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 fishernick

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Eli Manning is going to the superbowl
Posted: 1/21/2008 10:27:15 AM
i think it is interesting to reread this thread. look at all the people saying eli is a loser, he will never be peyton. i know he will never be peyton, i want him to be eli. forge his own path in life. popopular opinion defeated once again. how many poeple and even supposed giants fans were calling for elis head. eli manning is going to the superbowl. i still cant really believe it. amazing twist of fate. eli is the real deal ladies and gentlemen. there is a new manning on the block. i think everyone who posted talking smack about eli should eat some humble pie and apologize to eli. come on lets go. admit your mistakes and lets move forward. show some class
 eman07

Joined: 6/30/2006
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Posted: 1/21/2008 10:46:48 AM
I have been really hard on Eli, but I will admit he did play very well the last month. The giants defense has a lot to do with it, but all in all eli has played really well.....

Im rooting really hard for the giants, I just dont know if they can hang with the pats...but with that said, they have played really good football the past month...gmen d-line is a monster, might be a difference in the game....

but yes fishernick....

here i am eating some crow....I give credit where credit is due..gmen have played really well the last month....

congrats on making superbowl..and go gmen!!!!
 fishernick

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Posted: 1/21/2008 11:05:54 AM
eli thanks you eman, i give you much respect for admiting your fault. i know when i am wrong it is a very hard thing for me to do. statistically you had a pretty good case but i always felt there was much more to eli than the stats were saying. who knows, maybe next year it will be the broncos and the giants in the super bowl
 17 Again

Joined: 4/23/2007
Msg: 129
Eli Manning is going to the superbowl
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:54:02 AM
Come on Fishnick I want to beat Brady in the Superbowl two times in a row
 17 Again

Joined: 4/23/2007
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Posted: 1/21/2008 11:56:49 AM
eman07 said: here i am eating some crow....I give credit where credit is due..gmen have played really well the last month....

congrats on making superbowl..and go gmen!!!!

for you!

Want some ketchup with that crow?
 scotterpop

Joined: 8/23/2007
Msg: 131
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Posted: 1/21/2008 12:39:14 PM
I thought the receivers were having a better night catching the ball than Eli had throwing it. That catch on the sideline by Toomer was a thing of beauty. If his feet were an inch smaller, he would have drifted out of bounds before touching inbounds. And of course, Buress was the MVP of that game. I just remeber a lot of stretched out or leaping receivers completing Eli 's mediocre passes.
This Eli euphoria reminds me of Grossman's little bandwagon that people jumped on after last year's NFC Champ. game.

At the end of the year I'm an NFC fan. So to contrast my negativity toward the Giants: GO GIANTS!!!!!
 weathered1

Joined: 10/13/2007
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Posted: 1/21/2008 1:40:17 PM
Congrats to Eli & the Giants. Eli has grown leaps & bounds during the playoffs. He had nice touch on most of his throws, and showed good pocket presence againt the Packers. Hope he plays well in the Superbowl so the G-men can pull the upset!
 slysterling

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Posted: 1/21/2008 1:42:50 PM
msg124:"""...you almost had a perfect call of the outcome, good job..."""

Thanks fishnick. And kudo's to you and 17 on your faith in Eli. Too bad i tanked the San diego prediction all over the pool. Somebody forgot to cc me in on the memo that lady tomlinson left her heart back in California. I surfed sports blogs till the late hours last nite and there is one ton of football fans wondering why (s)he sat on the bench all day sulking behind his Darth vader mask rather than at least taking his helmet off, putting a toque on, getting off his backside, and going to the sidelines and encouraging his club. I can't really remember seeing a guy sit like that for the duration of a game. Too bad for the Chargers too that they had all those guys missing. The Defence did a great job until Maroney finally wore them out in the 4th quarter.

The Pats fans won't like to hear it, but i still think this team can be had. They slipped off the hook in Indy, Baltimore, Philly and 3 weeks ago in the Meadowlands. G-men are still dropping footballs, so no more drops and one less turnover than they had 3 weeks ago, and big bad Michael Strahan and his gang of Road Warriors may just be getting their hands on a Lombardi trophy. I'd like to see it. Like i sad a long time ago, i always had a soft spot for the Giants and the term road warriors has some personal significance for me. They've played like a real team their last 4 outings.

I'll sit and think about the final score for a few days before i give you the pick, but i am going with the G-men to pull off the upset here. It's not going to be easy, but it should be one heck of a barnburner for a football game.

