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Posted: 10/17/2007 11:45:39 PM | In 1998 I was visiting my (then)boyfriend in Boston, when it came time for me to leave. I told Paul, I don't want to get on that Delta flight as I feel there is something wrong with the plane. Paul proceeded to remind me that I have never been a "wus" about flying and I agreed, so I boarded the flight to Las Vegas.
Upon being seated, a horrible bit of dread over took me and I went up to the flight attendant. I told him I was sick to my stomach and needed off of that plane ASAP! He told me to sit down and thought I was suffering from first time jitters. I insisted on seeing the pilot before I was planning to depart. Through much pushiness, I was able to get to the pilot. I told him I felt something was wrong with the plane and I thought it had something to do with the landing gear. He seemed to be a bit of the superstitious type and promised me if I sat down, he would check it out. So I did.
Ten minutes later he got on the loud speaker and stated there was a mechanical issue, that we passengers needed to go back to the ticket counter and that we would be scheduled on another flight.
I could not get to the pilot again to talk to him so I "de-planed" with the others and went back to the counter. My boyfriend was waiting at the counter for me and said he was glad I listened to my "gut feelings".
Two rather large men were standing in front of me in line to get their new flight tickets and Paul was waiting for me (because he also said he did not leave the airport as HE had a "feeling of dread" but did not want to upset me.)
I said to Paul, "those guys are probably football players, and they are sure cute, maybe I can sit with them"....lol.
As I jokingly said if THIS plane went down, I would be at least surrounded by beauty...lol. (AKA--two hunks)
The two men had meanwhile gotten their plane tickets and turned around. One of them handed me a first class ticket and had said, "honey, we are buying you an upgrade as we heard what happened on our last flight as we were in front of the plane when you were talking to the flight attendant, in first class." Then they proceeded to tell me they figured I was an "angel" because they heard the crew say if that prior flight went up--it never would have landed. (or crash landed due to malfunctioning landing gear)
Well I accepted the ticket because they insisted. Then they formally introduced themselves. Both were team members of the "Chicago Bears" Football Team.
Psychic ability or good luck? Only the shadow knows......... | |
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| Psychic Ability...Are U a Believer?
Posted: 10/18/2007 6:36:23 AM | | This is America. The land of "Freedom of Speech" and separation of Church and State. (Where I was raised anyway)-- That was made very clear to me in law school, the alleged land of logic. Every one is certainly entitled to their opinion Whereever they are from) and I respect that. As long as they remember that their opinion is just that, THEIR opinon and nothing else. Everyone has different religious and spiritual belief systems. Some people believe that psychic ability, per se, is a gift from God or a higher power, whatever the "Power" is in THEIR belief system. While none of us will ever ALL agree with everyone, because of the way our US Constitution is written in this country, we all have the right to express our self and to EQUAL TIME. When we begin to critisize and try to preach and impose OUR individual belief systems on the world non respectfully of others, I have issue with that. Just MY humble opinion. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2007 6:39:46 AM | LOL That post changed at least 6 times! lol
Does the story change that often too? (smile)
Each to their own. Its your story ;)
But no. Personally I dont believe it.
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Posted: 10/18/2007 7:29:12 AM |
using research to re-enforce one's own findings and not taking account contrary evidence (which i assume the poster advocates, as there is no mention of alternative results) cannot be called serious (or legitimate, if you prefer) science in any connotation.
There is a problem when our research supports the null hypothesis and rejects the original hypothesis. Additionally, one of the fundamentals of any legitimate research is to find research similar to your own. anyone who has ever written a reseach paper for a scientific journal or even read one would know this.
Also, you look for research that discounts your own research in order to decide if their methods are flawed, this isn’t also helpful because not everyone who works on research and accepts the null hypotheses gets published. So thus, only winners get published, losers don’t. Thus this can be a problem.
The information, that got me started into remote viewing research was an article I read in Newsweek back in 1997 (respectively). It described the process, and since then I’ve been looking at various procedures and looking for legitimate research.
This brings me to today, I think I have a decent method, but have only been about 66.7% (repeating decimal) successful at picking the right numbers. I have been trying to minimize variables that would destroy the legitimacy of my research.
I have read of the CIA documents from 1974 (declassified in 1975), and discovered there is no method section. It describes the results, how the RVer was given limited info (bad for validity) of his target site. Additionally, if the research doesn’t describe how it was done, how can we use the info to avoid mistakes?
