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The ignorant and racist ascribe it to being a function of skin colour. Rather than a result of societal conditions.
This is so true. But I dont think black people commit more crimes because they are black, I think they do it because they can and are allowed to by our laws., and this is a learned behavior.I know what white people did years ago. They did it because they could, the law would not do anything about it. Police started enforcing laws after integration so the majority of it stopped. White people learned they couldnt do it anymore.Its time for the law to enforce black crime.,Not let it go. As for the continent of Africa, it has about the most highest crime rates in the world. I dont blame that on skin colour,I blame it on culture. They can learn to respect others.If its because of poverty, thats not the white mans fault, as blacks of america blame white people for their poverty today | |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 2:49:54 AM |
But I dont think black people commit more crimes because they are black, I think they do it because they can and are allowed to by our laws.,
Bullcrap.
No seriously, the Black population is so vastly over represented in prison, you can't claim they are "allowed to get away with it"
When I talk about societal causes, I'm talking about massive poverty and poor prospects in life. | |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 3:18:35 AM | | Do we have to go over the prison shit again? I am not going to search for it but I posted to you that more whites are executed than blacks,thats why they are not in prison. Da, they dont leave dead people in prison. | |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 4:07:17 AM | The numbers of people actually executed make up such a small portion of the prison population it's a joke.
Here is what I'm going to do to convince you on this.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm
At yearend 2005 there were 3,145 black male sentenced prison inmates per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,244 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 471 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.
A black man is more than 7 times more likely to be in prison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_States
Total[6] 1,097
Thats the total number of executions of prisoners. In your entire history.
If every single one of those people were white. You'd still have more Blacks being convicted of crimes on a per capita basis. The US execution rate is 0.229936 executions per 1 million in order to get the per 100,0000 rate you divide by a further thousand. so 0.0000229936 per hundred thousand is your execution rate.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_exe_percap-crime-executions-per-capita
So lets put this to rest shall we? Blacks don't get away with more crime, their vastly over represented in prison. They're over 7 times more likely to go to prison. | |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 5:03:14 AM | Again Charles, you speak from ignorance. Come on down to the US and visit one of our inner cities. I am sure you will feel safe walking in such areas by yourself (esp at night) . Again your naivety is amazing- there are spots in Philly where it is unsafe to go at any time, and they are made up largely by black people. Numbers don't lie, there IS a reason that blacks are more likely to go to prison, THEY COMMITT MORE CRIMES!!!!!
LOL- I see you chose to put the shirtless pic on your profile. Why am I not surprised????? | |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 5:25:02 AM |
Again Charles, you speak from ignorance. Come on down to the US and visit one of our inner cities. I am sure you will feel safe walking in such areas by yourself (esp at night) . Again your naivety is amazing- there are spots in Philly where it is unsafe to go at any time, and they are made up largely by black people. Numbers don't lie, there IS a reason that blacks are more likely to go to prison, THEY COMMITT MORE CRIMES!!!!!
I didn't say they didn't commit more crimes Philly612. I'm well aware of the horrible state of the inner cities, and that Blacks are much more prone to criminal activity in the United States.
If you bothered reading what I was responding to, was the claim that Blacks somehow get away with more crime, and the claim made by another poster that somehow less whites were in prison due "Whites being executed more often".
The thread is about this bizzare idea of "Black Supremacy" the idea being that Blacks in the United States have it better than whites.
So far we've established.
1.They're poorer on average than whites.
2.They have less political representation.
3.They have been discriminated against legaly within the lifetime of surviving members of their population.
4.They are no less likely to be convicted, and are vastly over represented for their population in the criminal justice system.
Once again, at no point did I claim they didn't do more crime. If you weren't so obviously blinded by your personal dislike for me, it would be pretty self evident.
LOL- I see you chose to put the shirtless pic on your profile. Why am I not surprised?????
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Posted: 12/3/2007 10:45:59 AM | Reading most of the posts on this subject. The diversity of the posts: Affirmative Action is the one that interests me. I think that is what the OP was stating in his first post.
Some ask does his know their qualifications, or was it because they were a minority? Now we do not know the qualifications of the 2 hired. Why would you hire 2 people instead of one? Could there have been 2 positions to fill? We have no Idea. I only quoted a part of some Msgs. about this. Yes I do believe that there are quotas that governments have to fill over the best person for the job.
