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Posted: 12/24/2007 5:54:15 PM | Great post, 275!
I guess the following algorithm for approaching a younger woman is in order?
Step A: Man X: Hi, how old is your father?
1. If her father's age smaller or equal to Man X's age, then abort!
2. If father's age greater than Man X's, then proceed to step B.
Step B: Man X: Is you mother single?
1. If her mother is single, ask to be introduced to mother (so that she does not get upset with daughter if she dates Man X)!
2. If mother is not single, then proceed to step C.
Step C: Man X: .... (proceeds with flirting younger woman)
Step B2 (optional):
Man X: How old is your brother?
lol lol lol lol
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Posted: 12/24/2007 8:08:20 PM | ^^^ Great post.
But don't forget step D:
Monday, May. 29, 1939
Into the hospital at Pisco, Peru last month came a tired, ragged Indian woman from the foothills of the Andes. She led by the hand a shy little girl, scarcely three feet tall, with chestnut braids and an enormously bulging abdomen. Pointing to the frightened child, the Indian woman begged Surgeon Geraldo Lozada to exorcise the evil spirits which had taken possession of her. Certain that little Lina Medina had an abdominal tumor, Dr. Lozada examined her, received the surprise of his life when he discovered she was eight months pregnant.
Ten days ago in Lima's maternity hospital, surrounded by an audience of 35 Peruvian doctors, Surgeon Lozada performed a Caesarean section on 70-lb. Lina, brought forth a lusty, six-pound baby boy. But bewildered Lina would have nothing to do with her child, could not comprehend that he belonged to her. Silent and uncommunicative, she lay on her hospital bed fondling a shiny, new doll, fingering with reverence a holy picture pinned on her pillow.
Lina's mother, swearing that she did not know the father of her grandchild, produced a village birth certificate indicating an age of four years and eight months for Lina.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,931268,00.html?promoid=googlep
Step D: Are you at least 4 years 8 months younger than me? If not, you could be my mother.
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Posted: 12/25/2007 8:40:03 PM |
You asked why men get upset. Arlo Troutman said that it's because these women agree to talk to older men, and then insult them, before these men have said a word. You then replied that you got asked out by older men, and when you rejected them, they insulted you. In other words, it's the men. However, your post made it clear that they DIDN'T INSULT YOU UNTIL AFTER YOU TURNED THEM DOWN. So I pointed out that the reason that these men insulted you, was because YOU TURNED THEM DOWN, and it had nothing to do with age. What Arlo Troutman was saying was that many young women don't even do what you do. They are not polite. They don't turn the man down. These young women just start insulting him BEFORE HE ASKED HER OUT, WHILE HE WAS STILL SPEAKING POLITELY TO HER.
Well, the insults happen after the older man tries hard to tell me why dating an older man like himself is a good idea. After I've said again that I was not interested, then the insults start. Sure, it's happening because I turned him down, but also because I thought he was too old. I'm sure it happens with other ages as well, however, I was specifically talking about older men.
As for what other women say, I can't comment other than to say that not all women are insulting men before they say anything. Or even after.
Are you telling me that if your brother IM'd a younger woman, and she accepted, and before he even got to ask her out, she started called him a pervert, that he was out of order?
Not quite sure how my brother fits into this, as he is not in the older man category. heh. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2007 8:56:49 PM | An "older" man or woman has IMO every right to politely ask any other adult person out and the younger person has of course the right to turn the offer down, but using the age as a stated reason constitutes IMO some form of ageism, and as such, it can draw a "political" reaction (I would not personally do that, but I can understand why some older men would feel insulted by the reasoning for the refusal) but such a reaction should in any case be civilised, "political" and brief, anything more than that constitutes IMO inappropriate conduct. The same applies to weight, looks, race, etc. One has every right to refuse but not insult the asker!
