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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 1:05:11 AM | Not for us Brits they're not....LOL... cheer up jazz fan, who cares!
Thing is, when you meet a person in the real world, you might really get on with them in everyway, what if 3 months later you discover they can't spell to your satisfaction, are you people sooooo petty minded you would end the relationship because of it?
As I said before, I know lots of sucessful people with great personalities who can't spell perfectly, so what? | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 2:33:57 AM | First, to answer your question, I WOULD respond to someone with bad grammar or spelling errors. I know a lot of intelligent, wise and honorable people who are illiterate or who do not have perfect English grammar. Your post just offends me personally because I know I am not perfect and neither are you. People here are criticizing others' not meeting their standards while they do not see their own imperfections. It just sparks my curiosity when for some reason, people think they are too good for other people when they are ignorant of their own flaws.
I apologize for being curious and checking to see how intelligent you are. Here is something I quoted from your profile:
" I am spending part of the summer not only working with the Eskimo;but, also taking the time to go halibut fishing. I have never done that;but have always wanted to."
Just so you know, a semi colon is used to separate two independent clauses. You have to make sure you can replace it with a period if you are not sure when to use it.
If you know you shouldn't be so picky, then why are you? It may not always be an indication of how they communicate in person because many people can speak English but not be able to write. I know this for a fact because I have tutored native English speakers on how to write essays.
You may proofread my writing...I would only appreciate it...I take constructive criticisms well. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 5:19:00 AM | Please, please, puleeease tell me where the spell checker is?
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Can no one answer me this?
Well, it should automatically prompt you when you type here. I suppose it depends upon your web browser being compatible with the software in this website but when you incorrectly type a word or miss a space between words, you should then find a wavy red line under the error.
This is the prompt that alerts you to your error. This is certainly more helpful than if you didn't have the feature. It allows you to then check your error. You will either spot the mistake and correct it, or simply type it into dictionary. com and there a prompt will give you new choices. Sure, it's a bit of work but the bottom line is if you want to reach others of like mind, you need to make the effort.
Microsoft Word is a wonderful program for prompting more than just misspelled words, it also corrects fractured sentences.
It is rather tiresome to see so many people misspell or misuse some pretty basic words like your for you're or to, too, and two, recieve for receive, tounge when they mean tongue (I never understood that one!), and it stems from poor rudimentary education at the lowest levels. Once those mistakes go untrained, it becomes very difficult to correct later in life bit not impossible. Not all people who make these common mistakes are dyslexic.
I wonder if such common butchering of the English language also occurs in other languages such as French, Italian, Spanish... | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 5:32:35 AM | Timorek, the bar has just been lowered way waaaay too far. You know the world is in trouble, when so many people think that things like spelling, and the most basic of grammar rules are unimportant.
Amen sister! I cringe whenever I see fractured sentences and misspelled words in print, on billboards, TV broadcasts and now with POD printed books created without the benefit of a proofreader and an editor, UGH! It won't be long before we are totally unable to communicate with one another. So excusing bad grammar on a semi-private forum board may seem trivial but it has already extended into the public forum where children are influenced by hideously poor grammar and spelling. I can't tell you how many American children are continuing to be confused by "Toys R' Us" (with the backwards "R" in place of are, and even then "Toys are Us" is very bad grammar.) | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 6:53:27 AM |
For heaven's sake, you all need to GROW the F...K up!! Just because a person is not a good speller or an inept typist, doesn't mean that he/she is not worth giving consideration.
