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Posted: 10/15/2007 8:31:07 PM | | First of all, basic astrology just gives generalizations of the signs. It all depends on your time, date, and place of birth. Some people are born on the cusp of two signs and have traits of both. I definitely believe in compatibility based on astrology, as it has been proven correct in every relationship I have had, from family members, boyfriends, and my ex-husband. I will not even consider dating signs I am not compatible with because I know I would be bored to death or they would be too sensitive, moody, or too controlling. Of course if they were born in-between a compatible sign and an incompatible sign I might consider them. Atrology is a very deep subject, and is more than just a daily horoscope. It is true that opposites attract but then they will repel one another later when they really get to know each other. You are what you are born to be, and you cannot change that. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2007 8:35:08 PM | | Geminis and Capricorns do not go together. You are exact opposites. Run fast. Opposties attract initially, but repel one another later. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2007 8:47:59 PM | | I dated a Sagittarius for a long time in school. He drank too much and was mean. He was not a very tender person. But he was a jock and football player, and attractive, so what the hell. Would never have worked for a marriage or long term. He has now been married three times. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2007 8:53:56 PM | The best match for everyone is someone about 6 months from their birthday.
Birthday turns out to be surprisingly important and the very KEY to the mystery of human nature because it is a mathematically profound index of systematic differences in the developing infant's first year's environment with respect to the sun when its central neural control network is developing its patterns of neural integration. Humans have evolved to respond to birthday with various ways of integrating neural systems as a way of increasing the variety of ways of humans dealing with situtations.
Birthday is important because the sun is important. Moreover, as important as the sun is, birthday is nearly so important! My hope is we replace astrology with a scientific approach to birthday.
The reason birthday is a mathematically profound index: it amounts to one of the 3 dimensions, called "phase" ---starting point---, of the huge annual sine cycle of daily solar energy flow to our temperate zone, varying from about 200 calories per square centimeter per day in late December to 800 or more in late June. Birthday is important not because of what happens on the day of birth, but because birthday serves as an index of systematic differnces in the developing infant's environment humans have evolved to respond to with systematic differences in neural organization. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2007 10:15:29 PM | This would only work if there weren't equatorial opposites to muck up the theory. If your theory held true, if you met someone from the other equatorial region, your best match would be someone with about the same birthday as yourself... not a six months difference.
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Posted: 10/16/2007 7:57:26 AM | I agree with Bluezz that if, as I claim, seasonal factors are what make the sun signs work, then if one were to match up with someone born in the opposite Temperate Zone, instead of seeking someone 6 months from your birthday you would want someone of the same birthday. Having been observing birthday traits for 40 years I have paid special attention to the traits of those born in the Southern Temperate Zone and it does seem that it is the case that there is a 6 month shift of traits across the equator.
But alas, if you actually look at a map of the world, in the Southern Temperate Zone
there is surprisingly little land mass: in South America only Chile and some of the bottom of Argentina, in Africa only the bottom tip of South Africa, in Australia only the bottom third. So the generalizations about human traits from the Zodiac sun signs which apply to those born in the Northern Temperate Zone have not suffered much contradiction over the centuries from those born in the Southern Temperate Zone.
The other issue is how much application of the generalizations of the sun sign traits apply to Equatorial zones. Again, from observations over the years, it does appear there are different birthday traits in the Equatorial regions. | |
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Posted: 10/16/2007 8:29:27 AM | suzalawinkles,
I admit to having liked the horoscope approach in searching for a partner on POF. Truth be known, I used it in part to weed through potentials... But, in the end, this taurus found herself an aquarius... which is not a match as per our birth years (chinese astrology) or sun signs...and is very happy with him. Also of note is that fact that in the beginning I had him placed quite clearly in the 'friend' category. The 'smart' ones or maybe just the 'right' ones can find their way out of that category... as long as you are not holding firm to any particular playbook. trust yourself... | |
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Posted: 10/16/2007 9:18:58 AM | To Piknick in msg #31:
Scorpiomover - you missed "Capricorn" in your response to the "signs" - that's my boyfriend's. Could you put that one in? I'm curious what is said about them. Thanks OK, just for you.
Capricorn: Very practical when it comes to dating.Seems to make the sensible approach. Hardly ever loses their temper, but when they do, it's like being inside a volcano. Kind of simmering. Never seem to flirt, but you know it's there, saved for behind closed doors. 
Always wanted to date one, but I never seem to connect.
Please be aware that I stopped using books years ago, as books would contradict each other, and people often had some traits and not others. I go by what I know of people.
To regalrose in msg #34:
OCTOBER = HOTTIE
Trustworthy and loyal. Very passionate and dangerous. Wild at times. Knows how to have fun.
