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Posted: 2/19/2008 7:08:06 AM | I have been to ozzfest and half the bands were terrible. only good bands were nile, behemoth, LOG and Daath, none of which sound alike at ALL.
There is a lot new in metal really,wether it be a new mix of genres like grindcore/progressive or something retarded like that. to say that bands sound the same now is completely ridiculous, to say a band like kreator sounds like carpathian forest is hilarity. | |
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Posted: 2/19/2008 8:27:48 PM | | Lots of good bands listed there. I have to agree with the guy who says Autopsy is great, disgusting fun. I have it permanently loaded on the ipod. For me, At The Gates is still the best. | |
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Posted: 2/19/2008 9:10:22 PM | | To HRWILD reply, to say todays bands are mere carbon copies of once was is highly disillusional. I don't think you really ever involved yourself in metal that much. When nu metal came out it really lit a fire under the underground scene ass. Before that you had some really creative bands like Acid Bath, GWAR, and etc. Alot of bands today are pushing boundries unlike bands from the 80's . I find that alot todays metal to be more exciting. Hardcore is more of a 80's time period music scene with bands like Circle Jerks, Dead Kennedys, Agnostic Front, Minor Threat, and Butthole Surfers. I prefer Motorhead over the Sex Pistols any day. I think that there is metal bands that can relate to the old hardcore scene than bands claiming to be hardcore today. You should check out Relapse label they got alot of great bands on their roster. I was never to impressed with Headbangers Ball back in the late 80's and early 90's mainly because they would play hair metal shit over half the time. To see a Morbid Angel, Kreator, and Slayer video was a rarity at the time. Alot of people on here lives and breathe metal because it is part of their lifestyle and who they are. Alot of them are into the underground culture of metal where you will find bands being truely artistic, and creative. | |
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Posted: 2/20/2008 4:49:53 PM | Why would anybody want a golden age with extreme metal? If you're talking about hair metal forget it! Best thing Nirvana, and Alice in Chains ever did was kill that scene.
You claim that there is nothing new in metal, I just don't think you really exposed yourself to metal. There is so many boundaries being push in the underground. Every metal fan on here knows your little statement about nothing new will say, " You're full of crap".  | |
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Posted: 2/21/2008 12:22:15 AM | | Ugh.I can't stand Nirvana.One of the most over rated bands ever. | |
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Posted: 2/21/2008 3:03:55 AM | | I got nothing against Nirvana. I like their music a whole lot more than Bon Jovi, Poison, Scorpions, and etc. The media rape Kurt Cobain's name after his death, and Courtny Love just road his coat tails to fame. I'm just saying bands like Nirvana and Alice in Chains came along at the right time and kill off the hair metal scene. The grundge music brought something refresh and new. Best part was that nobody was wearing spandex in grundge. Because of the hair metal scene I have a phobia with spandex. I don't care how hot a woman is if she's wearing spandex that's enough to turn me off real fast. The poofy hairs everybody was wearing back in those days, I wish I had the money the hair spray companies were makeing off those people. It was hard to take alot of those hair metal bands serious trying to act tough and all in their promo's when they were just trannies. Well that is what alot of hair metal bands look like to me a bunch of trannies. I remember the women went ape shit over them hair bands as if they were partially lesbian or bi, after watching a couple of episodes of Rock of Love 2 they still do. Finding women who were into the real heavy metal back in those days were rare, but they were out there. Nowadays there is alot more women into underground metal which is always good. I would not want to hear a golden age term use with underground metal because it sounds like once was. Underground metal is always changeing, mutating, and growing like it should. | |
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Posted: 2/21/2008 9:28:59 PM | | i prefer it being underground when metal gets to big it turns sour and bad i dont mind haveing to search for good bands and in the computer age its much easier | |
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Posted: 2/22/2008 3:06:04 PM |
I doubt it. Metal may come and visit every few years or so, under old or new names...you know, pop in for a beer or a record or two...but it will never return in all of its glory that it once had.