Despite what I've written in previous posts on this thread, I more or less agree with the second sentence. But, as in the first sentence, equating illiteracy with maturity is a bit too much for me to take. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 7:43:55 AM |
Well, it should automatically prompt you when you type here. I suppose it depends upon your web browser being compatible with the software in this website
Tanks, Fox. I use AOL's browser, but I also have IE and Firefox on my computer. I'll have to try those and see if the beloved and greatly appreciated squiggly red line appears.  | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 8:18:14 AM | | As an editor, I do cringe at the sight of misspelled words and poor grammar. However, it's not a measure of a person's intelligence. That man may be an expert in military history or quantum physics ... or even an ace cook! Intelligence is measured not by what you know but by your capacity to learn them. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 8:29:34 AM | For those who say that spelling and grammar aren't (as) important - and that you simply aren't good at them, what is it that stops you from becoming better? If you say it doesn't matter, would you be as accepting of a person who takes a similar attitude in their approach to something you view as important? Say it's your car mechanic, who says "Your car will run but it's not going to get the gas mileage it should because I don't think it's that important for me to spend the time on it."
I see a big difference between those who may not know all the rules of grammar and those who know their shortcomings and don't care, even going on the offensive to accuse those for whom grammar is important of being snobby and rigid. More than some grammatical errors, it's the attitude that gives me some concern about the person's potential as a mate.
Intelligence is measured not by what you know but by your capacity to learn them.
Yup. And what about those who don't care enough to learn? | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 9:35:46 AM | | I agree with you. Most of the time, it turns me off too. If you are IM or chatting, its understandable. I know my mind goes faster than my fingers. I try to correct as I go, but sometimes things pass unnoticed. However, when someone does it on their profile or constantly throughout their emails, it seems lazy to me. Speed is not the case there. You have all the time in the world to correct your mistakes. One of my college professors use to complain all the time about the poor grammar and use of text messaging shortcuts in papers submitted to her, and she wasn't a English teacher. What disturbs me, if these people are claiming to be professional people and don't know the difference between your and you're or that I is a pronoun that is capitalized, what is our country coming to. Maybe I'm too picky too, but I'd rather live in a country that puts its best foot forward rather than what is easy and quick. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 10:18:02 AM | I agree with you. Most of the time, it turns me off too. If you are IM or chatting, its understandable. I know my mind goes faster than my fingers. I try to correct as I go, but sometimes things pass unnoticed. However, when someone does it on their profile or constantly throughout their emails, it seems lazy to me. Speed is not the case there. You have all the time in the world to correct your mistakes. One of my college professors use to complain all the time about the poor grammar and use of text messaging shortcuts in papers submitted to her, and she wasn't a English teacher. What disturbs me, if these people are claiming to be professional people and don't know the difference between your and you're or that I is a pronoun that is capitalized, what is our country coming to. Maybe I'm too picky too, but I'd rather live in a country that puts its best foot forward rather than what is easy and quick.
"Calif1971", well said. If people are trying to meet others, we always want to put our best foot forward, and if we are unconcerned about our communication skills in simple grammar and spelling, what does that say about other areas of our lives? Sure, it isn't the end of the world if our weakness were in the Social Sciences but basic comprehension of your native language surely isn't asking too much.
There is a general lack of concern for foundation education, by many Americans at least, and the emphasis seems to be more on making lots of money any way possible and few actually accomplish this without a solid educational foundation. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 11:06:54 AM |
I don't care enough about quantum physics to learn it. Doesn't mean I couldn't fall inlove with a quantum physicist if he is charming and loving and values my worth as a woman.
Um, not a valid comparison. This suggests that our native language is a special course of study, a pursuit of higher learning - and it's not. The basics tools of the language are available to all of us. Those who wish to become writers, editors, or linguists can choose an advanced course of study to learn more about elements of style, the history of the language, etc. I don't think any of us here who have spoken in favor of correct spelling and grammar are insisting that everyone be little Shakespeares-in-training, just that a basic command of proper English is desirable. It's too bad some people can't even achieve that - not because of disability or reduced intellectual capacity, only because they just don't care. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 11:42:50 AM | I'm sorry but when you are online the typed word is one of the main ways in which you express yourself and kind of show people who you are. I am less concerned about it if I met you in person or if I already know you.
People always say to me " Wow, you type just like how you talk."
I think what you type is the ONLY indicator I have of how you are when we're communicating online. I imagine the voice in my mind, etc. So if you have horrible spelling and grammar I am imagining that that is how you actually speak. I love talking and I love being on the phone or talking in person so sorry I am going to be turned off if I think you speak horribly.