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Posted: 12/26/2007 4:34:26 AM |
Again, I agree. Notice, however, the subtle differences in the wording. Because the sentences start out the same, there is some implication of equality. However the conclusions are not the same. If equality had been intended, the last part would have read, "If a man wants to date a woman who is 10 or 20 years younger than him, he should be able to say that without people telling him he's wrong." That's that. Instead, the poster says "fine" -- often a substitute for the disdainful brushoff "whatever" -- and goes on to further qualify
I saw a comedian on television a couple of days ago who made reference to the Female "F" Word -- "fine". He said, "Guys, when your lady says 'fine', you know you're f*cked!"
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Posted: 12/26/2007 4:43:12 AM |
Arlo Troutman said that it's because these women agree to talk to older men, and then insult them, before these men have said a word. ...
What Arlo Troutman was saying was that many young women don't even do what you do. They are not polite.
What Arlo Troutman was saying was that SOME (a very FEW) young women get snarky immediately when they get hit on by older men, and THIS may be why some older men get insulted. My anecdote was exactly that -- an anecdote, somewhat humourous; and I'm quite willing to accept that it was rare, almost unique, in that the young "lady" in question started slinging insults immediately. Quite frankly, I don't know where you got that I "said" this happened often, or typified relations between older men/younger women.
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Posted: 12/26/2007 4:59:33 AM | If a man asks a woman 20 years his junior out, but would never consider doing the same with a woman 20 years his senior, than that man discriminates based on age and has no right to feel insulted at all if he is turned down because of his age. He is only getting exactly what he is giving. This happens with both sexes but men are much more likely to have ridiculously lopsided preferred age ranges and seem much more likely to be offended when someone much younger (with whom they'd have little in common anyway) turns them down.
I say if you want to date more than 10 years out of your own age range, it's fine. However, you must accept that most people don't. Most people would rather have someone who is about in the same lifestage, physically similar in attractiveness, and who has similar memories and interests. Statistically, a large majority of couples stay within about 5 years of their own age for those very reasons (the average difference in age of married couples is actually only about 2 years, with the husband older). If you want to buck the odds, do it knowing that it will take a lot more tries to find similar minded people, and do it graciously and patiently, because people who are simply looking for a partner similar to themselves don't deserve to be insulted because of it. | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 5:23:47 AM | Females and "fine". I can remember my daughter using that word when she was just 3. You'd tell her something she couldn't do and she would go, "fine" and you knew she didn't think it was fine at all. I wonder if it is a gender thing?
I totally agree with the notion that any adult has the right to ask any other adult for a date. If somebody does not want to date or potentially develop a relationship with a person who is older or even much older, then that's there choice. But nobody is guaranteed a tomorrow. When it comes to a man who is old enough to be a woman's father, if he is fit and younger than his age and they love each other, then so what? If a woman with a much older man ends up spending what is the best 20 or 30 years of her life with him, then she is way ahead of most people. Also, if you would date somebody 10 years younger than yourself, how then does that obligate you to be willing to date somebody 10 years older? Is this one of the hidden Commandments, or did somebody make up some relationship rules when I was not looking?
There should be no reason that people cannot be decent with one another. If you are rejected, for whatever reason, there is no reason to get pissy and insulting about it. If you cannot deal with rejection, then perhaps dating is not for you. By the same token there is no reason for a younger woman to lead on an older man just so she can slap him down because she considers him to be some kind of pervert. Again, adults have the right to contact any other adult, particularly ones on a dating site and especially if they do not specify an age limit. | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 7:28:05 AM | Since I have been exclusively dating women 15 to 25 years younger than myself I am more than merely aware of the difficulties in doing so. Many if not most good looking young women are not interested in dating a man substantially older than themselves...but some are - and they are out there! First of all, I never attempt to date a younger woman who is clearly not interested in dating me. Most of the time in my experience a younger woman who I have ended up dating made the first move. She either made a comment to me, smiled in an inviting manner or took a conversation in a dating direction. A man needs to listen to a potential date's comments and learn to read her body language.