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Msg. 1
I had a hard life, lived in a bad neighborhood, but still did my best, and I'm somewhat successful now, but since I'm white, my family wasn't able to get into the "urban youth development", and even though I scored a 99% on a test and had a degree in electronics, for a city job to repair a/v and networking systems, 2 black women (that were on welfare) got the job because the city needed to "fill their quota".
Msg. 20
I thought I might mention that it is proven fact that people are paid, given bonuses and incentives to be racist in the hiring sectors.
Msg. 24
businesses take advantage of hiring " minorities", because they get special tax status, and write- offs. This has been going on for some time now.
Msg. 29
"Identified Group" quotas only apply to publicly funded companies or agencies (and not always even in those cases, the school board I work for is not bound by racial quotas, only equal pay).
Msg. 30
I hadn't wanted to mention this without double checking any legal changes I had not heard of but, affirmative action in the US is not much different (by legal obligation) than Canada.
It applies to gov't employment and private contractors/subcontractors who perform gov't paid work as well as educational institutions and other agencies/companies receiving public funds (if your university can survive on private funding only, then you can set your admission criteria pretty much in the way you wish.
Msg. 32
In ref to Msg. 1
This guy is lying, how the hell does he have any idea who got hired instead of him if he didn't get the job, and how the hell would he know their individual education/work backgrounds.
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Ref to Msg. 32
I have an idea how the other person got the job over him.
Only in Canada. Back before you were born.
It came out that gov't agencies had to have a quota on how many minorities it had to hire.
This is all 3 levels of Gov'ts. A lot of people were hired because of race over quailifications.
Msg. 54
Ref to Msg 53
You have speculation, and nothing more.
Msg 73
Ref to Msg. 54
In English, it means. that if the percentage of
aboriginal people is 15%
women is 30%
members of visible minorities is 10%
people with disabilities is 5%
Caucasian male. Which is not in the act. is 40%
Which means that you should have the same percentage of each in your employment.
If that is not a quota then what is?
Msg. 75
Ref to Msg. 73
It's a statement of intention is what it is. Where is the legal mechanism?
Msg. 86
Ref to Msg. 75
Yes it is a statement of intentions to impose quotas
quo·ta (kwo't?) n.
1)A proportional share, as of goods, assigned to a group or to each member of a group; an allotment.
2)A production assignment.
3)
a)A number or percentage, especially of people, constituting or designated as an upper limit: a country with strict annual immigration quotas.
b)A number or percentage, especially of people, constituting a required or targeted minimum: a system of quotas for hiring minority applicants.
Where is the legal mechanism?
I gave you that the EMPOYMENT EQUITY ACT 1995</div class="quote">
I seen it and been there. I have a friend who applied for the same Goverment job I did. She is a minority, She did not at that time have the qualifications for the job, and I did. She got the job over me. The reason was I was over qualified for the position. | |
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Posted: 12/3/2007 10:49:13 AM | Now, Jed. What personal experience of Birmingham or the south during this time can you offer.
I go by facts not recollection's I suggest you read some history books .However after reading a thread you started that was deleted by the moderators I think I know what your position is.And since I do not wish to be banned I will leave it at that! | |
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Posted: 12/4/2007 4:50:39 AM | ("I dont think black people commit more crimes because they are black, I think they do it because they can and are allowed to by our laws., and this is a learned behavior.I know what white people did years ago. They did it because they could, the law would not do anything about it. Police started enforcing laws after integration so the majority of it stopped. White people learned they couldnt do it anymore.Its time for the law to enforce black crime.,Not let it go. As for the continent of Africa, it has about the most highest crime rates in the world. I dont blame that on skin colour,I blame it on culture. They can learn to respect others.If its because of poverty, thats not the white mans fault, as blacks of america blame white people for their poverty today")
Excuse me? That is the stupidest thing i have ever heard on here!
