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 capegardengirl
Joined: 4/29/2006
Msg: 176
Do you really support our troops?Page 8 of 11    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11)
"you shoot yourself in the foot"


..True...Alot of American men cant handle intelligent, educated woman with opinions....They carry alot of personal problems and baggage and project alot of hostility, fear towards women.....It makes certain ones here feel more secure if the woman is passive, sick and defers to his needs and opinions...Your pictures and profile are lovely and inviting.....Dont let the immature, ones here get you down...A true gentleman will consider himselef lucky to have found you
 enCielo
Joined: 6/10/2007
Msg: 177
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/29/2007 7:29:22 PM

re-msg 171,I'm ugly? LOL your one to talk bl8ant.You look like a high mileage crack whore thats given more rides then greyhound.I'm honest and say what I really think there was a time when women appreciated that now they like the ass kissing liars and thats what they get.I know I can be a bit harsh in how I talk,I'm ex-army and hard as nails last of the real men so when your not politically correct it can get other peoples feces in a knot.But people need to focus on what I say rather then how I'm saying it.




Jim Dandy, we may be in agreement over some of the opinions expressed in this thread, but I don't recall when Army Values meant insulting women with derogatory names. Then I realized you were Canadian, "that Army". And no, you're not the last of the real men :)
 dunrich
Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 178
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/29/2007 7:58:59 PM
{ QUOTE "After the attacks on September 11, 2001, the Canadian Forces immediately deployed its elite Special Operations unit Joint Task Force Two. It was used in a vital role in calling airstrikes and directly confronting al-Qaeda and Taliban positions. Once the regular forces were on the ground in January-February 2002 the Canadians were used supporting the war effort until Operation Anaconda began. During the operation, a Canadian sniper team broke, and re-broke, the kill record for a long distance sniper kill set in the Vietnam War by an American Marine. Operation Anaconda was also the first time since the Korean War that Canadian soldiers relieved American soldiers in a combat operation.


[edit] 2002-2005
In March 2002 , 3 PPCLI snipers fought along side US Army units during Operation Anaconda. Canadian forces also undertook Operation Harpoon in the Shah-i-Kot Valley. Other forces in the country provided garrison and security troops.

In 2003, the Canadian Forces moved to the northern city of Kabul where it became the commanding nation of the newly formed ISAF. In the spring of 2005 it was announced that the Canadian Forces would move back to the volatile Kandahar province as the US forces handed command to the Canadians in the region.


[edit] 2003-2005 Operation Athena
In August 2003, Operation Athena began outside Kabul as part of ISAF, with a 1,900-strong Canadian task force providing assistance to civilian infrastructure such as well-digging and repair of local buildings.

On 13 February 2005, Defence Minister Bill Graham announced Canada was doubling the number of troops in Afghanistan by the coming summer, from 600 troops in Kabul to 1200.[3]

Operation Athena ended following the national elections in December 2005 and the fulfilment of the stated aim of "rebuilding the democratic process" in Afghanistan.[4]


[edit] 2006 Renewed commitments - Operation Archer
Operation Archer followed Athena beginning in February 2006. By the spring of 2006, Canada had a major role in southern Afghanistan, with Task Force Afghanistan being a Battle Group of 2,300 soldiers based at Kandahar. Canada also commanded the Multi-National Brigade for Command South, a main military force in the region. In May 2006, the Canadian government extended Canadian military commitments to Afghanistan by two years, replacing earlier plans to withdraw soldiers in 2006.

Additionally, Foreign Affairs Canada has stated that the commitment is more than just military, employing a "a whole of government approach" in which a Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT), utilizing personnel from the military, Foreign Affairs, the Canadian International Development Agency and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, provides a dual role of security as well as reconstruction of the country and political structure.[4]

On 28 February 2006, command of the forces in southern Afghanistan transferred from U.S. Lieutenant General Karl Eikenberry to Canadian Brigadier-General David Fraser in a ceremony at Kandahar Airfield.


[edit] 2006-Present
When the Canadian Forces returned to Kandahar after being deployed to Kabul in 2003, the Taliban began a major offensive and the Canadians were caught in the middle. After a spring in which a record number of attacks against Canadian soldiers had been set, which included six deaths to the CF, the Taliban in Kandahar and Helmand provinces were massing.

Operation Mountain Thrust was launched in the beginning of the summer in 2006. Canadians of the 2 PPCLI Battle Group were one of the leading combatants and the first fighting when the Battle of Panjwaii took place. Complex mud-walled compounds made the rural Panjwaii district take on an almost urban style of fighting in some places. Daily firefights, artillery bombardments, and allied airstrikes turned the tides of the battle in favour of the Canadians. After Operation Mountain Thrust came to an end, Taliban fighters flooded back into the Panjwaii district in numbers that had not been seen yet in a single area in the "post Anaconda" war.