As for humble pie, I'll take a slice of Norv Turner pie. I think he gained a lot of respect around the league for that clubs final two, pretty gutsy performances. Starting out at 1-3, he ended up taking them farther than Marty ever did in his 5 years there. They should move LT in the offseason. Their backups played a real good game yesterday.

And i agree with the STFU for Tiki Barber.

Congrats to the Giants in their NFC Championship!
 downtown77

Joined: 1/15/2008
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Posted: 1/21/2008 1:47:00 PM
you do need an e..l..i

to spell dilfer.
but at least dilfer won.

eli is playing ok.
the giants will lose and then; not make the playoffs next year.
one man's opinion.
 dennyden

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Posted: 1/23/2008 8:58:52 AM
you do need an e..l..i

to spell dilfer.
but at least dilfer won.



thats just retarted, theravens won inspite of dilfer, not because of dilfer, really its eli 4th year, not his 8th or 9th like dilfer, plus dilfer went with one of the greastest defenese ever, if that team had a avg or even good defenese they do not win, thats like saying u need a T. O. M ( brady ) to spell montana, just obsured.
 downtown77

Joined: 1/15/2008
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Posted: 1/23/2008 10:31:58 AM
actually
your TOM point is the perfect analogy but for a completely different purpose than you intended
they have both won super bowls and are considered by many to be the best or close to the best ever!!!

and the giants defense is pretty damn good

oh
and
it is RETARDED
not retarted.
 17 Again

Joined: 4/23/2007
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Posted: 1/23/2008 11:58:40 AM
42nd Superbowl and 42 facts!

I thought I would share this information you might find it very interesting!!

I. This is the 42nd Super Bowl and the second time it has been held in Arizona. Super Bowl XXX was held at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Arizona (Cowboys 27, Steelers 17).

II. The NFC leads 21-20 all-time but the AFC has won eight of the last 10 games after losing 13 straight.

III. The AFC is the home team in this year’s Super Bowl.

IV. To date 3,205,733 people have attended Super Bowl games.

Careful when you cheer when the coin toss comes up heads ... winning the pregame toss doesn't mean a Super Bowl victory.

V. No Super Bowl has ever gone to overtime.

VI. The team that has won the coin toss is 19-22 all-time in the Super Bowl and has lost the past four straight and nine of the last 11 games. The Patriots lost the coin toss in each of their three Super Bowl wins. They won the coin toss for Super Bowl XXXI and lost the game; they lost the coin toss for Super Bowl XX vs. the Bears and also lost that game. The Giants won the coin toss in Super Bowl XXXV and lost that game; they lost the coin toss in both Super Bowls XX and XXV and won those games.

VII. The Giants-Patriots Super Bowl is the 12th Super Bowl to feature two teams that met during the regular season. The team that lost the regular-season meeting has won six of the previous 11 matchups. The last matchup was Super Bowl XXXVI between the Patriots and Rams (Rams won regular season; Patriots won the Super Bowl)

VIII. The Giants-Patriots Super Bowl is only the second time that the two Super Bowl participants have met in the final regular season game; the other occurrence was in 1977 when the Cowboys and Broncos met in Week 14 and then in Super Bowl XII. The Cowboys won both games. (The Giants and Patriots also met in the final game of this year's preseason; The Patriots won that game 27-20).

IX. The Patriots have 20 players with Super Bowl experience on their current roster; the Giants have three.

X. Patriots LB Tedy Bruschi will be playing in his fifth Super Bowl; he is the 15th player to play in five Super Bowls. He is the seventh player to play in five Super Bowls with the same team, joining Larry Cole (Cowboys), Cliff Harris (Cowboys), D.D. Lewis (Cowboys) Charlie Waters (Cowboys), Rayfield Wright (Cowboys) and John Elway (Broncos).

With another Super Bowl MVP award, Tom Brady will tie Joe Montana for the most all-time.

XI. 21 Quarterbacks have been named MVP of the Super Bowl, the most of any position.

XII. Tom Brady is one of four players with multiple Super Bowl MVP awards –- the three others are quarterbacks as well: Bart Starr (2), Joe Montana (3) and Terry Bradshaw (2).

XIII. Tom Brady is 1 of 4 players with three Super Bowl wins as a starting QB. The other three are Terry Bradshaw (4), Joe Montana (4) and Troy Aikman (3).

XIV. Tom Brady is the 23rd NFL MVP to play in the Super Bowl in the same season. The last MVP to win a Super Bowl the same season was Kurt Warner in Super Bowl XXXIV in 1999. Overall, 10 NFL MVPs have won the Super Bowl in the same season. In 1968, Earl Morrall won the NFL title but lost Super Bowl III to the Jets.

