| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/12/2008 11:50:53 AM | Found this today, it is from the CS Monitor, but take that with a grain of salt ;)
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
The gist of the article says he rounded them up, and shipped them back to Mexico 500 miles deep into Mexico, not just 'Catch and Release' at the border.
Interesting read
There are now said to be 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the US. Of the Mexicans who live here, an estimated 85 percent are here illegally. Go the F*%# Home, you do nothing but TAKE, and if you happen to give it is because it benefits your TAKING. | |
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| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/12/2008 3:15:48 PM | | "The aboriginals are now being very well compensated for the theft of their land. They built casinos to take the invaders paycheck" yes but do you know that the majority of their race has been wiped out by the white ancestors and only a tiny fraction of them remain to this day? I don't believe money will ever compensate for that. | |
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| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/12/2008 6:32:49 PM | Bethany,
Yes, am quite aware of that fact having worked with several tribes while with the National Park Service. The comment was made with a tinge of sarcasm about their land, not their extermination. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2008 6:49:20 PM | The aboriginals are now being very well compensated for the theft of their land. They built casinos to take the invaders paycheck" yes but do you know that the majority of their race has been wiped out by the white ancestors and only a tiny fraction of them remain to this day? I don't believe money will ever compensate for that.
The 'White invaders' did nothing more to the aboriginals than what they were doing for hundreds of years to themselves. Human kind has been invading and killing each other for real estate since time began. Where are the cave men? Someone killed them and took their land, was it the aboriginals? Or did someone else kill the cave man? Then the aboriginals killed them? Then Christopher Columbus showed up in 1492 and then the Spanish Conquistadors showed up in the 15 and 16th centuries and they also killed the aboriginals, so pretty much they were almost wiped out by those SPANISH BROWN people before the Mayflower showed up with the WHITE settlers at Plymouth Rock in 1621. I could go on but this really is not a history lesson.
Point is; for over 200 years now, the US has been established as a nation. With recognized BORDERS by Mexico and the REST of the world. BORDERS that must be adhered to, not just overrun by anyone who thinks they should be allowed. Remember these people know they are breaking the laws, they know each time they cross the border and they don't come here through the border gates, they SNEAK or MULE over here and they all know it is ILLEGAL to be here.
Don't even get me started about Amnesty. They cry Amnesty because they have been here illegally forever so they should just be allowed in. It is like saying they have rented a house for so long it now belongs to them. | |
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| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/12/2008 8:32:22 PM | Maybe we, in my town are going to get a piece of luck. They arrested two brothers, here illegally, for drug dealing, this week. Guess what........a wind fall also.....During the house search, they also netted over $69,000.00 cash.
Wonder how those POOR ILLEGALS, were planning on spending all that cash they had accumulated? Trust me, this is not an isolated incident.
If you have a bleeding heart for law breakers and illegals, why don't you just pack your bags and go home with them and make "THERE"......a better place to live?
Personally I've had a gut full of our Government and elected politicians not doing anything to stop the influx of illegals. The only ones who benefit from illegals, are big business........lining their pockets with even more cash. The rich get richer, on the backs of the working class poor.
If you can't see whats happening to the working class.......POOR citizens of America, your either blind, just stupid or you don't give a dahum about your fellow citizens. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2008 9:04:18 PM | | Veniceskurt,yes you are correct and prove an excellent point.I did get a little off topic for I was responding to another person that brought it up. America has every right to defend their country despite our gruesome past of our newly growing country. But I ask everyone what would you do if you had to live a lifetime of poverty (if you made it that long) watching your family suffer and starve and all you had was one chance to escape it? would you take that chance or accept where you were? Some people say their goverment should be responsible for them which is true,but,you know what. Their not being responsible for their people and probably never will. Then you have our goverment that would prefer to help foreigners rather then it's own people. If you want to blame someone,blame the goverments.Not people that are trying to survive. | |
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| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/12/2008 10:31:32 PM | @ whisper
Personally I've had a gut full of our Government and elected politicians not doing anything to stop the influx of illegals. The only ones who benefit from illegals, are big business........lining their pockets with even more cash. The rich get richer, on the backs of the working class poor.
........which is why each elected official ought to be held responsible for his/her inactions once elected by the populace who voted them in!.......as long as we keep giving them a "free ride" into a new term they will keep doing less and less!.......if illegal immigration is a hot concern for most voters then the politicians need to know that we mean business once their term is about to expire!
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@ beth
But I ask everyone what would you do if you had to live a lifetime of poverty (if you made it that long) watching your family suffer and starve and all you had was one chance to escape it? would you take that chance or accept where you were?
.......maybe i would but then i'd have to be ready to accept the risks of breaking the laws of a foreign nation!
Some people say their goverment should be responsible for them which is true,but,you know what. Their not being responsible for their people and probably never will.