Too, many older women disapprove of seeing older men and younger women couples together. They actually seem to hate it! One must accustom oneself to their hostile glares and caustic comments. What I hear frequently from such angry older women is that all the younger woman is after is the older man's money...and the older women are not? Hello! Many of the younger women I date treat me frequently to lunches, dinners and honor me with nice gifts. They are more egalitarian in their dating habits than older women who usually want men to pay, pay and pay some more. On top of it all, younger women usually love sex whereas older women have little or no interest. | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 7:44:19 AM | re post 282
"If a man asks a woman 20 years his junior out, but would never consider doing the same with a woman 20 years his senior,"
I Happen to be in a category of men who would consider an ADULT and in control of her mental capacities woman irrespective of her age, so
"than that man discriminates based on age and has no right to feel insulted at all if he is turned down because of his age."
1. Do I see the "funny" premise here: That it has to be the man who considers in both cases, ie that a woman can expect to be flirted but not flirt the man.
2. Equally opportunity does not apply to dating, so one cannot control or expect to be given one, but what he/she can expect if not to be insulted by having age, race, weight, height, etc quoted in the reply, THAT IMO is the "insult".
"He is only getting exactly what he is giving."
Not quite. See (2) above.
"This happens with both sexes but men are much more likely to have ridiculously lopsided preferred age ranges and seem much more likely to be offended when someone much younger (with whom they'd have little in common anyway) turns them down."
Again, see (2) above.
Men are more likely to what? Where (what country or state)?
"I say if you want to date more than 10 years out of your own age range, it's fine."
Who laid the "law" for that? The Texas legislature, NATO, the UN, Oprah, Dr. (name a name), "Dear ...", or an 11th commandment recently found?
"However, you must accept that most people don't."
In a democratic society, what matters is the laws of the land and not social "laws" of any kind. Is there such a law in TX?
"Most people would rather have someone who is about in the same lifestage, physically similar in attractiveness, and who has similar memories and interests."
Again, says who?
"Statistically, a large majority of couples stay within about 5 years of their own age for those very reasons (the average difference in age of married couples is actually only about 2 years, with the husband older)."
Statistics and majority "practices" do not constitute "law".
"If you want to buck the odds, do it knowing that it will take a lot more tries to find similar minded people, and do it graciously and patiently,"
I woud agree on the graciously (that applies in all cases anyway) and patiently (again for all cases).
"because people who are simply looking for a partner similar to themselves don't deserve to be insulted because of it."
Neither do the ones who are seeking somene NOT similar to themselves and that is IMO a matter of human rights ideology. The problem, ie what causes the "insult" is not being turned down, but HOW and w/o being insulted for simply asking!
I would expect that is global "elementary my dear Dr. Watson" and common sense and courtesy. But personally, I do not contact younger women that much, I prefer same or older, thus I do not mind being even insulted, because then I simply know that the person I contacted is not of the "same" manners and ideology upbringing as mine so I would not be interested in her at any age!!! lol
PS. In the algorithm I presented in a prvious post we can thus add another step.
3. Asks her if her grandmother is single or not
1. If grandmother single, asks woman to introduce him to her grandmother
2. If grandmother not single .....
PS2. The title of the thread should be "Are you old enough to be my dad and why have you not asked my mother and my grandmother out first anyway?"
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Posted: 12/26/2007 2:11:24 PM | RE 278:
Not quite sure how my brother fits into this, as he is not in the older man category. heh. He might not be to you. But he could easily be to someone else. Just as an example, a lot of 18-year-olds wouldn't date a man over 24. Not most, but enough that he could easily get rejected, if he approached her in a bar or in a coffee shop, and didn't know her, and assumed that she was older.
