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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 1:27:12 PM | "jamesweld22" (message 45) ...the first part of your post does not apply to me ... I have not lost my friend base and am not feeling a loss of youth.
My dislike for the BA-BOOM is based mostly on the fact that it is so very offensive to the environment of others ... ie those listening are making no effort to be considerate of others. It actually appears to be a form of bullyism ... people imposing their way on others. Others just have to like it or lump it ... they are forced to listen whether they like it or not, their homes are totally invaded even though their doors are locked and their windows are closed.
The same is going on while sitting / waiting for a mere traffic light to change. We can put up our car windows and turn on the AC if it's too hot, lock our doors to keep others out, but that does not stop these people from total invasion ... deafening whatever it is we may be listening to on our radio or even preventing us from having a conversation with a loved one in the car.
The kids with these high-power systems are thinking they are invulnerable and free to do what they want. They also are probably bad in Physics thinking the sound can't be heard beyond a certain radius of the car ... I would beg to differ with that. They know exactly that it can be heard blocks away ... they honestly don't care if it bothers others.
Another issue here is the danger of confronting these people. I know people at work who have told me that they fear for their lives when considering asking those people to turn down the volume.
One man told me that he was at the gas station peacefully pumping gas and one of those cars pulled in right behind him. The guys in the car just sat there for a while just listening to their BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM, not making any effort to get out and pump the gas. Finally, one exited the car and went in to apparently prepay for the gas, the car engine was shut off, but the BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM continued.
The man said he stepped back to the car and asked them to please turn it down or even off while in such close proximity of others ... who could not get away from it ... and was threatened with bodily harm by the occupant of the car. I'm not saying all people who listen to that stuff are like that, but how many here would feel comfortable confronting someone blaring that stuff to turn it down? I'd wager ... hardly anyone.
It's safer to let them bully us into listening to it ... right? | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 1:43:13 PM | Hum..............If I ask someone to turn down the volume of their child, would they threaten me with bodily harm. OMG can you just see their faces
Not picking on you OP. This is a good topic. It shows me what one person considers completely normal another has a problem with.
What I don't understand is when a noisy car is driving it goes away within a few seconds? Are you close OP to a constant traffic jam area?
Sure I hear folks go by with their BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM but it last 1/2 a second and they are gone. Now I do live in the country, and the Canada Geese make more noise than the BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM each morning and evening as they go down to the main pond, and back again before dusk. My poor dog runs through the house eyes trained on the ceiling as if he can see as well as hear them. It is too funny. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 2:10:26 PM | | Asking someone to turn their music down can be very difficult, You don't know what their response will be. why is the music loud in the first place. Are they deaf? Are they annoyed with authority? Bullies? Just having a good time and don't want to consider others. Try telling a mother her child is too loud,i'd rather ask the kids to turn down their music. A women scorned is one thing but a mother? Just ask for a quick death. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 2:13:45 PM | Hi Suecat
The windows in their car will never blow out. They proved this on Mythbusters. Their eardrums are another thing or they could end up with tinnitis (ringing in the ears sometimes forever) | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 2:31:20 PM | "jamesweld22" ...
... why is the music loud in the first place. Are they deaf? Are they annoyed with authority? Bullies? Just having a good time and don't want to consider others. Perhaps you have not read all the comments that have led up to this point in the thread, otherwise I doubt you would be asking "WHY" is the music loud in the first place?
While I certainly understand the annoyance of screaming babies / children ... I still maintain that kind of the noise does not cause anyone's rear view mirror / steering wheel to vibrate, does not cause the dishes in your cupboards to rattle or walk your coffee mug across the doggone counter top.
This is a good topic. It shows me what one person considers completely normal another has a problem with. The kind of music you, "moraima" are describing is not the kind of stuff that I am talking about that drives by my home / that often pulls up next to me while I'm stuck in rush-hour traffic. I can tolerate loud music, no matter what type ... all I have to do is either "rock" with it or put up my car window / shut my doors and windows. We all know that what I am describing is not something one can simply "shut" out by shutting a window or door.
Trust me ... I am quite capable of producing EXTREMELY loud music with the professional equipment I have here ... it's designed to fill entire restaurants with music ... I can crank it up (if necessary) to deafening loudness.
I suppose the difference here is that unlike others in my area, I see no need to impose that on my neighbors ... not even when I'm practicing for a performance ... testing the equipment for volume purposes with different songs I do. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 2:44:13 PM | No, you're not too intolerant.