Imagine that the police attempt to control crime by stopping and searching people at random (perhaps they look for stolen goods or something). Suppose further that the police are racist and stop ten times as many black people as white people. In this case, even if black and white people are equally likely to be criminals, the police will still find ten times as many black criminals as white, because everyone they stop has an equal chance of being a criminal, and they are stopping ten times as many black as white people. And, worse, their tactic is self-reinforcing, since an ill-informed police officer (or politician) might infer from the statistics that -- because so many black people are being arrested -- even more black people should be stopped and searched. But of course this is an incredibly inefficient (as well as unfair) way for the police to try to cut down on crime, since they are letting the (usually much larger) white segment of the population get away with much shallower scrutiny. And it might lead a lazy observer to conclude that black people are more likely to commit crime, while in fact what they're seeing is the effect of racist policing. And since you live in a white governed country is it not the case that you are far more likely to hear about reportings of black crime than white crime so that it would seem that black people were commiting more crime?
And i will tell you, as a mixed race person who knows what she's talking about and isn't just generalising, what is the problem with many blacks, and it does go back to slavery. The problem is that many, right or wrong, feel that they are "owed" something by the white people because of what happened to their ancestors. I do not agree with this view, i don't think that what happened over 50 years ago should be the responsibility of people that were not even born. I believe it is up to each person to change it, because after all in the end it is down to each individual what they choose to do. You are sort of right about the learned behaviour part, however, if white people continually send out the notion that black people are less intelligent, lazy, criminals, who have no value because they are buying into the mindset of people that were around at that time and passed on this skewed message, too many of black youths will live this out in a self prophasizing way. You can only hear the message you are no good or you are lesser than you are for so long before you actually start to believe it! So by repeating this message like you all are you are doing nothing but serving to keep the cycle going. The youth are just angry, feel let down, and sometimes its the small things which affectes them i.e. lack of self esteem, lack of knowledge of who they really are, their heritage, culture, history. Man, what a history! Whenever schools teach about this all you hear about are the negatives such as slavery, you never learn about black doctors, scientists and explorers and the impact they made on the world...even though there were so many! All black people want is some dignity, they do not want to have to rely on speacial schemes, they do not want speacial favours they want to be treat like everybody else. They don't want to be given jobs "to make up the number of blacks"! They want to do things on their own merit but they can only do this if they are given the same chances as everyone else and at the moment this is not the case.
A vast majority of the black community are law abiding citizens, unfortunately a growing number follow the alleged trend of "gangsta rap" and commit crimes without considering what they are doing or even the after effect they have on the community as a whole. These offenders keep on because they supposedly want to keep up the image and live life like gangsta rappers. It's the music industry that needs to start the ball rolling by killing off the hype and publicity of these groups that only propogate the violence and crime by glamourizing it. However, how can you put anything down to one thing? Afterall, when people had rock which can be equally as negative gangs of youths didn't go around trashing hotels and taking heroin just because the music industry said it was cool! So to blame the music is a cop out. Personally, i think black people just lack positive role models because you don't ever hear of any being promoted, and many black youths have no fathers in their lives so the only people they have to idolise are these music "artists", it has nothing to do with the music as such. These role models could be positive instead of negative ones if they only sent out the right messages, but they cannot do that because most of them have grown up in the same, bitter, eaten up society that the youths have!
As for your comments on Africa, you could not be more ignorant if you tried! I think it comes down to more than just "learning to be respect"! Infact in Africa, the majority have a great deal of respect for one another, far more so than in the UK or America where many youths have lost all respect for everything! You do realise that you are talking about a country where there is no food, money, water, education and a corrupt leader?! Where even the poice are corrupt? I think it comes down to more than "learning to repect"! I bet you didn't know that bribery of African public officials by America was actually legal?! If you are treated like an animal then you will act like one. In a world without media, how are you ever supposed know what"normal" is if all u've ever lived and seen is corruption? What are you supposed to do if every time you speak out somebody rapes your daughter or murders your entire family?! Somehow i don't think respect is going to help them! And the other countries who stand by and allow it are indeed to blame. It is no good saying it's not their problem...it's EVERYBODY'S problem. And when certain countries contribute to it out of sheer greed then who else can you blame but them? You do realise how you get diamonds, right? And coffee and about 50% of your oil???....I'll give you a clue...it's NOT the supermarket or the Esso station!!!
