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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 3:30:08 PM | I think it matters..
Says a lot about who is at the other end.. Some are just not paying attention to what they write, and don't proof anything. (Profiles often reflect that too). But all that has significance. How much, is a judgment call.
However, if they write really poorly, chances are in person they talk even worse. 
If it's really bad, I usually respond and recommend a good spell-checker.. 
-Suth'nBoy 
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 4:19:56 PM | | The short answer is yes, it is being too critical. I couldn't read the whole thread, not pages and pages of people declaring that good spelling and grammar are the very basics by which we judge prospective partners, I didn't have the stomach for it. Not everyone is lucky enough to benefit from a good education, and others may have specific learning difficulties. My own son is currently studying at university but hampered by his severe dyslexia - his spelling is generally so bad that even spell check can't help. His experience has taught me not to be so quick to judge others. He's intelligent and articulate to speak to - I know that people may say that this obviously is not what the op intended but how can you possibly tell? I know my son's daily struggle, to go to a place of learning, where 'normal' people complete the same work in a fraction of the time that he's able to, where life is so difficult for him, but he keeps going. He has great qualities in abundance, but I guess that due to his problems with spelling I can expect that he will never find a partner, such is life! (The last sentence was just dripping with sarcasm, just in case anyone reading this cannot read between the lines!) | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 6:33:47 PM |
he will never find a partner, such is life! (The last sentence was just dripping with sarcasm, just in case anyone reading this cannot read between the lines!)
My dear aangel maybe if you tell him he is worthy, he could find a partner.
Dyslexia does not impair true relations with another. Rather it is ones perception that impairs the ability to see love~unabridged.
* Spelling errors — Because of difficulty learning letter-sound correspondences, individuals with dyslexia might tend to misspell words, or leave vowels out of words.
* Letter order - Dyslexics may also reverse the order of two letters especially when the final, incorrect, word looks similar to the intended word (e.g., spelling "dose" instead of "does").
* Highly phoneticized spelling - Dyslexics also commonly spell words inconsistently, but in a highly phonetic form such as writing "shud" for "should". Dyslexic individuals also typically have difficulty distinguishing among homophones such as "their" and "there".
* Reading — Due to dyslexics' excellent long term memory, young students tend to memorize beginning readers, but are unable to read individual words or phrases.
* Vocabulary - Having a small written vocabulary, even if they have a large spoken vocabulary.
Really it is about how Dyslexic one is. Like love, there are varying degrees ascribed as to what we are capable of.
Some can spell and some can love.
And as shown by some on this thread, some can do neither. Only hate for people they wish not to understand.
I personally know of individuals who are in a lifetime relationship, dealing with all these issues, they are dyslexic in written words but not in meaningful communication.
May your armpits be infested by a thousand fleas. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 6:34:45 PM | | I quite agree. Grammar and spelling are huge to me. It irritates the shit out of me if people net speak while trying to 'meet' someone. It's fine if I know the person and it's an occasional thing for the humor of the conversation or something. Seems a rare thing now a day though.... =_= | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 7:02:01 PM |
Some can spell and some can love.
And as shown by some on this thread, some can do neither. Only hate for people they wish not to understand.
That's funny....I don't recall seeing anyone say they hated anyone on this thread. I also think it has little to do with one's desire or lack thereof to understand; it's about preference and personal choice. One of the perks of being an adult. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 8:35:32 PM | contact the local dyslexia support group, there is supposed to be a program that goes beyond normal spellchecking and picks up on correctly spelled words written in error by context. Still not perfect but it helps.
Maybe we have been harsh on the bad spellers in POF. We should assume that they are all dyslexic or have other similar reasons for not been able to write to high school standards.
love and peace
hug someone new today 
regards from 40, defender of the faith, the weak and the ridiculous. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 8:39:53 PM | For me it depends on the extent of the bad grammer and misspelled words. If it is totally unreadable or you can tell its slear lazyness. Then well...........
But I do have to admit, my grammer is really bad, my spelling is not a whole lot better, but I try. It does not mean that I am not smart or that im not educated. It has always been an issue with me right from grade school. I can still remember my grade 8 teacher spending hours and hours with me so I could go on to high school. I ended up with a A in spelling and grammer but by time I got to high school I had lost it. It seems any schooling that I have done since has been a real issue and I have had to work extra hard. So please don't totally shut people out due to issues such as that. It could be it is just not there best quality. It also does not mean that that is how they talk. It is possible to that there is dyslexia. I need spell check. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/10/2008 9:36:55 PM | A writer can include or dis include words of hate or love. They, non-inclusives, do not especially like to profess their hate. As such, won't write hate of said. But by disclaiming the afflicted misspeller's and don't wanna be English Lit Professors, from friendships and more. They are actually saying, 'I don't want to be anywhere near the misspeller's.'
