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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/1/2008 12:17:55 AM | Scryer41 - Excellent!!!! Where did you find that- the exchange between the student and professor!?!?
Why oh why hasn't anybody responded to it????
Oh, I wanted to, but I thought it was off-topic. But since you brought it up...
Not one peson with all the smarmy,mean anti-christian and blasphemous posts can respond to this brilliant presentation of logic....
Please allow me to make one. The "brilliant" post you refer to asserts that there is no evidence for evoluton. Why is it that Christians demand proof of evolution (of which there is much. The fossil record, genetic markers... its all there. You have the internet- Google it) but accept stories about talking snakes (of which exists NO archaelogical evidence) readily and without question? How is that "having your eyes opened"? The Flintstones wasn't a documentary series, dude.
Now for the topic at hand:
I get that Christianity may bring peace to your soul. I think that's awesome! Going to church allows you to connect with the rest of the community. Fantastic! Really, what harm ever came from bake sales? Belonging to a church gives you one more support network, and who couldn't use something like that?
However, while I agree that church is a great place to meet classy, quality ladies who are less likely (not unlikely, just less likely) to spend your money gambling, or not respect the relationship, or develop an addiction- I disagree with the implication that non-Christian ladies are all drunken-nympho biker chicks. It reflects the I'm-better-than-you type of arrogance that many Christians typify.
Sure, your Christian girlfriend keeps herself healthy and won't sleep with your buddies. But how will you feel about your relationship when she won't have sex with you outside of procreational purposes because it makes her "feel like a wh@re"? How about when your son commits suicide because his mom made him hate himself for being gay? How about her refusal to allow your daughter get an abortion after she was raped? Not to mention watching the woman you love having her mind twisted by men with their stories of damnation that scare the crap out of her. Hmmm... good catch indeed. What do you expect of a woman that puts her imaginary friends before her family?
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Posted: 5/1/2008 6:34:54 AM | HI
I'm back to let you know one thing it is call having morels and going to bed and having sex with everyone doesn't make you better or worse. I am christian and I believe in christ and that he did die for me that is what I believe in. Pre-marital sex is our chose and the good thing is we when a woman meets a man she knows if she wants to have sex
maybe it was not with you because she didn't like you.!!!!!!!!! Man think because we are christian we don't like sex we just love christ and I BELIEVE in something so strong and If I want to have sex or make love as I like to call it it ,well be with someone I really care and like him at lease not with someone who thinks he is GODs gift to woman oh please if that hit a nerve then it applys to you. SORRY you ask. thats just me always trouble. .....I BELIEVE .... in that wonderful man.................thats all.    
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Posted: 5/1/2008 6:45:11 AM | Thank you Sunsetviewer you just said it all I should have just waitied for you to write in I've said to much. Yes I know what you mean by ignorance I am being caught up on this topic on persecution and woman christian needs your right i should have known this better.  I BELIEVE and love all .
SYLVIA55
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Posted: 5/1/2008 8:14:02 AM | My final comment is this: If you believe in God... why call him a lier? God inspired the men who wrote the books of the Bible. If you say that what HE told them to write was a lie, then you are saying God lies. I'd reather believe in what HE says than what the world says.
As for finding evidence that evolution is fact.... If that's so... tell me Trailsman5, why ae scientists now thinking it's not all that it's cracked up to be and are reworking the "theory"?
Science may have some of the answers... but God has ALL the answers. It comes down to faith. Either you believe with all your heart what is said in the Bible... or you don't. What is most important is that Christ died for us. He was no zombie. He was God incarnate. He is alive and well, waiting for God The Father to give the signal to come and reclaim the Earth from Satan. And I'll be there with him when that time comes.