I was taught that citizens in a civil society are to be considerate of others. The result is I expect the same. I therefore, strongly resent the excess noise imposed on me by ridiculous and inconsiderate louts who subject others to the excessive noise of car (and home) sound-systems. This is especially egregious in parks and wilderness camping areas. Other (expletive deleted) include people who: Have raspy or disabled car and bike mufflers (and I like fast, powerful cars), Unprofessional "Truckers" who use engine brakes in populated areas at all hours, and "Parents" who let their screeching yard-apes run wild in (non-McD's type) restaurants.
I sometimes image a boom-boom-BOOM as someone, who has exceeded their tolerance, finally detonates the offending car. Then I try to let-go of the rage so I don't let the inconsiderate mouth-breathers spoil my peace, despite spoiling my quiet. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 2:53:07 PM | I don't get as bothered by the mobile boom boxe's as I do by those stupid 100 cc motorbikes that are 50 times louder than any superbike yet take ten minutes to go past my house because they go so slow and all the time I can't hear a single word on the telly.
I can't understand how the driver doesn't feel embarrassed to be making so much noise and drawing attention to themselves on such a pathetic machine. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 4:45:56 PM | OP why is rock ok but not the music of the young of today? Not picking on OP. I really can't understand why quite a few people in the real world get upset when it is beats per minute music yet play their types of music that I don't like just as loud as young people.
After reading some of the posts, I think some folks would prefer a complete noise ban in their communities just like it used to be in libraries. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 5:53:32 PM |
... why is rock ok but not the music of the young of today? That's a good question "moraima" ... because I have nothing against any type of music UNLESS it is forced on me against my will ... as in the type of stuff I refer to here in the Original Post. I just want that choice. I want the choice to listen at the volume of my choice as well.
I can be very tolerant of the music that is offending me if I had the choice to determine at what volume I get to hear it. If it's in the background (as I have heard it when my own son played it a few years ago), not a problem. He used to play it in his room all the time, but he respected me (as I did him when I played my music) and neither of us ever forced loud unwanted music on each other.
I sometimes work in a med room where the other nurses are listening to that music, but it is not so loud that it vibrates my medication cart ... it does not cause the medication bottles on top of the cart to "walk across it", it's not loud enough to "wake the dead". I also have the option to work on my medication cart elsewhere if it really gets to me.
I just do not want to be "bullied" into listening to any music that I don't have a choice at what volume I get to listen
I really can't understand why quite a few people in the real world get upset when it is beats per minute music ... I don't know what type of music you are speaking of ... could you tell me where I can go to hear it so that I know what you speak of?
... yet play their types of music that I don't like just as loud as young people. Personally, I have never heard "rock & roll", "country", "smooth jazz", "reggae", "calypso", etc. ... ever played through the BA-BOOM audio systems, so I honestly can't imagine how that would sound. At any rate ... if people are playing it ... are "bullying" you into listening, then it's not right. If you have no choice at what volume the music is being played / you have no possible escape as in "trapped in traffic" / you are trapped in the house with the doors and windows shut ... and you still have to listen, then it's not right.
I have no clue what the name of the noise is that they play through those audio systems ... what is it called?
After reading some of the posts, I think some folks would prefer a complete noise ban in their communities just like it used to be in libraries. I think that's a fair assessment ... and I would be fully in favor of it ... most especially in areas where homes are located in very close proximity of each other.
Not all of us can live in the country side ... so why can't we be allowed to live in peace and quiet too? | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 7:14:10 PM | Perhaps when it comes to tolerating someones behavior, it's important to understand the source of the behavior. For example, if you leave something where a 3 year old can reach it, it's not the 3 year olds fault if they reach it and break it.
The same is true of Ghetto Buster Rice Rockets. The drivers of these technological garbage cans are generally so retarded that it's difficult to blame them because their mothers smoke and drank during pregnancy. Not to mention the lead in candy from Mexico...or at least in the wrappers.
The world will always have a measure of seriously retarded people that are allowed to drive automobiles. That's why we avoid many areas that are more crime ridden than other areas. Retardation crosses all ethnic boundaries. A retarded white kid is just as likely to listen to RAP music as a black or hispanic youth that has similar brain damage from prenatal oxygen deprivation.
The real problem is solved by better prenatal care and parents that are older than 13. Unfortunately, the extreme numbers of children having children is not likely to change anytime soon, as sex is a recreational activity that any idiot can partake in. vis-a-vis Ghetto Buster Rice Rockets!
And that's all I have to say about that.......  | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 7:42:48 PM | Rock music can cause BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM. Rap, Alternative, Raggaton - the list goes on.
