| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 11/21/2007 8:36:39 AM | | some people like sarcasm. online you can find articles to suit anything you would like to believe true... as is the case here. | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 11/21/2007 8:38:40 PM | | A little sarcasm goes a loooooong way with me. It's fun and spicy occasionally, but I would tire of a constant barage of sarcasm. It's nice to count on what a person says being what they mean. | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 11/21/2007 8:55:31 PM | I am considered to be humorous, I only use sarcasm to provoke thought 0n topics that are hard to understand. I am good at it, and there are different types of sarcasm. All of it is not a personal attack. That is deep seated hostility, another form of aggression/anger issues. My motto on the topic is "Don't dish it out if you can't take it". By that I mean, if you pick on me in good natured ways, we are cool. I can take a joke. If you direct personal insults at me, I am quick witted and will "defend" myself on that level, promptly, courteoulsy and efficiently. It is in how you use humor, of course, and it is dependent on the audience, as is everything in life. Good topic for discussion, I am also not seeing my brand of sarcastic humor in the article, yes, I read it ALL. The bar joke was really good, I am more like the guy that would retort "what do you mean $ 500.00?" I also agree with the OP who says if you dont get my humor, I am not with the right person. I too, want to be with someone I can have fun with, and laughter will carry you when most everything else will finish you off when life is bearing down on you. Live, Love LAUGH | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 11/23/2007 11:57:08 AM | z circle snap msg 08
It fuels an already passionate relationship
Yes.. key here is ALREADY passionate ESTABLISHED relationship... ones mate will know the true nature of their mate and will know if this is an aggressive poke or just fun... history is necessary first... timing is everything! :) | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 11/23/2007 12:05:50 PM | I use sarcasm all the time as well, along with making fun of situations, others and myself, all meant as fun.
To many have a hard time with sophisticated banter, sarcasm, and the ability to know when you mean something or just teasing......
Life is to short to give up on your personality and style, and if those around me have a hard time knowing if I mean something or not, then all they have to do is ask. The biggest part about being sarcastic, is the ability to take is as much as you dish it out. If it is always one sided and you give it but can not accept it, then you have the potential to disrupt and hurt another or the relationship.
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 11/24/2007 9:26:01 AM |
"People who use sarcasm don't see themselves as being hurtful, they see themselves as being funny," Katz says. "But recipients tend to interpret their remarks as hurtful."
Great article OP. I think a little bit of sarcasm is o.k but I prefer witty comments over sarcasistic ones. I had an ex boyfriend who I consider was far too sarcastic. His comments were hurtful to me but he really saw himself as being funny. I tried to turn it around on him and say would he find it appropriate to use those same comments with others in a different situation. He just didn't seem to get it. In the end if someone is giving me a lot of love and affection I can handle a little boot of sarcasm but if the sarcasm begins to outweigh the love that's just not cool. | |
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| Awesome Posted: 11/24/2007 12:53:18 PM | Thanks Everyone! Love the thoughts shared here!
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| Awesome Posted: 11/24/2007 4:49:27 PM | | First, I know at times I can be sarcastic and at times it is funny. However, when scarcasiam becomes the only way someone can communicate, it is not longer funny. I always feel that people who feel the need to be continually sarcastic are afraid to feel anything and for me that would be a very sad way to live. | |
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EyeDye
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 11/24/2007 5:41:16 PM |
If there's such a thing as a congenital smart aleck, Rachel Mosteller is it. The 27-year-old Houston journalist has been ready with a well-timed barb since her elementary-school years. "I made my first quip when I was about 10. My parents were getting divorced right around my birthday, and I said, 'Well, isn't that a great present,'" she recalls. "That made my mom pretty mad."
Mosteller has continued to hone her sensibility ever since. "I tend to use it when I think people are taking themselves too seriously," she says.
Certified wisecrackers may see their snarky remarks as clever diversions, but because the distinction between a joke and an insult can be nebulous, they can easily damage relationships and careers with their one-liners. Frustrated by her company's practice of feting model employees with Hallmark-style gifts, Mosteller posted a send-up of the policy on her blog, The Sarcastic Journalist, in 2005. "You go and do something spectacular (most likely, you're doing your JOB) and someone says, 'Why golly, that was spectacular.' Then they bring you chocolate and some balloons," she wrote. Though she never disclosed her real name or the company's, higher-ups got wind of the post and she was promptly fired.