A group of scientists say to God... "Hey! We can make man out of dirt. We can now prove we don't need you!" God says... "Ok... show me." One scientist bends down to pick up some dirt and God, the creator of all things, says... "Hold on... get your own dirt." | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/1/2008 7:08:56 PM | scryer41
Ok then who made God ?? Which Supreme Being is the right one ?? Lot's of religions all believe they are right.. As far back as the Romans/Greeks and their multiple gods They had just as much Faith as you. But they are wrong and your God is the right one.. I see
The Bible a bunch of stories told from one person to another.. If you have ever done broken telephone you know what can happen with that.. If you want to believe in that whatever.. What bothers me is people trying to thrust your point of view on me.. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/1/2008 7:44:30 PM | | Religious or non-religious, who made who and what evolved into what? Does it really matter? Each person will believe as their hearts lead them, no book or scientific evidence will ever change that. Unfortunately I wished that more of the world would quit letting dogma of either venue create a tension filled environment that swallows everything in it’s path. If a man or woman is genuinely interested in you it shouldn’t matter what you believe, it will be you they are after, not philosophy of any caliber. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/2/2008 2:37:15 AM | Scryer41, I have asked many questions of Christians in my posts. Why have you not answered any of them? Allow me to answer some of yours.
<div class='quote'>If you believe in God... why call him a lier? God inspired the men who wrote the books of the Bible. If you say that what HE told them to write was a lie, then you are saying God lies
Your premise is based on believing that God spoke to these people. I have an alternate (and more probable) explanation. God didn't speak at all. A bunch of guys who lived at a pre-Amish level of civilization got together, reworked and updated some stories (like we did with Battlestar Galactica and Charlie's Angels) from ancient Babylon, Mesopotamia, Egypt, etc. to entertain and reinforce cultural norms. Publishing laws were so lax in those days that they were not required to add a page that said, "Any resemblance to actual persons or places is purely coincidental." This would explain why the Bible's explanation of how the universe works, from a terracentral universe to evolution, constantly breaks down in the face of scientific and archaelogical evidence.
<div class='quote'>I'd reather believe in what HE says than what the world says
Of that, I am certain.
<div class='quote'>As for finding evidence that evolution is fact.... If that's so... tell me Trailsman5, why ae scientists now thinking it's not all that it's cracked up to be and are reworking the "theory"?<
What peer-reviewed scientific journals are you getting your information from? Look, evolution is something that we agree occurred. The findings from studying the fossil record, animal physiologies, microbiology all form the same picture. The controversy is over the hows and whys of the process.
Here's how science works: A dude has an idea about something and sets up an experiment to see if he's an idiot or if he's on to something. If he fails to show that he's an idiot, he publishes the results. Then all of his buddies (who are jealous of his brilliance) try to poke holes at his methodology and recreate the experiment to see if the results are consistent. Others will perform different experiments to show the veracity of alternate theories. The cycle continues...
So you see, my friend, there are really smart people who spent a lot of money on education and have no vested interest in controlling your behaviour trying to show that scientific community is wrong. Thats why evolution, a 19th century idea, is still around today while phrenology (determining traits based on the shape of one's skull) is no longer around.
He was no zombie
He rose from the dead. He's either a zombie or a vampire.
<div class='quote'>A group of scientists say to God... "Hey! We can make man out of dirt.
If science proved that life can be produced from dirt, you'd probably jizz all over your Watchtower library because FINALLY reality would match what you think reality is. You'd be praising science and encouraging the kids to read Discover magazine. You'd see the church fund dirtology research centers.
If I met someone who described themselves as Christian- to me, that's like announcing that you think Batman is real.
"Oh yeah. He's a millionaire who dresses up in a costume and fights crime with his adopted teenage son. I'm hoping to visit Gotham City when I save up the money."
Well, one of two things are probably happening:
1. She's mentally ill.
2. She has limited access to information.
So I would probably explain to her that she's mistaken. Maybe point her to Wikipedia. If she persists in her fantasy, I will have to assume the former rather than the latter.
Sorry if you think I'm a hater for pointing out the obvious, but at least I'm not knocking on your door on a saturday morning. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/2/2008 8:12:27 AM | | not me my mother always told me if your looking for a good women go to church.the reason some men are scared of you is you dont sleep around on first date or anything and yo want to get married and then going to church.if your a good man isnt this what you want. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/2/2008 8:15:53 AM | | since you love christ so much i want you to read romans chapter 1 verse 22-27 about impassiable fools in the king james version of the bible and tell me what you think bye. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/3/2008 7:41:23 AM | THANK YOU, for that wonderful rememberance of that wonderful verse, read it and
I can tell you I have everything to gain and nothing to lose and i'll lieve it at that.