RE msg 281:
What Arlo Troutman was saying was that SOME (a very FEW) young women get snarky immediately when they get hit on by older men, and THIS may be why some older men get insulted. My anecdote was exactly that -- an anecdote, somewhat humourous; and I'm quite willing to accept that it was rare, almost unique, in that the young "lady" in question started slinging insults immediately. Quite frankly, I don't know where you got that I "said" this happened often, or typified relations between older men/younger women. I stand corrected. I apologise fully. | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 6:51:30 PM | "Too, many older women disapprove of seeing older men and younger women couples together. They actually seem to hate it! One must accustom oneself to their hostile glares and caustic comments. "
I've actually never seen it. Well I did have a friend who was 23 and dated a 38 year old, but she dumped him before he turned 40. Does that count? You had me until you said the younger women usually love sex, if that were the case they would be into the young men. Geez even the older women know that  | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 6:55:08 PM | "You had me until you said the younger women usually love sex, if that were the case they would be into the young men. "
Think again! Re-check assumptions. Especially the latter part of the syllogism! Correlate it with the sexuality of men 38, 40 or 45!
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Posted: 12/26/2007 6:58:44 PM | ^^^ I don't have to re-think anything. Sorry but young women who go for old men are NOT after sex....
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Posted: 12/26/2007 7:00:07 PM | | We do it because at 29 we were rejected by the woman with the same number who instead married a man who was 47. We have taken our cue as to what's appropriate from women. | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 10:55:52 PM | Interestingly enough, and still on topic, I've found some research that does state that older men pairing with younger women in order to have children is not necessarily a wise move and not what nature intended either. There is a definite connection between older sperm and birth defects, so for those several men on this thread that mentioned that they were dating significantly younger women in order to have a last chance at birthing children with them, you might want to pay attention to the following, (and I include several other links as well that are claiming much the same thing):
Study: Human Sperm Deteriorate With Age
Tuesday , June 06, 2006
By Ker Than
Fox News ADVERTISEMENT
Men are more likely to father dwarves as they grow older due to an age-related genetic mutation in their sperm, a new study finds.
The finding, detailed in this week's online edition of the journal for the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, supports the idea that men who delay fatherhood too long put their children at higher risk of inheriting certain genetic diseases.
["Our research suggests that men, too, have a biological time clock — only it is different," said University of California, Berkeley, School of Public Health researcher Brenda Eskenazi, who led the study with Andrew Wyrobek of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, according to The Associated Press. "Men seem to have a gradual rather than an abrupt change in fertility and in the potential ability to produce viable, healthy offspring."]
The researchers analyzed gene mutations and other types of DNA damage in sperm samples collected from 97 healthy men between the ages of 22 and 80 who were living in California.
The bad news
They found that the likelihood of acquiring a genetic mutation that causes achondroplasia, a type of dwarfism, increases by about 2 percent per year, beginning in a male's mid-20s.
They also found that the DNA strands in sperm are more likely to "fragment," or acquire random breaks, as men get older.
Other studies have shown that DNA fragmentation can reduce a sperm's chances of fertilizing an egg.
Despite being genetically damaged, the corrupted sperm appeared as frisky as their genetically healthy counterparts, moving about as quickly as normal.
This suggests that conventional tests of sperm quality, which measure movement, are not reliable predictors of genetic damage, the researchers say.
Some good news
One silver lining: The risks of producing sperm with too many or too few chromosomes does not appear to increase with age in men.
Called "aneuploidy," this disorder is common in the eggs of women over age 35 and can lead to diseases such as Down syndrome, which is known to occur more frequently in babies born to older parents.
Chromosomes are discreet packets of genes; humans normally have 23 pairs of chromosomes, but individuals with Down syndrome have three sets of chromosome 21.
The researchers also analyzed the likelihood of acquiring a genetic mutation for Apert's syndrome, a rare disease that leads to webbed fingers and skull deformities, but found no correlation between age and this mutation in the sperm of men.
However, an earlier study of men living in Baltimore did find a correlation. The men in that study contained more African-Americans and Asian-Pacific Islanders than the current study, whose members were predominately white.
And some hope
The disparity between the two groups suggests that the sperm of different men could be affected by the aging process differently, said Wyrobek, who was involved in both studies.