While, many people do feel that pseudo-science is bad and should never be looked at I disagree. The vast majority of people believe in paranormal events. As skeptics, we should keep an open mind, but be critical of the information. There is a problem of being too open minded and too skeptical, too much of either would blind you to the results.
If anyone is interested in seeing what I have so say, I would be more then happy to send out a copy via e-mail. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2007 9:23:20 AM | Can I ask a valid question here?
And its pertinent for all religions.
A priest is supposed to be this this and that right? But are they all? Or only some?
A lawyer is supposed to know his or her stuff in order to best represent their client within the confines of the law. But some are great at it and some are..well shall we say not very learned in the matters of law.
Therefore is it safe to say that not ALL who claim to be paranormal...are indeed what would normally be perceived as paranormal?
Are we not then argung the self same argument as over in some other threads where 'evidence' is brought in to support cases?
And may the best 'lawyer' win :)
But....as in law...does that make it true? Or did you just create a convincing argument that made it seem the most believable?
This whole legal eagle thing got me thinking of how utterly stupid it is. Its not about truth. The truth doesnt win. The truth simply *is*. Arguments are won or lost. And arguments are won and lost on the basis of who fights best. Nothing else.
In the arena of the paranormal....that doesnt even make sense. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2007 11:14:45 AM | Thought or thinking is mental activity which allows beings to model the world,
and so to deal with the world effectively according to their own goals, plans, ends and desires.
Thinking is manipulating information, as when we form concepts,
engage in problem solving, reason and make decisions.
A thought may be an idea, an image, a sound or even an emotional feeling that arises from the brain.
Thinking is a higher cognitive function and the analysis of thinking processes is part of cognitive psychology
Example - Psychometrics (measuring intelligence and cognitive traits).
Perhaps one day in the 21 st century , all the mysteriousness of it all can be revealed
with some hard scientific analysis and repeatability.
Until then - I remain a non-believer. | |
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Posted: 10/19/2007 3:07:08 AM | My opinion is that it's all a load of twaddle made up by con artists to take in the needy and hopeless.
All psychic phenomena have been refutated and disproved beyond all resonalbe doubt time and time again over years of research. Even many famous "psychics" have admitted that they were faking it, and still people belive they were psychic despite complete denial.
It's like religion - people belive it because they want to believe it. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2007 1:09:20 PM | Hi, Agelespirit
True psychics do not and would not use their gift to make money at the expense of others. It is a trespass.
A psychic person can see things as they really are which makes it impossible for any mind control organization, church, government etc to control them just by saying something is true.
Hence we have the Spanish Inquistion, the Salem witch trials and every other means to eridicate psychics from the human race.
People are so conditioned to believe in certain thought patterns they would not believe a psychic occurance if it happened to them. If big foot sat down to tea with them they could not comprehend that or if they had a flight on a ufo it was just a bad dream.
Paul Foster Case put it quite well when he said the ignorance of the masses is beyound belief.
There are psychic people all over the place. They just keep quiet about it considering the hostile environment they are in.
I either know something or I do not know. I do not believe anything.
Keela | |
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Posted: 4/12/2008 8:52:16 PM | Real psychics rarely advertise, are very low key. Cops use them all the time but won't admit it.
Most people have the ability to one small extreme or another. | |
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Posted: 4/12/2008 9:00:46 PM |
Then they proceeded to tell me they figured I was an "angel" because they heard the crew say if that prior flight went up--it never would have landed. (or crash landed due to malfunctioning landing gear)
Flight #, airline, date etc please, I'll pull the maint records & have a look to see what was wrong. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 8:33:11 AM | It seems strange to me if there wasn't at least a QUESTION that psychic abilities exist then why is there so much research centered around it? I never really looked before but there are quite a few reputable scientists with papers on psychism... which is a large field and has many sub sets.
here's some links to some papers and organizations related to psi research:
http://anson.ucdavis.edu/~utts/psipapers.html
http://anson.ucdavis.edu/~utts/psilinks.html
This is more technical, but tries to establish a physics based approach to affect from consciousness between discreet objects.