We are all differant and respect for each other.
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/3/2008 3:05:56 PM | Absolutely not! I happen to be searching for a good Christian woman. Although, I believe that I have not had much luck either due to the Christian aspect of my life. And for those who believe that Christians are overly preachy or believe that they are better than everyone else, you are strongly mistaken! The fact that we are Christians means that we care for everyone, no matter how "bad" they are. We just want to share what's good in our lives so that everyone else might feel it too. Sorry if that comes off as preachy, but it needs to be said.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only son. So that whoever believed in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life! | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/3/2008 6:08:22 PM | | Yeah, it pretty much does scare a lot of guys off, although I suppose I can only speak for myself. Believe it or not, there really are guys out there who read profiles and look for certain things. It may just be that certain guys have had bad experiences with women of certain religions, but the stereotype is there, nonetheless. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/3/2008 11:50:19 PM | Yes. Yes you do. Faster than anything but children.
There are a variety of reasons. None of them are positive and I would prefer not to unintentionally insult you, though, so I'll just leave it at that. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/4/2008 12:05:14 AM | I'm apathetic agnostic.
So whether someone is Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, makes no difference to me.
I just prefer if they don't push their religion on me. I respect the presence of all religions equally and throughout history, piety has opened the door to arrogance, ignorance and folly.
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/4/2008 5:15:46 AM | YES so simple yet so hard for all of us sometime to remember we are all the same we all love hurt cry and have needs we all have different belives all skin color but we all
make this world go round with all our differant ways .yes your right Vancer repect them all .
GOD BLESS all believes this is a free country.
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/4/2008 10:47:41 AM | HeyIChooseToRun: you wonder why no one responded to Scryer's post about the Atheist Professor and the Christian Student... The primary reason I chose not to respond is that it's baiting and it's propaganda. I'm not sure that I could take it on without drawing on iconoclasm that I have felt was beneath me since I was a teenager. But... since you asked...
'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?' Christians seem to have a very skewed notion about what teaching Evolution means. A gentleman I know who's a Promise Keeper told me with all sincerity that "they're teaching that if a cow goes and wades in the ocean, it will grow fins!" There are certain groups who are so threatened by Science that they're churning out some ridiculous propaganda. It's Gallileo all over again.
The bottom line about Evolution, is that yes we know it's an actual process. Evidence that it has happened, and continues to happen is there. Science classes can teach that Evolution has happened, and the alternate theories about how it does happen... but they can't (and don't) teach how it happens like it's a fact -they don't know, and don't claim to.
I do know a man who's seen Evolution at work. His "five senses" are telling him it's a real, and observable phenomenon. He's a Dentist (now retired). When he started in the business, virtually all of his patients needed their wisdom teeth yanked... when I was having mine out, he mentioned that more and more young people just don't have them any more. Humans in North America just don't need them. They're evolving out of existence.
'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelled the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir. So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?'
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I guess you'll have to take them on faith.' Or, alternatively, we could do a CT Scan, MRI, or if you want to get extreme, have a Neurosurgeon crack open the duramater and poke around in the grey matter.
'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'
'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't darkness?'
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'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'
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To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'
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'You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could, but God doesn't.'
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?'
I put all of these snippets together, because they point out the inherent flaws of this contrived exchange...
One student says, states as fact, that the Bible tells him he's Evil. The other student states that there is no Evil, there is only an absence of God. If the core of Christianity is the teachings of the Bible, then our second student is just wrong. I have heard many Christian's say that Satan's Greatest Trick is convincing the World He doesn't exist... apparently he's got our 2nd student completely snowed.
