| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 3:05:06 PM | When a man opens a door for me I take is as an acknowledgment of my femininity. That he recognizes me as a woman, and being a gentleman, graciously opens the door and let's me precede him. My response is a smile and a big Thank You! Chivalry is not dead, as I have this experience wherever I go, and I hope men do not become so jaded by unresponsive women that they ever stop! I like being recognized as a woman, even by a total stranger. Keep it up guys!
And if you say Hi when passing by you get a Hi back from me. It's called manners. Saying hello is not a "come on" unless it's followed up with something more. | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 3:13:26 PM | | I try to always say thank you when someone holds a door open for me, although I do forget sometimes. If I leave via the front of the bus I usually say thank you to the bus driver. I don't always say hi back to people I see in random places though as it often seems as though they're hitting on me and usually when I'm out I'm there to do something, and I want to get it done and get back home so I can study or what ever else I have to do at home. | |
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medana
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Joined: 12/8/2005
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 3:14:22 PM | u r right. unless the guy that does those things freaks u out for whatever reason.
i will normally say thank u and appreciate it, unless he's trying to use those as pick-up techniques when i pass or walk by. in which case, i might ignore it. ill still say thanks for the door opened.
if he spooks me, he can be all honey, i'll trust my gut feeling and while he could be great, id rather not risk it.
so maybe they r scared, not stuck up.
u assume.
a woman will give off a stand-off arrogance when scared, i know ive been told i do. it simply is being unfriendly and not giving off weakly victim vibes either. women r like hedgehogs, we learnt to protect ourselves by pushing out those thorns, after all, this is the country w the highest percentage of sex crime and serial killers in the world
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 3:18:06 PM | I will hold the door for a lady until the day I die. I will always have a lady go through a door ahead of me.
Certainly don't make a big show of it.
Simple good manners and common courtesy never goes out of style.
Whether a woman accepts these acts graciously is entirely up to her, but most of them in my experience have appreciated the gesture. | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 3:19:13 PM | women r like hedgehogs, we learnt to protect ourselves by pushing out those thorns
Oh God, how true is that!! | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 6:26:38 PM | "What do you mean by " when did women get so stuck up ".......this sounds some bloke just got their nose put out of joint, because some woman didn't bow down to acknowledge him for his good deed.
Just have to learn to get over it mate.....life goes on."
Last i checked .... i said men do it too and "i notice it more in women" yeh my subject title is sorta borderline ... but really how am i bashing women i coulda been ALOT worse i have seen and heard alot worse from other people .... i even asked how many can say that they still do these little things .... i want to have a mature conversation about this and then i have "bloaks" lol ... like you bashing me? for what asking a question ... and having a tested opinion .... i mean if i was talking outta my ass fine rip me a new one but there was and is no reason for you people (the ones that did) to take shots at me. if you people wanna do away with manners thats fine by me but this would be a pretty hostile place! | |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 6:40:28 PM | women are more frightful than men. 1 in every 3 women are raped or sexually assulted in some form or another. Women are screwed over so much. Don't expect a woman to say thanks, for holding a door.She will be thinking what are you after. I do it for anyone as well. Makes the friendlier people all the more special.
I'm a friendly type of guy, I change tires for people broke down on the highway. I hold open doors for anyone, male or female even children. If I see a woman getting attacked or that has been attacked. I get mad (only one of very few ways to piss me off.) and kick the guys butt! I was raised that women were to be respected. being the son of a single mother, and all. I'm a very big type guy, 6'1" 200 lbs. (did have long hair and a goatee, with a earring) now, think if someonelike that walked up to your car. Your sitting on side of the road with a flat tire and can not change it. To see someone that big walk up and offer to help you. Dude, I scare people. I had women drive off with a flat tires because they got scared. I even had the kids with me, son jumped out of the car wanting to help. I helped more older women than younger. Do I complain about not being helpful.... nah. karma.... karma. | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 6:42:43 PM | I can honestly say that when someone says hi, I say hi back and when someone holds the door open for me, I say thanks. I think it's just good manners.
I also hold doors open for people and find it rude if they don't say thanks. I don't care how busy someone's life is...you should never forget manners. :) | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 6:51:03 PM | ok women are screwed over more ... right lets talk about the justice system for women compared to men ....