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/papers/bell.html
My own experience with intuition, telepathy, empathy and precognition (no, I don't see dead people... but then again, how would I know?) is that it is something that is very subtle, and frequently is only useful to the self... the creepy gut feeling before something dangerous happens, the knowing the phone will ring before it does and who's on the other end... the sense that someone is looking at you even when they are out of your field of vision (probably a good skill to have for self-preservation...I don't know but if saber-tooth cat was in the brush and staring at me ready to pounce I would like to have that sense) also.. sometimes I know what someone is going to say or do, a few moments before it happens (usually in an emotionally charged exchange), now...whether that is extremely good analytical ability (I wouldn't give myself that much credit) or some sense of picking up their thoughts or intentions I don't know. I do know that sometimes I know things I shouldn't be able to... and I can't seem to find any cognitive thread that led me to those conclusions. These things RARELY have anything to do with temporal wealth.. but seem to be more on the order of relationships, health and well-being, and danger. Maybe it's some wierd ability that was once very important to human survival in a more dangerous environment and has just atrophied from disuse? It could be a completely natural, yet below cognitive thought, ability of the mind to assess danger. I believe everyone has these abilities, some are just more aware of it, or able to access it.
I think it might have something to do with quantum probability, and that is why it is such a nebulous thing.. maybe we have the ability to glimpse, or sense, the probability of events before us, but they only become truly real (a part of our experiential reality) when that probability is realized.
I think, like anything, that closing ones mind to the possibility that psychic abilities may actually exist is akin to the fundamentalist young earther who refuses to look at evolutionary data because his/her faith is based on a polarized and biased viewpoint... it's like sticking your fingers in your ears and going , "LALALALALALALALALA...I can't hear you!!!!!!". It goes against the very foundation of scientific enquiry. However skepticism is also healthy in any scientific arena... it keeps bad research, shaky statistics and bias from undue influence. Ultimately the search for truth and understanding will survive both the skeptic and the credulous.
Peace | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 8:40:45 AM | Nope, don't believe in it.
There is a book called 'How to cold read', or something like that. Read it, then look at how that guy on tv does his show (Crossing Over). FAKE!!!! | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 8:53:34 AM | | Pretty much falls apart when you question why a psychic would need an audible device to inform them there is someone at the door who wishes to speak with them... | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 12:19:42 PM | It's just quantum physics - tangled pairs. It's mostly useless, people heads are mostly full of the most prosaic bullshit imaginable, that last thing is a lot more useful. Psychic communication is just a lot of talk, heh.
Baba Ram Dass relates being told as much by a guru in Be Here Now. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 12:56:44 PM | No insult intended, but I have sometimes wondered why they need to advertise the time and place of "Psychic Fairs". 
That said, I believe that such an ability exists and some have it to a greater or lesser degree than others. I think that some "psychics" are fakes, some are delusional, and some are real. In regard to the ones who exercise a clearly spiritual ability, I think that some derive their ability from Good and use it for good, and some derive their ability for Evil and use it for evil, and some are somewhere in between. I think that it is limiting to consider psychic ability only in regard to looking into future events, or the world of the dead. And I think that some abilities called "psychic" are enhanced, refined, or magnified normal human abilities or sense such as intuition, empathy, and instinct. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 8:32:36 PM | I've had many psychic experiences and yes, I believe it. I don't think I have any special "powers", though, just experienced things psychic. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 3:00:40 PM | I've read through this thread, and of course found exactly what I thought would be here. Many negative posts spouting disbelief on whether or not one can have psychic ability on any level.
My answer is this: Those that have been given the gift, know it's truth and validity, and yes due to the negativity found in this arena, we simply do keep the talent quiet and to ourselves.
I would have to agree, that a high percentage of those that are charging for psychic readings, are most assuredly fake.
Those that are able to see, do not always find this to be a pleasant gift to have, we aren't always seeing love found, money coming, new jobs, etc. Some of us see disaster, heartbreak, betrayals, and death unfortunately. That being said, I would say that those that truly have "sight", tend to keep a low profile, and really aren't out there spouting what they can and cannot do.
Trust it does exist. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 6:32:15 AM | I don't believe in people talking to the dead or people telling others about their futures. People like that (in my opinion) are either fooling themselves or they are con artists.
I don't disbelieve people who can tune into feelings from others. If telephones can transmit signals via blutooth, why shouldn't we be able to do something similar.
We haven't been able to pick these signals up YET using machinery but maybe one day, we might.
Nothing spiritual, nothing supernatural.
And i don't see why it should be impossible for some people to be in tune with these signals sent by the brain, .. like a receiver.
Example:
Couple go to see, say, a medium about their son who died to see if they can contact him.
They focus on their son so much in that the "medium" picks up on this and can describe all these things that the couple know about their son... subconcious thoughts that they are transmitting about their son.
