JWA
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/4/2008 5:57:40 PM | 02/09/08 Budwesier Shootout Daytona International Speedway
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naeco
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/4/2008 6:19:37 PM |
I have seen, in many profiles (men and women), where people say if you are a NASCAR fan then "move on", "next", "pass me by".......that sort of thing.
I've looked at a lot of women's profiles, and I've never seen anything like that written. In fact, many of the ones I've seen say that THEY are into Nascar. | |
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/5/2008 11:22:56 AM | | The stigma of being a NASCAR fan is that of a beer swilling, pot bellied tank top wearing member of the murky end of the gene pool. Sadly, NASCAR does little to dispel that perception. Further, many see the simplistic form of NASCAR as that, very simple. The technology is way behind the rest of the racing world, as is the safety. There is a faction of motorsports fans that dislike NASCAR because of the above. I understand it, but do not like NASCAR. I was a casual observer until Earnhardt was killed and NASCAR blamed the seat belt manufacturer instead of acknowledging they erred in establishing stricter guidelines. The circus environment is tantamount to professional wrestling. We got the good guy vs the bad guy, pit lane fights, and really poor communication skills by the drivers and crews. To a casual observer, it seems too prepackaged, too contrived. Finally, the archaic design of the cars and engines. They are using the same basic design they did when they went to a tube designed chassis. The push rod, carberated V8 is technology held over from the 50s. That only further perpetuates the notion of how simple this sport is. | |
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JWA
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/5/2008 4:57:28 PM |
The stigma of being a NASCAR fan is that of a beer swilling, pot bellied tank top wearing member of the murky end of the gene pool. Sadly, NASCAR does little to dispel that perception. Further, many see the simplistic form of NASCAR as that, very simple. The technology is way behind the rest of the racing world, as is the safety. There is a faction of motorsports fans that dislike NASCAR because of the above.I understand it, but do not like NASCAR. I was a casual observer until Earnhardt was killed and NASCAR blamed the seat belt manufacturer instead of acknowledging they erred in establishing stricter guidelines. The circus environment is tantamount to professional wrestling. We got the good guy vs the bad guy, pit lane fights, and really poor communication skills by the drivers and crews. To a casual observer, it seems too prepackaged, too contrived. Finally, the archaic design of the cars and engines. They are using the same basic design they did when they went to a tube designed chassis. The push rod, carberated V8 is technology held over from the 50s. That only further perpetuates the notion of how simple this sport is.
I added the bold highlights in order to say respectfully BS!! You simply can NOT understand anything about NASCAR and still make this stupid comments.
Let’s consider any of the other major sport as to their origins, their earlier history, their rising success and huge popularity among the general population first. There is not one single major professional sport that also does not resemble NASCAR in some aspect. No offense to our Canadian friends but lets look at hockey as an example---isn’t it akin to nothing more than a street brawl on skates? I don’t understand the game, I don’t like it but I’m not going to start picking it apart. I just don’t watch it nor attend any of our local teams games---seems simple enough to me.
The technology is indeed from the 1960’s but only in the sense of the cars design and configuration. From the front mounted engine to the live third member differential they are just like the 1965 Ford Fairlanes so much of the current car design is derived from. So what? Compare the Indy car circuit and see how wonderful expensive and overly complex technology affects that participation regarding the number of teams that compete at each event. Every NASCAR event will have a few teams that do not qualify based upon performance yet each event has a full field of 43 cars. Indy car event these days seem to be nothing more that a “run what ya brung.....” thing regardless how well the team or car performs. Most events are LUCKY to have 22 or so cars----there is no one sent home.
Yes Indy cars have cutting edge materials and computer controlled systems but let one bit of moisture creep into that ultra expensive equipment and watch the cars refuse to start or cannot keep pace with the field. Personally I’d rather see a full field of cars vying for the win instead of the winner simply being the one car with the least amount of problems. Yes NASCAR vehicles might appear crude and antique but anyone who truly follows it knows that is far, far from the truth. It’s amazing someone can equate “simple” with boring or uninteresting. This is just another example of a complete lack of understanding NASCAR at all.