The reason for this is still unclear.
"It may have to do with socioeconomics, diet or even ethnicity," Wyrobek told LiveScience.
The finding raises the interesting possibility that there might be things that men can do to help ensure the genetic health of their sperm.
"Some groups show an age effect and others don't, so presumably there's something they're doing right, but we don't know what that is," Wyrobek said.
Copyright © 2006 Imaginova Corp. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,198309,00.html
Other links:
Older Sperm May Cause Birth Defects? » Older Sperm May Cause Birth Defects?
http://www.maleenhancementmagazine.com/2006/07/31/older-sperm-may-cause-birth-defects/
Old Sperm Pack Genetic Mutations | LiveScience
http://www.livescience.com/health/060605_corrupt_sperm.html
Aging Father's Sperm Can Cause Birth Defects - from Ronnie Falcão's Midwife Ar
http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/agedsprm.html
SCSA - Beyond the Semen Analysis
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Posted: 12/28/2007 9:49:30 AM | Re Msg: 289 by chelsea_hou:
I've actually never seen it. Well I did have a friend who was 23 and dated a 38 year old, but she dumped him before he turned 40. Does that count? You had me until you said the younger women usually love sex, if that were the case they would be into the young men. Geez even the older women know that Sex is bound to be better with a man with a more youthful body, and young men have a more youthful body. Besides, young men are more likely to take instruction from an older woman. So an older woman is bound to have a better time with a younger man.
Of course, sex is mostly about knowing how to bring a woman to orgasm, and from what I've seen & heard, it's mostly only older women who know how to get a man to this, unless he's figured out for himself over the 20 years from 18 to 38. So, for a young woman, I think the best thing she could do is pick an older man who knows what he's doing. Your young woman was just unlucky. But then, people often make generalisations based on only one or two experiences. It's handy that a woman of your age and maturity doesn't do that, because she's smarter than a 23-year-old.
Of course, if young women & older women think that older men are bad in bed, then no-one will want to date them. So young women and older women will compete for the same man. Since 50-year-old women and beyond are just as attractive as an immature 20-year-old, that would mean that women in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, and beyond, would only want a young man in his 20s, so there would be at least 4 women competing for every man. If I was a 50-year-old woman, the last thing I would want would be to compete with at least 3 other women, for my man. He'd be very likely to cheat on me.
If I was a 50-year-old woman, I would WANT a man of my age to go for a younger woman, because if older men are not dating anyone, then there would be so many women competing for my partner, that I could never expect him to be faithful, and as a woman, I would want my partner to be faithful. If older men are dating women of my own age, then I would be dating a 50-year-old man, who isn't anywhere near as good in bed as a 25-year-old man for a 50-year-old woman. So it would only be to my advantage to encourage younger women to only date older men, so that the young men would want to date me, and not just use me to learn how to please a younger woman.
Re Msg: 291 by southernlass:
Interestingly enough, and still on topic, I've found some research that does state that older men pairing with younger women in order to have children is not necessarily a wise move and not what nature intended either. There is a definite connection between older sperm and birth defects, so for those several men on this thread that mentioned that they were dating significantly younger women in order to have a last chance at birthing children with them, you might want to pay attention to the following, (and I include several other links as well that are claiming much the same thing): I noticed that all of these reports only focussed on sperm, and nature provides a marathon that eliminates unhealthy sperm. So I thought I'd look up what the actual statistics on birth defects are:
Nebraska Vital Statistics Report 2004 ----------------- TABLE 32: Birth Defects by Age of Father
Age of Father -------- Total Births* ---------- No. of Cases with Defects --------- Percent of Total Births*
19 and Under ------------------ 608 ---------------------------------------- 19 ---------------------------------- 3.1
20 - 24 ------------------------ 3,689 -------------------------------------- 118 ---------------------------------- 3.2
25 - 29 ------------------------ 6,725 -------------------------------------- 199 ---------------------------------- 3.0
30 - 34 ------------------------ 6,564 -------------------------------------- 175 ---------------------------------- 2.7
35 - 39 ------------------------ 3,481 --------------------------------------- 84 ---------------------------------- 2.4
40+ ---------------------------- 1,789 --------------------------------------- 54 ---------------------------------- 3.0
Unknown --------------------- 3,633 -------------------------------------- 104 ---------------------------------- 2.9
* Total number of live births and fetal deaths http://www.hhs.state.ne.us/ced/VitalStatsReport/tbl32.pdf
It seems that indeed more sperm are better quality in younger men, than older men. But it seems that Nature balanced that out, and that:
The optimal age for being a father, according to the state statistics of Nebraska, would be 35-39, followed closely by 30-34, followed by men aged 40+ and 25-29, followed by men aged 19 and under, with men aged 20-24 being the most likely to fathers children with birth defects. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2007 10:52:21 AM | I will share my plenty of fish experience with you. I really don't want to share this publicly but I am really adamant about your generalizations.
