| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/20/2007 9:48:44 AM |
For centuries, women were considered insatiable sexual creatures, seducing men and robbing them of their potency. If you read such tomes as The Malleus Maleficarum (The Hammer of Witches), it delineates the carnality of women, and witches, in particular. During the Renaissance (and before) it was considered necessary for a woman to orgasm in order to get pregnant--and sex was for procreation--so it was a husband's duty to make sure that she did.
It wasn't until the discovery that the ovaries released eggs that women started being told that we don't like sex. It reached the apex during the Victorian era when women were not allowed to be sexual, or nice women weren't; there were loads of whorehouses in London, more than at any other time in history. Women's public sexuality didn't have a resurgence until the 1960s and the advent of the Pill.
Strangely, it was men who said women were sexual to the point of being predators. It was men who subsequently said women didn't like sex. It was women who started taking back their sexuality.
Sex was thought to drain men, make them weak. The French call the act the "petit morte," the "little death," but that was applied to men, not women. Even masturbation was thought to weaken men.
Fantastic insights! But you forget how much a woman would do for a man. The only limit is how much limit you put on yourself in your mind. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/20/2007 9:51:29 AM | | I've seen one orgasm make women cry, laugh, shake uncontrollably, not be able to stand a single touch, or some combination of those things. It blows my mind, if an orgasm could make me do any of those things I'm sure that my love of sex would increase significantly. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/20/2007 12:17:49 PM |
I like your thoughts....Gwendollyn.....for me I believe it is a power issue......as a male..we are taught to be the leaders and in nature we are...so be it...but women hold a very strong power over us as men so how can we be leaders when we are controlled by our own emotion for women.... I believe males try to minimize that power by putting down female sexuality.....such as the victorian ages......married women the good ones were not suppose to enjoy sex and therefore no power over the man....as for the whorehouses....well when women give it up for money there is no challenge no risk no rejection therefore no power..... looka t these beutiful women who exude sexuality....they will tellyou that guys are afraid toapproach them...most guys would be afraid to be rejected and therefore hurting their power...whichis why guys like sluts over nice girls.....no power no control......
I believe that this is accurate with some men. There was a reply in a thread earlier that quoted a piece about how men did all these horrifying things because of a woman, murder, wars, etc...It was actually quite disturbing how this author tried to justify these vile acts by saying that the man was in love with a woman so he did these things out of jealousy and passion and couldnt control himself.
I think that some men actually fear female sexuality due to how THEY react to someone who they are attracted to and it is much easier to blame her than accept that their behaviour is really the issue. If you look at many organized "religious" beliefs and views on female sexuality you can see how women were restricted in how they were allowed behave based on a predominanty male behaviour issue. The thoughts that women are dirty, they should cover themselves so another male cannot see them, they had to be chaparoned as they couldnt be trusted, they should be hidden when menstruating or not allowed to attend worship, that they should withdrawl from society when pregnant and for many months after childbirth, the list goes on........
I will say that I will never understand how a man's desire for a woman equates to power over him and if she doesnt reciprocate how he wants he accuses her of having this mystical power over him that he is unable to fight. If you dont give someone that power how can they have it? | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/23/2007 4:51:17 PM | It's true most women love sex,,, especial when it's few and far betwen and not just lying there waiting for you to help your self,
I like to help myself....! | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 12:53:38 AM | LP/OP . . I'd appreciate a few references of those that DO . . [I'd like to compare Notes . . !!] Women merely want it at Their own Speed . . which is fine by Me . . I like the Romance and Sensuality .. the build-up to it . . Candle-light . . Wine . . Massage . . Foot-rubs . . Hair-brushing . . Back-scratching . . and Lots of Kissing . . !! . . . . Obviously . . I don't like the 'Macho' type . . But , the Lady I'm looking for . . doesn't _Either_ . . !!! . .  | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 1:50:57 PM | Actually, women don't like just having sex w/ someone. Women want lovemaking and there is a big difference. Romance and seduction will do it for every woman every time!
my .02 cents! | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 2:28:47 PM | Yup - women like sex. Some of us don't mind strange sex (sex with strangers), but a woman who truly values herself won't make it easy for some guy to use her. A lot of us don't mind friends with benefits if the friendship comes first . . . guys tend to just want the benefits. If all I want is an orgasm, I can do that with a lot less fuss, muss and bother.