There is a reason why America is one of the richest countries in the world! | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 8:25:12 AM | yes, I was a navy brat
That's suprising as hell
yes,The racial makeup of the town is 45.4% White, 45.2% African American,The median income for a household in the area is $31,647, and the median income for a family is $32,913. Males have a median income of $27,039 versus $18,858 for females. I am a single female. I know what I am talking about. Read about Dudley, NC.
Nice stats, but that was only part of my question. I was asking you about violence and drugs also. It's one thing to live in a poverish community, but when you add drugs and violence it makes a heck of a difference.
I notice you rely on a lot of article and statistics. FYI, the census isn't the most accurate source for numbers. It's a good estimate or guess, that's about it. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 8:57:27 AM | | does anybody realize is that the plight of black people is that they are becoming a fatherless nation, iam not saying that a single black female cant raise a good kid , its just real hard, not just for them but for any single parent( male or female ), you factor in the time that the parent spends at work to have money for the kid it wont leave much time for the kid, and with society going the way it is thats not good.to be honest iam sick of of people ( not just black ) that have kids and then either dont, wont, or cant take care of them blame other people on how its there fault.also i think blacks have real poor role models, it sad when people like 50 cents are held at a higher level then a collen powell, but thats just my opinion! | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 9:04:46 AM | | No you are right, there are alarming numbers of fatherless black kids, but to be honest i don't think that that is the worst part of the problem as any father who up's and leaves their kid is irrisponsible and careless and wouldn't have been a good role model anyway. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 9:13:05 AM | | i agree but i was using them as separate issues not the same issue, but with that being said that still puts a strain on the single parent and thats assuming that the other parent is responable, if not that really puts the child behind the 8 ball in life | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 10:50:22 AM | "so-called discrimintation" eh? Well you don't like whinners but you seem to indulge in it. I find it interesting that you talk about race all the time.
Why would you find that interesting Charles? Aren't we talking about race right now? I think it's a subject people try to avoid too much just because they are afraid to offend someone. But it is an issue nonetheless that needs attention.
I don't think anybody ignores the problem with African American crime. The ignorant and racist ascribe it to being a function of skin colour. Rather than a result of societal conditions. The gangsta rap culture is of course massively counter productive. You know what else is counter productive to moving forward in life? Living in a ghetto, being born in a ghetto, being surrounded by a ghetto.
You know, I live in a "ghetto" myself. I wasn't born here no, but I'm here anyway. Does this mean it's time for me to start sagging my pants down, carry a pistol, and sell some crack? I don't think so. I'm sorry but every race has poor people. The " I live in the ghetto so I have to go get mine " bs is just an exuse. There are lagit ways to improve your life, like...hard work, education. And guess what? Black people have more opportunities than white people do. They can use the Negro College Fund, or maybe a group of five blacks can beat the crap out of a white kid and the black community will give them lots of money to support them???!!!
No people can believe differently, they should just expect criticism when they believe in something so wrong.
Who are you to say someone is wrong if they think segregation is right? Sure it happened in the past, right? Different drinking fountains and all that? There's a group called the Nation of Islam that believes states should be separated, and each race should have their own territory. Of course, they also want the white states to support them for twenty years too. I can disagree all I want, and so can anyone. But to them, it's not morally wrong. To them they are establishing a territorial imperitive to secure their people so they can survive, so that their culture can survive. So do white segragationists. They will all say you are wrong. That you shouldn't be in government. But America is founded on the people being represented in government, even the people you don't agree with. So if a guy is in government believes in segregation, everyone who wants that is represented, no matter what your race is.
We're all part of the human race. The entire point of what were discussing is that certain subgroups of that race in society have been getting a raw deal for a very long time.
Sure. And people are trying to use the "raw deal" to justify them needing "extra" to catch up, or using the "raw deal" as an exuse to commit crimes. Oh and guess what...there are different races. We do have differences. They should be embraced because all races has much to offer all of mankind.
Oh boy anti-semitism.
Where? When I said Jews control half the government? That's fact. This country is based on voting, and the people that control the media control a good portion of the people. Also, Jews control our money and a solid portion of the legal system. "Oh boy anit-semitism" this statement does not put fear in me. Neither does the label racist. I will have this discussion with anyone, in person, at any time. There is no fear here for me. So label away, I'm not like that guy who speaks the loudest against his own people because of fear.
