| Imagin a world without white supremacy
Posted: 11/9/2007 7:53:01 AM | Oh, and by the way. I work for a company that is owned by a black family. I am the only white person there. They built that company up over the years to be the success it is today. All this was accomplished by a good work ethic and education not by sitting around crying about something that happened 200 years ago and waiting for a monthly Goverment check to come in. They just worked hard to become a success. They did'nt rely on handouts from the goverment. They did it the old fashioned way; went out and worked hard everyday and let go of the excuses.
How about talking about that OP? That instead of complaining and wanting yet more Goverment handouts you encourage people to go out and work for it themselves? I will tell you right now that people will get more satisfaction and self-worth by doing it themselves than relying on some big hefty reparation payment.
And what if the reparation payment was paid out. What happens after then? Are you going to find another excuse to get more goverment handouts once that money is spent and gone?
Yes, you are sending out the wrong message for sure. Lets all be slackers and wait for a cheque each month from the goverment instead of trying to work for something. | |
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| Imagin a world without white supremacy
Posted: 11/10/2007 9:11:15 PM | "Imagin a world without white supremacy"
Ever been to Vancouver, B.C.? Or Richmond? No "white supremacy" there, that's for sure!! | |
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Posted: 11/11/2007 12:50:30 AM | Unfortunately there is now, white supremecy, black supremecy, latino supremecy, gay supremecy, fat people supremecy, anorexic supremecy, etc, but the only ones who get a bad rap are the whites. The reason any prejudice is around is because most think that they deserve a free ride.
Where is spell-check on supremecy???? | |
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Posted: 11/11/2007 1:42:11 AM | Africa was a paradise.
Really?
Why is it then that everyone wants to leave, but no one wants to live there? Sounds like New Jersey. | |
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Posted: 11/11/2007 2:29:42 AM | Hmmm.
What about a world without supremacy in general? Where nobody feels that they can insult, harass, and attack another person for something as trivial as physical appearance? | |
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Posted: 11/13/2007 10:51:34 AM | | I usally don't respond to ignorant people but you are the typical kind of person who is in denial. Sure there are are many black people that have made it in the United States and that one example that you gave is fine but just as the white community has many businesses imagin if the black community had an equal starting point. People like you are happy that we didn't because if we are capable of doing what we are doing today just imagin if the playing fields were equal and they are not. Reaparations is not the issue but ignorant people like you can only think about small things. Why do we have black history ,the negro baseball league, the black business expo in almost all major cities in this country? Because of the disparity. You and most of the others can be in denial which further brings home my point clearily you are a white supremist. If the situation was reversed you could see what I'm talking about but most people like you will say I have a black friend not a friend, maybe one day you will understand. Go to the library or better yet as you are on the computer do your own research there have been millions of books or articles written on this and subjects similiar. People usally stick with things that they can relate to so I don't blame you as you're the average American who is self centered. Europeans tend to believe that they are the only ones with culture. You see no black people have responded why? They have a fear of backlash just like your response. I get more confidence that I am right when I receive responses like yours. Israel is a country of reparations and welfare founded and protected by the United States and that is for all people who say our people should not receive reparations. Yes we should with interest from America, Africa and Europe. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2007 11:04:38 AM | | There are different forms of nationalism but who dominates the world? Name any country and it was colonized by Europe. This country was started with what 13 colonies. Whites don't get a bad rap that is your guilt read some books written by white people on the same subject. Howard Zinns "Peoples History of America".A white man breaks it all down how they even oppress white people. Who are the minute men on the bourders trying to prevent Mexicans from coming into their own country? White people. Who picks the food you eat and does the hard labor? Mexicans are now doing what the African used to do. When the whites came to this country the indiginous people helped them stay alive and as soon as they didn't need there help anymore what did they do? Murdered them that is history written by white people. So imagin a world without white supremacy. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2007 12:38:24 PM | To Oldschooladmir
I am trying hard to get to the essence of what you are trying to say. I know there is frustration there. Maybe attacking a posters character based on his different veiws is just an emotional reaction by you when you feel you are being "jumped on" in these forums. I will not condemn you for that but rather try to re-open an honest dialogue.
You still have'nt answered my question.
If your great, great grandfather committed a murder should you be the one that carries out the sentence today? Yes or no?