So why do wisecrackers keep their bons mots coming at the risk of alienating others? Though they may not be aware of it, sarcasm is their means of indirectly expressing aggression toward others and insecurity about themselves. Wrapping their thoughts in a joke shields them from the vulnerability that comes with directly putting one's opinions out there. "Sarcastic people protect themselves by only letting the world see a superficial part of who they are," says Steven Stosny, a Washington, D.C.-based therapist and anger specialist. "They're very into impression management."
Because humor and hostility often come mixed together, it can be difficult to pinpoint a wisecracker's primary intent. "Sometimes sarcasm is humor—purely a Don Rickles kind of joking—and sometimes it's just innocently insensitive," Stosny says. "But other times, it's devaluing." Everyone benefits from a wisecracker's comic relief, but if you are the target of regular swipes, it's best to assertively call the joker out. His hilariousness doesn't give him the right to belittle you.
Genesis of the Jibe "Just blurting out an insult is pedestrian at best," says Vacheh Joakim, an IT specialist in Los Angeles who prides himself on his sardonic wit. "But a sarcastic jab that can masquerade as a compliment is much more enjoyable, and it also gives the person being sarcastic a sense of superiority." Though Stosny and others theorize that such verbal jujitsu is rooted in insecurity, wisecrackers themselves, predictably enough, tend to admit feelings of inadequacy only indirectly. Joakim, for example, acknowledges the possibility of using sarcasm to compensate for shortcomings, but sidesteps a personal revelation: "Sarcasm doesn't help satisfy a Napoleon complex, but it does give you a little ego boost."
Albert Katz, a cognitive psychologist at the University of Western Ontario , has recently looked at the wisecrackers' focus on one-upsmanship from a biological perspective, showing that people whose brains are best equipped to understand sarcasm tend to have aggressive personalities. Subjects who scored high on aggression tests showed different patterns of brain activity in response to sarcasm than those who did not. The differences suggest that the aggressive subjects were processing nonliteral meaning more quickly. "Sarcasm is definitely a dominance thing—it's related to being top dog," Katz says, both for initiators of sarcastic banter and those who catch on and offer a retort.
A knack for sarcasm isn't necessarily linked to intelligence, says Simone Shamay-Tsoory, a neurologist at the University of Haifa in Israel. Some highly intelligent people who have autism or Asperger's syndrome, for example, may fail to understand jokes and sarcasm. But her research has shown that people who are particularly good at detecting sarcasm also tend to be better at identifying emotional facial expressions. They seem to understand social situations better overall, she says.
Such superior social intelligence may be behind Joakim's conclusion that those who can hang with sarcasm are always the most interesting conversation partners at a party.
Sarcasm's Slippery Slope Everyone wants a witty partner, but sarcasm can sabotage relationships. Psychologist John Gottman has found that if partners display contempt toward each other—which commonly includes making sarcastic remarks—their odds of divorce rise dramatically. "People who use sarcasm don't see themselves as being hurtful, they see themselves as being funny," Katz says. "But recipients tend to interpret their remarks as hurtful."
"People are constantly getting mad at me," Mosteller says. "One time, this other mother was talking about how her kid's illness was being transmitted to the rest of the family. I said, 'Well, that's why I refuse to give my kids any kind of physical affection when they're sick. I just lock them in a room.' She thought I was serious and gave me this look. I thought, 'There goes a potential playdate.'"
Still, with a little discretion, a sarcastic bent can be channeled in positive directions—standard-bearers include Stephen Colbert and the creators of The Simpsons. Over the past two years, Mosteller has bounced back from her firing and carved out a freelance niche for her writing. Though she has trouble finding friends who appreciate her facetious approach to life, her family is more attuned to her wavelength than they used to be. "When I told them I was doing this article, one of them deadpanned, 'Great. Make us proud.'"
When to Take The Edge Off Yes, you're sharp. But are you cutting too deep? Here's how to ensure people don't take what you say the wrong way.
Know your audience. People have as wide a range of tolerance for sarcasm as they do for liquor. "If the person at the receiving end of sarcasm knows it's meant as a joke, the reaction may be more positive," Joakim says. "But I try not to be sarcastic with total strangers. That's usually not pretty."
Scan before you send. It's best to avoid snarkiness in e-mails and text messages. Sarcasm is highly dependent on tone, while people tend to take typed notes more literally. As silly as those smiley-face emoticons are, use one if there is any possibility that your message could be misinterpreted.
Examine your motivations. Some people resort to over-the-top sarcasm in an attempt to shore up their own self-image. Consider whether you yourself harbor feelings of inadequacy. Once you feel comfortable with who you are, you won't need to hide behind a veil of sarcasm.
Err on the side of caution. If you're unsure how the target of your statement will respond, it's best not to unleash sarcasm at all, as Mosteller has learned. "If I'm around my husband's boss, I hold my tongue," she says. "I know that once I open my mouth, things are just going to keep coming."