I want to know if people have to treat the world the same as a library quiet zone, how are they going to keep the children, vehicles, planes overhead etc. quiet? | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 7:56:49 PM | | well cotter here is what i do when that happens to me...i got a new car that has bosse system in it...i put in my nickleback....crank it up and pull up beside them lol...next thing i know they either ignore me, leave or roll up their windows lol...give it a try it's so satisfying lol | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/14/2007 8:13:07 PM | | You'll regret the watt for watt response later in life. If you crank it up, now you're disturbing others and damaging you're own ears | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/15/2007 4:37:07 PM |
Would/do all of you folk who get annoyed by BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM, be as annoyed if it was pop/rock/country being played?
I live in Texas. Many times it is country music going BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM. It isn't the type of music being played. It is the sheer volume of it.
It feels so good being in a zone
I don't believe you have to blow out other people's ear drums to get into the "zone". I can get there quite nicely and not offend the people in their homes 2 or 3 blocks away. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/15/2007 4:55:55 PM | "because I have nothing against any type of music UNLESS it is forced on me against my will ... "
Every time each of us goes outside we are forced to listen to the musical choice of one of our neighbours. Some of us have neighbours who crank their music loud enough for us to hear it in doors. The a lots of noise caused by other that we must endure in our home. It certainly isn't just ba boom music - it is all type of music. Yes, my latin music can vibrate things just as rock music can. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/16/2007 5:07:18 AM | | YOU ARE NOT ALONE>> when it pulls up in front of my home, parks and begins its attempt at a long nite of loitering, i CALL THE DAMM COPS. who always come, and who have often arrested the aformentioned malcontents for various parole/probation violations, gun charges, and or drug posession, one time they got real lucky and tripped over this guy who decided to park in front of my house and also had a federal warrant out for his arrest. it was like christmas to the cops! | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/16/2007 5:18:57 AM | DO you remember being a teenager or even in your twenties with rock 'n' roll or even Hard Rock blaring on your radio
as a matter of fact, yes we all hear ourselves, ( as much as we can when its typing and reading)
but the point remains,, what you called blaring is no way even coming close to this window shakin, glass shattering, eardrum destroying crap. this is assualt in the most subliminal. the ones that really drive me mad are the ones who blast this shit with their kids in the car with them and then wonder why the kid doesnt seem to hear the parent when the parent speaks,,, can you say DUH! their tiny little eardrums are damaged and there is hearing loss, i would bet my life on it!
Those kids will outgrow listening to that stuff so loud and soon start complaining about the next generation.
u r right about that, each generation gets more and worse and louder and more profane and more and more and more, and none of its good. instead of tollerating annoying rude inconsiderate behavior, why not expect more from them? demand more of them. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/16/2007 7:53:37 AM | I've mixed sound for concerts since high school and have known when sound gets too loud, it damages your ears. I have a meter that measures sound and know the human ear is not capable of judging how loud things are, so I use the meters.
The meters are cheap and by gathering data on when the noise shows up and how loud it is inside and out, one can approach the local governments, media and/or health groups with evidence of damaging volumes of sound.
I helped a group organize passing an ordinance in the town I lived in the 70s we bought 10 sound level meters for the local police and within a few weeks, no more noise.
As a musician, I've always observed that it's mostly players that don't play well that have to turn it up.
But loud volume does have it's place:
You don't have to converse with someone, they can't hear you.
You can get the appreciation you deserve for putting the effort into looking hot. since people can't talk, the visuals take precedence over anything you could say.
Loud noisy sounds stimulate the thalamus the same as fear, anxiousness, and sex.
If you don't like your date, turn it up and make them shut up.
If you don't like that guy hitting on the girl you wanted to hit on, turn it up so they can't talk until she comes to you. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/16/2007 8:51:22 AM | We're talking about stuff so loud it will walk your coffee cup across the counter ... coming from the outside of your house
Ok ...here is another lesson in physics and audio information....... its not really loud that is doing that .... its is called sympathetic vibration .... the bass drivers are using a lot of power ...yes ... but it is the low frequencies that are able to penetrate material like glass and walls etc. and vibrate things causing sympathetic vibrations that will cause them to walk or shattert etc... It has to do with the density of the material that are affected too.
