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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/20/2007 9:43:32 PM | I dunno where in blazes women on fish have gotten the idea that just because a guy can be very fluent in the english language that this somehow equates to a DECENT man. I have never seen a study on this but I seriously doubt that exceptional grammar and a good man are intertwined...
I have spoken to numerous guys on fish , from laborers, to pensioners, to lawyers, to technicians ..scads and alot can spell and communicate really well but decency seems to be at a premium and honor and unless I see those two ticket stubs I don't give a rats crapper how well they can spell... if a guy can't walk his talk a guy ain't worth his caulking or his turkey basting equipment .. but those guys who can spell and have excellent grammarical skills I can send them to the punctuation police as they appear to be interested in flesh and good spelling ...
Walkin the line is far more important to me than caulking a line... you can get BS anywhere .. even out of the mouths of the spelling nazis.... oh yah..
ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS OR SPELLTALKTOME ... IN MY****SHUN-ERE-Y | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/20/2007 9:44:52 PM | | i wud haf ta say nah!! Teasing. no I wouldn't write back. i am not perfect always with my typing depends if I'm tired, its late or dark... but if they can't even take the time out to type slow and correctly then I don't want someone who is , no offense, but not very educated... | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 12:55:23 AM |
and pamperpooch... the problems with men your age in Britain and the surrounding UK is that most are alcoholics .... they are pub addicted and alcohol and love do not mix in any dictionary. In Canada the problem is pervasive as well and self medicated unhealthy people make unhealthy loving...
Well thanks for this information, I wasn't aware that this was the reason. Perhaps it's just as well then that I am carefull with who I date, and don't go off with every Tom,****or Harry who can't be bothered to use punctuation because they are all obviously alcoholics. For someone who is supposed to be such a naturally loving person, you can be quite judgemental. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 1:40:00 AM | ^^^^^^^^^^^I think this is the one you're referring to.
fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 1:53:57 AM | | If it's "very" bad, then it is difficult to want to respond. I am educated, and hardly being able to decipher someone's email to you automatically makes you think they are less educated than you, or simply just don't care. One or two mistakes in an entire email, I can overlook that, but worse than third grade, sorry honey, either proofread before hitting send, or move on. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 3:04:02 AM | We've all been guilty of the occasional typo, but anyone who contacts me with bad spelling and no punctuation I wouldn't be interested in.
How can you communicate if you can't get the basics right?
The same goes with people who think it's cool to use dumb skater talk abbreviations or stupid rap talk. 'Sup' means nothing to me when it pops up in an IM box or email. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 3:07:39 AM | pp000, I must be one of those 55 people, because I can read what you wrote without much problem. Yes, I think the first and last letter is what my brain picks out, and the middle was more or less an "educated" guess. The problem is, I am so habitually picking out just the first and last letter that I once misread someone's headline. She said, "Honesty Is The Key", but I read "Horny Is The Key"!!!  | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 3:28:46 AM | | PamperPooch....pretty funny! I was surprised that I read thru that without a problem! lol I think the point is, to the poster who found it so offensive for those of us to be hung up on spelling/grammar/punctuation...its not that we think necessarily that the person is an idiot...lazy would be more like it. At least for me. A little typo here and there isnt what the topic is referring to (at least thats not how I took it). And plus, I think its a personal thing. I have a hard time trying to hold a conversation with people who say things like "yous," "aint gotta/gonna," "hows come," etc. (cant think of the normal ones that drive me nuts...lol) but you get the drift. I find myself losing interest in the conversation VERY quickly... | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 3:47:51 AM |
PamperPooch....pretty funny! I was surprised that I read thru that without a problem! lol I think the point is, to the poster who found it so offensive for those of us to be hung up on spelling/grammar/punctuation...its not that we think necessarily that the person is an idiot...lazy would be more like it. At least for me. A little typo here and there isnt what the topic is referring to (at least thats not how I took it). And plus, I think its a personal thing. I have a hard time trying to hold a conversation with people who say things like "yous," "aint gotta/gonna," "hows come," etc. (cant think of the normal ones that drive me nuts...lol) but you get the drift. I find myself losing interest in the conversation VERY quickly... LOL! misplacedankette, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Yes, it's not a matter of whether or not I could read and understand what was being said. Notice however, that it was only the spelling issue which was addressed. The syntax was still there! (No misplaced modifiers, no fragmented sentences etc.) To those who insinuate that it's judgemental and arrogant to dismiss someone with poor writting skills as less than decent people, you're the ones being judgemental and arrogant. When we say that we find this trait irritating, it means nothing more than that. It's irritating....to us! To some, it's an irritation to hear people talk with a mouth full of food, or snapping gum, or cracking their knuckles, or using profanity every other word, or wearing pants that are 2 inches too short. It has nothing to do with how decent or nice they might be....it has to do with the fact that their personal habits make us uncomfortable. Not all of us are uncomfortable with the SAME things; so how about easing up on those of us who simply have DIFFERENT issues than your own in what makes us cringe. (scraps nails down the chalkboard!!!! ewwwwww take that!) | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 4:04:35 AM | oh please stop the intelligence crap..when I am at work I decipher all the time..I would love to see some of you tell the people I work for /around they are not intelligent because of their spelling!!....omg..yes I do think it is funny!..to each their own of course but intelligence comes in many forms..just saying..try working for Dr's that have more pressing issues than if an i is dotted or their t's crossed..when I come on these forums I really don't care..at work..yes it counts. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 4:15:07 AM | It depends on how really bad it is. If I can't understand what they are writing, I do respond and tell them that. If I can, I will reply but I try not to encourage any further email from them. I received an email today from someone that has an interesting profile, but an off color butterball joke. There was an incorrect word used and the joke is off color, so I haven't quite decided how to respond to that one. I just know that if they can't write so I can understand them and use too much slang etc., I will not be into them. I hate when"i" is used instead of taking the second to press the shift key!
Some postings on here have really made me wonder about our education in schools. There seem to be quite a few people that wouldn't pass my daughter's class. She is in 6th grade. The grammer, the spelling, and the run on....ugh! Yesterday a man couldn't even spell the word Thanksgiving. He spelt it Thankgiveing each time. I really think my kids learnt that in 2nd grade. I wouldn't initiate anything with someone that had such poor English skills. I guess some people don't care that their poor English skills make it difficult for others to understand what they write and reflect that they may be stupid...no not uneducated, they didn't want to learn the skills in school. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 4:20:04 AM | | I think the idea is more of what you get when a person messages you than when you are on forums. I think everyone makes snap judgements of people to some degree by their picture, and what they get from their message (that is not the same as being judgemental and accusing someone of being wrong because they aren't the same as you, just recognising similarities or differences that you personally find attractive or unattractive). The more effort someone puts into a message, the more I probably feel the person is likely to make an effort with a relationship, I may be right sometimes, and sometimes I may not be, but it's the way I feel, and I can't change it, and I don't need to be told I should do. Of course there are people who disagree with this, and they're entitled to their opinion, but when you're narrowing down the field of potential partners, it seems natural to me to be more drawn to people who communicate well (especially over the internet, when that is basically all we really have to go by) | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 4:50:59 AM | Bad grammar is a pet peeve of mine, especially if it comes from a source with a big audience such as a talk show host or a news anchor. The butchery of the English language bugs me. Common mistakes are the use of "try and" instead of "try to", or using "lay" rather than "lie". Another one is "anxious" instead of "eager".
But everyone is prone to making mistakes. I posted a thread once and botched the title. There are those who may have a legitimate reason for mistakes. I for one have dyslexia and I know that kind of mistakes I am likely to make so I rely on spell checkers. I also have a text-to-speech software that I can use as a proof reader. It is easy to miss something and I like to present myself well. I always feel a bit foolish if I make mistakes. For me it is always a bilapossity, I mean a polibissity, uh.. a possibility. Sorry.
But to answer the original question, depending on the severity of the mistakes, I would not write off anyone who sends me a message with some mistakes. If it proves to be a habit I might encourage the sender to clean up the note a bit. If the message is too garbled I might respond to say I don’t understand the message and maybe the sender would try again, in English.
And since I am new to this kind of communication, I’m not really well versed about all the little abbreviations so commonly used on this site. Some I can figure out, others are a mystery and I feel a little too embarrassed to ask what the heck do they mean? But that is just me.
Now, after careful review and crossing my fingers against any mistakes, I think I am ready to post this note. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 4:59:18 AM |
Now, after careful review and crossing my fingers against any mistakes, I think I am ready to post this note.
I get that feeling too but I don't have a spellchecker I can use on the forums. Sometimes after I've posted something and think I've got it perfect I look back in horror. I don't think anyone expects people to be spell perfect, just to make an effort. Even the best spellers out there will probably occasionally make typing errors. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 6:07:25 AM | An occasional typo or misspelled word is fine for forums and casual email - we are human and it happens. I expect a bio. to be near perfect - it should be well thought out and spell check run. No misspellings or grammatical errors with near perfect punctuation (even I screw up with those commas from time to time). I may be a little up tight, I am an English teacher. That said, I'm looking for a relatively smart, together, successful guy and it is highly likely that this type of person is going to take a few minutes to make sure their bio. is not a sloppy mess. I also find text messaging style writing to be annoying. Its fine in a text message but, not when you have a normal keyboard available. No, I didn't spell check this!