I was going to read this whole post (really) but I got 1/3rd of the way through and got bored (too much talky talky). But something DID catch my eye...
Mosteller has continued to hone her sensibility ever since. "I tend to use it when I think people are taking themselves too seriously," she says.
See, there is the problem, molesters never get far in life.  | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 11/25/2007 2:23:33 PM | Pretty much every womans profile says she wants a man with a GSOH.
This is seriously untrue. I often send a joke as an icebreaker and 9 times out of 10 get a snide remark back !
Woman take jokes as put downs, they have no sense of humour. | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 4:50:33 PM |
I often send a joke as an icebreaker and 9 times out of 10 get a snide remark back!
Hey dude, at least you are getting a reply back! Use it as another teasing point to engage her with, maybe she's just trying to be funny with you too! | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 5:11:11 PM |
Woman take jokes as put downs, they have no sense of humour.
I'm forced to agree. I've yet to meet any female friends who can take a joke in stride.
Then again, my jokes are offensive. | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 5:15:09 PM | some people throw out insults and call it sarcasm. People like this give sarcasm a bad name.
My gf and I are sarcastic to one another all the time - its great! Its fun, playful, and doesn't hurt each other's feelings. Not everyone appreciates that kind of humor but we don't worry ourselves over anal-retentive fuddy duddy's like that  | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 5:24:41 PM | The article is on point.
Constant use of sarcastic barbs is nothing but insecurity. Children play games; men and women have the courage, or discretion, to say, or not to say, what's on your mind. | |
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EyeDye
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 5:26:50 PM |
Article follows: Blah Blah Blah
Yea, buddy. Believe everything you read. Sarcasm is evil. There is no way two people with the same mindset would ever be compatible because of this... | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 5:42:13 PM | "Sarcasm is not humor and by it's very definition, is designed to hurt! It's really pretty ugly and I know few nice or truly happy people who use it regularly (think my profile even says that!) It literally means to cut, or to rip (as in flesh!), a very ugly origin and likely so to adequately describe it."
Yeppers. Sarca ... to tear flesh. Yes, hurtful . I guess some people like having their souls ripped and ripping right back. They are right when they say if I don't like it I wouldn't make a good partner. There are several cruel comics that I turn off. Not my kind of funny.
S'ok. I bet there are others who don't like my kind of humor either.
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 5:45:47 PM | "send a joke as an icebreaker and 9 times out of 10 get a snide remark back !"
I'm not into snide remarks but I'd seriously start checking around to see if my jokes are GSOH quality. Obviously from this thread we can see that some of us consider sarcasm funny and some of us don't. So, GSOH must be an awfully subjective term. | |
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EyeDye
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 5:51:12 PM | You can either take a joke or you can't. Pretty simple, I think...Life is far too short to be serious ALL the time. | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 10:39:22 PM | The article is on point. A very intelligent & sarcastic woman I know once told me that "we are different people to everyone we encounter.."...... With this in mind how accurate can any group study be?... 
Constant use of sarcastic barbs is nothing but insecurity. I am of the opinion that it's not the ones that arn't afraid to speak their minds, or say what they feel needs to be said that are the insecure ones....but rather the ones that don't want to hear what is being said to them, or don't understand what was said to them, that have the insecurity issues!!!.................................. | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 10:51:35 PM | I love sarcasm when it's done properly and appropriately. There's an art to it. My closest friends are the biggest sarcastic little sh*ts in the world, but they also know when to put it away and be serious.
It's a balance.
If i'm not with some oversensitive clueless dimbulb who can't appreciate a little sarcasm... then i'm probably in a rather interesting & spicy relationship.
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/11/2007 11:05:55 PM | Very interesting thread. Someone said, a few years ago, that the next World War after the next one would be fought with sticks and stones.
IMO the next one to the last one is already being fought with words, mightier than swords. And as there are many kinds of swords, there are also many kinds of "word weapons". One has to learn at least the defensive part of the use of each word weapon, IMO. It is as important as knowing how to use swords in the Ancient Times.
Many people like to play with guns, many, more, like to play with words too. But they are equally dangerous.
Sarcasm is such a weapon. It can be put to positive/peaceful uses, but so can nuclear power. | |
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| Sarcasm is Damaging to Relationships Posted: 12/12/2007 7:33:47 AM | problem with sarcasm is that in the end people dont know when youre kidding and when youre not. SARCASM AND INTEGRITY MAKE POOR BEDFELLOWS,i just nmade that up so quote me liberally | |
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