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 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 251
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Posted: 12/23/2007 8:31:53 AM

I don't set any filters as I have no problem talking to pretty much anyone. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to date someone much older than me.


"I don't set filters because I want anyone to be able to talk to me; it pi$$e$ me off, though, when people actually DO talk to me!"

Arlo
 Westpark2

Joined: 8/4/2007
Msg: 252
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Posted: 12/23/2007 8:48:22 AM
Why these men can't stick to women their age, I don't know. I have an idea why they don't.... and my only answer to that is GROW UP!!!!!!!so long as it's legal, then get down with your bad selves


So where do Cougars come from? Or at least the term? I can understand some of your frustration due to the deluge of messages you receive. As an attractive woman you no doubt receive more than others..But rest assured I am sure it will not last forever...

As we age the personality becomes more important..........and I am sure you will then be no longer bothered by all those men captivated by your looks.......


The average single male takes out his first mortgage at 32? Please. That is nonsense. I have yet to be out with ONE MAN from my area who owns a house. They're all in apartments, or, living with their friends or parents. I, live in Buffalo NY... and I, have a full time day job.


But does your profile not say student?



I've said it before and I'll say it again... I will never, and never have, slept with a man on a first date. It's my own personal morals, and beliefs, etc... and others, well, to each their own. But if any man pressures me for sex, when we don't even know each oter... there's the door, buddy! NEXT!!!!


Perhaps the local contractor might install a revolving door?


Here's me... waving bye bye to Mr. I don't believe in cars!!!!!

NEXT!!!










Some of you men really think you are so smart, don't you? You know it all and you have it all figured out. Sad.



This, is a mystery that will never be solved. I have been out with way too many little boys this year... and not enough MEN. Little boys who are living with Mommy, letting her do their laundry and cook their meals. Not working, but instead, sitting on HERE all afternoon (when I get on at lunch time, all the unemployed freaks love to message me and chat me up, it's so funny!!!). The little boys who wanna play and hang out... not have a date. Some, have been as old as 45 on the outside, and 13 on the inside. I had one "gentleman", tell our waiter he was "lookin' to impress his date cause sex, was on the menu" ... the waiter, looked like he wanted to run screaming, and ... when dinner was over, that's what I did!!!


I would suggest that a real lady would have gotten up immediately and left the table calling the guy a pig....or a slob.....but then the fact that you sat there and allowed it to be said while you sat at the trough and partook.....says everything
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 253
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Posted: 12/23/2007 8:48:35 AM

If you're talking about online... then when in doubt, read their entire profile. If you don't fit into her listed age range, this means, don't bother. A lot of us REALLY MEAN THAT, too. I don't want a man old enough to be my pops, I think it's just weird (for me!!), if others like that sort of thing...


Yeah, 'cause that was my greeting: "Hey, wanna f*ck?" Of course, I was devious and sneaky enough to write "How are you today?", but she saw right through that.

Arlo
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 254
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Posted: 12/23/2007 8:51:07 AM

I had one "gentleman", tell our waiter he was "lookin' to impress his date cause sex, was on the menu" ... the waiter, looked like he wanted to run screaming, and ... when dinner was over, that's what I did!!!


I would suggest that a real lady would have gotten up immediately and left the table calling the guy a pig....or a slob.....but then the fact that you sat there and allowed it to be said while you sat at the trough and partook.....says everything


Hey, free meal, dude! B'sides, principles only kick in after the first good burp.

Arlo
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 255
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Posted: 12/23/2007 8:53:39 AM
You're acting like it's the fault of the person responding to the IM.


It IS the fault of someone who throws her hands up in the air and acts like a niggling little problem is the end of the world, and is as difficult to solve as untying the Gordian Knot, if that's what you mean.

Arlo
 discoafternoon

Joined: 4/15/2007
Msg: 256
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Posted: 12/23/2007 9:59:48 AM

"I don't set filters because I want anyone to be able to talk to me; it pi$$e$ me off, though, when people actually DO talk to me!"

Arlo



It IS the fault of someone who throws her hands up in the air and acts like a niggling little problem is the end of the world, and is as difficult to solve as untying the Gordian Knot, if that's what you mean.


Now you're just sounding bitter.
 Ave Caesar

Joined: 11/11/2007
Msg: 257
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Posted: 12/23/2007 10:45:54 AM

Dear sweet GOD I can't even begin to tell you how sick and tired I am of men who are old enough to be my Dad, messaging me to hit on me. I don't reply... and these are almost ALWAYS the ones who get all bent out of shape and nasty with me (see thread: Making Enemies). They just don't get it. I'm33... I want to meet a man, young enough to still have a family with, and grow old with. When you're 55, that can't happen as well as I hope. 60, no way ever.