Rys you have no idea what you are talking about. Metal has never gone anywhere, it has stood the test of time unlike rap and pop bands which come and go. Meal bands have huge festivals in Europe that would make rap concerts look pathetic. North America is just asleep when it comes to metal as they listen to hip hop junk. I saw Unleashed and Amon Amarth at the Finnish Metal Expo 2007 and it was nuts. North American metal crowds are nothing compared to Europe. But even in North America metal is as strong as ever, and if you don't think so then you are sadly mistaken. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2008 12:06:43 AM | I like metal. I couldn't care less about this golden age crap though. As long as my collection keeps growing.... I don't care if it's more Manowar or another in the endless bounds of nameless Suffocation rip offs... except I don't like them so I wouldn't listen to that, but I thought it served its purpose.
Just look at Dragonforce for popular metal stuff though. I'd rather not have all those loser types ranting about Benighted and ruining them for me from overrated trash hype from people that don't really appreciate it. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2008 8:22:57 PM | Ahab - Call of the Wretched Sea....
Such an astounding album. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2008 12:09:09 AM |
Ahab - Call of the Wretched Sea....
Such an astounding album.
AHAB is a good doom band. I like their "The Oath" album. | |
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Posted: 2/27/2008 1:23:06 AM | Opeth is definitely one of my favorites.
Although, I have been listening to a lot of Combichrist, Yob and Meshuggah lately. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 2:40:08 PM | The glory days of certain genres are done for. DM for example. However, on the heals of the great DM explosion, some bands still came out with HUGE albums that are revered as classics to this day. Hypocrisy comes to my mind in terms of bands that survived and thrived in the post-DM explosion era (1994-2000). I feel DM really started to get a foothold once again around the turn of the century.
I see no return to the glory days of DM either. Those bands at the time were just working so many untapped resources and avenues that it was destined to succeed at the time. Basically give thrash a mush needed shot in the arm they revitalized that style but pushed in a new manner.....recycled(sorta) but in a manner that was new and exciting. Nowadays i believe a band like Behemoth is just a critical as any of those early bands. Im a huge mark for Malevolent Creation's-10 commandments, but there are current albums out there that i enjoy and feel are just as important. Vital Remains-dawn of the apocalypse from 2000 is as vital to me as any DM album I own. That album single handedly gave me a huge shot in the arm and really reinvigorated my enthusiasm for the genre at the time.
hope i quote this stuff right.....
I banished metal from my collection the day South of Heaven came out from Slayer.
i found this to be an interesting statement. SOH was an interesting album...a more dark feel to it than anything previously released. SOh is not my favorite Slayer album, but it is the most listened to.
I am a huge fan of Neurosis, and EYEHATEGOD
Back in 93(IIRC) those 2 were on tour with Buzzov*en. In my estimation had i been able to see this tour, I still to this day would yet to see a finer show. Neurosis was absolutely perfect on "enemy of the sun". I simply can not give that damn album enough accolades. | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 6:43:26 PM | Good metal is hard to come by. i think, with a few exceptions, it pretty much died.
The main problem with this genre, it could never really evolved into something that could go beyond of what its fans expected of it. Metal fans are expected to get hammered. and are happy just getting the baddest kick ass riffs, the craziest fastest guitar solos, a bass that cracks the bathroom tiles and ripps off the bath tub from its foundations... *tuftuftuf...*
In other words, metal fans are contempt and happy with just enough of what they really want. noise.noise and more noise. They seldom look for musicality or highly complexed rythm and melody. But there are bands that go beyond metal. but there isn't enough. Tool is one of those bands. They enter a whole new world of musical research where complexed rythm and innovative musical flare sets them appart from the rest of the metal geeks.
I love metal. don't get me wrong. i still get high on the old Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer. I also love Gothic metal like Him an Tristania, who add a welcomed sense of dramatic intensity with superb vocals and orchestra.
but metal can't evolved like it once did back in the 80's. it seems to be stuck in a time frame where it can't get out of. Bands keep looking back at their glory days, but forget to look ahead of them. as a result, i find other genres such as R&B, Soul and Folk to have a lot more debth, research and spirituality in their music than metal (and even rock in general), who have completely devolved and are in solid decline, both musically and popularity. it's only a matter of time...[RIP...] | |
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Posted: 3/2/2008 8:37:09 PM | There's tons of good metal if you know where to look. An incredibly catchy band and probably one of... two metalcore bands that I like at all, is definitely near the top of my list. It sets itself apart from the rest with a fairly unique sound in comparison.