So people seeing that you're not a racist makes you weak. I guess that means you think racism is a sign of strength?
Actually it means I think people who think for themselves and doen't let how other people think of them influence them are people with valid opinions. People who speak out for the benefit of others are weak and cowardly. Their opinions are not really thier own. They are not free-thinkers...they are slaves to their peers.
I think that people who are for their people are good people. They are loyal people, and brave. This goes for any person of any race. Even those 'evil' white people. What becomes a problem is when people try to disparage against another race...that's when things get bad. In today's society, white people are being attacked. People are taught that white's are evil, and white children are fed guilt for being who they are. Every race throughout history has been victimized in one form or another. People of today's age shouldn't feel any shame in being white. So it is a sign of strength (to me) when someone is bold enough to say they are a proud person. Especially if they are white because so many people will stand against them.
Oh and one more thing....I am proud to be white. Plus, I can tell you are not. That's sad.
And conspiracy theory. Better and better.
Um...dude....I thought everyone knew about Free Masons. It's all over our money, Washington DC is shaped in Mason symbolism. There are lodges...everywhere???!!! In all federal prisons half the staff are members, and the symbols are all over. Google does wonders. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to insult you in saying that either, because there are a million and one things I don't know about.
Odd, I'm not scared.
That's good to know. So...that makes you...a traitor to your own people? Or are you a person that thinks every race doesn't have any distinction? "Let's create the gray race!" Embrace your ancestry, your family, your people.
Oh and yes sir...you just might be that scared individual who simply wants to 'fit in'. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 11:30:48 AM | I took someones advice and read some history. I wanted to share something.
http://www.kkklan.com/negroklan.htm
I was also curious of how the KKK and black people were getting along lately. I will share this with you as well.
http://atheism.about.com/b/2003/09/30/black-church-allies-with-kkk.htm
Now people can believe this or not, but I am sure every one knows the US government /media is not truthful about alot of things. Can ya;ll at least consider the fact our government/media is not being truthful about the mistreatment of blacks? I am not denying mistreatment in the past, but its not as bad as our government/media makes it out to be.
And as far as what people read, I believe experience is the best teacher.I dont know what black people are like in the northern or western part of the USA or other parts of the world. I know southern blacks. I have lived in NC,SC,Ala., Fla, and Va.I know the culture of the southern black people. There should be no black pride down here. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 12:34:27 PM |
I notice you rely on a lot of article and statistics.
I dont have a link to post of my thoughts or experience. But you want personal experience of my life in school, other than Birmingham. Most class disruptions were caused by black kids. Most fights and bloodiest fights were done by black kids. My seventh grade teacher, black man, would throw desk, books and had been known to break a window or two every time he got mad. He also flipped desk over with students in them.My daughter was constantly harassed by black kids. The black teacher, to her own admission to me, said Dixie told her about this problem many times but she couldn't do anything because she has never seen this being done, and she will not punish a child if she don't see something happen. That was her policy. The day I was to go to the board of education, she called me to come get Dixie for a suspension for threatening a black boy that pushed her. She admitted she did not hear Dixie threaten him while telling me she couldn't punish the black boy because she didn't see him push her. Well, to make a long story short. When I left the school, the teacher got called to the office, and was somehow sick from school for three days and the black boy was suspended for 5 days. I admit, the principal was black, but in the past, he had never responded to my phone calls until I told him the next time someone hit or pushed my daughter, I was taking assault charges out. I still went to the BOE to have my daughter transferred to another school, mostly white. Her grades have improved and so has her5 self esteem.
Imagine that the police attempt to control crime by stopping and searching people at random (perhaps they look for stolen goods or something). Suppose further that the police are racist and stop ten times as many black people as white people. In this case, even if black and white people are equally likely to be criminals, the police will still find ten times as many black criminals as white, because everyone they stop has an equal chance of being a criminal, and they are stopping ten times as many black as white people.
My town is slightly more blacks than whites. So I will assume the Dudly police department is about the same black/white ratio. Why don't black racist cops find as much things on white people when they stop to search them.