The Canadian Forces came under NATO command at the end of July, and the 1 RCR Battle Group replaced the PPCLI. Canadians launched Operation Medusa in September in an attempt to clear the areas of Taliban fighters from Panjwaii once and for all. The fighting of Operation Medusa led the way to the second, and most fierce Battle of Panjwaii in which daily gun-battles, ambushes, and mortar/rocket attacks were targeting the Canadian troops. The Taliban had massed with an estimated 1,500 to 2,000 fighters. The Taliban were reluctant to give up the area, and after being surrounded by the Canadian Forces, they dug in and fought a more conventional style battle. After weeks of fighting, the Taliban had been cleared from the Panjwaii area and Canadian reconstruction efforts in the area began.

On 15 September 2006, the Canadian government committed a squadron of Leopard tanks from Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians), and an additional 200 to 500 troops to Afghanistan. Canada is the only nation so far to deploy armour to Afghanistan. [5]

On 1 November 2006, Dutch Major-General Ton van Loon succeeded Brigadier-General David Fraser as head of NATO Regional Command South in Afghanistan, a post which he will retain for a six month period. [2]

On 15 December 2006, the Canadians launched Operation Falcon Summit into Zhari district, to the North of Panjwaii. The operation was the Canadian involvement in the NATO-led Operation Mountain Fury. During Op Falcon Summit, the Canadians gained control of several key villages and towns that were former Taliban havens, such as Howz-E Madad. During the first week of the operation, massive Canadian artillery and tank barrages were carried out in a successful attempt to clear pockets of Taliban resistance. The operation concluded with plans to build a new road linking Panjwaii with Kandahar's Highway 1 that runs E-W through Zhari.

In February 2007, the 2 RCR Battle Group took over to carry on with combat operations in several districts in Kandahar Province.

On 15 July 2007, units from Camp Valcartier near Quebec city were sent to Afghanistan and now form part of the 2,800 troops stationed. "quote ends, wikepedia} {QUOTE "Then I realized you were Canadian, "that Army". And no, you're not the last of the real men :) QUOTE ENDS}

Yea that Canadian army, and what does that mean Mr Hottness? Sheesh, you think woman are impresssed with that? Keep looking in the mirror by, you will impress someone sooner or later.
 enCielo
Joined: 6/10/2007
Msg: 179
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/29/2007 8:17:48 PM
Thanks, but I served in OEF with the Canadian Army, no need to splash the thead.

As for your insult, I don't aim to impress anyone ;)

Cheers

Did YOU serve? Maybe you're just not familiar with Inter-service rivalry?
 bl8ant
Joined: 11/12/2007
Msg: 180
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/29/2007 10:45:23 PM
hotttness... thanks for your chivalry.
my father was an officer in Canadian Forces in WWII...


these guys don't resemble that grace and dignity or courage at all.


as for the thread...it's no wonder i don't support the troops look at how they treat people!!
when they're out! or sitting too long behind a desk. disgusting.

dunrich.... hmmm nope not gonna touch that one. lol
 bl8ant
Joined: 11/12/2007
Msg: 181
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/29/2007 10:52:58 PM
by the way dunrich...he impressed me


he has more class in his little fingernail than you have all rolled up with these HUUU HAAWWW, testosterone steroided out freaks spouting insult wherever they post.
 dunrich
Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 182
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/30/2007 2:46:25 AM
Hotness , I apologise . Reading a lot of the stuff here I am too 'touchy" at times.

Small world, I have a cousin with OEM . Also a nehew with the Lord Strathconas over there and one who has been there with the Princess Pats .