If no, then people should'nt have to pay reparation. If "yes" then there would not be one human on this planet who's ancestor did'nt do a bad deed way back when and therefor MR. Oldschoolamir, both you and I are liable to pay reparation as is everyother living human being.
I think what you are really trying to say is "Why do white people think they are better".
Let's talk about that. I know that no matter what race you are born unto you can feel proud of your heritage and culture. It is a right we all share in a democracy. If I was born an Asian I would feel proud when I read my history, researched the art and writings, stood in amazement in front of the unique architecture, etc., Would I be a asian racist then if I let it be known to the world that I was proud of my asian culture?
Every culture in the world has the right to wave their flag. That is , unless you are white. Somehow, if I was to do this I would be deemed a racist or in Mr.Oldschooladmir's opinion guilty of white supremacy.
I will never back down and cower my head in shame because I am white. Just like if I was born black. I am proud of my Irish and Scotish heritage and of all our great writers and poets, artists and musicians, architects and scientists, warriors and of course our whiskey! Am I a racist for just saying what I said?
Instead of running around screaming "you owe me this, you owe me that" the poster should concentrate his efforts into something that is more useful in bringing cultures together and not in driving a wedge between them.  | |
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Posted: 11/13/2007 4:24:51 PM | | Where are all these white supremest? I don't know any by name. They either don't play the race card like the black supremest or the news media will not show them on TV. Maybe they don't want mistreatment of whites on TV. I mean nearly every week, Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson is on TV complaining of what was done to a black person. Someone give me some names so I can google them to see whats up. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2007 5:40:04 PM | | First of all oldschoolamir, whites have invented, devised, cured, discovered practically everything in this world has and society would be in the stone ages if it wasn't for us whites. So I don't mind if someone calls me or other whites supremacists, because based on our accomplishments compared to others we have proven to be better. So call me a white supremacist all you want because I would be proud to be called it, but honestly I couldn't care less what the likes of you thinks of me or any other white person. You should be kissing white people butts that you even have the opportunities and luxuries that you have today. Can you tell me one all black nation in the world that offers you a standard of living that you have here in North America? What have africans ever done for the world? If it wasn't for whites medicating, trying to educate and sending foreign aid to Africa for food and water, most africans today here in North America wouldn't even have been born. By the way, blacks in africa already enslaved other blacks long before they sold them to whites, asians and arabs. Your people sold their own people into slavery for greed, so you only have yourselves to blame. So spare us your nonsense and take your race card somewhere else. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 2:12:54 PM |
because if we are capable of doing what we are doing today just imagin if the playing fields were equal and they are not it seems to me that you are very conflicted...you have a supremecists mind set..
Look to Africa most countries there do not have "White Suprmecy"...what are the conditions there today? | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 2:19:43 PM | | Africa was around long before any white man ever stepped foot on there and it was still a hole just like it is today. The only time Africa flourished was when some of the countries were white ruled. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 2:31:53 PM | So ancient Egypt was just a figment of our imaginations, jax?
Also, a lot of holistic medicine (that works, no less), comes from Asian countries, not "white" countries. China was a major centre of knowledge and technology, as was Persia; those are Asian and Semitic nations, specifically.
Also, while I get really offended by race cards, etc., but I find it alarming that most of you didn't take the time to read over the entire thread and read everything the OP actually said beyond the first page, considering how serious this topic (in general) can be.
If you fight fire with fire, all you get is a vacuum.
Btw, I think white supremacists are clown shoes. They hate Jews for being Jews too, and have the chutzpa to call themselves Christians. It's a SEMITIC RELIGION YOU REDNECK SHITBIRDS. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 2:50:38 PM | | I believe we need more white supremest. Then black supremest may be to afraid to bark so much. They will know someone will be right there to expose their stupidity, or racism. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 2:52:19 PM | No one ever told me the name of some white supremest.
I think white supremacists are clown shoes.-- Maybe thats because they cant afford them. If they would be lazy and receive welfare, maybe they could afford name brand shoes.