The ignorant and racist ascribe it to being a function of skin colour. Rather than a result of societal conditions.
I believe it to be because social conditions.
NatC, forgive me, please. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 5:50:40 PM | ("My town is slightly more blacks than whites. So I will assume the Dudly police department is about the same black/white ratio. Why don't black racist cops find as much things on white people when they stop to search them.")
That may be true but they are following orders from higher ranks based on the notion that blacks commit more crime so must be stopped more, which isn't true, it's just because they are stopped more so get caught more. Also, statistics on the number of stop and searches are misleading as they indicate that less black people are stopped and searched than what really are, because many more are arrested and searched in custody. In New Jersey the police ADMIT to using racial profiling for their stops and searches and it is thought to be more prevalent than is admitted. Even when the police go to court for any kind of brutality they often face an all white jury so are rarely convicted of anything.
Here is a few informative articles you may like to take a look at:
http://challengenewspaper.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/rulers%E2%80%99-wars-intensify-racist-police-state/
http://www.answers.com/topic/institutional-racism
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Posted: 12/5/2007 6:33:38 PM | | Anti white racism in certain areas exists probably to an equal or greater extent owing to the fact that black people are so angry about their past treatment and some are misusing their new found power. I also think that a percentage of black people use their colour as an excuse for everything in life. Their failiures, their shortcomings, everything is all down to their history. They act like they have no say and that's just not so, how is progress to be made if people will not accept their own misgivings as THEIR misgivings and nobody elses. However, to deny that black racism exists at all is rather foolish of you, and for people to say "imagine a world without BLACK supremacy" instead of simply "imagine a world without supremecy (full stop!)", speaks volumes. What that statement says to me is that supremecy is OK as long as it's not black supremacy. NO supremacy is OK, NO racism is Ok, whether it's black on white, white on black, black on black or white on white. To deny that institutional racism exists and that the KKK are a racist organisation simply because black people allegedly participated in them, makes me scratch my head in disbelief. What does that prove? It only proves that they had an agenda, a way of justifying their actions. It proves to what extent black people have lost their identities and are confused and misinformed, when they are willing to join an organisation that is known for oppression and violence against their own race. In a nutshell, it PROVES nothing except that some black people have given up hoping for equality and have adopted the defeatest "if you can't beat 'em join 'em" attitude. At least then they will be accepted. Respected by the white people. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 7:13:31 PM | Arienna The web page you gave was very informitive. Thank you.
Claire. The statements you make are very vaild. You do look at both sides of the issues.
I think the OT named this thread wrong in the first place.
It has more to the hiring of Minorities over a more quailifed person. Affirmative Action.
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I had a hard life, lived in a bad neighborhood, but still did my best, and I'm somewhat successful now, but since I'm white, my family wasn't able to get into the "urban youth development", and even though I scored a 99% on a test and had a degree in electronics, for a city job to repair a/v and networking systems, 2 black women (that were on welfare) got the job because the city needed to "fill their quota". | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 9:21:58 PM |
I had a hard life, lived in a bad neighborhood, but still did my best, and I'm somewhat successful now, but since I'm white, my family wasn't able to get into the "urban youth development", and even though I scored a 99% on a test and had a degree in electronics, for a city job to repair a/v and networking systems, 2 black women (that were on welfare) got the job because the city needed to "fill their quota".
Yah poster number 1 apparently has psychic powers, because he knows these womens backgrounds, he is also capable of doing two peoples jobs at the same time.
and you would find a Klu Klux Klan webpage informative on race relations. Tell me, do you go to neo nazi websites when you're looking for Jewish history? | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 10:19:54 PM | I am not denying mistreatment in the past, but its not as bad as our government/media makes it out to be.
Violence against slaves
Virginia, 1705 -- "If any slave resist his master...correcting such slave, and shall happen to be killed in such correction...the master shall be free of all punishment...as if such accident never happened."