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Answer to first part:
Because they really want to screw you.
Answer to the second part:
Because they prefer to screw 20 somethings.
And they are hoping that you are too young and dumb to know the answers to the above questions. Men that age that prefer to do young always prefer that they are also dumb.
I meet a girl here on Plenty of Fish when I was 32. She contacted me, she was 19. Okay I thought it was weird and I told her so, but she said guys her age are all go no where punks. Alright after a couple of weeks chatting we meet. Okay she was hot, really hot. In the following week or two she described her life up to then. She had been abused, raped, suicidal...etc...I feel horribly bad for her and my heart went out to her. So I THOUGHT I could make a difference and show her a good life and a positive experience. I month later she tried to kill herself.
After a few months she wanted a sign of commitment from me, so I got her a ring. I wasn't looking just to screw her. A year later we got our own place. Since she had dropped out of high school at grade 9 I wanted her to go to school so she could be more independent and have more opportunities, start to feel better about herself. I did love her and want her to be the best she could, I knew she could, be.
What I noticed over the next year was she wanted to do very little for herself and was very very needy. I was working hard and doing everything. No matter what I did I couldn't keep her happy. When I started to withdraw for her neediness, she started to try to seduced other older men into talking care of her. Then she became physically abusive, used emotional blackmail, like suicide threats...etc.....I asked her to leave thinking she might see the light....but eventually it ended, after all the things I tried to help and show this girl she moved into a 47-50 guy home was engaged and married within two months of breaking up he's obese and gross.....but he's got money and doesn't think twice about parting from it to get a piece of her.
My point is I gave up 3.5 years of my life trying to love and help someone who was 13.5 years my junior. I didn't just want to screw her. I wanted her. So sometimes the guy is the one that gets burned.
Now obviously she's (verified) mentally ill. But still sometimes younger girls will screw you if you are willing to take care of them.
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Posted: 12/28/2007 10:52:34 AM | Although personally I prefer mostly women my age and older, I still discuss this issue as a matter of principle.
From post 291:
"...Interestingly enough, and still on topic, I've found some research that does state that older men pairing with younger women in order to have children is not necessarily a wise move and not what nature intended either...."
Well, even if that holds, even then, who said anything about having children? Even if that holds, then younger women can use older men as experienced and wise lovers and men their age as husbands and fathers to their children. Makes sense!! lol lol lol
But, on top of that:
From the Nebraska tables, it seems that other than the 34-39 age, 2.4, the difference between all other age groups is rather small, ranging from 2.7 to 3.1%, ie 0.4%.
As per what the Nature intended:
Did it intend for cars?
Women being equal to men?
People to undergo operations?
People to fly in planes?
Online dating?
