved me with all his heart"..........what kind of a human does that????? A sick one, that's what kind. I am surprised he didn't just poison that last sandwhich he made me.....I'll bet he thought about it. For some odd reason that day....I didn't eat it...so we will never know!! | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 11:05:55 AM | I read Angel's original post and all the posts after.... It seems everyone is truly concerned about the correct things and gave excellent advice concerning her safety, the safety of the children, his abuse (probably Bipolar or something...) BUT NOWHERE DID I READ ABOUT ANGEL'S OWN FEELINGS....HER SANITY....THE STATE OF HER HEART.
Angel, from my own experience, time does indeed heal all wounds. Just remember it's always darkest before the dawn and that you should seek with all your heart the measure of kindness and goodness that is rightfully yours...you deserve that!!! Don't sell yourself short--be patient, hold your head up high and remember you always reap what you sow (karma). You planted good seeds....you will reap a harvest!!! He planted deception and anger...he will reap the same!
I relate well to music and suggest Kelly Clarkson's "WALK AWAY"......listen up mi amiga. I hope that this helps--somehow.
Good luck and God bless!!
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| Finding Out Your Wonderful BF has a Record and a Dark Side
Posted: 10/17/2007 11:16:27 AM | | Corkmale27, Ususally I try to be intelligent when posting, but this time...WTF are you talking about????? They "want a shag"??? Angel shouldn't be on the site!!! Give your head a shake. My best GF. has been my friend since we were 12! I see her usually 2 to 3 times a week and talk or e-mail every day. Where do you live? Peyton Place???? | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 1:52:04 PM | OP/Angel
Sorry for going on and on over my own 'ordeal'.......it is just that I've had such an
"awakening" the last few days...and for me it is just unbelievable!!
YOU, take good care.....read and utilize all the posts that help and just ignore the 'ignorant'.....
It really is (even for me) hard to believe this sort of thing...UNLESS you've actually been in the middle as you and I have!! I don't consider myself stupid...but, my big heart sure can be!! LOL Take good care!! | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 2:24:27 PM | I read the most recent posts here. I am going to talk to 'Angel' tonight and plan to pass along some of the info, IF she wants to hear it. She cancelled her profile here because of some of the things that RPBurns fella was saying. Definately he was off base and had nothing to say that would help her. I know she wants to keep in touch with some of you, but right now she has friends here and she is keeping very busy. She is going to be fine.
As for the poster above who says he "calls Shenanigans", I mean...would someone please tell me where these boneheads come from?!!!! OMG. He posted just to say he doesn't believe the story. Either he is yet another NPD, a sociopath, or abusive person, and/or is best buddies with RPBurns, or good ole RP HIMSELF with yet ANOTHER one of his multiple personalities...lol Calling "Shenanigans" on 'Angel'...for what pray tell? And WHAT EXACTLY happens when someone 'calls Shenanigans'? Do viscious little elves appear and smack you with a four leaf clover or something. PLEASE!!!...
Domestic Violence is a serious subject. When a man beats another man, it is called "Assault and Battery"...what is it called when a man beats a woman? Only another person with the mentality to perpetuate abuse would call it OKAY!!!! | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 3:18:08 PM | An Original:
^^^^^^^as in what? The south end of north bound horse??? I don't recall OP saying "her version of the events" was for sale. Leave the posts to those wanting to help one another...I'm sure there is a thread more to your liking....like "when AN ORIGINAL turns out to be a FAKE and of no value?" | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 4:51:00 PM | Man, I don't know where to start, so I guess I'll keep it brief lest I ramble on and on. Angel sounds like a person who needed love, help, and support, and she got it here. Where is the harm in that? What possible reason could anyone have for objecting to that or dissing those who came to the aid of a fellow POFer? More to the point, a fellow human being in distress? Given that we know Angel met her NPD 'ex' here on POF, how do we know that the individual slamming her isn't the same guy? Seems to me he's awfully quick to accuse her of making stuff up and having false profiles; perhaps he comes at those thoughts from his own actions?
Secondly, did or did Angel not go back with this nitwit NPD? I can't tell from reading the string, although it seems that some imply this is the case. If so, please tell me that someone's keeping a close eye on her and her situation? Since she left the site the rest of us can't, so those of you who know her personally, can you keep us posted, too?
Oh, before I forget, it's probably safe to say from his posts that Robbie doesn't have a law enforcement background, although he sure wants to sound like an expert on such matters. I do have that background, and his statements about 'attempted murder' and 'detectives don't call' and so on aren't necessarily correct; I can see a police agency handling the situation exactly as Angel describes... | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 5:16:21 PM | Amazing, this is very similar to what just happened to me and I almost thought we were with the same man, when I read this. It's very difficult to find out something like this. In my relationship, even from the beginning I had serious trust issues...just never could put my finger on it, but all the things he told me he wanted for "us" just never seemed to happen and there seemed to be huge extremes over the past 10 years in his life. He would go on and on about how he never had lied to me and how I had to trust him..his #1 rule was never to lie to each other...how does that old saying go..."me thinks thy doth protest to much..."?