Watching a NASCAR event and listening the very well educated and articulate participants will immediately dispel the foolish notion of “bad communication skills” suggested here. I always find it hilarious so many try to divide NASCAR into a hillbilly sport and set it far behind any other form of motorsports. There are just as many hot headed fools in any motorsport and that’s for one reason---they’re ALL competitive and simply do not like losing. Yes there is rivalry between teams and there are eruptions of temper but its due to the high emotions such successful competitors have---that burning desire to win. Just today I was watching a college basketball game and saw both teams engage in a brawl. One player deliberately fouled another and the shit was on------is that also seen in NASCAR? How about any other sport?
Sadly so much of what made NASCAR the huge popular spectator sport it is must change for a number of reasons. It is one of the most lucrative organizations on earth and we seen how Formula 1 AND Indy car standouts are now migrating to NASCAR! Juan Pablo Montoya,his wife and family were overwhelmingly surprised by the outpouring of camaraderie and welcome they received when he became a full time driver. In the other forms of racing the drivers and especially their families never associated or socialize with one another but in NASCAR it really is like a big extended family. What appear to be bitter rivals ON the track are sometimes the best of friends once the race is over. The wives have several organizations and charities they can participate in to the benefit of others. Their kids all play together and sometimes become drivers or team mates and remain close for very long periods of time.
The notion NASCAR is any more contrived or “packaged” in order to raise interest by exaggerating rivalries is no different than any other type of hyperbole. The crap coming from the marketing and promotional machinery of any sport team or sanctioning body is just how they get and maintain a healthy fan base----is that so bad? How about that ultra boring and overly hyped Super Bowl? That’s a pageant the Romans would envy yet somehow that’s not pandering upon something completely fabricated and essentially meaningless in the larger scheme of things. Somehow that seems to have been overlooked here.
Regarding Dale Earnhardt’s accident and death NASCAR did NOT suddenly begin to take safety any more seriously than it has since the early 60’s. Every year and even from week-to-week there have been rule changes which affect nothing but safety for the drivers, the crews and the fans in the stands. Of course this is always undertaken with it’s affect on the competitive aspect of the race but NEVER EVER is safety sacrificed. Naming a few: pit road speed limits, mandatory fire suits for EVERYONE in the pits, HANS devices, aerodynamic enhancements to reduce cars flipping over during a crash, the massive infield care centers, on-site doctors and full medical staffs alone with helicopter MedEvac units standing by at EVERY sanctioned event (practice, qualifying, etc...) and this list goes on and on. Dale’s death may have brought massive media coverage otherwise not possible but then again the general public loves a great tragedy so this was the perfect “story” to raise viewership. We can never be certain the safety belts were NOT at fault but I do believe that issues was resolved and Simpson Safety Equipment was fully exonerated shortly afterwards.
I guess no matter what sport we enjoy there are at least an equal number who can and will find something wrong with it. They have their “facts and figures” in support but as with this post quoted above it’s mostly opinion and nothing more. Were any of it informed or knowledgeable opinion that would be fine------when it’s not it becomes silly and funny if not just plain pathetic.
There will always be NASCAR haters and NASCAR lovers----just as with any other sport. We who love it tend to not worry about those who don’t. After all, to really understand it is to fully appreciate it---which the above post simply failed to do on nearly every point he tried forwarding. | |
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/5/2008 5:24:58 PM | Bullie.........marry me...... .....am a Matt Kenseth..... fan myself... .....but you can have the boogity boogity...... ........Going through NASCAR withdrawl...can't wait till 02.17.08.....
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/5/2008 5:28:53 PM | The way i see it.... The seat belt issue was in no way resposible for his death. Earnhardt's car slammed into the wall head on at a rate close to 200 mph. Over the years and being involved in numerous accidents that could have killed anybody at any time, took a toll on his body. The force of the impact, and the fact his seat belt did stop the forward momentum of his body, but his head was still travelling forward at close to 200 mph which resulted in the fatal injury. Had he been wearing the HANS device (which became mandatory shortly thereafter) and/or the helmet tether, he may have survived. I wasn't a big fan of his, but I did feel his loss.