Which, in my mind , shows hateful non-inclusiveness.
They think,
Get the fawk out of my life because you can not distinguish there from their.
<div class="quote">....I don't recall seeing anyone say they hated anyone on this thread.
The words themselves need not be spoken, or written, for us to hear them.
<div class="quote">love and peace
hug someone new today
regards from 40, defender of the faith, the weak and the ridiculous. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/11/2008 12:15:00 AM | In this day and age where computers are in every household, school, and business, I would have to wonder about someone who doesn't know how to type properly, its' really no different than writing on paper. I wouldn't judge them for it, but it wouldn't necessarily attract me to them either.
Then there are those who know how to type well but insist on typing in slang or ghetto type gibberish: " haha wuss popin mah nigg....we gotta klick up soon ya herd.....get at me ighhhh.....SiNN" <------------the actual words of someone! | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/11/2008 4:05:59 AM | Seems like there are a few of you who are overly sensitive, and take the defensive immediately when called down on poor spelling, grammar, sentence syntax. The very basics of communicating on the simplest of levels when writing, are taught in the lower grades. Simple contractions are confused with possessives. This is learned in the 1st grade people. Come on!
So by the time we've (contraction) gotten to the "3rd Grade" the basics of sentence structure have already been demonstrated and explained to us... if we were paying attention. People learn in different ways, not all the same, but it is still the same problem. Some get the message and some don't. (contraction) Possessive: Sally's or Bob's.
I don't (contraction) see any hostility in anyone's (contraction) comments here. People who rush to defend themselves with the "Dyslexia" excuse aren't (contraction) always Dyslexic. There was a time when it was considered shameful to admit such a condition, but now too many people seem to lean on it as an excuse when I suspect that they just missed the basics of English in their formative school years.
Not everyone has the ability to be a Rocket Scientist but it sure is a pity that a significant amount of native Americans are unable to write, or speak properly these days. Somewhere along the way our education system has failed us. Kids in this country barely speak English at all comparatively and in places like China they not only speak several dialectics of their own language but in the cities they are taught English from very young and speak it better than most of our own kids! Funny how they don't seem to have a problem with "Dyslexia". | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/11/2008 6:01:12 AM | Well put, fox fire.
I wonder why it is that, on the issue of grammar, we're being admonished to look and appreciate other qualities in the person, yet we wouldn't give that leeway with other shortcomings (Can you imagine "Your boyfriend is lazy and ill-tempered." "Yes, but he has the mind of a rocket scientist.").
Um, actually it IS a valid comparison. True, the "basic tools" of SPOKEN language are learned naturally, before school age, but putting ideas to paper (or screen) can be something else entirely. I agree that misspellings and the like are annoying to people like you and I but that's because it's a talent that comes easily to us. Some people don't care to master our language but I wouldn't write them off as inherently stupid. Their talents simply lie elsewhere.
It's not my assertion that bad spellers are stupid. I say that they don't care enough to learn to do better. Learning language is regimented, like any other facet of education, and all it takes is the memorization of the rules and components. If the concept is understood, there isn't much difference between forming the thought in a person's head and speaking it, writing or typing it. Honestly, the ability did not come so easily to me. In my surroundings growing up, there was no pressure to excel. When I discovered that I liked writing, I worked hard at it. It's not what I do for a living but having the skills to write and speak well sure has come in handy - in making a case to get what I want in business dealings and from my municipality. So, far from being dismissive of people who haven't developed the skills, I hope to encourage them not to give up. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/11/2008 7:52:50 AM |
Thanks urinemyway.
I won't even comment on that silly message #740, a waste of effort there, but your point about the sheer laziness and character traits may well be a "red flag" when simple rules of English are completely ignored or excused. Sometimes people don't have a very good educational background for a myriad of reasons and it shows itself quite clearly in the written (and spoken) word. Now that doesn't mean they aren't good people, but it does mean it may limit them in relating to other people with a bit more learning.
