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| | Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???Page 9 of 23 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23) | "Hmmm, that isn't a commandment. "
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 2/17/2008 6:19:52 PM | Octoro: What are you talking about I am the same person I was before I had kids.. I don't need to go to a building to treat people nice.. I have always done that. If you have to go to a building weekly just to play nice in this world.. That is pretty sad.
I have seen alot of people who visit a building weekly who don't always behave nice, but since they do their one visit they feel they can get away with it.
Oh and which bulding is right building. To many stupid wars and millions of people killed because of the right building.. You really think that going every week to a building makes a difference and he listens to all buildings everywhere. Or he picks one team over another when both teams pray for his help.. Please..
I am sorry if someone believes in that, then they are obviously not the right person for me .. So yes that scares me off, for others it may be a plus. | |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 7:34:31 PM | I am a christian and I am proud of it, thank you. Also I don't go to a building to treat people nice as you put it. There are good and bad people in any church. The same way, there are good and bad in your workplace, or the businesses you visit or your neighborhood, for that matter..
That means I believe in God and Jesus Christ , and I have faith. Without my faith, I have nothing. As well I go to church regularly. I am Catholic. If this scares you off, then go run in the other direction like a scared little boy.
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Posted: 2/17/2008 9:16:39 PM | | ^^Your post sounds a little DEFIANT, Elizabeth-Beth. Have you often been turned down because of your faith? I wouldn't turn down a Christian girl, but if a guy chooses not to date a Christian, it doesn't mean he's a "scared little boy" (thread title notwithstanding). LOL. Lighten up. | |
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Posted: 2/17/2008 10:33:02 PM | This is to the Wiccan guy on the first page.
You obviously have no idea what Christianity is. Or maybe you're equating Catholicism with all Christians. Uniteds (a protestant denomination) are all a bunch of equal rights hippies (not to generalize), I know one who's a lesbian minister.
And if you actually dated a Christian woman she probably was just embarrassed by all the groves, high priestesses, and pretentious magical fairy stuff. I read Harry Potter to get it out of my system, you should try it!  | |
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Deev12
| | Joined: 1/22/2008
Msg: 207 | |
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 2/18/2008 1:43:33 AM | Nick-89...
From the Bible: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. [and]
Let him without sin, cast the first stone.
...all the Wiccans I know are tired of people shouting "Get Behind me, Satan!" and then throwing rocks at them. That's really not what those passages mean...
But I love how accepting of someone else's religious choices you are... very grown-up and refreshing. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 2:01:03 AM | I only date Christian women, myself. I also only date Christian women that are still virgins, don't drink or smoke, etc. Pretty strict guidelines, yup.
That said, all the women I've met that meet that criteria I've found to be rather arrogant, and absolutely littered with insecurities and drama. When you date a Christian girl, at least the kind that meet the whole "moral criteria" list that I abide by, you get a whole slew of other problems. You can walk into a book store and find a good twenty or so self-help books written for Christian girls that make common mistakes in dating, most of them involving a misguided sense of entitlement and destiny.
It's fairly annoying. So, as a Christian guy, even Christian girls will scare me off sometimes. I've found I actually enjoy the company of normal Christian girls with quote/unquote "worldly" values moreso than the women I'm interested in. Unfortunately, our values don't match up.
Strange world we live in. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 2:30:06 AM | ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
 
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. -Benjamin Franklin | |
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Maxx2
| | Joined: 5/12/2007
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 2/18/2008 3:18:34 AM | Octoro,
I guess I dont understand your post...Ive met pleanty of christians! Not a single carboard cutout yet! I simply thought the quote was funny as specified in the post. | |
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octoro
| | Joined: 1/24/2008
Msg: 212 | |
| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 2/18/2008 10:01:59 AM | Goalie....you're missing the whole point. You think that Christians are the reasons behind the wars? Ridiculous. There are millions of us who don't care for wars but we unfortunately elected a Congress and President that became asswhyles in power.