No I have not served in Afghanistan, cant pass the hand strength test from an injury so couldnt re enlist. Have read of a couple of chaps my age who have passed and gone through basic , that is impressive.
 Pomagranit
Joined: 11/19/2007
Msg: 183
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/30/2007 3:01:27 AM
You're a good man Dunrich, now THATS what I call support.
 Jim Dandy2007
Joined: 8/6/2007
Msg: 184
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/30/2007 5:09:30 AM
I never set the tone bl8ant you did and why should I take that from you? maby your used to these **** whipped guys who take your insults and they'll hide in the corner and say nothing but I don't have too.If you had said nothing to me I would have said nothing back.I admit I am hardcore,go hard or go home,100% all the time I don't see any reason to apologize for it.I don't have any problem with other women that are respectful to me,like I said YOU set the tone.You act like a lady I'll treat you like one.
 Jim Dandy2007
Joined: 8/6/2007
Msg: 185
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/30/2007 5:29:12 AM
Hey Dunrich don't bother explaining the amazing deeds the Canadian army has done these people will never get it.The longest sniper shot in military history was done by a man from my old regiment in my hometown.The Canadian army has always punched above its weight which is why anyone thats every worked with us respects us.But some people are as dense as lead,especially some Americans.Many of our men we're killed by incompetence (friendly fire) and most Americans don't even know about it.JTF was formed in 1993 and yet it has the respect of any special forces in the world that says alot about the selection,training,leadership but most of all its men.And when the army isn't killing or capturing the enemy they are rescuing civilian climbers,sailors,people lost in the woods etc they were at the Quebec ice storms,the Manitoba floods,BC fires,shoveled snow in Toronto,built schools and hospitals in Afghanistan etc etc etc yet you seldom hear about that and Canadians don't care so I finally said screw the civvies and left.Remember the chaos of the LA riots? thats what a city would be like with no police and thats just one city imagine an entire country with no protection and thats where we'd be with no military.Today Russia,Greenland and even the US are claiming northern Canada belongs to them,next week it could be some other country claiming the rest.
 Lastknight1963
Joined: 2/21/2005
Msg: 186
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/30/2007 5:31:14 AM
I was out there for the first stint at Saddam's Tantrums, and what i felt more important was that we were doing it for the betterment of all, I still think we did, it matters not about why our brave lads are there, it matters most that they are doing their duty, and doing it with fairness and courage, support them, they are our sons daughters husbands and lovers, lets pray for them and welcome them home with open arms when they safely return, and remember some didn't
 Pomagranit
Joined: 11/19/2007
Msg: 187
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/30/2007 5:51:31 AM

I don't have any problem with other women that are respectful to me


 enCielo
Joined: 6/10/2007
Msg: 188
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 11/30/2007 6:08:52 AM
dunrich, allright, i should apologize for my rip on the Canadian Armed Forces, I assure you if he was in American uniform i would have done the same. I think it is unbecoming of the charachter of a professional serviceman to use names like "Washed up crach whore" in the face of woman, even if it is on the internet, and even if I stringently oppose the opinions she espouses. Being "hard" doesn't mean getting in everyone's face trying to intimdate them. To me it means being conducting ourselves with courtesty and respect, let others see who we are and the class that we bring, and when it comes time to use violence as a last resort ( i.e. in war), we unleash it forcefully and the discpline we have been trained with.

This is drilled in our heads from Basic Training and on, and I know the professional Canadian soldiers I served with would say the same.

Our conduct overthere was exemplorary, and the local populace by and large saw that and respected what we did. I even have many friends in the local populace that I can keep in touch with. Often times isolated incidents where people lost their cool ended up reveresing all the gains we made.

In the U.S. we have the Army Values, I'm sure Canada has something similar, it's too easy to forget values that are supposed to guide our actions. Especially in a "Rip on the troops" thread.
 get_mad_baby
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 189
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Posted: 11/30/2007 11:40:41 AM

it matters not about why our brave lads are there


That's absurd. It matters the most why they're there. Our troops didn't just appear, they and the public were lied to, to be able to invade and occupy a nation. To say that it doesn't matter why they're there is appalling to all that have died, and not just the troops, but the innocent civilians. War is politics by force. And this war in Iraq is an unjustified war. The heroic soldiers should refuse to have any part in this. Other than that, they are being used as a tool in these war crimes. The soldiers who don't fight, who are smart enough and have enough courage to see that they're being thrown away as cannon fodder, if not, then they're accomplices to a crime, and I can't support that.
 Lastknight1963
Joined: 2/21/2005
Msg: 190
Do you really support our troops?
Posted: 12/2/2007 8:34:38 AM
Get with the programme, it's about duty, they are not responsible for why they are there, they obey orders, absurd, you need to lay off the caffiene chum, and get some respect
 Lastknight1963
Joined: 2/21/2005
Msg: 191
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Posted: 12/2/2007 8:38:31 AM
And incidentally, i apologise for my last comment i forgot you're American, and you have a different approach to patriotism than us, it's why we ruled two thirds of the world, and outr Army is the toughest and the bravest in the world
 bewildered2011
Joined: 12/20/2005
Msg: 192
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Posted: 12/2/2007 8:50:59 AM
Its about time someone sttod up for our brave lads out there-well said LastKnight. It's interesting that out major casualties are from so called 'friendly fire' from guess who? The Yanks
 rainbows-end
Joined: 11/27/2007
Msg: 193
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Posted: 12/2/2007 8:54:03 AM
Here here, Lastknight well said!!!!
 designingwoman
Joined: 9/4/2005
Msg: 194
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Posted: 12/2/2007 7:35:09 PM
There are many ways to support military personnel and their families without regard to one's personal opinion of the war in Iraq.

The Overseas Coupon Program, ocp.net has an excellent program in which people clip coupons to help military families stationed overseas save money at the base exchange.

Hospitalized veterans can always use a bit of cheer, and a nice way to help them is to donate used books and magazines (magazines must be less than a year old).