I'm perfectly happy with some bands sticking to 'their' sound too. You have bands like Bolt Thrower that are incredible at what they do. I don't feel they need to 'evolve' at all because they excel at it. Some bands do need to progress, but there are some that really do fit where they are, as they are.
Right now, I have over 300 metal bands that I listen to. All good, incredible things? No, certainly not, but I do give them a go every so often.
I think I'm one of like... two people that even liked Slayer's God Hates Us All. Everyone hates that album, but it's probably my favorite of theirs.
Bands like Megadeth are going downhill, in my opinion, because their changes just don't really suit them. Too many try to change for the sake of change and not to improve themselves. And metal is definitely not all about crunching guitar and throbbing bass with some viciously blasting drums or anything like that. Look at the genre as a whole. Many bands across the spread are great and don't fall into that at all.
There's plenty out there if you know where to look for it. | |
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Posted: 3/5/2008 7:31:00 PM | Do any of you use IRC?
If so, drop by DALNet #metal and pay us a visit for a bit.
If not, but you're interested in what it is, just google for mIRC and download it. | |
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Posted: 3/7/2008 10:53:35 AM | | I haven't been on mIRC in a long time. I usually hang out on the Mindforge server with friends. | |
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Posted: 3/7/2008 11:19:25 AM | Folk/Viking metal is simply destroying these days... countless new acts that put out amazing records.
Turisas
Ensiferum
Enslaved
Amon Amarth
Tyr
Forefather (not folk/viking but more heathen in nature)
Falkenbach
Eluveitie
And much more.
These days, with Black and Death Metal, a lot of the bands are a hit/miss, but there are some quality bands, old and new that are simply stunning. | |
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Posted: 3/11/2008 6:12:53 PM | | I just came across a band that I like called Birds of Prey. I haven't got their new album yet, but I did pick up their previous album called, "Weight Of The Wound". The music store I go to had a sale on metal cd's so I pick up a few. Is there anybody on here into Today Is The Day, a good 3 piece metal band. Does anyone know when the new Cannibal Corpse and Deicide albums coming out? It strikes me funny when people say there is nothing new in metal these days. I think in the past few years metal has been very exciting and creative. Don't get me wrong I still love the 80's, and the 90's underground bands. I'm kinda waiting for the new Death Angel album, I got to hear one of the new songs, and sounded great. Has anybody on here ever bought an album, because they heard one song and the rest of album was crap. I have done that couple times in my life so I hope the new Death Angel album not like that. Hopefully I get to hear a few more songs before I decide to buy it. Fishing season is starting so some of my money will be going into that. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2008 9:33:06 PM | | I know this will sound lame, but I love when metal bands cover 70's-80's pop tunes. Besides Lacuna Coil, and Life of Agony, and Flotsam and Jetsam, are there any others out there that are good? | |
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Posted: 3/13/2008 9:17:34 AM | | i listen to all sorts of metal from ****ing glam metal to black metal. If the guitars are good il love it | |
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Posted: 3/13/2008 1:47:19 PM |
glam metal
OH NO! My ears are bleeding!!!!
Haha. | |
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Posted: 3/15/2008 11:11:05 AM | Hmmm, I never really got into 80-90's metal.
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I guess it's because I didn't really listen to it growing up.
But like most people have already stated, there are good metal bands out there.
Though, one thing I will argue is that most good metal comes from Europe.
Especially Finland.
One band I'd highly suggest would be Finntroll.
They are definitely one of my favorite bands. | |
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Posted: 3/18/2008 4:56:48 PM | | The past few days I have been listening to Bongzilla. I don't think they're the best band around, but I like their stuff well enough. They play a stoner sludge kind of metal with a raw sound. They are very much hemp themed, that makes you wanna light one up. Oh how I remember the good old days. If only it was legalized now so I can enjoy their music and other bands as well that much better. If anybody is interested should really check out Birds of Prey. They consist of members from Alabama Thunder****, Beaten Back To Pure, and I'm not sure about the other members. I read in a magazine that Beaten Back To Pure is working on a new album, and it's halfway done. | |
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