If you are the same person before you had kids then ok. But the majority change their whole lives and perspectives once they have one child and enjoy having a place of worship to thank god for blessing us with our family and to grow our children in the same way. | |
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octoro
| | Joined: 1/24/2008
Msg: 213 | |
| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 2/18/2008 10:18:50 AM | | Yeah, Garnet73's post is funny, he's just another wannabee blaming our religion on his separating but looking for a fling cause he still has no woman or kids at 35, big deal! | |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 11:30:45 AM | Octoro.. Not Christians starting wars.. Go back in History.. It is people all believing that their god is the right god that started alot.. Romans against Christians.. The Crusades etc. And now it is some Islam Extremists against USA..
Why do you need a place to go and thank some thing ??.. Instead of spending all the money on these buildings and all the trappings give it to those less fortunate.. Of course why do we have less fortunate is a good question. Aren't we all equal ?? Then shouldn't we all have an equal quality of life given to us by this supreme being.. Why does he play favourites ??
If you want to help there are plenty of causes out there that could use the money more than another building.. Kiva. Org is a great web page where you can lend money to those less fortunate who then use the money to help themselves grow their small business.. From buying some piglets to grow, to getting some more medicine to sell in their local pharmacies.. Has been on Oprah..
Great cause better than the cost of maintaining another building right beside another building that happens to have a slightly different view of the Supreme Guy, both that are mainly empty except for once a week.
So yes a lady that would rather spend her time doing that, thinks completely different than I would so yes I would pass on that profile.. | |
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Render
| | Joined: 4/18/2007
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 2/18/2008 11:52:00 AM | | I don't necessarily see Christian under religious preference and run away. When I see that she lists God or Jesus in her interests, or if, in her "About Me" section, she puts God or Jesus comes first, then that is when I split. It's not because I have an avversion to Christians, but your religious beliefs and mine do not mesh well. There's no point in pursuing it. Even if she's smoking hot, with the body of Venus and a sexual appetite of the Marquis De Sade, if she's talking about God in her profile anywhere but Religion, then it's not going to work. | |
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octoro
| | Joined: 1/24/2008
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 2/18/2008 6:40:59 PM | Nick-89,
Being Agnostic for most of my life I've always made an effort to attend church semi-regularly and to send my kids to sunday school. I love to learn and investigate further of a faith I strongly question as tangible just because those before us have said so. But I've always attended United Churches because living in small towns here and there they seemed to be the only option a lot of time and quite frankly I've never felt more welcomed than at a United Church. And of all the United Churches I've been to I've never seen these "equal rights hippies" you speak of! They aren't the people praising Jesus in the streets or singing hymns in their cars. They may have bible study groups or say grace and prayers before bed but they aren't over the top in any sense. And if we want to compare religions for a second I think the Catholic religion, one of THE largest religions in the world, had it's share of homosexual priests over the past few years who molested young alterboys. I think it's very hypocritical to allow a gay or lesbian to hold pulpit because they are preaching the very scriptures that proclaim homosexuality a sin! LOL And we're to take these people seriously?! I don't want to sound like a cynic or anything but...... | |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 7:04:15 PM |
Romans against Christians.
Romans against Christians? When was this war? I must have missed it...
No, we're not all equal. The only part of the declaration of independence that I could disagree with. Of course they couldn't write the truth which is that while all PERSONS may not be created equal, all PERSONS are eligible for equal treatment under the law. But with slavery thriving in the southern colonies at the time of the writing of the delcaration of independence it would have been impossible to make that statement.
Christian women don't scare me off any more than Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or Zoroastrian women scare me off. It's about the person, and their ability to open their mind to new ideas that I find interesting.
The bottom line is that we should all avoid sexual relations with fundamentalists of any stripe, as that particular trait does NOT need to be passed down. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 8:03:26 PM | Before I post, I must admit that I did not read through all 9 pages as I have a lack of time. However, I felt I needed to post. Therefore, I apologize if I missed something important.
It's funny: I have never considered this an issue before. My aunt and uncle were married quite happily, or at least it appeared so to me, for a couple of decades before he tragically passed on. My aunt was devoutly christian, whilst he was an athiest, like myself. To imagine they never had problems with it would be presumptuous, but suffice to say that they worked it out somehow.
Therefore, I would NOT be "scared off" by someone who posted their religion. I would at least meet and then decide if it was an issue we could not work through very early.
Another argument to support this is that there are varying degrees of devoutness and just because someone lists a religion on their profile certainly does not mean they are a "hardcore" religious fanatic.