Sexy and mysterious. Everyone is drawn towards your inner and outer beauty and independent personality. Playful, but secretive. Very emotional and temperamental sometimes. Meets new people easily and very social in a group. Fearless and
independent. Can hold their own. Stands out in a crowd. Essentially very smart. Usually, you ever begin a relationship with someone from this month, hold on to them because their one of a kind. 
This is what my friends say about me. However, it is hard getting women to realise it. It is just as hard getting women who do realise it, to take me off a pedestal. It's like taking a ride in the Thrust 2, which goes at 600mph, when you're just used to Ford Escorts, BMWs, and Porches. It takes ages to get out of the city, but once we're out of the city, NY to Chicago takes under an hour and a half. I'm real awkward starting to talk to someone I like, but once the conversation is flowing, I'll take you out and show you the beauty of a single raindrop sitting on a leaf, or how utterly stunning your mouth looks when you laugh.
To BrAt_FaCe in msg #50:
i think zodiac signs tell alot about someones personality traits and i know who to stay away from now lol Scorpios either love you 100% or not at all. Way we're built. Great for mind-blowing sex. No good for a so-so relationship. Custom built for being the "love of your life". Just make sure he cares a little bit. If he has genuine concern for you, then his love is like the Titanic, 7/8 below the surface, just waiting for an opportunity to show it and you off. Never tell him to do something stupid, like to beat a guy up who was bothering you. The woman that a Scorpio loves is his heart, quite literally. She is his energy, and his life. He'll break the guy in 2. The guy can be 7 feet tall, and built like Tyson. He'll destroy the guy, because his "life" is at risk. Scorpios are indomitable. Their motto is:
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Posted: 10/16/2007 10:53:54 AM | Birthday turns out to be surprisingly important for relationships because it denotes systematic differences in neural organization resulting from birthday's being a mathematically profound index of each developing infant's first year's environment with respect to the sun when its central neural control network is developing its permanent patterns of neural integration. Humans have evolved to respond to birthday with a circular variety of ways of integrating neural systems as a way of increasing the variety of ways of humans dealing with situtations.
Birthday is important because the sun is important. Moreover, as important as the sun is, ---and that's a lot!---birthday is nearly so important! My hope is we replace astrology with a scientific approach to birthday, but sun sign generalizations do work.
The key to the best relationships, I urge, is birthdays 6 months apart, what astrology calls complementary signs. But astrology wont leave it at that, and I suggest we do. With birthdays 6 months apart there is a natural, spontaneous appreciation of each other's point of view, instinctive emotional support for the other's ways of being.
If you must refine further, I propose not attention to the astrologer's charts, but attention to the birthdays of the parents, like the couples having parents with birthdays the same or 6 months from their own parents, something astrology pays no attention to.
Birthdays 3 months apart is the worst case, maximum aggravation and conflict.
The reason birthday is a mathematically profound index: it amounts to one of the 3 dimensions, called "phase" ---starting point---, of the huge annual sine cycle of daily solar energy flow to our temperate zone, varying from about 200 calories per square centimeter per day in late December to 800 or more in late June. Birthday is important not because of what happens on the day of birth, but because birthday serves as an index of systematic differences in the developing infant's environment that humans have evolved to respond to with systematic differences in neural organization, personality, character, sense of timing, humor, etc. | |
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Posted: 10/16/2007 9:57:16 PM | Capricorn: Very practical when it comes to dating.Seems to make the sensible approach. Hardly ever loses their temper, but when they do, it's like being inside a volcano. Kind of simmering. Never seem to flirt, but you know it's there, saved for behind closed doors.
Always wanted to date one, but I never seem to connect.
scorpiomover.......I am also a Scorpio and have often wondered if a Capricorn would be a good match for me? Alas, I have never met a Capricorn to date either. 
So, what sign do you think Scorpio best matches up with? Is the rising and moon signs really that important?
If it is .... My sun is Scorpio, Rising is Virgo, Moon is Capricorn. Or is my combo too messed up ????  | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 2:17:39 AM | I am a Leo, and I have not found anyone compatible for me yet. I've met a few Aries, Sagittarious, and Geminis, but none of them were right for me. Also a Virgo, but he was too critical.