XV. The Patriots are making their sixth Super Bowl appearance –- and fourth in last seven years. The Patriots are the fourth franchise to make six Super Bowl appearances, joining the Cowboys (8), Steelers (6) and Broncos (6).

Bill Walsh won all three times he led the 49ers to the Super Bowl.

XVI. The Patriots have won three Super Bowls; with a win they’ll join the Steelers (5), Cowboys (5) and 49ers (5) as the only franchises to win 4 Super Bowls.

XVII. Bill Belichick is the eighth head coach to appear in four Super Bowls. The others are Don Shula (6), Tom Landry (5), Chuck Noll (4), Joe Gibbs (4), Bud Grant (4), Marv Levy (4) and Dan Reeves (4).

XVIII. Belichick is one of four coaches to win three Super Bowls. The others are Chuck Noll (4-0), Bill Walsh (3-0) and Joe Gibbs (3-1).

XIX. Since 2001, the Patriots are 24-7 when meeting teams for the second or third (Jets, 2006) time in the same season.

XX. Junior Seau is making his second Super Bowl appearance; the first since Super Bowl XXIX. The 13 years between Super Bowl appearances is the longest span in the game’s history.

XXI. The Patriots are the third team to win 18 games in a season, including playoffs. The ’85 Bears (18-1) and ’84 49ers (18-1) also won 18 games.

Junior Seau's Super Bowl XXIX experience was a bitter one.

XXII. The Patriots are the 11th team to go 10-0 at home, including the playoffs. Of the previous 10 to accomplish the feat, 8 of them won the Super Bowl (only the 1990 Bills and 1988 Bengals lost).

XXIII. The Patriots led the NFL with 36.8 PPG this season, the highest in the Super Bowl era.

XXIV. The Patriots are the 17th team to lead the NFL in scoring and reach the Super Bowl. The previous 16 teams are 9-7 in the Super Bowl (last two -- the ’05 Seahawks and ’01 Rams -- have lost). The last team to lead the NFL in scoring and win the Super Bowl was the ’99 Rams in XXXIV.

XXV. The Giants will be playing in their 18th NFL title game dating back to 1933. The Giants have won five NFL championships in their history –- including two Super Bowls.

XXVI. The Giants' 18 NFL championship game appearances are the most in NFL history.

Eli Manning was a No. 1 overall pick, but was originally selected by the Chargers.

XXVII. Eli Manning is the seventh No. 1 overall pick to start the Super Bowl at quarterback; the others are Peyton Manning, Drew Bledsoe, Troy Aikman, John Elway, Jim Plunkett and Terry Bradshaw.

XXVIII. 18 sets of brothers to have reached the Super Bowl. Eli and Peyton Manning are the first set of brothers at quarterback.

XXIX. Eli Manning is the only quarterback in the 2007 playoffs yet to throw an interception. Of the 12 quarterbacks in the 2007 playoffs, he had the most interceptions during the regular season (20) -- tied for the most in the NFL with Jon Kitna and Carson Palmer.

XXX. Eli Manning is the seventh quarterback in the Super Bowl era (since 1966) to throw 20 interceptions in the regular season and reach the Super Bowl.

XXXI. This is the second straight season in which the NFC quarterback in the Super Bowl threw 20 interceptions in the regular season (last year, Rex Grossman threw 20 interceptions, and threw three in the playoffs, two in the Super Bowl). The other to throw 20 interceptions during the regular season and then reach the Super Bowl are Kurt Warner (22 in 2001), Phil Simms (22 in 1986), Terry Bradshaw (25 in 1979 and 20 in 1978) and Darryl Lamonica (20 in 1967). The only two Super Bowl quarterbacks to throw 20 interceptions during the regular season and not throw one in the playoffs were Boomer Esiason in 1990 and Simms in 1986.

XXXII. Tom Coughlin is coaching in his first Super Bowl as a head coach. Head coaches making their Super Bowl debut are 20-22.

XXXIII. Tom Coughlin has coached 205 career games, including the playoffs. That is the most games coached before making a Super Bowl debut as a head coach.

XXXIV. The Giants are 10-1 away from Giants Stadium and 3-5 at home this season.

XXXV. The Giants are the third team to reach the Super Bowl by winning three straight road games, joining the ’05 Steelers and ’85 Patriots.

Hines Ward helped the wild-card Steelers win Super Bowl XL.

XXXVI. The Giants are the ninth wild-card team to reach the Super Bowl. Wild-card teams are 4-4 in the Super Bowl. The ’05 Steelers were the last wild-card team to win.

XXXVII. The Giants are the fourth team to reach the Super Bowl following a 0-2 start. They join the ’01 Patriots, ’96 Patriots and ’93 Cowboys.

