| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being ove Posted: 11/21/2007 12:44:10 PM | I tend to think that the PC police would want everyone else to PC, but not themselves.
When it comes to who a person wishes to be with, and dancing can be somewhat an intimate experience, it is personal preference.
Reminds me of the shows like bachelor where after 1 day a girl may be dismissed from the show and is broken hearted. She thinks that if only, but you can't change the program in a person. | |
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being ove Posted: 11/21/2007 12:45:32 PM |
To me it's not about being Hypocritical, It's more about being able to relate to the other person because(you have walked a mile in their shoe) and would never want to disregard them solely based on weight knowing yourself how such rejections feels.
Dr. J, just because I can relate to that other person doesn't mean I can change my inborn preferences. If I didn't find men with large noses attractive, would you expect me to choose one anyway just because my nose is itself no petite little thing? I can relate to women really, really well, as well as understand the discrimination they've faced--but I instantly disregard them as a choice for a mate...
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being ove Posted: 11/21/2007 1:16:13 PM | "Dr.J just because i can relate to that other person doesn't mean i can change my inborn preferences. If i didn't find men with large noses attractive, would you expect me to choose one anyway just because my nose is itself no petite little thing?"
You're arguing Apples and oranges here. You having a big nose is not a choice, it's something you were born with. A big person had a choice not to be big by not eating and picking up a salad every now and then. How can they then thing it's ok to reject another gluttonous person solely based on gluttony? It's ludacris. | |
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being ove Posted: 11/21/2007 1:25:29 PM | Careful Dr. J, you're about to be roasted alive on here for the presupposition that all overweight people had a choice...
A big person had a choice not to be big by eating and picking up a salad every now and then. How can they then thing it's ok to reject another gluttonous person solely based on gluttony? It's ludacris. Believe me I've tried posting something similar to that in the past and I give it about five more minutes before the POF obesity mob shows up with torches and pitchforks... 
I concur that the MAJORITY of overweight/obese North Americans can attribute their excess to an increasingly sedentary lifestyle coupled with stress and poor eating/exercise habits. However some are legitimately screwed from Day One.
Now on to the topic at hand, I do believe it is hypocritical, and people need a staunch reality check. "If you walk the walk, then you can talk the talk, otherwise sit down and shut the heck up" is my motto as far as fitness preferences are concerned 
I train 6 days a week for a total of 10-14 hours. I've earned my pecs and muscle tone, and hence I don't consider it hypocritical of me to expect to date a fit partner because I AM FIT by any medical standard you care to throw at me. However when I was a fatter guy in my teens, I too was guilty of "shooting for the moon" as far as chasing attractive ladies was concerned, but I was never so NAIVE as to assume they'd be interested in me physically, hence why I decided to change my lifestyle and strive towards the popular conception of male beauty - lean & toned.
It's been 10 years since I've made the switch and it works! For those dissatisfied overweight folks out there, I suggest you find the inner determination necessary to succeed and do the same! 
Then if you STILL can't find what you want, complain about it in a thread...  | |
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being ove Posted: 11/21/2007 1:58:06 PM |
You're arguing Apples and oranges here. You having a big nose is not a choice, it's something you were born with. A big person had a choice not to be big by not eating and picking up a salad every now and then. How can they then thing it's ok to reject another gluttonous person solely based on gluttony? It's ludacris.
No, I'm arguing PREFERENCES--which perhaps some of us can change if we work at it, but most of us don't consider it important enough to try--and ATTRACTION. If I prefer not to be with people with green eyes, yes, I can probably adjust my mindset to let the green-eyed crowd in, but why should I have to or want to? Just because my eyes are the same color? To me, THAT is ludicrous, and so is expecting that someone who is obese will automatically be attracted to another person who is obese.
And I could always have a nose job...but its size doesn't bother me. I could lose even more weight, and probably will, but the fact that there are many men who won't consider me at this size doesn't bother me either. There are many men who won't consider me no matter what weight I am. To me, that's not personal, nor is it discrimination; it's their PREFERENCE.
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being overweight? Posted: 11/21/2007 2:00:58 PM | I stand by what i said earlier..... When my friend gets his fat butt up off the couch and hits the gym on a regular basic, Then he can start rejecting women solely based on their weight. If he is a recovering fat person, he can then use a person not doing anything about their weight as a reason for rejection. Until then his "preference" card should be revoked. Like another poster said earlier "how can you expect from others(fitness) what you are not willing to deliver yourself.
An alcoholic that's recovering in AA has a right not to want to date a persons that's drinking, But a non recovering Alcoholic does not have that right in my opinion. | |
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being ove Posted: 11/21/2007 2:08:20 PM | Of course he has a right to do it. That doesn't make him not an idiot.
The fact that seems to get overlooked here is the unspoken assumption. All too many people, and I think women are more guilty than men, say they are interested in what a person is really like inside and not mere appearance. They may even believe it when they say it, but it just isn't true. A professor of humanities who has won the National Book Award and is a famous humanitiarian will sleep alone if he has a spare tire around his waist. Some NASCAR moron with a six pack torso and a Harley will have 16 women waiting to get in bed with him because they find him "beautiful inside" and "spiritual". And all 16 will complain about how shallow men are. | |
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being overweight? Posted: 11/21/2007 2:10:21 PM | I have a male friend that is and does the exact same thing!!!!!! I yell at him all the time to A) cut it out and B) to update his pics so that they can see the real person......
He doesnt listen, he hasnt changed his pic, BUT I will give the devil his due and tell you he changed his profile to what ever it is the guys pic to say BBW .. ( BBM) although that just sounds like a Big Bowel Movement!! lol
Happy Thanks Giving!! And remember.... NONE of the calories consumed tomorrow COUNT!!! So eat drink and be merry!!!!!!
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being ove Posted: 11/21/2007 4:11:32 PM | of course people have the right to be selective thats human nature, whats delusional is when someone is overweight and judges another person for being overweight, yet the same person if he/she was judged for being overweight would say the person who rejected them was "shallow" or what ever the buzz phrase of the week is.
I think the OP friend is a hypocrite, and should be ashamed of him self for acting like a ass, I would love to see his face when a " hottie"rejects his ass for being a fat selfish prick. | |
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| Is it ok for a overweight person to reject another overweight person, solely based on them being ove Posted: 11/21/2007 5:39:22 PM | "I think the Op friend is a hypocrite, and should be ashamed of himself for acting like an ass."
I tend to fall in line with this line of thinking when it comes to this subject.
The funny thing is, when we are doing it to someone we call it "preference", But when it's being done to us we like to scream "Shallow".
"So, along the same lines, I have brown hair, So i can only date people with brown hair"
You can and should be able to date anyone you want, that's not what this thread is about. But you must see just how silly it is if you started rejecting everyone with brown hair, solely based on the colour of their hair. | |
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