And what is this preoccupation with cyber sex? If I have to touch myself, what do I need him for?
For the record . . . if two people truly enjoy each other's company and the guy is a sensitive, attentive, and thorough lover, a woman will give him as many foot rubs and back scratches as he likes. At least this one will (and some extra attention as well).
Men have only themselves to blame (historically) for the way women react to their advances. If a woman likes sex and has a number of partners, men consider her to be a slut. If she holds out for just the right guy, she is a prude . . . at least, that is the attitude of my generation. I am glad to see that younger men are a bit more reasonable.
As one of the other posters pointed out, a woman's sexuality has been used against her by religious and social mores. In Saudi Arabia a young woman was raped . . . and she is being punished for it. This is the way westerners acted not so many years ago. The attitude was "she asked for it" because of what she wore or where she went or that she was alone. Is it any wonder that we are cautious? | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 3:21:38 PM | Aligirl, men all too often give that power away,when they are in awe of a beautiful woman,or one who is self confident.
I'm sure all men have had proverbial dry spells, when they couldn't get attention from a woman no matter how hard they tried,when they were lacking in self confidence,the all time best aphrodisiac.Like Jim Morrison said..."when you're strange..."
So when we give up that power,it's our fault,and we miss the opportunity to share the best orgasms possible,simutaneous ones.And damn near as good,helping your partner to enjoy a mind blowing one,which makes me f***ing jealous.
Of course women enjoy it more,their experiences are so much more intense!But reciprocity is such a great thing...
Now if we could just get rid of all the old stereotypes,and quit perpetuating those vicious cycles,religious taboos,secular myths or whatever,and get down (so to speak) to really sharing the pleasure of pleasuring our partners(try saying that three times fast),wouldn't this be a much more fun world to live in?
And to the guy who lasts 2 minutes,and has never seen a woman really enjoy sex,get to a therapist for God's sake! | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 3:36:19 PM | | I am young, but enjoyed this post. Sex is amazing but at least for me i need a caring partner that actually cares if she pleases me as much as i do for her. I had a may-december relationship for a short time but in that time learned that my job was to please the woman and i come second but not every woman remembers to take care of the guy afterward maybe they just aren't used to lasting long or i don't know i am kinda rambling because this is my first post sorry. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 3:39:26 PM |
It's been a long ass time since I paid a womans way. I will if she just doesn't have all that much, but hell, if the girl I was with had a job, she'd be paying her own way.
Wow........What a peach that one is....Yikes | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 4:08:37 PM | 1. Since sex means more to them, they need to hide this since it makes them more vulnerable.
I think they just THINK sex makes them more vulnerable.
I don't think women really want that power, though... not many women are attracted to guys they have total control over.
I'm fairly certain that I couldn't even be attracted to a guy who'd let me control him. So fair assessment.
Actually girls do alot of things for men that pleasure them.
I remember a BF joking that he mostly kisses me to get himself some lip balm since I'm ALWAYS wearing it. He must not have cared that the balm I wore was sparkly, but whatever. When I asked why he didn't buy himself some, he told me that his kids usually borrow it and never give it back... so I bought him some (hoping he'd still kiss me to get some gloss once in awhile).
I listen to what my BFs say and do things for him related to that comment. Which is exactly how I want to be treated. It works.
If you are romancing women as a chore to get laid, you are missing out on the fun.
AMEN to that!
Actually, women don't like just having sex w/ someone. Women want lovemaking and there is a big difference. Romance and seduction will do it for every woman every time!
Honestly.. either one is fine by me. A healthy dose of both is better. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 5:30:36 PM | Pfft.
Of course we love sex. We just have a few more 'societal' rules that inhibit us from being full on all the time with men.
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 5:46:14 PM | WOMEN LIKE SEX MORE!
Really. It's true. Guys just have a higher DRIVE for it. Doesn't mean they enjoy it more. Just that they want it more (generally speaking).