BOTTOM LINE
Women want to be treated equal fine i am cool with that and i agree with it ... but i don't think women should be able to have their cake and eat it too ... i mean i don't think i am asking for alot when i ask for a SIMPLE THANK YOU thats it a meazily little thank you .... like you did something for me and i appricate it shown in two little freakin words .... this is why because some people are perfectly cool with being walked over and need to seriously grow a SPINE .... i don't care WHO YOU ARE MALE OR FEMALE if you walk through a door i am holding ... you say thank you .... thats it ... because guess what i don't see holding the door for someone as manners ... i see it as being nice ... the manners come in with the thank you and a your welcome at the end ...... thats how i feel | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 6:52:30 PM | "I can honestly say that when someone says hi, I say hi back and when someone holds the door open for me, I say thanks. I think it's just good manners.
I also hold doors open for people and find it rude if they don't say thanks. I don't care how busy someone's life is...you should never forget manners. :)"
You dear are an amazing person ... there should be more people like you | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 6:59:43 PM | | Your doing a greater good. It is not spineless. That should be all that matters. manners or not, nice or not. Some people are in such a rush. I could tell you about rudeness, being in texa$$.... talk about rude rude people. No matter how much I hate freaking backwoods lubbock. There are some good people here. Like the old guy tonight when I held the door for him at 7-11. gave me a pat on the back and said thanks. Don't let it piss you off... just move on. | |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 7:03:09 PM | | if this thread gets one person to say thank you when they normally wouldn't i have done what i wanted to | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 7:11:44 PM | ASydneyMan: "I will hold the door for a lady until the day I die. I will always have a lady go through a door ahead of me.
Certainly don't make a big show of it.
Simple good manners and common courtesy never goes out of style.
Whether a woman accepts these acts graciously is entirely up to her, but most of them in my experience have appreciated the gesture."
BUMP
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Posted: 12/1/2007 7:12:40 PM | if this thread gets one person to say thank you when they normally wouldn't i have done what i wanted to
Baloney pupcakes! You won't be happy because it's not happening to you. I am NOT bashing you here, but you don't seem to hear what most of us are saying....
You do NOT do a good deed because of the accolades alloted you afterwards. You do them because it's the right thing to do.
Women want to be treated equal fine i am cool with that and i agree with it ... but i don't think women should be able to have their cake and eat it too ...
Just because women want equal pay for equal time worked doesn't mean we should be treated like cattle.
Continue to be a gentleman and enjoy the fact that you might have made a woman's day, without knowing it!!!
She might have just received news that she has breast cancer or maybe she left her child that's incredibly ill or maybe she really is a biotch....
But the point is to make a difference without applause. | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 7:53:11 PM | "Whether a woman accepts these acts graciously is entirely up to her, but most of them in my experience have appreciated the gesture."
you people seem to forget i am talking ABOUT BOTH MEN AND WOMEN .... how long does it take to say thank you? you can say it WHILE WALKING ..... i can't beleive people make excuses for the act of selfish-ness | |
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Posted: 12/1/2007 10:10:42 PM |
you people seem to forget i am talking ABOUT BOTH MEN AND WOMEN .... how long does it take to say thank you? you can say it WHILE WALKING ..... i can't beleive people make excuses for the act of selfish-ness
Then you should change the title of this tread from:
when did women get so stuck up(?)
to 'when did PEOPLE get so stuck up?' | |
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| when did furry humanoids get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 10:23:32 PM | you people seem to forget i am talking ABOUT BOTH MEN AND WOMEN
Personally, I think humanity has always been rude, unenlightened, fairly dumb, mean, short-sighted, ignorant, dirty.....and how we've managed to survive this long is beyond me. But, that's for an entirely different thread. Every generation always thinks things are getting worse when they've sort of been the same for thousands of years. The world hasn't come to an end yet, the human race isn't gone, the earth is still here, no one has ever liked anything a teenager does, we're still killing each other for various reasons, and men and women never seem to like each other but we continue mating anyway (see...we're pretty stupid).
Anyway, more in line with the original statement....I always say thank you when the door is opened for me. Where I work there are two sets of doors, so I get the second one for the guy then. If he looks all shocked, then I tell him I'm an "equal opportunity door opener." | |
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Joined: 10/16/2005
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 12/1/2007 10:24:53 PM | OP:
you people seem to forget i am talking ABOUT BOTH MEN AND WOMEN You can't forget something you never read or heard...you specifically said "women", but I'm glad you cleared it up.