Why these men can't stick to women their age, I don't know. I have an idea why they don't.... and my only answer to that is GROW UP!!!!!!!


In many parts of the world it is not unusual, even common, for men to marry much, much younger women. You are really speaking out of total ignorance.
 discoafternoon

Joined: 4/15/2007
Msg: 258
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Posted: 12/23/2007 11:04:32 AM

In many parts of the world it is not unusual, even common, for men to marry much, much younger women. You are really speaking out of total ignorance.


It's really just about personal preference. If a woman doesn't want to date a man who is 10 or 20 years older than her, she should be able to say that without people telling her she's wrong. If a man wants to date someone 10 or 20 years younger than him, fine. If he hits on a younger woman who is not interested, he needs to just move on and find someone else who is interested.
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 259
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Posted: 12/23/2007 11:09:22 AM

"I don't set filters because I want anyone to be able to talk to me; it pi$$e$ me off, though, when people actually DO talk to me!"

Arlo




It IS the fault of someone who throws her hands up in the air and acts like a niggling little problem is the end of the world, and is as difficult to solve as untying the Gordian Knot, if that's what you mean.


Now you're just sounding bitter.


Bitter? Nah. Amused? That'd be me...

Arlo
 Ave Caesar

Joined: 11/11/2007
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Posted: 12/23/2007 11:22:25 AM

It's really just about personal preference. If a woman doesn't want to date a man who is 10 or 20 years older than her, she should be able to say that without people telling her she's wrong. If a man wants to date someone 10 or 20 years younger than him, fine. If he hits on a younger woman who is not interested, he needs to just move on and find someone else who is interested.


I agree with you, of course, but the poster acted as though it's wrong and immature for an older man to approach a woman who's much younger. It's not wrong, sick, or twisted, and it can be quite a good thing for both parties. She's just completely misinformed about things. I have a cousin who is my grandmother's brother's son, who is younger than I. My great-uncle's first wife died and he remarried, to a much younger woman, and they had children.
 DemonLeather

Joined: 8/10/2007
Msg: 261
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Posted: 12/23/2007 11:23:16 AM
Yeah.. HOW EVER You figure the math.. I'M NOT TRAINING ANYMORE! I mean, young girls are fun,.. but geeze. Sometimes, it's like a 2 yr old,.. with the questions.. "why is the sky blue?"... "how do my eyes see what they do??" etc etc.
Gimmie a mature woman, who's already figured things out (or at least put other things in front of those questions. ) I've had My fill of "youguns" and raised more than enough between my marrages.. to keep me happy... I'm not really big on hearing "oOOOOOOooooOOOooh DADDY!" Now...IF you can find a MATURE21 yr old,.. send her My way!...
 Ave Caesar

Joined: 11/11/2007
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Posted: 12/23/2007 11:28:20 AM

I've had older men ask me out. I nicely tell them I'm not interested in dating someone that much older. Some say ok and move on. Others continue to try and tell me what I'm missing out on. When I still don't want to go out with them, it has been them who have resorted to insults and put-downs. Now, I'm not saying that women don't do the same thing. I've just seen this happen more than a few times.

I don't set any filters as I have no problem talking to pretty much anyone. But, that doesn't mean I'm going to date someone much older than me


Once the woman is past 30 or so, it really should not make that much difference how old the man is, so long as he is healthy.
 teggs

Joined: 2/3/2004
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Posted: 12/23/2007 11:30:29 AM
Men are genetically disposed to chase young tail. 18 years old is ideal for safe childbearing and 40 is getting too old. Facts !
Now to the social element...Feminism has screwed m/f relations very badly...so much so that men won't risk getting de-b*lled for 20 years on a bad pitch, should they get 'lucky' too easily.
Because of the new 'working ethic ' females (esp. of non- religous leanings) can easily get tempory relief from sexual frustration (Laddette culture)- like males always had to.
Drink fuels this illusion.
Flirting leads to many approaches, but also false rape charges
Check : Female alcohol consumption and assoc. disease figures.
Conclusion: Young women are often looking in the wrong places for a good relationship.
When men try to explain all this obvious stuff- they get taken to task for 'knowing it all'.
Believe me..you gotta 'know' that thing -if a man.
Some women have posted an awareness of this..but the average ' gentlewomen' as of yore...will not want to tangle with the modern 'liberated' older woman -so will be under-represented here. Insoluble comms gap! - Probably for decades.
Men can have children late in life and love their partners even more for it- given any encouragement. It don't take much.
Older men are a good bet - if fit and of suitable personality.
Finally younger men play 'low resources' pitch so they don't get targeted.
They are not really attractive long term to most women but that is the deal.
Suits many males but not many women. Brave New World folks !!
 dancecard

Joined: 3/19/2006
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Posted: 12/23/2007 2:38:10 PM
Message 244 good read!