I mean seriously, think about it. That's why you can't get that 'connection'. He doesn't care he's having sex with you. He cares he's HAVING SEX! WOOOO! HE GOT LAID! He's happy even when he knows you got 10x more pleasure out of it than he did. It feeds his ego. Why d'you think some guys are more than happy to spend hours going down on a woman? EGO! SHE ****ING WANTS ME! WOOO! I AM THE BESTEST LUVVUR EVA!
A man falls in love with a woman who *believes* in him. Take a note of that. Men want to be needed. They want to be loved. Just not always for the same reasons you do. You want a connection. He wants to feel good about himself.
Men = ego
Ego! Ego! EGO!
Take any problem you have with a male in your life. Think - "how could this situation affect his ego?" Nine times out of ten. That is it! Men. We're so ****ing simple really.
A guy who ignores you? It's because he has more options. His ego loves having choice. And he loves you chasing because it gives him a sense of POWER!
I'm gonna get so much hate mail for this.
Back to topic. Women like sex more. They are just unfortunate enough to be brought up in a society which, generally speaking, will judge them negatively for promiscuous behaviour. I don't. Dozens of others on these boards won't, because there are some genuinely awesome guys here. (Guys here, you're awesome. I love you all - in a totally straight way ;) ) But some will. Some always will. At the end of the day, the only thing that will ever matter is your ability to judge character. And girls, for some of you, much of the time you suck at this, despite your 'women's intuition'. Peoples always show you who they are. Believe them the first time :)
That's not your ability to disqualify someone at the first hint of a red flag. That's crap. It's your ability to determine the difference between a personality trait, and behaviour brought on by genuine circumstance. Big difference. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 5:52:21 PM |
I'm gonna get so much hate mail for this.
I can't imagine why. An no.. that wasn't sarcasm.
A few people mention society. Why can't we just give society the middle finger? | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 6:04:37 PM | Actually, women don't like just having sex w/ someone. Women want lovemaking and there is a big difference. Romance and seduction will do it for every woman every time!
It ain't that simple.... women want several things. From what I've come to understand it's something like : to be respected as the woman they are, to connect to the soul they belong with, and to be ****ed senseless ;)
I've always though it boils down to how you connect - Connect with heart, body, and soul. And she'll love you. Get any one of the three and you'll get her in bed. Get all three and she's yours for good. Heart (love), body (sex), soul (connect). When all three are yours, you know it will work out.
Like everything in relationships, it's all about balance. You don't need some magic ingredient, you need every ingredient in harmony. There's no shortcut. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 6:19:51 PM | | Errr OPie~ Your profile lists you as not even wanting to date lol~ So my Q is~ wtf are ya ****in about? ~Cher~ | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 6:35:10 PM | Women love love making more than men do. Also women love a man that can last more than 2 minutes lol. I dated a guy who could last 3 hrs. Not straight but with a few 5-10 minute rests inbetween. I had to finally say no more lol. It was out of this world but to much of a good thing is can make one sour lol. And no he does not take viagra.  | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 6:47:05 PM | | i think this is the dumbs thread ive seen everone is different and with some women talking about myself you have to mean something to me before i have sex with you but once i do , watch out baby you can get it anytime you want, and i also like treating my man well. i like to do things for him , just dont demand that i do it | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 7:36:13 PM | Haha, dumbs thread. Obviously, there's a level of comfort and trust that women need from a man, which is depedant on the person. That doesn't take away from the point of the thread.
To whoever made the comment about my profile, no thanks. | |
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 9:35:05 PM | I think relating to this issue, is that men craved sex a lot more than women....
but yes, women could enjoy sex more intensively at the end of courtship.
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| Women Love Sex More Than Men Do Posted: 11/24/2007 9:39:45 PM | Actually, women don't like just having sex w/ someone. Women want lovemaking and there is a big difference. Romance and seduction will do it for every woman every time!
my .02 cents
that's precisely correct without this seduction lovemaking can not be enjoyed as much.
but when we decide to have sex, finally give in totally, it's due to physical attraction with the guy we are going to make love too. I'd like to be feeled desired and most of all not been treated like a sex object either. | |
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