I would add more but to save me some time, just reread what action Jax posted. I share his belief. I guess I am a redneck shitbird. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 3:10:07 PM | OP, I understand your views in terms of I totally agree there is a huge distortion in most people of imagined supremacy over others, whether white, black, christian, jew, catholic, protestant, arab, israeli, african, south african, irish, english, chinese, japanese, russian, polish.....this deep illusion of separation that exists in practically all of humanity is and has always been a huge problem. It has resulted in our beliefs that 'we' are superior to another, which naturally makes 'them' inferior. We have mistreated, disrespected, used and abused and killed each other practically always to uphold this severely false belief. Not until we all start tearing down that illusion of separation and start truly seeing each other as ourselves - only then will the slavery of each other stop.
By the way, it is not just the illusion of white supremacy over blacks that needs serious changing, but white supremacy over everyone seems to be the 'norm' these days...always has been a real problem with the white ego I feel.
Remember, Jews (predominantly white) have also been the object of others' supremacy....as all minorities have. So, it's not just a black and white issue here, not at all...though I do understand your feelings...as much as I can.
Imagine a world without white supremacy? I imagine it and 'pray' for it daily....even though I am white. I pray for no imagined supremacy by any race...but unity....seeing all people as equal. Only then do I feel we will really fulfill our promise to truly treat each other as we would wish to be treated...that means treat all others, unconditionally...those words are not just words, but essential truth....essential for our survival ...for humanity's survival.
Reparation? Yes, in the form of forgiveness and understanding we are still learning and all the past helps us become more enlightened daily....or so I hope. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 3:13:38 PM | That has to do with religion, specifically...but if you hate us jews, you're damned right you are; you need a religion change, might make you semitic, speak yiddish and favour hoarding money ;)
Clown shoes, btw, is a harsher way of saying useless and laughable. It has nothing to do with money.
But do yourself a favour, read ALL of what the OP has said. Read all of what people say, specifically, don't cut out the bits that fit your agenda.
It's such a waste of your braincells and someone else's words when you just cherrypick what you want to hear/read. Maybe if you approached the issue a little more cautiously (as you can gather, I ain't exactly politically correct, myself), you might get something from this.
Note that I don't care if I offend anyone on this topic, because anyone that didn't read past the first page and then posted has made themselves look like a grand ignoramus; when you've read half the book, you only have half the story. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 3:14:18 PM | NateC:
Your lips are getting brown from kissing minority butts. I have many books on Ancient Egypt and nad my major was history in College and its been proven by Egyptologists that Northern Africans were Caucasians at that time . So Caucasians built the pyramids there commie. Without whites Africa is nothing but an unfenced zoo. Do you still think the world is flat too? | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 3:21:13 PM | Dude, you wouldn't know a commie if he hobbled you with his hammer. Look out the cold war's startin' again!!
You attacked the OP without reading the entire thread, you just jumped on a bandwagon. So, I'm attacking you. What're you gonna do it, mama's boyfriend? | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 3:27:45 PM | here we go again...this time it's white supremacy acting against another white supremist.....referring to the two posters above purposefully insulting each other now because they disagree.
(you guys do know it's against the forum rules to do what you're doing now and it's likely to get you both banned from posting.) | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 3:44:58 PM | Yeah, he was just pissing me off 50 shades of pissed when I'm already in a bad mood.
His general attitude doesn't help. I was also taking the piss out of white supremacy because they're christians; all other races and everything about them are supposed to be inferior, so why are they practising a semetic religion? ;)
Considering the subject in general is a touchy one, there's people coming in and attacking the OP when they don't realise that he's not presenting a stance but juggling ideas, and people are jumping on it because they don't want to read throught e first couple of pages.
In common english he was talking about what it would be like if white racism disappeared. He did mention reparations, but only as a discussion point; he doesn't favour it.
Of course, white racism isn't going to disappear because every other kind of racism isn't going to disappear, either.
Racism's a touchy subject beause everyone's prejudiced and no one wants to admit it. Well, most don't and others claim they're not prejudiced, they're just better. I'll be one of the last to deny it and one of the first to admit it. I'm neither proud of it nor ashamed of it; judgement is part of our nature, and if it wasn't, we'd be in far worse shape than we are. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2007 3:48:32 PM | | Gee NateC thanks for taking time away from your blowup doll to grace us with your nonsense. I think the OP needs some more of your ass kissing. I know what a communist is? Its a foll like you that actually believes all races are equal and that we can and should all live together in one of your fantasy worlds. And I don't think anyone needs t worry about you attacking them, all 140 lbs pounds of you. By the way, I am not x-tian, I am an Odinist or Asatru take your pick? | |
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