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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 5/27/2008 3:48:43 PM |
I've not only visited TO on many occasions for Caribana but also to visit my many friends there. Most of those friends are of the African diaspora whether Carribean, South American or African,all are degreed professionals. All give interesting accounts of life in Canada which along with my own experiences in Canada leads me to believe that there are many similarities. Certainly more than enough similarities to give this school a try.
Funny that our euro-centric schooling didn't hold those friends back in the least. Next time you speak to them do yourself a favour and ask about their family lives and values as children.
Let me educate you further since you seem to require that I break everything down to the most elementary level. I see insulting/condescending since your agruments don't hold water
All statisitics show that Moorehouse has a MUCH higher graduation rate of African Americans than ANY of the forementioned schools. Well duh! What do you expect when the student body is over 95% African American
HBCs in general also have much higher rates of graduates recieving post graduate degrees. Often those post graduate degrees are garnered at non HBC schools such as Harvard, Yale, Columbia and more expressly state schools due to much lower tuition rates. So the same students can do well in a non-black-focus school, well that sort of shoots your stance right in the foot doesn't it.
Again, ALL evidence leads the LOGICAL reasonable person to at least strongly consider such a school given the demographics and statistics. As to funding, it cost more NOT to open such a school given the factors mentioned.
You presented no evidence whatsoever just opinions. So LOGIC dictates that one should question still.
And as for your other statement I have to call BS. NO kid is hard to teach unless they have an actual learning disability, and even then with a little work on coping with whatever that problem is their young minds still tend to be like sponges.
I was a tutor for several Grade 10 students with severely low reading ability (averaged around Gr.3-4 reading level). The worst progress any of my students had was to reach Grade 8 level in one semester, one girl actually reached grade 11 level in one semester then went onto college first for a heath care aid(PSW) and then back again for her RPN.
All of these kids had a few common traits and those that didn't have ADHD, dyslexia or other learning disabilities ALL had this in common..... uninterested/uninvolved parents (often though not always themselves uneducated and poor). All it took for their minds to open and blossom was a peer (another person from their community not another white guy or another black guy) to show a tiny bit of interest and help them get started in the right direction. Perhaps as an educator yourself there is a lesson to be learned still. | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 5/27/2008 3:59:38 PM | | Just try to have a all white or a focas white school or college or anything else white and see the law suits and jesse jackson and all the other reverend ass holes | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:13:22 PM | Just try to have a all white or a focas white school or college or anything else white and see the law suits and jesse jackson and all the other reverend ass holes
Forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't all schools in the U.S. already white-focused? | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 5/27/2008 11:03:23 PM | Well duh! What do you expect when the student body is over 95% African American Come on now. You do understand the difference and ratio of RATE in volume right? how about using an anology of shots on goal Volume doesnt necessarily increase or decrease RATE.
So the same students can do well in a non-black-focus school, well that sort of shoots your stance right in the foot doesn't it You used the quote....did you READ it? POSTGRADUATE.....After graduating with an undergraduate degree....what can be surmized is that they do well due to the groundwork in place after going through the "afrocentric curreculum".
Again, the point is and remains that it works. Whether it works in To remains to be seen until after its given a fair try. Can it save tax payer money? In the long run absolutely. Can it foster a stronger nation? Much more likely than not.To rehash the same arguments is pointless. | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 5/27/2008 11:30:44 PM | Black-focused (not black-only) schools
and
White-focused{not white-only} schools.
and
Asian-focused{not asian-only}schools
and
Japenese-focused{not Japanese-only} schools
and
Chinese-focused {not Chinese-only} schools
and
German-focused {not German-only} schools
and
India-focused {not India-only } schools
and
Mexican-focused{not Mexican only} schools
on and on.........so, how many schools need to be built or is there somewhere else we teach separatism?
Who builds them and when do we start enrolling? Who is responsible for ensuring each culture is taught to that cultures standard? | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 5/27/2008 11:47:14 PM |
The Toronto District School Board (TDSB) is considering the idea of operating a "black-focus" school to serve the needs of their non-white students.
There have been many heated debates about this issue stating the pros and cons of such an arrangement.
Are these "focus" schools popular in other areas?
Has anyone ever attended one of these schools?
Is there a need for this type of school?
This is an absolutely inappropriate use of public funds, as are any other divisive types of schooling (aboriginal, military, Half-Japanese-Half-Korean-Canadian, and any other racial, ethnic, or other "group" segregation).
You're a citizen or you aren't.
One school system for all.
- Christopher93 | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 5/27/2008 11:48:47 PM |
This is an absolutely inappropriate use of public funds, as are any other divisive types of schooling (aboriginal, military, Half-Japanese-Half-Korean-Canadian, and any other racial, ethnic, or other "group" segregation).
French? | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 5/28/2008 11:37:33 AM |
French?
French is a language not a race .