This is actually an attempt to feel the music physically and not just hear it.
like I said before though ... it seems to be a passing fad in the Toronto area ....
there aren't nearly as many young bucks doing it as about 4 years ago.
do what you feel you must but try not to let it get you too upset ... its just not worth it.
oh ... and good thick drapes will block that sound from coming through your windows although depending on the quality of the window ... it still may rattle. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/17/2007 4:47:28 AM | thorb, your cute when you play MR WIZARD.
thanks for the physics lesson. but umm, its not any help in the situation. i could care less if its a volume or vibration, that bottom line is ITS ASSAULTING MY EARS AND SCREWING WITH MY PEACE AND QUIET.
the level of noise we are talking about will not be affected or quieted by thick drapes. i have the thermal backed ones,, no difference whatsoever. the point is, why do they have to park in front of my house or yours, or drive down the street like that. hell, take it out in the middle of nowhere and blast away. just dont park in front of my house, or drive in my neighborhood with that noise. i have a couple of event type speakers stored in my basement,, i refuse to stoop to that level and hook them up. i would blast something really obnoxious, like Pavarotti at like say,, 6 am, when we know they are all sleeping,, including the two overcompensating for shorcomings jerks that live down the way from me. DRAPES! LOL, I WISH! i bet the cops would love it if that helped too. i work for a living and these jerks and their buddies with the same affliction run till all hours while ppl who work are tryin to sleep. this is just bs,, i dont care what spin you put on it, or tell us who hate it that "boys will be boys". none of my friends were disrespectin the neighborhood when i was a teenager. and btw,, these clowns im talkin about are not teens, many of them are easily i their late 20's. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/17/2007 5:07:51 AM | moraima??
by your own admission, you live in a rural area where you dont get much of this noise, and certainly not to the extent ppl do who live in urban areas. that having been said, yes there is a difference between rock and hard core ganster rap. that type of rap is written in a manner that is offensive. the language is offensive. refering to women as b's ahd hoes is offensive at any decible level. i am certainly not advocating censorship, what i am advocating is a little common courtesy. i want to hear my music,, not the persons in the next car. as far as the gangster rap music goes, i am also not advocating a change in the lyric. but i do challenge these artists, lyric writers, and record companies to take responsibility for the message that is being sent with this music. its offensive, its assaulting, and its abusive. it is supposed to be all those things. but you do not see anyone taking resposibility for it. nellie ( of tipdrill fame) says its the fault of the record companies who wont record lyrics that arent offensive. the record companies blame the consumer, and the consumers eat this shit up. who are the consumers you ask>>? by and large its suburban white teenagers with expendable cash. all im sayin is take ownership of your words and the message you know its sending. stop blaming eachother for the mess all of you made. i take comfort in the fact that now the dialogue has begun. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/17/2007 5:42:14 AM | | I don't know about that. That's how the local crack dealers advertize that they're open for business by slowly " BA-BOOMING " down my street. Then they'll pull over and sit there making their deals while all the while, the BA-BOOM BA-BOOM continues. Also, drive-by shooting happen with the BA-BOOM BA-BOOM along with the sound of gunfire for acompanyment, so you'd better rethink that "BA-BOOM NO CRIME" idea. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/17/2007 6:37:19 AM | Not all rap - Ba-Boom has negative lyrics. Check out Will Smith's rap and you will find up lifting messages.
I am just as offended by some country music and rock music. Do you seriously think I would sit back and not be offended by rap that trashed women? Folks here are judging all rather than the offensive parts.
Last night a neighbours kid let his vehicle sit on the driveway for a good 20 mins. with the engine running. The engine is set to make noise. All I could think of was the poisons going into the air. Engine noise rattles many windows and eardrums. I don't hear people trying to ban the noise of motorcycles pipes etc.
I don't live in a neighbourhood where drug dealers use Ba-Boom to advertise drug sales. I live in a neighbourhood where any illegal activity would bring the police force immediately.
It is also a neighbourhood with a Conservation Area. For the first time last summer, people from out of the area started parking in our subdivision and sneaking into the park to camp out so that they could sneak in booze. (There is a booze ban in provincial parks.)
These folks arrived last a night. Wondered drunkly and noisely in and out of the gate to the park to get more booze from their vehicles all night. No one played Ba-Boom, but they did play popular music each time they good back to their cars. They sat on peoples lawns and even picniced and partied. The police spent the whole long weekend going back and forth trying to catch these people. Finally the rear gates were locked perminentally. Now they just climb the fences.
It is a noisy world we live in. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer it to be more quiet, but it isn't going to happen so I might as well enjoy my music. At least when it is playing, I am not having to listen to my neighbours music that I dislike. | |
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| Am I too intolerant? (BA-BOOM, BA-BOOM)
Posted: 10/17/2007 6:46:44 AM | ROTFLMAO,, honey,, will smith isnt considered a rap artist within the industry, he is pop/r&b.
im glad that in canada you got mounties that will come to your rescue. but here , in the states, there seems to be a more passive mentality from the cops about this. screw that taxpaying home owners are being assualted daily by this crap. i didnt lop all rap into the same catagory either, i said GANSTER rap, theres a difference between that sub genre' and the rest of it. heck, i had to have the term "tip drill" explained to me. do you know what it is?? | |
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