I sacrificed so much,personally and professionally and to me it wasn't worth it.Todays liberal generation has never known anything other then peace so the concept of defending our freedom far away from home just doesn't register in thier heads.

It was supposed to be ironic, and over whelmed is one word, genius.

I just wonder how the people who bad mouth our troops would have reacted during World War II .

We were fighting evil and hatred in the world in the form of Naziism then , just as we are fighting evil and hatred in the form of Islamic terrorists now.

It just amazes me that the people who don't understand this someho think that they would be exempt from this hatred.

I don't recall al Qaeda checking the political affiliations of any of the 3000 they killed on 9/11. They want to kill all us "infidels"- whether you support the war or the troops.

.......and any parent mom or dad that agree to send their children to possible death; then i say unequivocally that the love for their children is not that great ........

The irony of that is only over whelmed by how ridiculous that statement is, pot & kettle

There was no irony there, you were just attacking as per usual.

Make up your mind. was it ironic or wasn't it? It seems like your knowledge on irony is on par with your knowledge of the word overwhelmed, or over whelmed as you put it.

I like having people like you around though.

You do for the anti-war movement what abortion clinic bombers do for the pro-life movement.

Most Americans think the Vietnam conflict was about communism. They don't look beyond the BS that flows from the White House.

I have, that you can't understand it appears to be the issue.

As for the war in Iraq, actually Lemue 8 out of 10 people our troops are fighting over there are from another country, thats why they are called Insurgents,

Foreign fighters account for 4% to 10% of the estimated 20,000 or more insurgents in Iraq, according to a U.S. State Department report.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-07-04-insurgents-weapons_x.htm

The US and Iraqi governments have vastly overstated the number of foreign fighters in Iraq, and most of them don't come from Saudi Arabia, according to a new report from the Washington-based Center for Strategic International Studies (CSIS). According to a piece in The Guardian, this means the US and Iraq " feed the myth" that foreign fighters are the backbone of the insurgency. While the foreign fighters may stoke the insurgency flames, they make up only about 4 to 10 percent of the estimated 30,000 insurgents.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0923/dailyUpdate.html

"Both Iraqis and coalition people often exaggerate the role of foreign infiltrators and downplay the role of Iraqi resentment in the insurgency," said Anthony H. Cordesman, a former Pentagon official now at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, who is writing a book about the Iraqi insurgency.

"It makes the government's counterinsurgency efforts seem more legitimate, and it links what's going on in Iraq to the war on terrorism," he continued.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/
article/2005/11/16/AR2005111602519.html

Tuesday, Bush attempted to take aim at those critics, mentioning al Qaeda 93 times in the 29-minute speech in an attempt to convince Americans that U.S. troops must stay in Iraq. The strategy is a simple one -- emphasize al Qaeda's role in the violence rather than the fighting between warring Iraqi groups.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/24/bush.terror/index.html

Maybe if Canada was attacked, then would you realize that we are in a fight for our very existence with the Islamic terrorists.

So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself -- nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.

- FDR's first inaugural address

There ya go MG again posting articles from left leaning news organizations

The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) seeks to advance global security and prosperity in an era of economic and political transformation by providing strategic insights and practical policy solutions to decisionmakers. CSIS serves as a strategic planning partner for the government by conducting research and analysis and developing policy initiatives that look into the future and anticipate change.

Founded in 1962 by David M. Abshire and Admiral Arleigh Burke, CSIS is a bipartisan, nonprofit organization headquartered in Washington, D.C. with more than 220 full-time staff and a large network of affiliated experts. Former U.S. senator Sam Nunn became chairman of the CSIS Board of Trustees in 1999, and John J. Hamre has led CSIS as its president and chief executive officer since April 2000.

http://www.csis.org/about/

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The Christian Science Monitor is an international daily newspaper published Monday through Friday. Founded in 1908 by Mary Baker Eddy, it's now also a multimedia website, an e-mail edition, a personal digital assistant (PDA) edition, and a downloadable PDF of the print version. Here's an FAQ about the Monitor:

Is the paper a religious periodical?

No, it's a real newspaper published by a church — The First Church of Christ, Scientist in Boston, Mass., USA. Everything in the Monitor is international and US news and features, except for one religious article that has appeared each day in The Home Forum section since 1908, at the request of the paper's founder, Mary Baker Eddy.

