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 claire2282

Joined: 12/27/2006
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Posted: 12/2/2007 3:38:56 PM
She's from London, in London people have their own dialect, she writes how she speaks. I know that some of my Jamaican relatives write how they speak, for example they write lickle instead of little because that is how they speak. You buy Jamaican papers such as The Gleaner and that is how it is written out. Why? They speak English same as everybody else, there is no such language as Jamaican! Those people are intillectual people with 1st class degrees but they write like that. It's a common thing so i don't understand why everyone is picking up on it? It doesn't mean she's stupid it just means she writes how she speaks. I can't believe people would drop in to this thread just to say that! Why would you come here just to have a go at someone, does it make you all feel good?!

 Cunning_linguist

Joined: 10/19/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 3:59:22 PM
Well firstly tho she isnt jamaican

Secondly I went to school with several jamaicans and the funny thing was they were taught to read and write in the exact same way us honkies were believe it or believe it not

But the allegedly "jamaican" way of speaking is also used by white people who ARE either semi illiterate OR who are just lazy typers/writers as well as people who text more than they talk

But irrespective of the reason and also irrespective of someones skin colour that doesnt give them a god given right to write in a lazy manner and not have people dislike it, they only have the right to do it, nothing more

Infact if you check the thread about pet peeves on profiles you will see that the lazy typing or "txt spk" is one of the more common things that gets on peoples tits which also doesnt mean anyone should not do it just because of that either
 claire2282

Joined: 12/27/2006
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Posted: 12/2/2007 4:42:25 PM
WHAT? You went to school with several Jamaicans? What did you live in Jamaica then or just visit every now and again?!.... Unless you lived in Jamaica or your schoolmates came from Jamaica then you didn't go to school with any Jamaicans!!! And unless your Jamaican schoolmates grew up in Jamaica then they wouldn't speak Jamaican anyway so i'm not sure what on EARTH your trying to demonstrate with that example???
 Cunning_linguist

Joined: 10/19/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 5:03:09 PM
funny you should say that actually

Firstly three in the class WERE jamaican despite having lived in the UK all their lives, same as irish people are still "irish" even if born elsewhere and asians ditto

But, two brothers had moved from jamaica during the second year at school when their dad got a job in the UK

The others I couldnt really say where they were born, but they were still jamaican nonetheless, its sort of easy to spot you see

. so yup, even with your totally eroneous benchmark I DID go to school with "jamaicans" and as I said they were taught the exact same version of english as the rest of the class were

But the reason its as eroneous a point as your meaningless drivel is that firstly the person you are trying to stick up for with your unintelligible nonsense isnt jamaican, she also obviously doesnt live in nor was born in jamaica it would seem to be safe to assume, so her talking in moron speak rather than english has nothing whatsoever to do with jamaica, jamaicans or jammy dodgers for that matter does it? So what were YOU trying to demonstrate by spewing out totally unrelated ethnic claptrap in connection with someone who simply chooses to write in a fashion that many find annoying and many will also see as being the witterings of an idiot who "cor spell propa like innit"


Infact even your idiotic claim that ONLY people who grow up in jamaica speak with a jamaican slur is nonsense, its like saying only asians who grew up in pakistan speak urdhu, and both are equally innacurate you'll find petal
 claire2282

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Posted: 12/2/2007 5:50:50 PM
NO! People who were born in Britain are black British. I find it completely funny that your trying to teach a Jamaican descendant about her own ethnicity!!! A person who was born in Jamaica does not speak the same as a person born or raised in England their whole life and a person who came to England at an older age has NOT been taught the same English as we have!!! Funny how you admit you don't know where 2 of the lads were born and yet you ASSUME they were Jamaican just because they were black!!! So knowledgeable you are! I was using the Jamaican thing as an example and God knows WHY you chose to pick an arguement out of it. The****ey accent is a strong one like the Jamaican one and they have their own dialect, they write how they speak, i bet u'll find there's a lot of Londoners do it!
 Cunning_linguist

Joined: 10/19/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 6:10:12 PM
Well I assume they were jamaican because jamaicans have a very distinctly different physiology to africans, hence me not including the africans in the count oddly enough

As for


and a person who came to England at an older age has NOT been taught the same English as we have!!!


They WERE sitting in the exact same classroom, they WERENT being taught from different text books, they DID sit the exact same exams

What they did before is irrelevant, what I said was they were when in this country taught the exact same english as everyone else, if they CHOSE to write some spastic version of it outside of school thats a choice nothing more and doesnt alter the version they WERE taught when at school


As for londoners doing it they probably do, scousers too and mancunians and probably some brummies. But so what? Just because they DO do it doesnt mean people arent allowed to find it iritating, view them as borderline retarded or criticise them for doing it does it?