Condoms?
etc etc etc
So what Nature intended is not only debatable, but much more importantly, IRRELEVANT, it is what humanism, democracy, bill of rights, human rights, equality policy etc that MATTER in our secular Societies. Nice try though! | |
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Posted: 12/28/2007 1:55:12 PM | | I would think down the road being older would become a BIG problem. I wouldn't do this to myself, I believe it is a matter of lacking in self confidence. Big Red Flag! | |
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Posted: 12/28/2007 2:00:44 PM | | well it does allow you to select the age group your looking for so set it to the age you want and that may help you, or put a disclaimer on your page saying nobody over a certain age write or you wont respond because your not interested. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2007 2:27:23 PM | If I was a 50-year-old woman, I would WANT a man of my age to go for a younger woman, because if older men are not dating anyone, then there would be so many women competing for my partner, that I could never expect him to be faithful, and as a woman, I would want my partner to be faithful.
Excuse me? Faithfulness is about honor, intergrity and love, not the number of potential partners/competition.
If older men are dating women of my own age, then I would be dating a 50-year-old man, who isn't anywhere near as good in bed as a 25-year-old man for a 50-year-old woman. [quo
I'm sorry, maybe I should just forget dating, relationships and sex...the idea of having sex with a man young enough to be my son makes my skin crawl.
So it would only be to my advantage to encourage younger women to only date older men, so that the young men would want to date me, and not just use me to learn how to please a younger woman.
Again, I personally refuse to date, or encourage anyone else to, date someone young enough to be their child. I will not JUDGE those whose brains are so effed up that they find this an acceptable dating strategy. They are damaged and have my sympathy.
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| Are you old enough to be my dad?
Posted: 12/28/2007 2:28:33 PM | I don't mind ranting and raving at this point, because I have come to a conclusion. All dating sites are completely useless. Here is a simple fact, men take women for face value, women cannot do that. Men have to pass a question answering test, hop a bunch of hurdles and entertain before a woman will consider him. Computer dating websites equals shallow. This is not love we are looking for here, it is what we think the person we should love should look like, what age they should be, how much money they make etc. I could fall in love with a woman ten years younger than me, my age or fifteen years older, tell me, would any of those loves be in vain because of age?
The people on this site are pathetic in my area especially the women. The same ones have been here for the last however many years. Meet someone in real life. Age should be one of the last things to worry about. Someone who really loves you is number one, or do you disagree? Someone who is not abusive, or drug and alcohol addictions. Someone who is completely free of any other relationship. I really do believe that a woman does not want to date a man who is older because he will be smarter and more experienced than her. Some of the age ranges these women give are a joke. 25 year old looking for 20 to 27. 39 looking for 25 to 41. It is the women who are looking for the younger so called dumber man. An older person values love more than a younger person does, and realizes that it is very rare. Lades, God forbid the man of your dreams is one year older than your age range and he can't contact you. 7 years older is way too much oldr than you, like your father right? I guess so if your mother had you when you were 11. I can care less what people think of this, you know it is the truth. I'm off this site anyway, just try to take someone for face value like you would if you met someone in real life. Love doesn't always come in the package you expect it to be in, and if you stop asking so much picaune questions, you wouldn't get lies because we are just trying to tell you what you want to hear, and hint if we aren't asking you questions that means we really like you, wouldn't it be great if women thought that way too? I look like im in my 20s and it makes me sick when i see a women's opinion of me change because i tell her im 35. | |
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| Are you old enough to be my dad?
Posted: 12/28/2007 3:29:28 PM | | Heard this the other night from a woman I was meeting for the first time. Any woman who uses that line is not interested in seeing men as individuals. I thought she was a rather nice person, actually, but trotting out that phrase just killed any chance between us. It was clear she did not have an interest in me. | |
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| Are you old enough to be my dad?
Posted: 12/28/2007 4:43:48 PM | | "Your young woman was just unlucky." No, ah actually she's married to a young guy and is living happily ever after. Sorry I'd like help you out, especially since you came up this well thought out post. Just don't bring sex into the old man any age women kinda thing. Sex is not that complicated, young men kinda have it down...lol And NO one has to teach them. | |
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