People should always be encouraged towards self-improvement. Some people spend thousands of dollars on self-improvement and it surprises me that so many become offended when help is freely given! | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/11/2008 7:55:55 AM | So plz stop being ignorant
Did I miss the memo that said text speak is now a language? I think bad spelling, poor grammar, and the like are much more indicative of ignorance than what your post claims. Text speak, on the other hand, seems to me to be more a matter of laziness or a failed attempt to be cool.
As with Urinemyway, during my growing up years there was no encouragement to excel. That is, none. I grew up believing I was stupid but realized otherwise later on. I enjoy writing also, which is undoubtedly part of the reason I have put effort into my spelling, grammar, and speaking. Oh, and by the way, I grew up being taught that a winder was what one opened to get some fresh air, that a spatular was something you flip a grilled cheese sandwich with, and that phrases such as "well you knowd I would" and "was you gonna go with me?" were normal and acceptable. Yes kids, the Redneck gene pool lives. While I am not dyslexic, I do think that when a child believes they're stupid it can be as significant a barrier to learning as any formally recognized learning disability.
I agree that using dyslexia or anything else as an excuse for not caring enough to do better is a cop out. So is having English as a second language. What does any of that have to do with wanting to improve?
Like Dr. Phil says, "Ya gotta rise above your raisin'!" | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/11/2008 8:16:30 AM | i really thought this thread was about opinions...not about telling people what to do and how to do it...
we are all different...i for one don't sweat the emails....and am the typo queen...it does not mean i am ignorant...most often it means i'm in a hurry and need to partake in the real world (but wanted to stop in to say 'hey')....
for the folks who care about email grammer, typos, etc...go for it...set those boundries...hopefully you'll find what you are looking for...
and for the folks who don't care about that stuff...that is ok too...whatever floats your boat...
and for all those who judge...well, perhaps that floats your boat...i prefer to look at life a little differently...
but then, that's ok too...
rosie. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/11/2008 3:14:44 PM | If someone is too tall or too short, or someone has brown eyes or grey eyes, or someone has big teeth or false teeth etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc, they cant change that by sitting down at the desk and spell checking the protruding nose or emailing their offending body part to a good mate for corrective surgery.
But you can spell check or email your profile for corrective surgery. So why not?
If you recognise that people have difficulties reading and writing, then why it is such a big jump in logic for you to also accept that other people have difficulty in understanding badly written text? I was reading a post in another thread and it took me several re-reads before I understood what was meant. Or at least I think I understood, but because there was a few letters wrong, it changed the whole meaning of the reply. That’s unless the poster meant what was literally written even though it was spelled incorrectly. Confused? Well that’s what happens when the protocols get messed up.
I think any graduate looking for a job that reflects the time and expense expended in obtaining that degree is shooting themselves in both feet and knees if they don’t religiously proof-read every written document they author.
Imagine that if that said graduate was looking for employment in a technical field rather than flipping burgers, would s/he find difficulty in finding an employer who would risk expensive and dangerous or fatal mistakes been made. Someone might incorrectly spell a critical word which results in a $400,000 machine been installed where it became damaged in operation by another machine or by nearby services. An employer might ask if someone cant spell their degree on their CV correctly, can they even perform arithmetic when tolerances required are a few microns.
Take it personally if you do have such a thin skin, but by reminding you of the constant need for excellence I am in fact helping you. I don’t wanna see anyone fail in life. It’s a tough world out there, companies cannot afford accidents. And if you get upset by criticism of your spelling skills, do you really think you could cope with the rough and tumble of real working life?
love and peace
hug someone new today
regards from 40, defender of the faith, the weak and the ridiculous. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/12/2008 12:07:30 PM |
If someone is too tall or too short, or someone has brown eyes or grey eyes, or someone has big teeth or false teeth etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc, they cant change that by sitting down at the desk and spell checking the protruding nose or emailing their offending body part to a good mate for corrective surgery.
But you can spell check or email your profile for corrective surgery. So why not?
It's very simple, really; because they don't care. There's a saying in my field that applies here as well: You can fix "can't", but you can't fix "won't". | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 7/12/2008 3:51:36 PM |
There's a saying in my field that applies here as well: You can fix "can't", but you can't fix "won't".
There's an interesting conundrum here: if you 'can fix "can't"' then you ought to be able to fix 'can't fix "won't"'. Is this a problem of language, logic, or my inability to figure it out?
(None of the above is meant to be taken very seriously, by the way.  ) | |
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