As for the OP's original question.... could the same be true by asking if you would date someone who watches daytime soap operas??? I don't think it matters either way. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 5:44:29 PM | | MY NEPHEW RACES HIS HINEE OFF"" \Would you date aNASCARguy? how about a GAL??????How do you get there from nottin?????? We race WoO a 410 Motor to a 360.and in an off time karts....... my pic's tell that.......sprint AND KARTS...... Tony Stewart is part owner of Eldora speedway.......Casey Kahne was a sprinter. Just found out nascar has come into town and is looking at my nephew to race pro WOOOOOP HOOPOPOPPPPP ......... i go each week end to watch him well here is my Nasca ADVISE.... we will be racing next may like drags too. Meloni Troxill rocks....... and Danica too not into indy much.... but hey ..l i do know my racin............ | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 5:51:51 PM | Im in lust with Tony Stewart!!....
OK..I said it!!
Not only cause he is a hottie..but because He can drive anything!!..His passion for the sport of racing is incredible, and you can see that when he is interviewing.
I feel the same with Ken Schrader..but he isnt as hot as Tony is..(grins)
I would love to see him (Tony) in a World of Outlaw car instead of just being a team owner...Until He does that again and I can watch him race..I have to stay a Kinser fan...I am thrill that the JR Kinser will be part of Tony's team..so I guess that makes it all ok.
 Tony
Oh yeah!..back on topic..I think I would date a race fan!!! | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 6:28:04 PM | I am not a NASCAR fan, but it was interesting to read Sturdavint's anti-NASCAR post as well as JWA's detailed and passionate defense of it. I don't like hockey either, but I would happily watch a hockey match or a NASCAR event with a friend who enjoys them. That's what friends do. I have a friend who has been like a father to me who is a major NASCAR and football fan and sometimes watches both at the same time. He is retired now and was on SS disability for years before that. His wife had never been a big sports fan, but in the last 10 years she made the effort to share his interest of NASCAR and football and now she is probably more of a passionate and vocal fan than he is (you should hear her yell at the tv).
Would I date a NASCAR fan? Well now, yes. It was one thing for me to watch with my good friends of over 30 years, but for a woman I had just met it probably would not be a plus for her in my eyes. That is until I met a woman a year ago who is a friend (and friends are all we will ever and always be, but what more could I ask?).
She's a huge NASCAR fan (loves Jeff Gordon), a huge country music fan (let's say, I am not), and to top it off she is a smoker (I am not and although I am not a rabid antismoker type, I do tend to look upon it as a weakness). Oops, actually, to top it off she can swear like a sailor and I've never cared for that in a woman before.
In a year she has brought me around to being more open minded about the racing and the music in particular, but it applies to other areas as well. Sure, she smokes, but smoking is something she does and it does not define her as a person. Damn, you can teach an old dog new tricks and I had always considered myself to be open minded and nonjudgmental. I am a better person now thanks to her ( and no, she is not drop dead gorgeous or exceedingly sexy, but she is pretty and has a good heart).
So you had better bet I would date a NASCAR fan. | |
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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:43:51 PM |
I added the bold highlights in order to say respectfully BS!! You simply can NOT understand anything about NASCAR and still make this stupid comments.
Where did I say I understood? I only detailed why some dislike NASCAR and some of the problems I have with it. Don't take it personally if someone else does not see it the same way as you. You only perpetuate the narrow minded perspective of NASCAR fans by going in this diatribe accusing me of making stupid comments.
You can't compare open wheel racing to sedan racing for technology. Your assessment that these open wheel racers are troublesome mechanical nightmares is untrue and unfair. They actually race in the rain....Something NASCAR won't do. Hell, in F1, they have to use the same engine for two races.......Quite a feat considering they run the motors two plus hours at 18 to 19 thousand RPMs.......Yeah, the motors alone cost the same as a complete NASCAR, but they are reliable, contrary to your remarks.
As far as the safety issue, you are way off the mark. Bill Simpson (and close frend of Earnhardt) notifed NASCAR, and Earnhardt himself that the seatbelts were being threaded wrong....As far back as the early 90s. I know this because my brother raced and we received notice that the belts, per the rule book were threaded incorrectly. It was my job to re-thread the belts before he could race(we were notified 20 minutes before the race). This was 1994, years before NASCAR had to experience a death to make change. NASCAR was the last major sanctioning body to require a speed limit on pit road, fire suits and helmets for crew and the HANS device. Each year they show up at Daytona and Talladega with the restrictor plates, in a comical attempt at safety by slowing the cars, yet each race has the "big one".....The multi car pile up that reduces the field by half and creates a dangerous situation for drivers, crew and safety workers. Each year this happens, yet NASCAR will do NOTHING to change it. Don't tell me safety is not sacrificed. I gave numerous examples of how they do sacrifice safety.