To that note: I would have to make it clear to a woman who did consider me a sinner because i was an atheist that she would not be able to continue the relationship on the thought that she could "save me" because I will not budge on this issue and have my own deep seeded reasons that I have very carefully thought through logically.
Thank you. Sorry about the wall of text. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 9:20:59 PM | Christian women are no different than women of other religions for the most part as far as I am concerned. I was raised Christian & my family are all Christian as far as I know.
What I do mind however is the fact that most Christian women that I have met cannot get past the fact that I believe in God but pretty much dislike all religions in general. They seem to believe that a man cannot be a good man unless he is one of religious faith, preferably their own.
That being the case, it is no wonder that I & others like myself just save time & do not contact the owners of "Good Christian Woman seeking good Christian Man" profiles.
You're not scaring anyone off, just deflecting them to other womens profiles that men feel they might get along better with. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 9:23:18 PM | This seems to have wandered off the track (of the questioned asked) and back. Responding to the original question(s):
Do Christian women scare you off? Not in the least. Horrendously paraphrasing, all religions that claim a following to what God gave us are saying they subscribe to doing the best they can for others with what they have been given. Their particular demonination means there's a group they're comfortable sharing with, learning from, and seeking help in achieving this goal. I would be more afraid to date someone who thinks they're perfect enough to accomplish this without the help of others - from some resource.
I don't agree with the fellow that says religion is for weak minded folks. I have found in 51 years of life that those who are more honest about their weaknesses (and we all have them) as well as their strengths are more apt to be successful in maintaining their professed standards of ethics and morals. This is because they regularly examine their actions and beliefs and utilize others who are like minded in doing so to accomplish these ends.
Is it mandatory to subscribe to a religion to accomplish this? No. However, for many it does this very well, and for those of us that believe that there is a known explanation for how we got here the 'big bang theory' cannot explain by itself (where did all the matter come from to start with?), we believe an omnipotent being would know what's best for us and gave us that model/system to follow - and so we do.
Do I think being 'religious' guarantees anything? No. Do I think 'non-religious' people are inferior or inherently 'bad'? Of course not. Though we can (and do) debate this extensively, in response to those who point out that throughout history men have chosen to use religion to do harm (and there are definitely those who have), there are just as many examples of 'non-religious' people becoming overwhelmed by the love (which means so much more than the average definition of it) they have experienced in the company of people religion has helped become the best they can be - and it has been a life-changing experience for them.
I've met athiests that in my opinion are the some of the very best people in the world - seeming to live a life of love better than some (many?) in my church. As good as they are, no one is perfect, perhaps 'religion' might make them even better - hard for me to say and certainly not my place to judge - though my faith says they could find (and should) more support to be that way in a church. I have also met athiests/agnostics as well as 'religious' that appear so lost that they often seem to be hurting themselves and others. Is it wrong for that person to need/seek help? Could not a church possibly help them?
I was told by a friend (comment on my profile) just last night that one of the differences between me and another friend of hers is that I do not 'shove' relgion down her or anyone's throat. If you ask, I will respond, if you're not interested, it's your choice. She also says she appreciates me for being a gentleman. Yes, I can make a decision to be that way without religion. But I give credit to those I share with and learn from at church with helping me do that the best I can. I hope no one takes offense at that since I do not take offense at those who say this practice is not for them.
Appologies for the looooooooong response  , and thank you for letting me weigh in on this question. 
Do I equate someone who is Christian as cold - no way, religious - I hope so, no fun and passion -  oh my, the passion of someone who is totally comitted to another is amazing, and religious people often do that really, really well. And yes, I appreciate seeing someone not afraid to let me know that right up front on their profile. Though I am open to people who profess it as well as those that do not, I can say that I've been refused up front and soon after they bother to read the whole profile, by those who are non-religious or of one particular faith different than my own. *shrugs* - to each their own of course. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2008 10:04:30 PM | My experience with Christian women (mostly black) is that they're crazy in love with me one second but the second they find out I'm non-christian or mostly non-religious, they ditch me
So yah it turns me off because I see them as vastly shallow and self centered. | |
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Posted: 2/19/2008 2:05:17 AM | Yes, Christian women scare me, infact all religious people that say it has any real power in their life kinda scare me a bit. If someone is livin their life for jesus or allah or whatever, that means I'm coming second fiddle to a possibly non-existant being that I A) Can't compete with B) Doesn't need to do anything to earn this devotion C) Probably is hung like a rhino compared to me.