I think that you hit the nail on the head ~ some of these young sweeties need to grow a little.

You would not believe what I had to pass up a few nights ago. ~ Oh man, she was young and pretty and all a guy could want ~ she was just too young. ~ I think she was using me to keep some other guys away from her. ~ She wanted to hold my hand ` ~ acted hurt when I had to shake her loose. ~ but thats just the way it is ~` I didn't mind running a little interference for her ~ but she needed to understand I wasn't buying it. ~

Some of these youngsteers are all over the chart with odd and strange behavior.

This girl here ~ what ever her name is (on the thread)~ reacts to older men ~ like a 6 month old does to peas ! ~ nasty face and spits them out! funny! lol ~ It's just another behavior of immaturity. ~ making her opinion valid to the equally immature.

people do and behave many ways for many reasons ~

Remember driving your kids to school ? and they are embrassed with you ( their parents) for christ sakes. ~ The insanity of immaturity. ~ dar
 discoafternoon

Joined: 4/15/2007
Msg: 265
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Posted: 12/23/2007 4:59:07 PM

Once the woman is past 30 or so, it really should not make that much difference how old the man is, so long as he is healthy.


Again, it's all about personal preference. I'm almost thirty and dating someone 10 years older would probably be pushing it.
 blueyes101968

Joined: 9/23/2007
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Posted: 12/23/2007 5:12:49 PM
Why do you feel the need to suggest that men in their 40's and 50's date someone in their age group? When you find someone you want to be with, age isn't as big of a deal. But, they're are some hot guys in their 40's who have it all together and you could be missing out. I'm 39 and I tend to avoid over 50 because my mom is 59 so anyone old enough to be my father would pose a problem long term, but I suppose if I was interested I wouldn't totally dismiss it either. I generally end up dating men in their late 40's. Not sure why. That seems to be the age group that is interested in me and I seem to get along well with them, intellectually especially. I agree with everyone else, stop whining, change your profile and specify the exact age group you want. Don't assume all men in their 40's and 50's want to date twenty-somethings either.
 WhereForArtThou

Joined: 5/13/2007
Msg: 267
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Posted: 12/23/2007 6:10:37 PM
I'm sorry, but, this is all about preference. Not everyone is comfortable dating someone who is much older (or younger!) than them. And that's OK. Why people take it so personally that someone doesn't want to date them because of their age, is beyond me. Some people won't date people shorter than them, some won't date people who aren't the same religion/faith, color, shape, size... it's all preference. And it's part of dating... and life. It's not any reason for people to go getting all bent out of shape. I understand rejection sucks, but, that too, is part of life.

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"Once the woman is past 30 or so, it really should not make that
much difference how old the man is, so long as he is healthy."
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Hey ... not everyone feels the same on this. I'd never feel comfortable dating a man 20 or more years older than me. I hope to some day meet a great guy, settle down, and have kids -- doing that when one of us is 53, I think would be something I'd not be willing to take on. So, this is all based on personal preference and opinion.

Why people are so hard on each other for having preferences, I can't grasp. To each their own... ya know?!?! There's really no reason for anyone to be going at each other's throats over this, and there's no reason for being to resort to insults, and personal attacks. Dating, is hard enough I think, don't you?

And to the poster below me...

"Don't knock it till you try.
Mom is awesome the second time around!"

Wow. I'll take your word for that ;)



 broward

Joined: 1/30/2007
Msg: 268
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Posted: 12/23/2007 6:16:37 PM

You know it all and you have it all figured out


Hmmm.
Yeah, pretty much.


boys who are living with Mommy, letting her do their laundry and cook their meals.


Don't knock it till you try.
Mom is awesome the second time around!


Not working, but instead, sitting on HERE all afternoon


I grant you permission take my old job.
With my blessings.
Allah be unto you.
 Wemble_on_KrimiaRiver

Joined: 9/18/2007
Msg: 269
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Posted: 12/23/2007 7:28:23 PM
Right, it is about personal preference, but just because a man is interested in a younger woman does not make him sick, weird, or bizarre. I have a female friend that is young enough (32) to be my daughter, but anybody who sees us together would never mistake me for her father. Also, she has been on her own since she was 16, half her life, and has a 9 year old son so she has lived a lot and has taken some hard knocks while I have had a pretty easy time of it. Every individual case is different and some young people can be very mature while some older ones are not. But it is pretty typical here at POF to make blanket statements about people and relationships and to impose their own personal arbitrary choices about things such as age and then try to pass it off like it came from the mouth of God.
 rock_hunter

Joined: 11/6/2007
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Posted: 12/23/2007 9:06:07 PM

Why do you feel the need to suggest that men in their 40's and 50's date someone in their age group?