In a nutshell,,,,,

Anyone does have the inalienable right to write as they speak IF they choose to

But

Anyone reading it also has the exact same inalienable right to view them as an idiot, lazy, retarded or anything else they feel about people who do that

Niether has any more right than the other

Well, until they try applying for jobs writing like a txt speaking simpleton of course
 claire2282

Joined: 12/27/2006
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Posted: 12/2/2007 6:31:17 PM
There aren't only Jamaicans and Africans, they are Beijans, Trinadians, St Lucians, ect, they are all West Indians, they are not all Jamaicans. Anyway, back to the subject: just because someone does something you don't like doesn't mean you have to nitpick like that poster did up there because THAT is not attractive either! He has a right to say what he wants but if he's going to criticise the OP for one thing then do another himself then that makes him a hypocrite. And if he has a right to tell the OP what he thinks then i too have a right to tell him what i think. Right? And actually i think u'll find it's off topic and against the rules. And before you say it, so is this, so that's all i'm going to say on the matter. Go argue somewhere else!
 Cunning_linguist

Joined: 10/19/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 6:43:34 PM
The word hypocrit is vastly overused and mostly innacurately

For him to have been a hypocrit he WOULD have had to have criticised her in the same manner of typing as she was doing because being hypocritical is criticising someone for doing something you do yourself


As he didnt do it himself he wasnt being a hypocrit


Infact youre being far more of one because you are criticising him for criticising her

So by you saying you dont like what he wrote when he was simply doing the same to her then you ARE doing what you are criticising him for doing lol

And that IS hypocrisy

But that aside yup, of course you have the same right to criticise what he wrote as he has, I havent said otherwise


As for it being against the rules isnt it still part of the topic seeing as its discussing something posted on the thread? Some of the rules on this place seem a bit vague

Anyhoo, its impossible to solitarily argue you will find, although personally I was debating the point, arguements are something totally different
 claire2282

Joined: 12/27/2006
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Posted: 12/2/2007 6:56:40 PM
Oh i doubt that it's IMPOSSIBLE...i'm pretty sure that you do it all the time!!! And i didn't say i didn't like what was wrote ? So by the same token i guess your a hypocrite on two accounts then aren't you. 1) you wrote tho instead of though and your spelling is all to**** And 2) your criticising me for criticising somebody else. And yes it is against the rules as you have to address the ORIGINAL post. And i wasn't criticising his spelling anyhow but now i'm criticising yours so yeah i'm a hypocrite and proud of it. Goodbye!!!
 mlsaarln

Joined: 9/23/2006
Msg: 360
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Posted: 12/2/2007 7:18:12 PM

So by that analogy then you think we should still have slavery JUST because we "could" enslave blacks?

Cunning, ya know I love ya, but.... there is a difference between "could" and "made for". I don't think you're comparing apples to apples. Women do have some control over whether or not men become fathers, but so do men, to an extent. God DID make man able to stop themselves!
 Huggles

Joined: 12/15/2006
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Posted: 12/2/2007 7:35:43 PM
Um, how did this thread get to the post's question to debating language? Take it to another room you two!

First of all, perhaps you're friend should be on here (or in therapy - in a good way, that wasn't meant deragatory) asking that question if she want's other's opinions.

I say, it's her body. The father states he doesn't want any part of the situation (loser). But, it IS her body. Does she know exactly what's going to happen to her body, mind and psyche during this time....?

IMO...she's not ready, mentally, phsically or financially.
 Bikerscum

Joined: 10/21/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2007 10:20:45 PM
He doesn't want to pay child support for 18 years.

He's out of luck.

She can take his money, now, legally.

Yay!

This is why I want nothing to do with women. They wanna use you, there's nothing you can do to defend yourself. You want kids, it's up to her. You don't want kids, it's up to her.
 mlsaarln

Joined: 9/23/2006
Msg: 363
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Posted: 12/3/2007 5:20:57 AM
If you don't want kids, get fixed!
In any case, not all women are out to use men, especially for child support. It is NOT a fact of life that children, in particular receiving cs payments, is an occupation! I have no idea where anyone got the idea that most women view pregnancy as a money making opportunity, but you'll never convince me that it's true. CS payments are not disposable income to parents, and if you've ever had to really support a child, you'd know that. Perhaps those of you who have had such experiences simply need to choose your mates more carefully.
 Bikerscum

Joined: 10/21/2007
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Posted: 12/3/2007 6:25:57 AM

If you don't want kids, get fixed!
In any case, not all women are out to use men, especially for child support.


Doctors won't "fix" you unless they feel you've had enough children and/are old enough. Unless you're female. Then, whatever you want you get.
 findurbalance

Joined: 11/19/2007
Msg: 365
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Posted: 12/3/2007 6:47:21 AM
First of all I think you need to go back to school and learn English! That was one of the hardest posts I have had to read.