My remarks were not intended to be personal, however you seemed to take then personal. Please don't. If you enjoy NASCAR, great. Not everyone does, I was just pointing out some reasons why some don't. I also pointed out some misconceptions you broached in regards to safety. I've been deeply involved in motor sports for years, so I am confident in what I say, from experience is not hyperbole. | |
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JWA
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Joined: 5/21/2005
Msg: 141 | |
| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/6/2008 4:11:23 PM |
I understand it, but do not like NASCAR
Ahh I must have misquoted you then...........
[qutoe] You only perpetuate the narrow minded perspective of NASCAR fans by going in this diatribe accusing me of making stupid comments.
Just as you cite various deficiencies from your point of view I simply followed suit. You point out what’s “wrong”---I point out what’s right. Sadly I personally think your comments were foolish and show you don’t know as much as you claim. I don’t speak for nor represent all NASCAR fans and if I alone can sway anyone against it then they’re not that smart either. Most people choose to decide for themselves----not the comments of a few.
This was 1994, years before NASCAR had to experience a death to make change. NASCAR was the last major sanctioning body to require a speed limit on pit road, fire suits and helmets for crew and the HANS device.
It’s the rare sanctioning body that is proactive in establishing any rules and for the most part it can be said they all are simply playing catch up with how their own form of racing evolves or changes. Please don’t start on the imaginary superiority of open wheel to sedan since that’s not a point at all. They’re different---simple as that!
Each year they show up at Daytona and Talladega with the restrictor plates, in a comical attempt at safety by slowing the cars, yet each race has the "big one".....The multi car pile up that reduces the field by half and creates a dangerous situation for drivers, crew and safety workers.
If you’re all that deeply involved over the years in motorsports you know—or should—the “big one” is a direct result of restrictor plates. NASCAR has always been about close quarter door-to-door racing where bumping and banging into one another is part of the action. You would also know since 1978 when the 358 cid engines were mandated clever engine builders have continued wringing out enough horsepower to push a 3400 pound vehicle over the 200mph mark with ease. The only known solution is the restrictor plates for the time being.
Each year this happens, yet NASCAR will do NOTHING to change it. Don't tell me safety is not sacrificed. I gave numerous examples of how they do sacrifice safety.
Complete and utter BS!! You can take any fact and twist it to suit your own purposes---it doesn’t prove a thing however. We can all be experts after the fact, claim we just KNEW it would happen but we’re still second guessing. Yes the “big one” is a concern but were the restrictor plates at selected tracks removed average speeds would increase to 240+ mph----then we’d have cars climbing the fences and killing hundreds of spectators. Are restrictor plates the only or best solution---NO!! However it is something and hardly suggests safety is being compromise or sacrificed.
As a side note its interesting that to my knowledge the NHRA is the only sanctioning body to require on-board fire suppression equipment yet fire is always a threat to any driver who drives from an enclosed or confined****it. Does that mean they’re the only ones concerned with this safety concern?
Racing in any form is dangerous so the only way to eliminate the dangers is to just not race. Those who participate in any sport are or should be fully aware of its inherent dangers and make their choices accordingly. People are injured everyday doing mundane, boring things they’re forced to do making a living. Nearly every race team member deplores the idea of severe injuries to anyone yet they still participate. It’s not as though they’re not aware of the dangers and most would tell you given a choice, to them, the risks are worth the rewards!
We both can rant on but the fact is there’s not like racing in any form!
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Posted: 1/6/2008 5:08:00 PM | Your comprehension skills are lacking. My remark regarding the "big one" was about restrictor plates. NASCAR's solution to the ever increasing speeds was to choke the motor down, forcing all cars to go balls out for 500 miles. When something bad happens, no one dares lift in fear of losing multiple positions, subsequently exasperating the large pile up. A simple solution would be to reduce the tire size and adhesion available. This would force the competitors to slow down going in to the turns, but still allowing them to accelerate back to speed if there was a incident. The way it is now, they close their eyes and stay on the throttle. Restrictor plates have ruined the race. It's only worth watching the last two laps.