Cuz her mom can't find a guy to date and she is driving her crazy?
 tomozzo

Joined: 6/19/2006
Msg: 271
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Posted: 12/23/2007 9:43:42 PM
you can never tell where the love of your life will come from. sometimes it's from a most unexpected source.
 nickphilosoph

Joined: 10/26/2007
Msg: 272
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Posted: 12/23/2007 9:54:10 PM
Fron post 270:

"Cuz her mom can't find a guy to date and she is driving her crazy?"

Hm, there may be a point here!!!!

Thus next time I wish to flirt with a younger woman (I usually prefer my age or older), I will first:

a) Ask her what age her father is.
If her father is older than me, then go to (b)
If father same age or younger than me, stop

b) Ask her if her mother is single
If mother is not single, the proceed to commencing to flirt with the younger woman
If mother is single, then should I ask her to hook me up with her mom???????

Dating has become even more complicated!!!!!

O tempora, O mores!

 Jaymore10

Joined: 9/9/2007
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Posted: 12/24/2007 12:27:52 AM
I've commented on this tread before... somewhere in the last eleven pages. The response by discoafternoon in Msg 258 struck me, though:

It's really just about personal preference.
I agree 100%.

If a woman doesn't want to date a man who is 10 or 20 years older than her, she should be able to say that without people telling her she's wrong.
I agree with this, too, but pay attention to the wording.

If a man wants to date someone 10 or 20 years younger than him, fine. If he hits on a younger woman who is not interested, he needs to just move on and find someone else who is interested.
Again, I agree. Notice, however, the subtle differences in the wording. Because the sentences start out the same, there is some implication of equality. However the conclusions are not the same. If equality had been intended, the last part would have read, "If a man wants to date a woman who is 10 or 20 years younger than him, he should be able to say that without people telling him he's wrong." That's that. Instead, the poster says "fine" -- often a substitute for the disdainful brushoff "whatever" -- and goes on to further qualify. Somehow the overall feeling or framing is that the female is in the right, and the male is in the wrong. This sentiment seems to pervade this thread even when it's couched in politically-correct speech.
 scorpiomover

Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 12/24/2007 3:41:05 PM
RE msg 247:

Discoafternoon, check the forums. Women are regularly complaining that men are insulting them when they say they aren't interested in dating them. These insults have nothing to do with age. You'd get them if you turned down a guy your own age.
Yes, this is true. However, I was replying to someone in this thread that was specifically talking about older men/younger women.
Let's back up:

Discoafternoon: What I don't get is why all the guys are getting upset. So, the girl wants to date people closer to her own age. Why is that a big deal? If you're older and want to date a younger woman, find one who actually wants to date someone older. Why get upset and offended when someone younger doesn't want to date you?

Arlo Troutman: It may just be me, but I think men get upset, when they do get upset about it, when the younger woman resorts to insults and put-downs. I know I was, well, not upset: mildly amused was closer to it, when "my" young 'un started with the "Dirty Old Man" slanging. What killed me was that she ACCEPTED my IM request to SPECIFICALLY tell me this, rather than just ignore/refuse the request in the first place.

Discoafternoon: I've had older men ask me out. I nicely tell them I'm not interested in dating someone that much older. Some say ok and move on. Others continue to try and tell me what I'm missing out on. When I still don't want to go out with them, it has been them who have resorted to insults and put-downs. Now, I'm not saying that women don't do the same thing. I've just seen this happen more than a few times.

Scorpiomover: Discoafternoon, check the forums. Women are regularly complaining that men are insulting them when they say they aren't interested in dating them. These insults have nothing to do with age. You'd get them if you turned down a guy your own age.

You asked why men get upset. Arlo Troutman said that it's because these women agree to talk to older men, and then insult them, before these men have said a word. You then replied that you got asked out by older men, and when you rejected them, they insulted you. In other words, it's the men. However, your post made it clear that they DIDN'T INSULT YOU UNTIL AFTER YOU TURNED THEM DOWN. So I pointed out that the reason that these men insulted you, was because YOU TURNED THEM DOWN, and it had nothing to do with age. What Arlo Troutman was saying was that many young women don't even do what you do. They are not polite. They don't turn the man down. These young women just start insulting him BEFORE HE ASKED HER OUT, WHILE HE WAS STILL SPEAKING POLITELY TO HER.

Are you telling me that if your brother IM'd a younger woman, and she accepted, and before he even got to ask her out, she started called him a pervert, that he was out of order?
 scorpiomover

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Posted: 12/24/2007 3:44:35 PM

I don't want a man old enough to be my pops, I think it's just weird (for me!!), if others like that sort of thing...
You don't want to date someone old enough to be your pops, because having sex with someone old enough to be your pops, would be like having sex with your pops?

What if he's old enough to be your brother?
LMAOROTF




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