I htink it is her decision on how she handles the situation. There are many people out there raising kids on their own. I think the father has the right to know if he has a child in the world and he should step to the plate and help raise it or at least support his creation. After all it does take two to make a baby. He doesn't have to be involved in raising the child if he is not ready or chooses not to but he should be held accountable financially to help provide for it.

Now.....back to school for you and get your education!
 mlsaarln

Joined: 9/23/2006
Msg: 366
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Posted: 12/3/2007 10:38:30 AM

Doctors won't "fix" you unless they feel you've had enough children and/are old enough

I'm not sure where you live, but here in the US, once you're no longer a minor, elective surgery is your choice.
 lela_haha

Joined: 3/7/2006
Msg: 367
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Posted: 12/3/2007 10:52:42 AM
I would tell doctors if they wouldn't fix me I'll just end up having an abortion anyway. So by fixing me they are saving a life in there views. Doctors should let women choose to be fixed or not because we have to live with the choise not them.
 claire2282

Joined: 12/27/2006
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Posted: 12/4/2007 3:16:23 AM
In the UK doctors won't allow it for men OR women! I think it's becuase so many people change their mind and go back to get it reversed on the NHS!
 krys315

Joined: 10/25/2007
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Posted: 12/4/2007 8:28:58 AM
of course she should go after suport and leep the baby. No one HAS to have an abortion. Whether he wants the baby or not, he helped make it
 Bikerscum

Joined: 10/21/2007
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Posted: 12/4/2007 9:01:37 AM

of course she should go after suport and leep the baby. No one HAS to have an abortion. Whether he wants the baby or not, he helped make it


In other words, all HER choice.

When the response is "well he should keep his****in his pants" and then you go "yeah, guess I will" then you're like "why you all bitter and shit?"
 1SweetSarah

Joined: 11/6/2007
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Posted: 12/4/2007 11:36:04 AM
"BUT.... she also should not go after dude for child support or visitation... since she is choosing to have a baby he has said he doesn't want.... "


what a load of crap!
if he really didnt want to be a father then he shouldnt have done what it takes to get a child! DUH! please spare me the platitudes about "protection". there is only one failsafe method of not getting pregnant, and neither one of them exercised that option.
RESTRAINT!
so now you are suggesting that this child pay the price for these two idiots just because she didnt think thru her decision to spread her legs beforehand and he didnt think thru his decision to screw her?
regardless of what these two morons wanted, this child deserves to be supported financially by both of them. they owe the chid that much, and more!
from what you say of your friend, and this guy, the best thing for that child would be to give it to someone who doesnt see her/him as a result of a mistake. let someone who actually wants kids, have the baby. if you are any indication of the level of intelligence of this girls friends, or her, best thing would be to give that baby up for adoption. omg your grammar is atrocious!


I could NOT agree more!!!!!
 lela_haha

Joined: 3/7/2006
Msg: 372
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Posted: 12/4/2007 11:48:33 AM
wow this thread is still going lol. Oh my I stick to my side of it don't go after him cause hes an ass anyway. Its just a stupid baby anyway. He shouldn't have to pay anything for something unwanted. She should have been smart enough to know he probably didn't want a kid if he would jump in the sack that quick. Its her stupidity not his. I'm glad she didn't get one if she doesn't believe in abortion. But going after him naa thats not necesarry cause he will probably end up making lots more prego and bailing. Then he'll have fun trying to live a life with someone forever and explaining all these kids he ran away from. lol
 rjpeagles

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Posted: 12/4/2007 9:49:43 PM
Bob lives with Jane for 2 years. Jane has a son, Billy, who has lived with her full-time during this period with little or no support from Billy's bio-dad.

Bob and Jane break-up for a few months. Bob hooks up with an ex-booty call, Linda, a few times. Bob and Jane get back together. Linda informs Bob she is pregnant. Bob says "I'm not ready for my own kids", Linda replies, "well I'm not getting an abortion!!!"

Three (3) months later Jane is pregnant from Bob. Bob and Jane decide it's time they get married and raise a family together, including Billy, who is not Bob's biological son.

Bob fails to financial support the child bore by Linda. But according to some of you that's ok because he told Linda he didn't want any kids. Linda and her child just have to tough it out while Bob plays house with the child HE CHOSE to acknowledge in addition to a child that isn't even his.
 ohsoawesome

Joined: 11/21/2007
Msg: 374
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:08:14 PM
I totally agree with you there, takes two to tango and why should that baby be aborted. Maybe he isn't ready to become a dad but that child didn't ask to be concieved either. Just face up to your responsibilities and instead of thinking with your**** think with your head.
 ohsoawesome

Joined: 11/21/2007
Msg: 375
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:18:01 PM
Good for you girl, they do need to choose more carefully. I hate how they put us all in the same catagory, not all woman are the same and not all guys are the same, if that was the case then I would of given up years ago at finding a partner.
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