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Posted: 12/14/2007 3:34:01 PM |
Hmm isn it just a uniform? Just like hospitals, police stations, car dealerships, McD's and on and on and on wear?
They don't have a choice in that anymore than Hooters, or Ralphs or the Rodeo has
Sure there is a choice in working there, but I think the choice might often be that -making good tips or a minimum wage job that just won't feed the kids
They wear a uniform like staff at Tim Hortons, MacDonalds, BK ,whatever. The girls are covered .....you see more bare skin in the mall or at a junior high dance. If it weren't the clothing it would be the size of the building, the zoning of the property, some minor obstacle to get the whiners pissing and moaning. It's a restauraunt people......get over it
Yup basically what I said about hooters clothes in another thread | |
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Posted: 12/14/2007 5:01:53 PM | | Its kind of too bad that they are putting Hooters in the area that they are. It lends itself to be seen as "seedy" because its near pawn shops and a strip club. The Hooters that I have seen in USA and Mexico didn't feel the need to place itself off the beaten path like that. They were smack dab in the center of the shopping district, nothing seedy about it. | |
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Posted: 12/14/2007 6:26:15 PM | | Good point TG. If the location was downtown Halifax, mixed in with the other restaurants, I don't think there would have been as big a stink!!! | |
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Posted: 12/14/2007 9:04:43 PM | If this place opens, I just might have to go there and see what the fuss is all about. From what I can see from their web site , it look`s like a half decent place, then again there are worse places in metro. | |
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Posted: 12/14/2007 10:59:34 PM |
Dartmouth has a lot of potential but as residents can tell you, that strip bar that was on Wyse Rd. here brought a really bad criminal element along with it. Many residents are against the element that comes along with it.
Honestly, I just want young girls to stop focusing so much on their bodies and more on their minds. I do worry that this stuff just makes them feel their value is based on just superficial stuff.
It doesn't really matter though. As long as a man is willing to pay for it and it is profitable, it all will still go on. I'd just rather it not in my neighbourhood or up the street from my niece's school.
I say this one is the residents choice. It's easy to say people are being too b1tchy when its not going in your own back yard or you don't have young female kids walking through the area daily that you want to atleast preserve the facade they are being judged on more than their appearance.
Meh. Not to go further off topic, but while the place was open, I lived about six minutes walk from it, and I didn't notice any rise in crime. It's not like Little Nashville was a paragon of civic virtue or anything. It was going on in my backyard, and I feel completely comfortable saying people were being too ****y about it. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2007 4:28:30 AM | | the paper sometime last week stated he bid for property in dartmouth crossing and Bayers Lake, and was refused | |
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Posted: 12/16/2007 7:34:02 AM | I think the "Sensations Debate" pretty much galvanized (in a negative way) the ability for anyone to open or expand a business in the HRM that caters to adult sexuality in an open way.
Nite Magic Fashions, for example, reportedly (CBC Information Morning) can't find a landlord that will take them for a new, larger location.
Venus Envy opened on Barrington Street as a "book store" (take a look at the Notice they have posted by their door "warning" customers there are sex goods for sale there in the back.) Because they are subtle, nobody wants them closed. Yet.
Hooters will probably not open in the HRM but will find its' first location in Moncton (that's a prediction).
Sensations was run out of business on a rail, probably for these 3 reasons:
1. The owner's bus company was a mess and after it was closed by the Province for bad safety, the City got shafted by allowing his worthless old buses to be stored "temporarily" on HRM property in Burnside...they're still there, accumulating a storage bill that will ultimnately be a loss to the HRM, the the company owner is dead with a bankrupt estate. Sensations being reamed was to some extent revenge by the beaurocrats.
2. The adjoining neighborhood became home to a number of members of the press after Little Nashville closed. The area has been "coming back" in terms of home renovations, so despite Sensations actually being less of a problem to residents than Little Nashville ever was...they wanted it gone to enhance their personal property values and made sure the story got lots of coverage.
3. The owner was an idiot. He should have kept his exterior signage more subtle. Big billboards of "Miss Nude Universe Solar System" (or whatever) slinking across the front of the building was a huge, gigantic mistake.
There is a demand and room for businesses that cater to "adult" products, entertainment and services...trying to squash them or ghetto-ize them will detract from Halifax as a thriving city, not enhance it. | |
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Posted: 12/16/2007 8:11:58 AM |
Hooters will probably not open in the HRM but will find its' first location in Moncton (that's a prediction).
Umm even thou they now have their permits and the stop order has been cancelled and they are smack dab in the middle of renovations? | |
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Posted: 12/16/2007 8:25:25 AM | I don't follow local news very closely Paige, but the relevant fact is the location's a dog and has been for a decade or more...just like the old A&W property across from Atlantic Gardens in Bedford...not enough parking for any restaurant to be successful...that's why both those locations have had a string of restaurants open and close there over the past 15-20 years.