In an age of corporate conglomerates dominating news media, the Monitor combination of church ownership, a public-service mission, and commitment to covering the world (not to mention the fact that it was founded by a woman shortly after the turn of the century, when US women didn't yet have the vote!) gives the paper a uniquely independent voice in journalism.

How do you compare to other newspapers covering international news?

Unlike most US dailies, the Monitor does not rely primarily on wire services, like AP and Reuters, for its international coverage. We have writers based in 11 countries, including Russia, China, France, the UK, Kenya, Mexico, Israel and India, as well as throughout the US.

Why does the Christian Science church publish a newspaper?

One answer might be found in a story the Monitor's Washington bureau chief, David Cook, told in a talk he gave several years ago:

“Consider this case. It is 1907. An elderly New England woman finds herself being targeted by Joseph Pulitzer's New York World. She is 86 years old and holds some unconventional religious beliefs that she expounds in a book. The book becomes a bestseller, making her wealthy and a well-known public figure.

The New York World decides she is incapable of managing her own affairs and persuades some of her friends and her two sons to sue for control of her estate.

Although Boston and New Hampshire newspapers and major wire services interview this person and find her competent, the New York World is unrelenting. The lady in question finally is taken to court where the case against her is dropped.

And the next year this woman, Mary Baker Eddy, founds The Christian Science Monitor.

http://www.csmonitor.com/aboutus/about_the_monitor.html

"The foreign fighters' attacks tend to be more spectacular, but local nationals, the Saddamists, the Iraqi rejectionists, are much more problematic," said Maj. Gen. Joseph J. Taluto, commander of the Army's 42nd Infantry Division. His unit, which lost 59 soldiers during its tour here, was based in the northern city of Tikrit, Hussein's home town, before transferring the region to the 101st Airborne Division this month.

Al Qaeda in Iraq maintains a presence in the region, he said, "but they're not having much of an impact. Their message is not resonating."

In Washington, a senior State Department official called foreign fighters "an important element to the insurgency," but added that "it would be a mistake to imagine that this isn't a largely Iraqi-based operation with critical support from foreign elements."

Many of the suicide bombers appear to have been novices in warfare, attracted by the relative ease of access to Iraq and the lure of quick martyrdom. "This is not al Qaeda's first team," said [Col. Thomas X.] Hammes of the National Defense University. "These are the scrubs who could never get us in the States."

Maj. Angela Hildebrant, a military spokeswoman, said the U.S. military estimates the number of foreign fighters by counting the number of foreigners killed in suicide attacks or captured by coalition forces in Iraq.

Only 3.5% of the 13,885 detainees held by U.S. forces in Iraq are foreigners...

"The enemy in Tall Afar consists mostly of local fighters, with a small but dangerous network of Takfirist foreign leaders, financiers and propagandists," said Lt. Col. Paul Yingling of the 3rd Armored Cavalry, referring to adherents of another radical branch of Islam.

ESTIMATED NUMBER OF FOREIGN FIGHTERS IN THE INSURGENCY

January 2004 300-500
July “Low hundreds”
September “Fewer than 1,000”
November “Fewer than 1,000”
January 2005 “Fewer than 1,000”
February “Fewer than 1,000”
May 1,000
June 750-1,000
July 750-1,000
August 750-1,000
September 700 – 2,000
October 700 – 2,000
November 700 – 2,000
December 700 – 2,000
January 2006 700 – 2,000
February 700 – 2,000
March 700 – 2,000
April 800 – 2,000
May 800 – 2,000
June 800 – 2,000
July 800 – 2,000
August 800 – 2,000
September 800 – 2,000
October 800 – 2,000
November 800 – 2,000

NOTE ON ESTIMATED NUMBER OF FOREIGN FIGHTERS TABLE: “[Foreign fighters] are very few in number, although as far as
we can tell, they constitute about 100 percent of the suicide bombers.” DoD News Briefing with Col. Sean MacFarland, Commander of 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1
st Armored Division, Stationed in Ramadi, July 14, 2006.

- Source Brookings Institution
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Declassified Key Judgments of the National
Intelligence Estimate —Trends in Global Terrorism:
Implications for the United States“ dated April 2006

We assess that the Iraq jihad is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and
operatives; perceived jihadist success there would inspire more fighters to continue the
struggle elsewhere.

• The Iraq conflict has become the —cause celebre“ for jihadists, breeding a deep
resentment of US involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for
the global jihadist movement. Should jihadists leaving Iraq perceive themselves,
and be perceived, to have failed, we judge fewer fighters will be inspired to carry
on the fight.