Best,
A~ | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 7:30:17 AM |
that is so shallow that a water spider couldn't even swim in it. no doubt the only difference in you and them is, you use spell check and they don't lol
Actually, that isn't the difference. A person can use spell-check and still have a plethora of errors in a missive. Spell-check will not get the nuances or context of words such as "there/their," "you're/your" and so on. Spell-check is a wonderful tool; despite the fact that I spell very well, I use it to catch typos. Also, not everyone has spell-check on his/her web browser. If yours doesn't, I suggest downloading Mozilla Firefox and using it because spell-check is a default.
For those of you who are defending poor typists and ESL people, no need to defend them. Typos and ESL "mistakes" are obvious and easy to differentiate from people who, simply put, cannot spell correctly.
Being able to spell well is not connected to intelligence; it is a talent with which we are born, like a singing voice. There are also learning disabilities, such as dyslexia, that interfere. However, that doesn't mean that someone who is born a poor speller can't improve; smart people find ways to compensate.
To me, people who do not take the time to at least TRY to correct errors just don't give a damn. The attitude of what is said is more important than how it is said loses its point when the meaning is lost to incorrect spelling, syntax, or other grammatical errors.
Of course, I am an English teacher. I read hundreds of essays in a semester. Unfortunately, the quality of writing has gone down in even the seven years I have been teaching college. Netspeak is one culprit, but the attitudes expressed by some of the people in this forum bespeaks the broader problem of apathy.
As for the woman who said she reads the writing of her office mates everyday and has to decipher them--why should you? They should be putting enough time and effort into getting their points across so that it shouldn't be difficult.
There are, indeed, brilliant minds who can't write a letter without errors; too bad that some of them won't get noticed in the shuffle of others who are not so brilliant and, likewise, can't spell. I have a friend whom I met on POF who is dyslexic. He writes his messages in Word, then edits and spell-checks before he sends them.
Too bad other people with spelling problems do not do the same. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 7:45:36 AM | There are many people who learned English as a second language and that may contribute to spelling and / or grammatical errors.
There are also many people who have learning disabilities such as dyslexia and that may contribute to said errors.
There are also people who have always had slight hearing impairment which contributes to their spelling.
There are also people who never finished highschool.
None of these things make a person any less worthy of a response, none of theses things ensure that the person doesnt have a good job or make a decent living .
And CERTAINLY none of these things is an indication of character or what kind of a mate they would be.
All of the above factors apply to my father and he is an amazing man, who had a very good job, who supported my mother and our family to the ends of the earth both financially and emotionally. He has a heart of gold.
He reads and writes English but not too well, he speaks it just as well as many people(with the excepetion of a few misplaced/misused words).. his spelling is an absolute atrocity.
I would never not respond to someone based SOLELY on spelling and grammar. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 7:48:19 AM | | I think you all need to take a step back here and remember, that it doesn’t always mean that a person, is any lower in this world then you are, because of a few spellings and grammar mistakes. Remember they may be dyslexic. With means that its not they fault, plus none of us in this world is perfect, But all play a part in making it go round. You need to be more open minded and not so narrow, about your ideas. In addition, if someone was dyslexic it does not mean they are not able to do anything with their life. I am very well educated and have a very good job, and I have managed it with these as you put it ‘bad spelling and grammar’. | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 7:59:05 AM | | As a teacher, I would cut them a little slack in an e-mail. On their profile I feel they should put their best foot forward. If a person makes errors in both e-mail contact AND in their profile then I would probably not respond. It's your personal choice. I have met articulate, well-rounded men with high school educations and morons with college degrees, too. It's all if how you feel. I guess if you have to ask should you respond then the answer is should be "No". | |
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| If someone emails you with misspelled words and bad grammar, do you respond?
Posted: 11/21/2007 8:04:47 AM | | dear pampered...............who, what , where ,why and when did I say I was a naturally loving person? Nope you got moi confused with someone else... yah you are right I am judgemental, when it comes to mating we should be ..... But punctuation is not the end ah ALL to beat the proverbial wet noodle with .. good speller does not equal good man.... spelling has zero to do with decency... and I would be more captivated by meeting a good and decent man than a good speller guy... | |
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