Pino's and Thu-Do for example were both excellent restauants in that Bedford location, but couldn't generate the volume, tried raising prices to compensate and each eventually located elsewhere.
The former Sizzler location on Portland Street is another dog of a location, which is probably why it now has a doggy-day-care renting the place....I've thought for some time it would make a good all-ages (teen) or speciality nightclub (goth?) if it were open only on Thus, Fri and Sat nites with lots of advertising, imported entertainment and a $10-$20 cover...
The fact that each of those three locations sat empty for years ought to tell you something...they're bad locations for restaurants in today's market.
Ingress/Egress & Parking are essential elements to any business that needs people to stop and get out of their cars to make money. It doesn't matter how many thousands of cars drive by your location every day...if they can't or don't stop and come in your doors.
So, if Hooters opens in the old Hub tavern property as its' first shot in the Maritimes... it won't last...it can't last...and if I were at Hooters HQ, I wouldn't let him locate there...the average spend per customer is too low for a mid-priced restaurant to run successfully with such a small parking lot.
If it were a men & women's spa or salon with an average spend of $75 per hour per person, maybe that'd be different...that's why the former police station in Bedford...a tiny place nearly impossible to get in and out of...makes money as a spa...Bedford women go in, stay an hour or two and drop a couple hundred bucks per visit.
It's all just math.
I think Moncton's a better bet unless the franchise holder ponies up the bucks to build in one of the HRM locations I suggested earlier.
I could be wrong...stranger things have happened. And I hope they do well....but it's unlikely. | |
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Posted: 12/16/2007 8:29:39 AM | | hey I agree MM parking is going to be there biggest promblem and like you said this is what about the forth or fifth place that tryed to operate there. Very poor judgement on there part | |
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Posted: 12/16/2007 8:51:42 AM | I'm not saying it will last.
I'm simply contradicting him (MM) saying it won't open here, but rather Moncton | |
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Posted: 1/30/2008 11:27:11 AM | Does everything really think parking is going to be such a big deal? There are huge lots right across the street. I don't see big parking lots in Halifax. I eat at the Taj Mahal and park across the way at Sobeys. Dartmouth's Main Street is kind of like what Quinpool Road is to Halifax. (I believe there are even xxx video stores on that street). And there are so many blue collar workers who will stop there, from Woodside, Burnside, and city work and job sites, as opposed to those who are going to the Crossing to shop.
I think of its potential for bachelor parties (who can go to Ralphs after) and think the Hooters bosses were very smart. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 1:23:33 PM | Has anyone been to the Hooters restaurant in Dartmouth lately? I went inside and walked by the kitchen. It was dirty, the floors were dirty and it looked like caked on food or something on the floor. Also I saw a cook coughing, and he didn't cover his mouth. Just spreading his germs around the place!' ')
I'm surprised the health department hasn't been in to do an inspection and shut the place down. They should be reported for the unsanitary conditions! | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 1:32:45 PM | I haven't ever been to Hooters, but with what I have been hearing lately about the place, I am not in any hurry to go there.
Everyone that I have spoken to regarding Hooters has told me that the food sucked big time, and the prices were outrageous.
But what is funny to me is hearing that the staff was told to do their jumping jacks out of sight of traffic, as they were causing a traffic jam.  | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 2:00:17 PM | | lol Darlena...from the first night they opened here...my nephew and his friends are regulars at supper time there... he says the food is ok, better than his own cooking anyhow...lol...ohhh I forgot to mention... they're only 25yrs old...I really don't think they are noticing the dirt or if the food has flavor...I'm sure they're there for the jumping jacks! | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 2:33:44 PM | I still don't understand why they didn't open up in Dartmouth Crossing...seems to be the most logical place... they would have had the business from burnside as well...
I agree, Main St. is a seedy area | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 3:41:16 PM | Hooters was in the news again a few months back when former employees say that they weren't paid on time more than once and they were shortchanged pay. The manager, Scott Samways, thinks he can get away with not paying employees obviously... | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 5:02:56 PM | I heard from a little birdy that they are in trouble also.( a good source lol)
But I think Paige and I called this we did say it wouldnt last too long | |
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Posted: 8/29/2008 7:42:56 PM |
I still don't understand why they didn't open up in Dartmouth Crossing...seems to be the most logical place... they would have had the business from burnside as well...
I agree, Main St. is a seedy area
I would say it might have to do with the cost of operation.
...side note, what would really fly in Dartmouth crossing would be a Dave & Busters....
Hooters was in the news again a few months back when former employees say that they weren't paid on time more than once and they were shortchanged pay. The manager, Scott Samways, thinks he can get away with not paying employees obviously
Unless the manager is also the owner, he is not the person responsible for paying the employees, he may be responsible for recording hours / bonus's etc.. but that would not make him negligent only incompetent.
I have worked for a few different companies in my day, and no matter how big or small, they still find ways to screw up your pay at some point. So the former employee may be correct (although most are former for a reason) she is just stating something that is very common. | |
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