.......the fact that by offering these migrants an 'easy out' across the US border...makes them less motivated to effect political change in their own nation........if a government fails to serve the needs of the pple on a grand scale as you have in central america, then the natural inclination is for the pple to 'force' change in their system...........so by allowing large numbers of impoverished pple in, we are short circuiting that inclination and cementing the present corrupt system in place
If you want to blame someone,blame the goverments.Not people that are trying to survive.
.....our 'government' is "we the pple"!!.......unless we roll up our sleeves and get involved to show these lazy politicians that their cushy jobs are in jeopardy, nothing will change!.....the choice is ours, either we have the stamina to force their hands or we don't!......if so then we can stem this terrible tide and re-instate orderly immigration based on our needs.........if NOT, then we will simply go by the way that the Roman empire did......as they could no longer keep control of their borders, more and more foreigners seeped in faster than they could be assimilated....this made for a slow but steady erosion of their system and standards until they were no more!
if we don't learn from history we will be doomed to repeat it! | |
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Posted: 3/12/2008 10:47:47 PM | | sum1reel,what you said makes perfect sense. But people stand around like sheep and they do nothing. They'd rather talk and complain about the problems and the few that actually stick up for a cause are persecuted. I believe that someday this country will fall like the roman empire. It could happen in our lifetime or it could happen hundreds of years from now. But history always repeats itself for the most part. Hate to sound pessimistic but it's true. But we must make the best of what we can do. | |
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Posted: 3/13/2008 1:13:58 AM | THANK GOD! HOORAY!
Now, All those people up there need to come down here to SOUTH FLORIDA because we have an infestation problem & we need some help!
The illegals refuse to learn English & they want all the businesses to hire Spanish speaking employees, so it's easier for them to communicate.... what that does is put all the English speaking people out of work. The illegals ARE HURTING US!
It's sad when a US citizen, born & raised in the good old USA can't get a job she's fully qualified for because she doesn't speak SPANISH. Companies all across South Florida turn down white & black americans every day because we can't speak a foriegn language.
I have a girlfriend with a Master's Degree... everywhere she goes to interview, they tell her she's the perfect candidate for the job, but since there are SO MANY spanish speaking people here in South Florida, they need someone BiLingual. She can't work & support herself because she doesn't speak Spanish for all the illegals.
I have been told this too, on many, many interviews. That sucks!!!!!!!
My family fought for this country. I am a citizen, born & raised here & I'm being told that I can't earn a living & support my child because I don't speak a foriegn language??????? WHAT???????????
These illegal aliens put their kids in school... we pay their way. They get free health care in emergency rooms & we pay their bills. They work under the table & do not pay into taxes. They take jobs away from Americans because they will work for almost nothing & require no benefits or taxes for companies to pay. They send OUR money to other countries... and don't put it back into the economy like it should be & they REFUSE to learn English here in South Florida.
South Florida (especialy Miami) IS A SPANISH COUNTRY ALL IN IT'S OWN!
It's true! You can't go anywhere in Miami without seeing everything written in Spanish!
I have walked into many stores in Miami where NOT 1 person speaks english. It's SAD!
I get telemarketing calls at home, where they are speaking Spanish to me. When I say, "I'm sorry, I don't speak Spanish, can you speak to me in English please?" THEY YELL AT ME, CURSE ME OUT & HAND UP ON MY FACE!
And WE are allowing this to happen. We are allowing the illegals to walk right in & take over. They demand their rights & people lie down & let them walk all over us. They do not respect our laws. They do not respect our culture. They do not respect Americans. They simply want to come here, infest our lands, change everything & turn it into what's best for them & they want all the benefits & special privilages they can get.
IF I WERE A COP, I WOULD PULL EVERYONE OVER & ASK FOR ID. I WOULD RUN EVERYONE'S ID & EVERY ILLEGAL I WOULD FIND WOULD BE SHIPPED BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!
And if they still wanted to live here & come back, I would allow it IF IT WERE DONE ACCORDING TO THE LAW. Learn English, Apply for a Visa, make the application the right way. Anyone who follows the law & applies for a green card is welcome. ILLEGALS ARE NOT. | |
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Posted: 3/13/2008 5:02:20 AM | There are several firms, and companies, in Southern California that won't even let you in for an interview if you're not at least bilingual, and some places want you to be trilingual; spanish, and korean, or japanese.
There was a time when people were proud to come to America, and learn English, and become Americans.
Now, if you're born here, you're not good enough, because you're not an illegal.
Ain't it great to be liberal? Don't you just love how reaching out to help others has sold your homeland right out from under you, with your own tax dollars? Don't worry, it'll get better, once they find a trauma center that's still open, when you have a heart attack from learning that the Illegals have now taken over what was once your home land, and done it on your dollar.
How about we get just a little conservative, and send the illegals packing, by passing laws like Arizona, and Oklahoma have? They'll leave on their own then. It won't cost us one taxpayer dollar. | |
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| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/13/2008 8:47:55 AM | I have a girlfriend with a Master's Degree... everywhere she goes to interview, they tell her she's the perfect candidate for the job, but since there are SO MANY spanish speaking people here in South Florida, they need someone BiLingual. She can't work & support herself because she doesn't speak Spanish for all the illegals.