I can only answer for me and women I've witnessed in the act...it's rare that I've seen someone hold open a door and NOT get a "thank you". It's funny, though, I hold doors open whenever anyone is behind me, but there have been a number of times that I didn't hear "thank you" from either the men or women.
I wouldn't generalize too much...PEOPLE are getting more rude, not just us ladies. | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 1/2/2008 4:59:08 PM | I guess there are better terms than stuck up. One can use anal, or arrogant, shallow, snobbish. And when you factor in the Web community, many women get worse. I guess they figure they don’t have to see the person they disrespect so it is much easier to do. I am quite sure some women get many responses, but that is what they signed on for. So, one should make the time to respond if just to let the other person know you received what was sent, common courtesy. If someone opened a shop, but a sandwich board out front with the weekly deals had the door open but never waited on you when you stepped up to the counter, wouldn’t you wonder why? What was the reason for all that fan fare to get your attention of they don’t want you bothering them? Seems just plain dumb.
You can be Chicken Little and go run and hide every time people who can be called a stranger ask you anything. Then we wonder why we don’t know our neighbor or half the people we work with if in a large company. We suspect everyone of some sinister motive when they open their mouth to say more than “hi”, and 70% of the time if that was all they said there would be suspicion
It might be historically true and logically viable that men and women would hardly ever be together if it were nor for sex. Interest and activity wise how much of an over lap is there? How many men you know like going shoe shopping or antiquing? Know many women bass fishermen in the office or your neighborhood? Maybe some women who are highly into deer hunting? The main glue is sex.
But seeing that is the logic there is no reason to be rude sight unseen and untested. But if you are going to be snobbish, don’t apologize or try to feign that you are not. If you are holding out your response for a select number of men, regardless of what you say, you are not answering all equally even if on a social level. | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 1/2/2008 5:22:16 PM | Don't hold the door open or say hi in passing anymore. If it's not getting you what you want, don't do it.
I don't say hi to women in passing. If need be, I'll give a "what's up" nod (like on a hiking/jogging trail) but I'd do the same to a man. I'll hold the door open if it will slam on someone's face or if someone is struggling with something. Basically, I treat women the same I do as men. No difference. I have the same expectations from women as I do from men. Chivalry is saved for the importanat gals in my life.
Am I not a gentleman? I could care less. Man or woman, you get treated the same. Attractive or unattractive, you get treated the same... with a casual indifference.
I'm never disappointed by their reactions. I just don't care. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2008 5:35:09 PM | | I hold doors open,let others in front of me while driving on the street all of the time,I don't expect a 'thank-you'.It's just being kind.You can usually tell when a 'Princess' is expecting you to do it though.I can't say that i blame nice women for giving no response, society is getting more dangerous by the day.It has to be especially tough on women,because they never know when an innocent 'thank-you' will turn into them being stalked.I think that it's a necessary evil for women to be more guarded.The reason to do something nice shouldn't be to expect something in return,imho. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2008 5:45:48 PM |
I was being facetious with the plastic surgery comment. You said women's noses are getting pushed higher.
Hahahaha...I loved it...that was awesome...and nice usage of the word facetious...I always liked that word, but had no clue as to when to actually use it. I'm now officially one word smarter than I was yesterday. :) | |
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| when did women get so stuck up
Posted: 1/3/2008 8:33:12 PM | The Reason...what a great,refreshing, uplifting post~ Kudos !!!!
And Herding Cats, you rock, completely. I am a big fan of your posts, have seen them in other threads. :)
I have to agree...if you're holding open doors expecting an acknowledgment, you're doing it for the wrong reasons, rhinoplasty notwithstanding. :)
And, some here have noted the death of good manners, or at least, near-death, and I sadly concur. We could all work at being more polite and courteous...lovely things happen....it becomes contagious. :)
Did you guys hear about the Starbucks' drive-through thing at Christmas...where one person just spontaneosuly paid for the order of the person in the car behind him, and then another EIGHT HUNDRED customers just kept paying it forward ???
I am probly gettin' old, but that made me so proud I puddled up.
I think we need loooooooooooooooooooottttsssss more of that.
Happy 2008 to all~ :)
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