Seriously, I'll bet jesus is built in the pants. How do you compete with a guy like that?
I did however find myself extremely interested in a pretty religious christian girl a few months ago, she literally won't hang out with me because apparently she's worried she would want to date me and dating someone that doesn't believe what she believes isn't something she can do. I don't really blame her for that, it'd be unnecessary friction, but still, the fact is because I would rather devote myself to someone flesh and blood than to someone from a book, it's rough to start a relationship with these girls. | |
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Posted: 2/19/2008 3:18:06 AM |
Yeah, Garnet73's post is funny, he's just another wannabee blaming our religion on his separating but looking for a fling cause he still has no woman or kids at 35, big deal!
Your post is confusing, Octoro, because you don't give me the context of which post you're referring too. However... I can only go by what I can interpret...
You say I'm a "wannabee" . . . wannabee WHAT??? Christian? I don't think so.
"Blaming [your] religion on [my] separating" Not even slightly. Why would I think that your religion (which I don't share, and haven't in over 20 years) would have anything to do with my marriage failing? The ONLY way in which Religion was even a factor in my marriage was that I was married in a church for the sake of appearances. My Ex and I didn't care (she's agnostic) but she thought her family would make a big deal (and I didn't care if mine did).
"looking for a fling" For a short time after I separated, when I wasn't ready for a real relationship, I did have "flings." Trying to date someone before I was ready would have been self destructive and irresponsible. Now that I'm ready, I don't want a "fling" any more. I want the whole meal deal, with all the love and joy, pain and sorrow that it's likely to bring.
"still has no woman" How does this make me different than 98% of the rest of the men and women who are on Plenty of Fish? Don't go worrying your little head about my love life, I do just fine, thanks.
"or kids" If you looked at my profile to see that I don't have kids... you've perhaps ALSO noticed that I'm not sure that I want them. It's not at all common for me to feel that one day isn't much different than another... just another turn of the wheel that grinds our life away. Will politicians be less Evil in the next generation? Pollution under control? People kinder? Less war? More love? I very seriously doubt it. Why would I want to bring more children into this sick and dying world, when I wonder what the hell I'm still doing here?
It took me FIVE PARAGRAPHS to deconstruct your barely literate sentence. Tear out all of the ignorance and vitriol you packed into it, and detoxify it. Before you open your stupid little mouth to me, or anyone else again, you had better look up "Christian Charity" in Wikipedia... get the Cliff's Notes so you don't have to think too hard.
You probably THINK you're defending your precious religion from "Big Bad" Me... but you obviously don't comprehend my posts in this thread. Let me try and dumb it down for you:
1)If a Christian woman fell in love with me, and she believed she would go to heaven, and I would go to hell, she would have to convert me. I can't fault that. I also can't convert, because I don't Believe. This means a Christian woman probably shouldn't get involved with me (or anyone who has devout non-Christian beliefs).
2)Someone claimed that Christians (of both genders) were using Romance as a way to try and convert people. I think that toying with the Soul of another person, and using Love as a weapon to do it is a worse crime than murder. I expressed my revulsion for anyone who would do this in the strongest terms possible without resorting to obscenities.
3)Re: "The Definition of Insanity" To be honest, if someone was attacking Christianity here, it was the poster I was responding to. Basically, he claimed that all the women he wanted because of their Christian Values, were also un-dateable because of their holier than thou attitudes. | |
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octoro
| | Joined: 1/24/2008
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| Do Christian Women Scare You Off ???
Posted: 2/19/2008 1:27:09 PM | I've been a Catholic for life and I understand Deuce98. The religion has went to crap mostly. Just like they depend HEAVILY on their festivals....65% revenue from drinking. I don't care for gays but it's the guy at the top who's on the brink of black and thus accepts anything to get out of black. I don't accept that which is why I'm searching for a single's church because quite frankly, if you're not married at my age in a Catholic or Christian church, you're also looked down upon for that.
If any man willingly touched my son the wrong way....break his jaw first. If he continued...break every bone so he couldn't anymore. I'm not a violent person but family is family. | |
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