But, setting that aside, our professor tells us that his brother had Strong Christian Faith, and turned to Prayer when he was diagnosed with Cancer. In the context of the passage, we're assuming that Cancer is Evil, or at least failing to Cure it when you could cure it is Evil. Even if Evil is only the Absence of God, we'd have to assume that someone who is described as having Strong Christian Faith would have the presence of God. God is present, Evil still occurs, Double-You Tee Eff? | |
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Posted: 5/4/2008 2:52:49 PM | chemistryNkisses wrote:
"Anyone who subscribes to an organized religion that is more or less exclusive or at best patronizing of other beliefs and possibilities is not probably someone I'm going to have much faith in."
Firstly, it is very possible to be a Christian and to not be patronizing or exclusionary. It depends on whether you follow the church as an institution or Christ as a prophet and teacher and martyr. Any belief, any faith is first and foremost a philosophy that one uses to understand or explain ones existence and from which one garners his or her moral and ethical compass headings.
Second, to answer the question by the OP.
I'm not afraid of a Christian woman. But I am afraid of a woman who claims such and uses it as a way to excuse rudeness, arrogance, prejudice, shallowness, narrow mindedness and opressive behavior. That kind of dishonesty, both external (toward others) and internal (toward herself), is the worst kind of hypocrisy. There are many women who are rude, arrogant, prejudiced, shallow, narrow-minded and oppressive toward men. Women who ask everything in a relationship and are prepared to offer nothing in return because they hold onto adolescent fantasies that tell them that they don't need to do anything but look pretty or sexy to get what they want. But women who claim to believe in the Golden Rule and in the teachings of Christ (which often echo and rephrase the teachings of other, older philosophies) and still behave as if they don't are truly frightening to me. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/4/2008 8:28:29 PM |
But women who claim to believe in the Golden Rule and in the teachings of Christ (which often echo and rephrase the teachings of other, older philosophies) and still behave as if they don't are truly frightening to me.
Individuals all have personal beliefs (whether it's coined as religious or not) standards of behavior as to what's acceptable and not, morals, ethics whatever verbage you care to use. They are our ideal what we subscribe to and live our lives by.
I don't know of anyone of sound mind that would say they live by whatever their "moral compass" is 100% of the time or in every situation. The word hypocrite IMO is thrown around and used far too often, I truly believe anyone could make the hypocrite accusation to anyone else. That said, there are those who consistently their talk/actions aren't even a close match.
We're human, selfish and self protective by nature, blessed at times and cursed at times with having feelings and emotions. IMO a sign of maturity is not to be controlled or dictated to by our feelings or emotions, our only true control is self control. The old slogan "if it feels good, do it" great slogan, catchy phrase but a sure recipe for creating chaos in someone's life.
I list baptist because I am a member of a baptist church. I will say openly and honestly that I don't regularly attend and haven't for a few years. I have reasons, they're personal if someone wanted to confront me and were that interested, I'd tell them why.
In regards to dating, there are any number of things that "scare someone off" or make them click past someone's profile. Like it or not, we've all had experiences with all different types of people, and the bad experiences sometimes are more clearly remembered.
If someone is scared off that I'm baptist, that's fine. I don't change who I am or what my personal belief system is to try to convince someone to "date me". I'm very much the WYSIWYG (think I did that right...for the computer people). 
The essence of christianity and being christ like to me is the simple message, love your neighbor as you love yourself. So much good common sense, philosophy and even good psychology in that. I can't begin to tell you how much my "religion" belief, philosophy...has enriched my life.
IMO one of the reasons religion is such a hot button issue is because the beliefs, the experiences are so very personal. And often it's someone's background/heritage/tradition...the way they were raised. It's just another influence that we make our own choices, decide what's best for us and live by that. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/4/2008 9:03:04 PM |
Scryer41, I have asked many questions of Christians in my posts. Why have you not answered any of them? Allow me to answer some of yours.
You're wasting your time, I've asked him questions in 2 or 3 posts & he consistantly ignores ALL questions. He has nothing intelligent to add to any thread. | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 5/5/2008 1:22:47 AM | | Personally I believe in God, but I am not Christian. The reason this is such an issue is because Christians usually have a rep for being overly judgmental and some tend to be really reserved in the bedroom. Nothing wrong with being Christian, but if your stating it in your profile I would steer away personally. | |
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