I didn't find out about his time in a fed. prison til recently because he didn't want me to hear it from one of his family members...that same weekend he told me about his prison time, he told me he also wanted to tell me about his last girlfriend, because she might stop by while I'm over and he wanted to prepair me for it...and she still cares for him, and she would be upset that I was there...WTF!
I could go on and on and none of it really matters. Something happened a few weekends ago and he's deciding if I deserve to be in his life and how we should go on...just friends or more. I need to end it with him for once and all...when I made up a pro/con list...no pun intended...the cons...far outweighed the pros...he only ever can see things from his point and always makes me feel as if I'm at wrong and weak and jealous, which he says is the basis for all our problems....my jealousy.
I don't know how this happened to me...how I became so involved with him, while not trusting him and knowing in my heart he is a man who isn't worthy of my trust and love. At first he really seemed to be the perfect man for me...everything I had been looking for and wanted in one.
You have to be strong Bunny...I understand how difficult it is and how easy it is to want to be with him and for me, hate the thought that someone else will come along and be in his arms and bed....BUT THEY DON'T CHANGE...EVER and we can't think, we can be the one to make them change or they will for us....but thats why things went wrong for them, because they don't think the rules apply to them....that they can get around it, and us and everything...
It takes time and it really hurts, but in your case you could be physically harmed and is that worth it?
Thats the real question because you don't know when it's coming or why, and thats no way to live. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 5:17:30 PM | Man, I don't know where to start, so I guess I'll keep it brief lest I ramble on and on. Angel sounds like a person who needed love, help, and support, and she got it here. Where is the harm in that? What possible reason could anyone have for objecting to that or dissing those who came to the aid of a fellow POFer? More to the point, a fellow human being in distress? Given that we know Angel met her NPD 'ex' here on POF, how do we know that the individual slamming her isn't the same guy? Seems to me he's awfully quick to accuse her of making stuff up and having false profiles; perhaps he comes at those thoughts from his own actions?
Well.."rescue"..you made MY "Favorites List"! Congrats!!! Not many do!
I think she has good friends both locally, and from over a year, on here , as well as family and local orgs to help her sort out this and support her.
I have,, in the past, had connections with a few women who were pulled in and very abused by men they met on this venue...alful stories. Interestingly, most were VERY trusting and somewhat naive . And later...VERY embarrassed and humiliated. Reticent to share their stories.
Interestingly...MOST situations as this are Women victimized by Men. These NPD types are 90% Men...should we then then bash ALL men? Didn't think so.
And even more interesting...Men who have experienced this are JUST as reticent to admit it. Go figure.
I feel (esp from hearing from her) "Angel" will survive this...and her radar will be "The Bomb"!
She is , person by person. learning lessons galore. She is very attractive, and therefore will have to up her filtration process.....sadly, necessary these days. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 5:33:30 PM | Hi Rescueranger,
To all your points...WELL SAID 
I talked with Angel about 6 pm. tonight. She is doing great! She is intelligent and really doing her research on NPD. I wish I had known as much when in my circumstances, but she is handling the "person" the way the experts say to, to keep herself safe. She is in her own place and safe. I don't want to say too much, because as you pointed out, this guy could be anyone even on here. What creeps they REALLY are. My god, we can't even say what the whole truth is because they are so cunning and sneaky and we might jeopardize Angel's safety.
Again I'll say..THEY SHOULD ALL HAVE WEAR BIG SIGNS THAT SAY, "NARCISSIST--BEWARE"...then we should be able to shoot them..lol.
Just adding some humor. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 6:15:11 PM | I think I have met your ex before, my advice. Buy a stun-gun and work out at the gym
with weights, alot. Thats for now and for the future. Then completely disconnect, new phone number, and if necessary new address or a buy a surveillance system for your home. Sounds like you may need it someday. And for the comment he made about losing 15lbs really quick, my reply would have been : Ill be 190 lbs lighter when i get rid of you!! thats not Love .. move on. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 6:39:24 PM | That's the key!! No matter who they hook up with after you...totally rich...totally gorgeous...totally into him...totally naive and willing......
It doesn't matter!! They will show their ugly abusive dishonest ridiculously shallow selfish self!! They will!! You weren't his first victim, you won't be his last....no matter what you do.....nothing will change...every promise WILL be broken....the deeper the hole you crawl in...the deeper the hole you have to crawl out of!! Be careful...be brave....be smart!! be strong!! | |
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