Here is a lovely new report on Fox TV explaining how they are demoting or firing long time Chiefs and Leaders because they don't speak Spanish! The gall! Imagine this, you move to Mexico and get a job and you don't speak Spanish, so they fire the Boss because he doesn't speak English! Yeah, I bet that is going to happen.
Hey Pablo, guess what? If we go to Oregon, we don't have to learn English, and we can still get jobs! Plus! We get to fire those people who are 10 times more experienced than us because they don't speak Spanish! What a country!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=53A2jpDqV3w&feature=related | |
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Posted: 3/13/2008 12:25:17 PM | | For anyone who has not heard.....contact numbersusa.com Be come active in turning the tide. If your not part of the solution, then your part of the problem. | |
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| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/13/2008 6:25:56 PM | @ beth
I believe that someday this country will fall like the roman empire. It could happen in our lifetime or it could happen hundreds of years from now
........the process is already happening, but too few pple are realizing it!.......the stories from the above posters is but a small sample of impact that the illegals are having, but there is more less visible detrimental effects.
...the question is whether we can intervene soon enough before it begins to have a large ripling effect...........at this stage, it doesn't look as though we can! | |
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Posted: 3/13/2008 7:11:32 PM |
I have walked into many stores in Miami where NOT 1 person speaks english. It's SAD!
Are you sure? I have to deal with this kind of thing all the time at work with Asian customers… they don’t speak a word of English… till they want something, then they magically have a firm understanding of the langue.  | |
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Posted: 3/13/2008 7:16:09 PM |
IF I WERE A COP, I WOULD PULL EVERYONE OVER & ASK FOR ID. I WOULD RUN EVERYONE'S ID & EVERY ILLEGAL I WOULD FIND WOULD BE SHIPPED BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!
That is precisely why you'll never, ever be a cop. Ever. | |
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Posted: 3/13/2008 11:52:11 PM | Actually, that's EXACTLY what is going on in NW Fla right now. Cops see a van full of wetbacks and pull them over, then any without ID/green cards are taken into custody, then once enough are gathered they are bussed directly to INS. That makes them INS's problem. They don't bother to CALL INS first, they just SHOW UP! Kinda leaves 'em holding the bag. One officer was asked what happens if INS decided not to take them, he said they were told to put them all out in their parking lot if refused and make the drive back with an empty bus...they've not been refused yet.  | |
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| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/14/2008 12:40:02 AM | god bless....Canada haha
ps: the first settlers that came to america from europe, do you think they weren't viewed as illegal aliens in the eyes of native americans? yet they still came over and robbed,and raped an entire race of people. and not to mention the land that was stolen from mexico.
paybacks a **** huh? haha
pps: **** ameriKKKa | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 4:07:46 AM | You make it sound as if european settlers who immigrated(illegally you would say) to what is now Canada didn't kill natives and steal their land too. Shame on you for not acknowledging that. Sure, it was on a smaller scale, but it still happened.
But then again as I say in a previous post, those natives that were here in north america(when the europeans came in 1492), may have killed natives that were already here before them and stole their land thousands of years ago. It's a cycle thats happened over thousands of years, not unique to any one race, culture or continent. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 4:11:43 AM | | In response to message number 90, he might be able to get a job working as a sheriff's deputy in Arizona under sheriff Joe Arpaio, or in another state working for someone else similar to that sheriff. | |
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| OKLAHOMA SAYS GET OUT TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
Posted: 3/14/2008 10:29:46 AM |
ps: the first settlers that came to America from Europe
Actually it has been proven that the first recorded people in American came from Asia. So when the Native Americans settled *they* were the illegal aliens and *they* probably killed them off first.
According to the New World migration model, a migration of humans from Eurasia to the Americas took place via Beringia, a land bridge which formerly connected the two continents across what is now the Bering Strait. The minimum time depth by which this migration had taken place is confirmed at c. 12,000 years ago, with the upper bound (or earliest period) remaining a matter of some unresolved contention.
Reasons for the decline of the Native American populations are variously theorized to be from diseases, conflicts with Europeans, and conflicts among warring tribes( their own people).
And yes, they also populated Canada so *you* are the Illegal Alien  | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 11:56:15 AM | You know something just crossed my mind.
With the weakening dollar and increased pressure on illegals here in the states I wonder if we will see a mass migration, not back to Mexico, but to Canada! | |
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Posted: 3/14/2008 12:10:09 PM | ^^^^^its already begun....In the georgia forum many have threaten to migrate to cananda if Barack Obama wins ....lol
Good for Oklahoma, everyone should at least try to follow the federal laws....if you want to be here, apply for citizenship.
We are going to invaded the canadians...lol
i am kidding. I love the good ole USA, although I have been told I am a qualified for a job,But will not be hired cause i don't speky espanola gooder enough:( comprende?
Barack for President
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