In the case of Canada.....the British and French formulated what that country is today and from its birth. The Native American was there as the Europeans came in so therefore a special status is understandable there . | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 8/19/2008 10:50:13 AM | We have white only schools, in may not say that in name, but in reality, they are. You are taught that white people are FATHERS of SCIENCE, the FATHERS of history, the FATHERS of ART and I think this racism has contributed to the mis-education of blacks and whites.
I believe that if the TRUTH about our history was told,(pre slavery) were Blacks were also the first people to introduce a worldwide culture and advanced civilizations on earth and the roots of "Western" civilization, culture, science, technology and religion was not Greece, but in Black Egypt and Nubia-Kush. Moreover, were blacks ruled Greece for thousands of years before the Dorians invaded Greece from northern Eurasia, and before the Greeks emerged as a people.
I believe that if we studied the black empires and civilizations from the prehistoric Zingh Empire which experimented in various aspects of science and technology. Later Black civilizations such as Khem and Mali experimented and created various sciences and technologies. In West Africa The Dogon of Mali were and still are the world's most efficient astronomers even without the use of a single telescope. Other Africans are experts at foretelling the weather by reading the stars.
The mathematical and astronomical sciences necessary for high technologies such as those used in space technology and industries were first began by Blacks in Khem (Egypt) and Kush (Sudan). Blacks built the greatest and largest monuments known to humans during ancient times. They took on massive works of building and engineering in an area from the prehistoric Zingh Empire of Mauritania and the Sahara (1500 B.C.)
Therefore, even if people of European origins have made improvements in ancient technologies and ancient inventions, such as rocketry, computer technology, aerodynamics and others, the basic mathematical formulas and ancient prototypes were invented by Africans and Chinese.
You see, SERIOUS White historians know these facts very well they also know that to tell the truth would reveal the dominate position of the Blackman in the bronze-age. SERIOUS white historians know they were barbarians when the foundation of world civilization was built by black men. Few western historians will tell the full story of man's racial history to do so would challenge the Aryan model of history so deeply ingrained in western culture. One fact I will emphasize again and again is that SERIOUS White historians are NOT ignorant of the truth about black history and in many cases they confirm it themselves.
So if we had a black school that taught them this black history instead of a history of servitude then I think this would benefit all. | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 8/20/2008 8:51:54 AM | | Could you give a reference for Blacks "ruling" Greece thousands of years ago? I'd never heard this before, and would be curious to read about it if it's true. | |
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 8/20/2008 12:36:30 PM | Could you give a reference for Blacks "ruling" Greece thousands of years ago? I'd never heard this before, and would be curious to read about it if it's true.
Africans never ruled Greece but the two cultures were part of a 6th century BC Mutual Admiration Society. Greek philosphers traveled to engage in discourse with Egyptian scholars.
Egyptians were "Melanchros" which means "black" in Greek (according to their writing)
For more information about this "connection" you should start with
Black Athena by Martin Bernal
He has spent the most time focusing on the interaction between Greece and Egyptian and I believe his scholarship to be sound.
I would not say that Africans were the first to develop anything because I was not there but I would say there's been a concerted effort to diminish any influence that other cultures may have had in Greece so as to immortalize them and Western Civilization and justify the Atlantic Slave Trade ( "Africans have never developed a society so thus they should be our slaves" )
While I shudder to think about the outrage to black focusd schools I do realize the importance of having black children have more access to black luminaries like
Dr Ivan Van Sertima
Cheik Anti Diop
Dr John Henrik Clark
and more. I do not believe in Eurocentrism nor Afrocentrism. I believe the world then was much as it is today. People enjoy the benefits of other cultures even if only in small amounts.
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| Black-focused (not black-only) schools
Posted: 8/20/2008 5:19:47 PM |
While I shudder to think about the outrage to black focusd schools I do realize the importance of having black children have more access to black luminaries like
Dr Ivan Van Sertima
Cheik Anti Diop
Dr John Henrik Clark
The outrage is only at basing a persons worth or the value of their contributions on skin colour. Basing a teachers value on their skin colour rather than their ability to engage children, to teach facts and to encourage them to think critically and form their own opinions.
and more. I do not believe in Eurocentrism nor Afrocentrism. I believe the world then was much as it is today. People enjoy the benefits of other cultures even if only in small amounts.
I knew you were a smart guy. This is why I find even Black History Month(pretty sure Native Americans, Chinese, and several European ethnicities contributions still go unacknowledged) a bit odd. It divides our citizens along racial lines, which is something we should avoid. It encourages the belief that by race we are somehow more different than as attributable to individuality. Contributions to your country and mine should be acknowledged from any group that contributed and taught to ALL students. The more we avoid tribalism and are exposed to cultures in a non-confrontational manner the more likely we are to recognize that despite minor differences we really are all very much alike.
Remember you are unique, one in a billion............ just like me | |
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