I am wondering myself about what sign would be a good match as well.. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 2:33:30 AM | | I am not sure about signs, because I am on the cusp since I was born on October 23rd (Libra/Scorpio cusp). I am dating a sagittarius who is the best person I've ever dated so far. I have no idea since your regular signs are more generic. I think there is more to a person than a sign. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 3:11:12 AM | | well i do believe in being compatable and in past have looked to much at signs and if there matched ,but maybe thats because i know i am so like my star sign apart from i am faithful to who i love that bit they got wrong ,now i try not to read theres and mine every day as thats too much thinking and learn to go with the flow ,xx | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 4:48:59 AM | | Yes I believe in astrology and its role in relationships. Of course I had to go through endless women to realize that certain signs I'm compatible with and other signs can not get along with mine romantically. I've met so many women with the non-compatible signs and I wouldn't even given things a chance, I would shut down communications immediately and search for signs I'm more romantically compatible with. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 8:22:51 AM | > Several women on POF have suddenly become much less interesting.
You said it, Murf.
Astrology is based on where the sun was with respect to the background stars over two thousand years ago. Precession of the equinoxes, being an approximately 26,000 year cycle, means the sun is now approximately one whole 'sign' off from where most people think it is. The sun also 'spends' some 20 days in the constellation Ophiuchus, but there's no thirteenth sign.
In other words, astrology is divorced from actual observable reality, and people who think they 'are' an X are really a Y. They are both gullible and self-deluded. Even if they have a book or bogus chart to back their misbelief up. Talk about the blind leading the blind.
The signs and constellations themselves are merely convenient Rorschach projections to begin with and have no physical reality to begin with because the stars are at all different directions. Back when the Greek astronomer Hipparchus discovered the precession of the equinoxes, people thought all the stars were at the same distance, that being the distance of the celestial sphere they thought the earth was at the center of. Astrology is a relic of a geocentric model of the universe which was discarded four hundred years ago.
It's most decidedly not a good sign (ha, ha - pun intended) that horoscopes are still a staple of women's magazines. It's like Barbie said... "math and science are sooooo hard!" | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 8:40:26 AM |
It's most decidedly not a good sign (ha, ha - pun intended) that horoscopes are still a staple of women's magazines. It's like Barbie said... "math and science are sooooo hard!" A very sensible answer. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 8:55:11 AM | NO DON"T WORK! Don't believe it!
I am Capricorn, I was married to a Libra... Worst 13 years of my entire life.
Astology has nothing to do with successful relationships.
Either that or my Ex didn't read her part of it and go, "Oh this is what I am supposed to be like."
She was bad about that.
I've meet several others that Astrology says would be a good match and squat..
I am wondering if maybe I should meet some that Astrology says would be the match made in hades. LOL | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 9:14:42 AM | Oh.. you are soooooo right! I have always been interested in astrology for entertainment purposes. I don't live my daily life according to my reading, but find it amusing to read it after the fact to see if any of it was true.
I have been dating a Gemini- the initial attraction was great...but as you said, we did not go together. Lesson learned there. The personality matched his reading, and I am a true Capricorn. Talk about a bad match. I am currently seeing a Virgo, which seems to be the best choice for me, and always has been. You can dispute the validity of astrology all you want, but in the end, there is living proof that there is some truth to it!
Just my opinion, though. To each his own. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 9:17:42 AM | | Sorry folks. I was replying to the guy who said caps and geminis are a bad match..guess I forgot to add his post to my reply so it was aimed at the righjt person...anyway..you know who u r..lol my bad | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 10:56:40 AM | > there is living proof that there is some truth to it!
Only in the sense that if a kid grows up hearing mom tell him/her that he/she is an X, and therefore possesses characteristics A, B, and C, then he/she might end up emphasizing those characteristics because a child typically wants the love of its mother above all else. What this demonstrates is that parental programing works, nothing else.
Of course if you're looking for the reason why a relationship broke up (or not), astrology is about as good a reason as anything else. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 10:56:45 AM | Please. Human brains are meant to find meaning in the meaningless. It's simply what we're very good at.
So of course, if your horoscope says "You will have a financial windfall!", you'll sit there scrutinizing your day wondering what it meant until... "OMG, I FOUND A PENNY WALKING TO THE CAR! ZOMG WINDFALL! ASTROLOGY WORKZAZFASFSA!!!!".
Suckers. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 11:08:39 AM | Of course if you're looking for the reason why a relationship broke up (or not), astrology is about as good a reason as anything else.
Ok..if thats what you read into it. My point was, he is who he is, and I am who I am. We didn't mesh because of the vast differences in our personalities. It happens, astrology or not. I just find it odd that his reading and mine discribed us both to a tee.
Had I been a hard core astrology buff, I never would have tried with him at all. The fact that I am dating a Virgo now? Pure coincidence. Shall we debate the validity of coincidence vs. destiny this time? | |
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Posted: 10/17/2007 11:12:10 AM | There is no such thing as destiny, and your god is dead.
In addition, I was not even replying to your most recent post here. | |
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