All the stuff about him forgiving the parents or him being happy and at peace... I don't believe that.... I think it's more likely to be what the parents are feeling and hoping for that is transmitted.
Much of the time, i bet the medium doesn't know this either, i bet the medium thinks he/she is actually talking to the dead... when I very very very much doubt that.
But just to repeat.... Nothing supernatural... nothing spiritual. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 11:36:17 AM | I not only am a believer I am a psychic medium. I do readings for a variety of people. I have helped people die and met them on the other side and helped them communicate with their families here, in a way that I would not be required, so I don't rip people off. My fee is very small anyway. But I need to eat. So does my dog. If you are a good artist, making a living that way is not wrong. If you dance or sing...same thing. If you are a psychic you are put down as a phony. Lawyers, doctors, shrinks....all ok.
I helped the police find a murdered man's body in Ottawa. It was right where I said it was.
I had a vision of the place and could describe it, I used my pendulum over a map, and I went to the other side and discussed it with the dead guy. I saw him and also used automatic writing. He told me some things even the police didn't know until later.
I never fake. If I can't do a reading I tell the person. (only happened once)
It helps people to take a different perspective on their issues. They feel bogged down.
It isn't so much the future they want as some signposts that they are on the right track to being with. Or where should they be according to what they wish to have in their life.
Some people want to check on the wellbeing of those who have passed over. I get them to ask very private questions of the deceased to prove it's them. I can describe the deceased and tell them what they said.
People put things down according to their uninformed opinion. The US government uses psychics for all sorts of reasons but one mainly is to see a place from a distance. Tell them what machinery or equipment or people are there. "Remote Viewers" they are called.
If you ever came for a reading with ME you would have your mind blown. Some of us are real. 
So...just a request....please don't put down something you may know little about. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 11:58:44 AM | NotWithThis
Interesting post.
So just to get an idea.
What abilities would you call yours?
What can you do?
(assuming of course your post isn't just an unfunny con? I've read your profile and you seem to joke about on it a lot...... and this is generally quite a BIG thing but you don't mention it..... so ASSUMING you're not just taking the piss)
The finding of dead bodies is interesting. Do the police come to you a lot for that kind of stuff?
If you managed to find one body, surely you were approached again with a similar request.
Maybe you should come to the UK... there's still a body missing from the moors murders a few decades ago. Ian Brady won't tell the police where the body is.... you should come over here... they'd probably pay you if you're right.
I'll be honest. I don't really believe EVERYTHING you say.... maybe 1 or 2 things i can buy though.... still interesting. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2008 2:20:10 PM | | I beleive that psychic ability is something that is very real. While there are few people who can prodict things like major disasters, or world wars, I think it is quite common for anyone to get little bits of random psychic vision once in a while. For example, how many people have ever heqard the phone ring in thier heads, and then suddenly it really does ring, or find themselves with a song stuck in their head, only to hear it play on the radio later that evening. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2008 4:57:04 PM | Any one believe in something called coincidence ?
An event that might have been arranged although it was really accidental .
Such things aren't psychic- they just happen during our lifetime on the planet.
Far toooo many people seem to get the two things confused with hopes, desires, etc. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2008 4:58:13 PM | I had relationships with two native American women and both of them were incredibly psychic. One of them knew exactly when a friend would be calling by telephone and she would answer the phone the very second BEFORE it would ring.
The other is an astral projectionist and will still visit me in spirit when I think of her. Her presence is not entirely noise free so I'm able to sense when she's arrived.
Both of these women were abused as children by their fathers. Maybe this somehow led to the manifestation of their unusual abilities .
Yes, I most certainly do believe in psychic ability but I will add that there has to be an ongoing connection, such as mother-child or wife-husband (girlfriend/boyfriend). I will also add that such people prefer not to be known for their mystical gifts. | |
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Posted: 4/18/2008 7:20:19 PM | | Some religions believe in the idea of psychic ability, if you think about it. The prophets of the Old Testatment, depending on how you interpret things, predicted things like Joseph. However, the religions caution the non-prophets from getting into these things, I believe. It is interesting that you will have all these people who call themselves Christians or Jews who won't believe in it, but the religious texts point to such abilities. People for millenia have believed in this including the ancient Greeks. It is nothing new. It is hard to prove these things, you know. Have I had a psychic experience? I don't know. Unless you call feeling someone's words here and there before they uttered the words (I am talking about someone I didn't really know). I am not all big on seeking out psychics. I am not preoccupied with the future. I don't really need to know it. | |
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