Also, back to being proactive. None of the other sanctioning bodies were proactive in regards to the seat belt issue. It was an incident and an SCCA event that brought to light competitors were threading their seat belts wrong. This was, as I said in the early 90sm and all the sanctioning bodies were put on alert. Bill Simpson himself notified the France family and well as Helton about the dangers. He also repeatedly told Earnhardt of the problem and Earnhardt refused to take action. Never in this debate did I state open wheel racing was safer. In fact, the dangers in open wheel racing are more prevalent. | |
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JWA
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/7/2008 4:09:10 AM |
Your comprehension skills are lacking. My remark regarding the "big one" was about restrictor plates. NASCAR's solution to the ever increasing speeds was to choke the motor down, forcing all cars to go balls out for 500 miles. When something bad happens, no one dares lift in fear of losing multiple positions, subsequently exasperating the large pile up. A simple solution would be to reduce the tire size and adhesion available. This would force the competitors to slow down going in to the turns, but still allowing them to accelerate back to speed if there was a incident. The way it is now, they close their eyes and stay on the throttle. Restrictor plates have ruined the race. It's only worth watching the last two laps.
Also, back to being proactive. None of the other sanctioning bodies were proactive in regards to the seat belt issue. It was an incident and an SCCA event that brought to light competitors were threading their seat belts wrong. This was, as I said in the early 90sm and all the sanctioning bodies were put on alert. Bill Simpson himself notified the France family and well as Helton about the dangers. He also repeatedly told Earnhardt of the problem and Earnhardt refused to take action. Never in this debate did I state open wheel racing was safer. In fact, the dangers in open wheel racing are more prevalent.
Sorry sir but I lack nothing in “comprehension skills” when it comes to this thread. What I am beginning to think is you might not be as well versed in NASCAR as you believe or claim. I'm simply reading your words and trying to make sense of them--at least as it relates to what I know. I’ll readily concede the seat belt issue as I just do not have specific knowledge about it to reply accurately. You “win” that part of the debate!
Your idea to reduce tire adhesion eludes all logic and certainly misses the point of slowing racing speeds---the main purpose of restrictor plates. The original issue was cars not having enough traction and/or downforce at higher racing speeds due the resultant aerodynamic profile mandated in order to more closely resemble “stock cars”. The then-current limited profile templates addressed too few parameters so the creative builders found more and more ways to reduce aerodynamic drag with a big result being significant loss of rear wheel downforce. FWIW It was discovered cars in race trim and at a simulated 200mph in wind tunnel tests exerted UNDER 20 psi downforce, measured at the rear bumper. The then-current design and rules did not address a cars behavior if it was not traveling straight relative to the driveline thrust line.
Suffering a significant loss of the already lacking car/track adhesion typically resulted in “the big one” as the massive wheel horsepower without restrictor plates created higher and higher speeds. Ultimately this directly contributed to the uncontrollable behavior once a car slid or slipped into an attitude whereby the aerodynamic forces actually caused it to become airborne. There’s not much need to discuss what can and has happened to all involved when any car leaves any track. Think Bobby Allison climbing the front stretch fences at Talladega in 1987 and consider how that would have impacted all of motorsports in the USA had this accident been any more terrifying and horrific than it was.
Slowing speeds to under 200mph AND maintaining the “stock car” formula was of primary concern----any other “cure” would have required a completely different car design at the affected larger tracks. In order to NOT render existing cars obsolete and/or create another car design restrictor plates were a quick, effective interim solution that served nearly all concerns—the main one still being reducing racing speeds. Restrictor plates DO cause huge gaggles of cars running similar speeds but so far the behavior of a car once it slides or skids has not been addressed which is the real cause of “the big one”. Forward speed is not the issue nor is the number of or proximity of other cars the cause of these huge pile ups. If the cars were more controllable and predictable these massive wrecks would not be so common. Yes throttle response IS vital to evasive driving but a loss of control contributes far more to “the big one” than a loss of quick acceleration. Reducing adhesion would increase the lack of control----do we want a 3400 pound car with 750+ wheel horsepower with LESS adhesion to the track? I don’t think so..........................
The only real solution is to once again reduce the maximum CID while continuing to require carburetors and gasoline for fuel. This could be a workable solution with a smaller impact on those fielding cars than most any other so far offered solution. In fact, there were on-going experiments with V6 motors so perhaps that could be revisited?