XXXVIII. The Giants are the only team in NFL history to win 10 straight road games in a season.

XXXIX. Bill Belichick (15) and Tom Coughlin (7) have 22 postseason victories combined, tied for the second most in Super Bowl history among opposing coaches and surpassed only by the 25 combined playoff wins by Tom Landry and Chuck Noll in Super Bowl XIII.

XL. Giants long snapper/linebacker Zak DeOssie’s father Steve DeOssie played in Super Bowl XXV as a member of the Giants (Belichick was the defensive coordinator of that Giants team). The DeOssie’s are the ninth different father-son combo to reach the Super Bowl.

XLI. When he appears in the game, Jeff Feagles will be the oldest Super Bowl participant at 41 years, 335 days. The previous oldest was Mike Horan at 40 years, 363 days. Feagles began his career with the Patriots in 1988.

XLII. Giants DE Justin Tuck and Patriots LB Adalius Thomas are cousins. Tuck’s father and Thomas’ father are first cousins.
 fishernick

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Posted: 1/23/2008 12:31:44 PM
interesting read, it helped me kill some time. 11 days to go dammit, time has slowed down to a crawl. wizard of oz go and read post 49.
 dennyden

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Posted: 1/23/2008 3:06:57 PM
and the giants defense is pretty damn good

now where near the caliber of that ravens defense, so dont even compare, and thanks for the grammer correction, iam sure u do that for everyone? my point is that its just silly. let eli have his momet, he got his team to the superbowl,nobody is saying that hes one of the best ever
 wizardofossington

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Posted: 1/23/2008 8:24:38 PM
Oh let me rephrase that.....

Now, now....We got some Giant fans in here that think they are going to WIN the Super Bowl.

Read post 33.....Just reminding you about your math skills.
 S.l.123

Joined: 6/25/2007
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Posted: 1/24/2008 4:03:12 AM
To Eman07 no need to apologize. Who could of saw this. It was simple when Shockey
went down Eli got better. Why? The offense became simple throw it to Plaxico or Toomer. Hand it off. Plaxico Or Toomer hand it off.

I didn't read through all the posts but I remember a Giant team who lost a Qb and game in December to an AFC power. Only to win the SB in the rematch. Also the NFC Championship ended the same way. Jim Burt forced a fumble and the kick was good.
 17 Again

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Posted: 1/24/2008 3:22:52 PM
Wizard, just a note yes there are many Giant fans. Seems a lot of football fans would like to see an upset in the Superbowl. They might say it might not happen but would like to see it. I say as you know

It will be a very good game maybe the best in all 42 Superbowl's.

Good luck Pats

Drink up So when its over you wont notice the loss until after hang over time.
 deejayehn

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Posted: 1/24/2008 3:36:52 PM
Hehehe... yeah. whatever.
 wizardofossington

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Posted: 1/24/2008 9:01:11 PM
I guess the New York Giants are considered "The American Team" for the reason that everybody hates the Patriots. Its the Pats verus the world, so bring it on.....
 scotterpop

Joined: 8/23/2007
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Posted: 1/25/2008 12:44:51 AM
I guess the New York Giants are considered "The American Team" for the reason that everybody hates the Patriots.


On a political level.... that's some deep sh.it.

No one has anointed the Giants "The American Team". If that were to happen, they would end up being hated like the Cowboys are... outside of Texas.

NO team is allowed to claim the country as if there was a single favorite team nation-wide.

wizardofossington: If I took you out of context then that's my fault. I'm just saying that "America's Team" is a bad stigma to have.
 deejayehn

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Posted: 1/25/2008 2:39:34 PM
I thought that the cowboys were mexico's team?
 17 Again

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Posted: 2/2/2008 6:06:00 PM
ELI WILL WIN

Back to back rings for Manning brothers! History in the making!

Brady after the loss reporters want to know what happened Brady how do you feel!
 wizardofossington

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Posted: 2/2/2008 6:36:13 PM
"wizardofossington: If I took you out of context then that's my fault. I'm just saying that "America's Team" is a bad stigma to have."

You did.....I meant the majority of people living outside of New Enlgand are cheering for the Giants.
 deejayehn

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Posted: 2/2/2008 10:15:51 PM

I guess the New York Giants are considered "The American Team" for the reason that everybody hates the Patriots. Its the Pats verus the world, so bring it on.....


I think the Raiders still have the worst "stigma."

The owner, actually.
 17 Again

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Posted: 2/3/2008 8:42:28 PM
ELI MANNING takes Giants to help win the Superbowl!!!!!
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