There are various electronic format programs to send emails to the troops as well to help lift their spirits.

If you know someone who is serving overseas, you can send them care packages.

God Bless our Troops!!
 Wolfdaddy4
Joined: 11/18/2007
Msg: 195
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Posted: 12/2/2007 7:52:44 PM
I support the troops as much as anyone else supports them. But I dont think we should be in Iraq anymore. I just dont support Presidents Bushes idea's of Invading a country. A country who has never attacked the U.S. of A
 RexKing
Joined: 10/25/2007
Msg: 196
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Posted: 12/20/2007 11:26:33 AM
Of course. The United States military is the ultimate guarantor of world peace, and the last line of defense against third world dictators and tyrants that leftists and liberals so love. Peace was never won by journalists and pen pushers and negotiators and treaty signers. Peace was won when American soldiers went off into far away lands and kicked a$$.
 iamjumbo
Joined: 11/6/2007
Msg: 197
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Posted: 12/20/2007 4:39:18 PM
that's true, and we are defending this country in afghanistand. we are NOT defending anything whatsoever in iraq.
back in 1997, the neocons, with wolfowitz, rumsfeld, cheney, and the crew got together to dream up the project for a new american century (pnac) this is the neocons vision of the u.s. ruling the world. the cornerstone of the manifesto was the invasion and control of iraq. long before 9/11, rummy proclaimed this administration's intention of taking over iraq. it became necessary to fabricate intelligence in order to get some allies to go along, and thus came the invasion of iraq.
troops follow orders. the fact that the orders from washington are against the best interest of the american people is not a cause of concern to the current white house. the american people have always been an annoyance to bush, cheney and the crew.
just the facts, ma'am, nothing but the facts
 Montreal_Guy
Joined: 3/8/2004
Msg: 198
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Posted: 12/21/2007 6:03:26 AM

The United States military is the ultimate guarantor of world peace, and the last line of defense against third world dictators and tyrants that leftists and liberals so love.


Or people with a much needed resource.

Again , look at the history of a country like Iran, and American involvement in overthrowing a nationalist and popular leader. This directly created the conditions that bring us to where we are now.

It's also the same story in Central and South America, with much the same pattern.

That isn't the fault of the military, but of the nation's leaders.



Peace was never won by journalists and pen pushers and negotiators and treaty signers. Peace was won when American soldiers went off into far away lands and kicked a$$.


Peace is only achieved when the motives for war are addressed properly. The example of Vietnam and Iraq come to mind, when pondering your last line and that fact.

The conditions of the "peace" of WW1 created WW2, and that's not an isolated case. The breakup and creation of countries (like Iraq itself) in that post WW1 era created ghosts that still haunt us today.
 VeddiVeddiVixxen
Joined: 3/27/2007
Msg: 199
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Posted: 12/21/2007 6:13:50 AM
It is certain that many suupport our troops and their families regardless of their views on the War. However, that being said, saying it and doing something about it are quite different. There are many organizations within one's own community that offer assistance to the troops &/or the families of the military. Google & local Veterans Affairs offices are great places to start. Skip the magnets on your car. You're only supporting the corporations that make them.
 banffboy6
Joined: 10/14/2007
Msg: 200
NRA redneck
Posted: 1/23/2008 6:40:21 PM
When was the last time the US was in danger of being invaded? 1812, when Upper Canada was at war with the US. Since then what? When's the next 'invasion' and by whom? Law of the jungle? Civil war? Keep believing the bullshit your corrupt gov't is feeding you on FOX and CNN networks and pretty soon you'll be too scared to leave your own homes for fear of some foreign 'invader' or local cowboy shooting his load into someone. Red alert, Yellow alert......!!!!
Americans have been fighting wars outside their country in the same cowboy fashion since WWI......fire everything you have at the other side and run back to the base telling everyone how your saving the world. Most of the time they never hit their targets. Ask any WWI, WWII or Korean veteran who fought alongside the yanks.....'when the allies bomb, the germans duck...when the germans bomb, the allies duck...when the yanks bomb, everybody ducks'!! You'd think with all their guns they'd learn to shoot straight.
Still true today. Smart weapons engineered in the US is in direct response to the dumd-asses who shoot them. Hmmmm...prison or the services? US wars are fought with the blood of their own poor...and their weekend National Guard cowboys. Combined with a foriegn policy of hidden adgendas makes travelling abroad a risky adventure.
Homophobic, xenophobic and gun happy.......it's tough to love your paranoid 'big brother' neighbour when he has a M-16 pointed at you.
BTW...I have an FAC, safety and handgun. Many like me are not anti-gun, we're anti-gun in the hands of dumb-asses with a hair-trigger attitude. Big difference.
Sleep well cowboy....keep those butt cheeks pinched.
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