If you’re not interested in or fascinated by the whole aspect of high mileage racing then yes the last two laps would be the only “exciting” part. Instead the ability to still be on the track at the end is paramount to winning therefore HOW you get to the end is part of the action and does contribute to the drama of it all. If you need a quick thrill the NHRA is best----never a dull moment but it’s all over in less than 10 seconds---sometimes quicker! I guess in the end it all comes down to what we find individually exciting or fascination----right??? | |
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/11/2008 8:14:54 PM |
Would you date a NASCAR fan?
I might if he met my dating criteria.
I am a major NASCAR fan but it does not identify who I am. Apparantly some people believe if you are a fan you must be a tobacco chewing, beer drinking, redneck hick with no intelligence or couth. (Which is not true)
Just as with any stereotyping, while there may be some that fit this description it doesn’t mean all people that like NASCAR can be described in that way. If anyone has that listed as a reason not to date someone because they believe the stereotype why would the NASCAR fan want to date them? | |
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Posted: 1/11/2008 8:56:54 PM | blondblueyed wrote:
Just as with any stereotyping, while there may be some that fit this description it doesn’t mean all people that like NASCAR can be described in that way. If anyone has that listed as a reason not to date someone because they believe the stereotype why would the NASCAR fan want to date them?
Yes, this is true of any stereotypes. Why would you resent or want to force yourself upon somebody who has pre-rejected you based upon your appearance, your beliefs, or something you do? It is not fair, but who ever said life was fair?
As I have said earlier in this thread I used to have a stereotype concerning those who were NASCAR fans until a woman I met and who is now my friend completely broke down those notions I had as well as others. She changed my thinking in many ways which made me more accepting of others and their passions and I am a better person for it. There will undoubtedly come a day when we part ways and I hope she does not forget me for I will never forget her. | |
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/12/2008 5:09:30 PM |
Im in lust with Tony Stewart!!....
OK..I said it!!
Hmmmm.......... I'm in lust with the CARS!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/12/2008 5:21:49 PM |
Im in lust with Tony Stewart!!....
OK..I said it!!
Hmmmm.......... I'm in lust with the CARS!!!!!!!!!!!
BULLITT
Well, I'm in lust with the entire package!!
Seriously, until I got to really know the sport, and I'm not saying I know a lot,
but before I started to learn the strategy behind the pits and the teams, I didn't enjoy
it and would get bored when I was with someone that was all hyped about it.
That's kind of how I feel about the other racing venues now....
But once you educate yourself it grows on ya like a mustache on Tom Selleck....
mmmm, and ya'll know how I feel about that......
Hey BULLITT, you KNOW I'd date a Nascar fan!! weeeeeeeeee~ | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 7:00:02 PM | No, I wouldn't date a NASCAR fan ........ I have no interest in NASCAR - all they do is go round in circles, wheres the fun in that ?? But then again we dont have any oval racing in the UK so I would say it was boring, wouldnt I ?! Although now that Brit Dario Franchitti is doing it next year , I might look at a couple of races ...
Much prefer road courses , and the British Touring Car Championship
But my real passion is rallying - get in them forests , boys !  | |
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Posted: 1/13/2008 2:17:56 AM |
it grows on ya like a mustache on Tom Selleck....
But Bullie........ I have a Tom Selleck mustache and a strip down my chin?????..... BUT!!!!!!!!! I can cuddle as good as a bulldog can I betcha...........
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| Would you date a NASCAR fan?
Posted: 1/13/2008 5:33:19 AM | No, I wouldn't date a NASCAR fan ........ I have no interest in NASCAR - all they do is go round in circles, wheres the fun in that ??
Misconception about Nascar FANS..... we don't all go in circles. Some of us actually turn right and go up and some have been known to go down.....
But Bullie........ I have a Tom Selleck mustache and a strip down my chin?????..... BUT!!!!!!!!! I can cuddle as good as a bulldog can I betcha...........
And THIS is why I love Nascar! LOL!! OK, maybe not totally.....
OT: If a person has a passion that doesn't coincide with yours, that's no reason to pass them by..... especially if they're adult and considerate enough to make concessions when you want to do something together on a Sunday afternoon..... hell, there's always TIVO!
I've dated some that have had hobbies that didn't include me and I found that time refreshing... because it gave me time to do what I wanted, without care or thought for anyone but myself. That's just healthy in any relationship. I don't want to be tied at the hip to any man! | |
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