Not to say I have not and would not give someone a chance who wasn't a great speller or didn't have impeccable grammar; however, I cannot help the first impression it gives me. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 3:03:21 PM |
Um, not a valid comparison.
Um, actually it IS a valid comparison. True, the "basic tools" of SPOKEN language are learned naturally, before school age, but putting ideas to paper (or screen) can be something else entirely. I agree that misspellings and the like are annoying to people like you and I but that's because it's a talent that comes easily to us. Some people don't care to master our language but I wouldn't write them off as inherently stupid. Their talents simply lie elsewhere. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 4:49:08 PM | If your modem talked with it’s own standard of 27 data bits and 8 parity bits, no stop bits and with a handshake only known to freemasons, how would you expect to communicate with any other computer on the internet? Common Standards permit free information exchange.
how many times?
The ability or willingness to spell and apply grammar rules correctly isn’t a base indicator of intelligence. Never said it was, just that it suggests a lack of care and thought.
If you are texting or even emailing someone then okay, maybe you can flout a few rules for the sake of time. Most people however do not update their profile more than once a week let alone 10 times a day. It’s as good set in stone. Surely for your own benefit you should review your own profile and weed out the obvious mistakes. Your profile is the shop window of your business. What sort of person do you wish to attract to buy your product? What sort of person do you think you can attract?
The conclusion to be drawn must be this. Anyone about to contact another fish should first read that person’s profile. In addition to checking that your interests, vital statistics, location, etc, etc all match adequately, you should also parse the profile to check whether you two are grammatically a good match. Don’t bother contacting someone with a well written profile if yours is rubbish. Now that’s not rocket science is it?
Also we could split the forums into two areas. The area for those of us who wish to communicate using good grammar and spelling, and the area for those who cannot or will not bother to use good grammar and spelling.
It would be an interesting sociological experiment to see how long it was before people started sneaking from one side to the other because they were fed up with either the boring regimentation or the slack incomprehensibility of their own side respectively.
And then we could have threads complaining about the vocabulary apartheid and the grammar divide. Later on there will be discussions about mixed marriages and how the children will cope with having one parent who is absolutely crap at English homework and the other parent crap at social studies homework.
But talking seriously. Our argument is also that by consistently allowing standards to fall in all aspects of life, we will soon reach a stage where people aren’t sure what they are talking about. If you stick closely to the rules most of the time the standard can be maintained. But drifting your own way means chaos. Standards? Yes. You argue that it is okay to write how you like. But unless another person understands you then you are wasting your ink. So you have to have an ‘agreed’ standard between you. The further away from the path everyone walks, the more overgrown that original path becomes until it is lost forever. And with everyone making their own path, no one path ever gets walked along enough to keep clear of weeds and debris to trip and confuse people.
I do know that some people have dyslexia and how much it can affect their lives from school days onward. But even dyslexics know how to use a word processor, some have made the effort to achieve a degree with honours in their 40s when they left school with only 3 CSEs so why cant others manage the simpler task of spell checking their own profile?
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/9/2008 6:45:51 PM |
I suppose it depends upon your web browser being compatible with the software in this website but when you incorrectly type a word or miss a space between words, you should then find a wavy red line under the error.
Tanks again Mr. Fox....I'm a happy camper at this particular juncture. I'm using Firefox from now on! I just posted in another forum and was about to have to go to Dictionary.com (as I do about a zillion times a day) to look something up, but that rip-roarin' spellchecker saved me the trouble. ::doing dance of joy:: | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 10:52:01 AM | ^^^^
This is quite interesting, isn't it? But, when you think about it, writing by intentionally misspelling all but the first and last letter in each word requires (a) rules, and (b) that the rules should be followed. So wouldn't it be just as easy to try to follow the rules of conventional English?
In the spirit of the messages about this, from now on I'm going to spell my nickname, jazz-fan, as jizz-fun.  | |
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