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Posted: 11/29/2007 2:43:48 AM | No matter what my state of health, I would choose immeadiate death. Could you possibly imagine what it would be like to live for eternity? incomprehensible. Unless the immortality was accommpanied by special coping mechanisms...........I'd rather not be hanging around in 13 billion years time when the universe is dark and there is absolutely no sensory input at all.
imagine being in a dark box, no heat, light, sound, touch, NOTHING at all. that's what's in store for that kind of immortality. I'm not sure you'd remain sane for very long. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2007 3:38:05 AM | Live forever.
If you all die and all humans disappear, I promise to continue PoF forum as a memory of mankind's greatest achievement: PoF online dating
I think it's also another aspect:
the BRAVE ones say YES. the othes that love CHALLENGE, not afraid of an endless unknown JOURNEY. the ones that are active, and intrested in seeing and doing things. I am a VIKING, not afraid of death but not afraid of live forever either.
I want to live forever, and I will!!!
First, I will only break the Guiness record of "oldest person", than I will keep increasing this statistics forever!
the ones that said no are weak.
wake up | |
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Posted: 11/29/2007 10:19:59 AM | My bravery and my inquisitiveness have never been questioned. Especially by someone who didnt know me.
The people who have said yes to this kind of immortality, with the caveats I have pointed out are simply foolish and have not thought about this at all.
The basic tenet of the question is that you decision can NEVER be altered. you are opting for an 'unknown' that would of course, i'm sure, be very interesting for the first few million years perhaps.
After entropy takes over the universe though, YOU are still here and there is NOTHING but you.
Not a thing. No sense. no enjoyment. jst your memories.
you can't even move. you're a point in space.
You'd BE nothing. yet existing. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2007 10:33:28 AM | How is that any different than now?
I think it is a trick question. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2007 3:52:46 PM | Live for ever is an easy one. The ammount of experiences, knowledge one would gain troughout centuries and millenia is just very enticing. You could learn everything, see everything.
That's of course assuming that death is the end of it all. Which i dont think it is, more like the begining of it all. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2007 11:07:33 PM | I wouldn't choose within the 30 seconds and go with whatever it defaults me to. I don't think the universe will go on forever, so I'll die at it's end, or the Earth's, and then live forever:)
I have no kids, so not gonna see em die. Watching the death of mankind would give me a boner.  But I'm a man, so it wouldn't be mankind. So there's an out. So long as I exist, there won't be a death of mankind.
As for learning. I hear you learn a lot faster in the afterlife. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2007 11:42:45 PM | Well, if you have eternity to learn, doesnt the speed at which you learn new stuff becomes a moot point?
Mind you if you hate something and dont have an interest in it, having an eternity to learn to love it, would it still be enough to want to learn or do you still hate something no matter how great the time is spent trying to love it? | |
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Posted: 11/30/2007 1:00:14 AM | Well, if you have eternity to learn, doesnt the speed at which you learn new stuff becomes a moot point?
Depends how patient you are:)
My comments before had learning from God over limited humans in mind. Faster wasn't a good choice of words. I should have said better.
If you don't believe in God, then of course pick eternal physical life:) | |
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Posted: 11/30/2007 4:22:51 AM | Re: Msg #28
You're assuming that those of us who would choose to live forever would do so in stagnation. Given untold billions of years to do so, one might learn how to counter entropy if the Universe is open... or avoid the Big Crunch if the Universe is closed. | |
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Posted: 11/30/2007 4:33:17 AM | it's eternity either way. we know what life is. we don't know for sure what death is, but it is often referred to as being in heaven or the afterlife. some say there is no death, just a move into a different realm, but even if it isn't, for me the alternative choice would be being here and conscious of it, having to survive with no clean food, no clean air, no clean water, no protection from the sun or cold, no comforts at all, potentially and eventually no one else here so being totally alone for eternity would be a living hell to me. in fact, isn't that what is portrayed as hell? what happens when the demons come in your mind from solitary confinement, basically?
remember eternity is forever.
reminds me of Interview with a Vampire - and it was only a few hundred years they were around and they were not alone, but felt alone until they found others 'like' them....and even that became hell. and that's nothing like this would be.
we are asked to make a choice for ourselves here. putting down 'the other choice' or people who make that one is totally unnecessary. | |
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Posted: 11/30/2007 9:44:47 AM |
You're assuming that those of us who would choose to live forever would do so in stagnation. Given untold billions of years to do so, one might learn how to counter entropy if the Universe is open... or avoid the Big Crunch if the Universe is closed.
Possibly, but the original question gave you no special powers other than that you MUST be alive for eternity. No other physiological or mental difference was mentioned. On that basis, the only decision to make is one of death now.
In what way is your mind capacity going to be SO increased that you are cabable of far more than you are now?
If you do not develope some massive capacity for thought AND action, your only recourse is inaction. Eternity of it. Forever. A very big number indeed compared to the meagre thousands/millions of possible excitment.
A prison sentence without end and without stimulation. Horrifying.
IF there are other 'powers' added, I'll reconsider on the merits of the powers granted. | |
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Posted: 11/30/2007 10:13:04 AM | that's only a difficult choice if you believe dead is dead and that's all she wrote,...
this question also is different to someone 20 as to someone 60, 70, and up
and then there's the sick, and disabled,.....