On large plantations, slave overseers were authorized to whip and brutalize non-compliant slaves. Slave codes authorized, indemnified or even required the use of violence, and were denounced by abolitionists for their brutality. Both slaves and free blacks were regulated by the Black Codes, and had their movements monitored by slave patrols conscripted from the white population which were allowed to use summary punishment against escapees, sometimes maiming or killing them. In addition to physical abuse and murder, slaves were at constant risk of losing members of their families if their owners decided to trade them for profit, punishment, or to pay debts. | |
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| Imagine a world without black supremacy
Posted: 12/5/2007 10:24:52 PM | Rosewood was a small community of 25 to 30 mostly black families in Levy County in central Florida, USA. Today, it is best known for the racially driven attack on African Americans by whites in January 1923, known as the Rosewood massacre. The town was abandoned during the massacre. It had been a "whistle stop" on the Seaboard Air Line Railway, located on the north side of State Road 24 half a mile east of the intersection with Levy County Road 345.
The 1923 incident was preceded by a lynching of 3 black men accused of raping a white woman in Macclenny, Florida in 1920, a lynching in 1921 of a black man accused of attacking a white woman in Wauchula, Florida, and a 1922 lynching where a black man was burned to death for the alleged murder of a white school teacher in Perry, Florida where the black Masonic Lodge was also burned down.
On January 1, 1923, the Ku Klux Klan held a parade and rally of over 100 hooded Klansmen in nearby Gainesville, Florida under a burning cross and a banner reading, “First and Always Protect Womanhood." The very same day in Rosewood, a 22-year-old married white woman named Fannie Taylor claimed a black man had knocked on her door and attacked her. Her official report indicated that he beat her about the face, but did not rape her, although other sources claim that she was both raped and robbed. Nine-year-old Lee Ruth Davis, a black resident of Rosewood, reported after the incident that it was in fact a white man employed by the Seaboard Air Line Railway that visited Mrs. Taylor. Davis' grandmother was Sarah Carrier, who did Mrs. Taylor's washing and ironing once a week. Along with Davis' cousin, they witnessed the man enter the Taylor house and leave sometime before noon. | |
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| Imagine a world without black supremacy
Posted: 12/5/2007 11:08:27 PM | Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the name of several past and present organizations in the United States that have advocated white supremacy, anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism, racism, homophobia, anti-Communism and nativism. These organizations have often used terrorism, violence, and acts of intimidation, such as cross burning and lynching, to oppress African Americans and other social or ethnic groups.
Beginning in the 1950s, a large number of the individual Klan groups began to resist the civil rights movement. This resistance involved numerous acts of violence and intimidation. Among the more notorious events of this time period were:
Anthony and Viola Liuzzo, 1949The assassination of NAACP organizer Medgar Evers in Mississippi. In 1994, former Ku Klux Klansman Byron De La Beckwith was convicted of Evers' murder.
The 1966 firebombing death of NAACP leader Vernon Dahmer Sr., 58, also in Mississippi. In 1998 former Ku Klux Klan wizard Sam Bowers was convicted of Dahmer's murder. Two other Klan members were indicted with Bowers, but one died before trial, and the other's indictment was dismissed.[62]
The 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Alabama, which killed four children. Four Klansmen were named as suspects; they were not prosecuted until years later. The Klan members were Robert Chambliss, convicted in 1977, Thomas Blanton and Bobby Frank Cherry, convicted of murder in 2001 and 2002. The fourth suspect, Herman Cash, died before he was indicted.
The murder of Willie Edwards, Jr., in 1957. Edwards was forced by Klansmen to jump to his death from a bridge into the Alabama River.[63]
The 1964 murders of civil rights workers Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner in Mississippi. In June 2005, Klan member Edgar Ray Killen was convicted of manslaughter in the murders.[64]
The 1965 murder of Viola Liuzzo, a Southern-raised white mother of five who was visiting the South from her home in Detroit to attend a civil rights march. At the time of her murder Liuzzo was transporting Civil Rights Marchers.
In August 2007, James Ford Seale, a reputed Ku Klux Klansman was convicted of the 1964 murder of two black teenagers, Henry Hezekiah Dee and Charles Eddie Moore, based on the confession of Klansman Charles Marcus Edwards. Seale was sentenced to serve three life sentences.[65] Seale was a former Mississippi policeman and sheriff's deputy.[66]
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| Affirmative Action?
Posted: 12/5/2007 11:28:24 PM |
and you would find a Klu Klux Klan webpage informative on race relations
Yes I did maybe you should check out both links she posted | |
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