I personally have worked with and around the dying,.....and I don't believe dead is fade to black,...so for me the question is a no brainer,....
living forever isn't all it seems to be as many novelists over the decades have explored,.... | |
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Posted: 11/30/2007 1:51:19 PM | My attitude on this has nothing to do with any belief in life after death, I think death is death.
It would have nothing to do with my age or my health,
I answered purely logically. | |
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Posted: 11/30/2007 8:49:26 PM |
The basic tenet of the question is that your decision can NEVER be altered. you are opting for an 'unknown' that would of course, I'm sure, be very interesting for the first few million years perhaps.
After entropy takes over the universe though, YOU are still here and there is NOTHING but you.
Not a thing. No sense. no enjoyment. just your memories.
you can't even move. you're a point in space.
You'd BE nothing. yet existing. But by your definition, I would not be nothing. I'd be alive, and thus a counterweight to entropy. Since I live forever, I'd be a constant source of energy and an infinite one at that! Just have to be patient!
Perhaps after I've built up enough energy, I'd say "Let there be Light!", and start things over again! Albiet, from a slightly different perspective!  | |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 5:11:28 AM | | Not a difficult choice for me. I am quite intellectually driven, so the longer I live the more I get to understand everything that is going on around me. It would suck to see my future children etc die, but I am a strong person so I could handle it. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 11:17:59 AM | Live Forever.
I could never forgive myself for causing my parents so much pain.
And my death would destroy my Mother. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 11:52:16 AM |
Possibly, but the original question gave you no special powers other than that you MUST be alive for eternity. No other physiological or mental difference was mentioned.
True, but if you have eternity, which technically has no ending, the sum of all that you experience will be staggering! The knowledge, the skills that one could acquire would be fantastic and to me this is what i find appealing in the idea of eternal life. Now granted that i believe there's life after death, that in essence you can achieve the same result once you die with your human body. However i know that if i was to live in this body forever that it could be possible to get those experiences, that knowledge. When i die, i have no guarantee that it will be the case. Maybe there IS nothing, All i have going for is that belief that there is more.
I can imagine what being alive forever would be like. Imagining what it is like once you die is quite different because i havent experienced it or i dont recall assuming i have died before. So needless to say in a perhaps coward fashion i rather choose living eternally in this body. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 3:41:31 PM |
Possibly, but the original question gave you no special powers other than that you MUST be alive for eternity. No other physiological or mental difference was mentioned.
The only 'special power' I'm proposing is the ability to learn and apply new knowledge to the task. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 5:45:12 PM | Looking at the world I rather die now... of course I don't want to see my loved ones died before me either... I know that I have Christ in my heart so it dosen't matter to me to die now.. or later... but to live forever I know I will live forever next to my loving Christ.... in heaven. Thank you God and make me a better person each day let me be strong in your word and a light to others ...use my hands to heal the sick and lead my feet where I am needed so you can use me as your instrument to heal, the sick, emotionally ill, physically ill, teach, learn, love, teach your word, help me to be humble , and pray to you.. | |
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Posted: 12/2/2007 6:46:16 AM |
The only 'special power' I'm proposing is the ability to learn and apply new knowledge to the task.
But to change things such as entropy would require a full knowledge of physics which as yet evades us. Your mental faculties are no better than they are now.........you're relying on time to learn EVERYTHING. How? you have a capacity limit.
Currently, hundreds of thousands of physiscists, mathemeticians and engineers are working in various fields and do not have the answers. I fail to see that one person, however old could.
So, I know I'm being pedantic and logical, but as the question was stated in the post..............living forever would be a terrible thing.
Add some powers or some criteria by which you can gaurantee that I will be kept interested for an infinity of time and I'll go for it!!
But humans simply do not have the ability to cope with an infinite life. Honestly, you'd regret it sooner rather than later. | |
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Posted: 12/2/2007 10:21:28 AM |
Your mental faculties are no better than they are now.........you're relying on time to learn EVERYTHING. How? you have a capacity limit
But is there *really* a capacity limit? I'm learning new things every DAY, and not forgetting everything I've learned before. That indicates that my capacity hasn't been reached yet.
As yet, we don't know exactly HOW memory is stored in the brain... it might not be dependent on the number of cells, but rather their ability to interconnect. If they don't die, there's the potential for a staggering amount of interconnections.
Currently, hundreds of thousands of physiscists, mathemeticians and engineers are working in various fields and do not have the answers. I fail to see that one person, however old could.
Then your failure is one of imagination...  | |
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Posted: 12/2/2007 1:00:44 PM |
But is there *really* a capacity limit? I'm learning new things every DAY, and not forgetting everything I've learned before
Unless you can quote every single memory from the start of your first memeories, this is OBVIOUSLY not true, you ARE forgetting things dailiy, the reason you do this is because you do not have the capacity ro remember this much information.
you may learn things, sure, we all do, but you forget memeories, and you also forget things you've learned if you dont use them. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2007 2:33:49 PM | That's easy... die now.
To live forever under this context would be an eternal stagnation to me... and my soul could NOT tolerate that!
Death is not an end... but the ultimate transformation imo... so death it is :) | |
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