| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/18/2007 1:20:05 PM | | The moral declarations here amaze me. She was willfully taking ecstasy just as she was willfully making all her own decisions. She is 23 years old and resposnble for herself. I would never share a woman but I'll neve judge a woman who apparently doesn't mind being shared if even just in the visual sense. Be as unhappy witht his situation as you want, just never forget your daughter is not locked in a cage and is making her own decisions. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/20/2007 5:51:39 PM | | As Dr.Phil would say;"ARE YOU KIDDING ME???" It's Ok with you to be "OK" with your daughter going to orgies with this older guy?AND he gives her drugs,and that's Ok too?There is a chance that he is using her,exploiting her,and turning her onto drugs.Where does that end?Is heroin next?Forced sex slavery?Perhaps him and his buddies will sell her to a sex slave ring and she will wind up missing in Aruba,like that other poor girl,and they never did find her yet,nor her body. | |
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tdipp
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/20/2007 8:50:11 PM | Interesting thread, first thing is your daughter is old enough to make her own decision
its her business not yours, 2) but if she's dumping off her son to you well she neglecting her duties as a mother and to that shame on her, but you are the one that keeps watching the grandson.
To answer your question If I loved her would I share her sexually ?? let me think about that one for a minute........................................................... HELL NO.
You dont share someone you love this isnt communism where you share her with the community , your daughter boyfriend is a pimp without financial compensation, and from the sounds of it your daughter is screwed up big time. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/21/2007 5:10:46 AM | as a mother with a 19yr old daughter...... - age difference, their choice.....swingers clubs......have you been to one,? i havent ,people i know have... the thought of my daughter at one at a young age....not good...... drugs....jeez the worst scenario...
i dont think a man can possibly think anything of the woman if he's prepared to share her sexually and get kicks from it....... thats unhealthy...... IMO
the child....... words fail me........ he's number one priority... not them..... Their lifestyle is totally irrisponsible.... | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/21/2007 5:51:58 AM | My daughter is 23 and her boyfriend is 44 im cool with that.
Hello..........he can't find older women to manipulate cause they're wise to him. Younger girls are easier to manipulate. I'm guessing this is why she goes to swinger parties to begin with. Would she do such a thing otherwise??
Guys be truthfull is there a chance he trully loves her.
Are you kidding?? HELL NO, he lusts after her but he does not love her. If he really loved her he would not be giving her drugs in order to manipulate her to do what HE wants. And also to get her to use your grandson for punishment when you interfere with them.
As far as your grandson, take him in and spend all the time you can because he probably isn't getting the love and attention from his mother like he should and definitely not from the boyfriend. Why do you think he begs you to stay longer??
Goodluck with this............... | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/21/2007 7:46:59 AM | | Well Mom, she is free, white and over 21 althought the fact that there is a child's life involved as well means you may need to step in if things get any freakier. Perhaps your daughter will grow out of this 'phase'~ she still has a ton of growing up to do. Keep a watchful eye out and being a Mom as well..i seriously wish the best for her in this matter and that you can impart some Wisdom of age her way(?)~~ | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/21/2007 8:43:44 AM |
Perhaps your daughter will grow out of this 'phase'~ she still has a ton of growing up to do.
Assuming the drugs don't kill her first....
Failing that, start saving for her therapy sessions for when she "grows" out of this phase.
Just because s0omeone is free white and over 21 does not mean they automatically make correct decisions.
And anyone of 44 who is with a 23 year old is a manuipulator. As was said on here before, the ladies his own age are too sharp to fall for him. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/21/2007 1:07:01 PM | | Yes, he could love her. There are clubs around here that have "Swinger Saturdays" where people get up on stage to be watched (only), and swinger clubs in every city in the country so it's not some strange underground fetish. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/21/2007 1:11:52 PM | have to wonder if he genuinly loves her if he lets others see her parts that should be for his eyes only
He should cover her in a sheet maybe. Who's to say what parts should and shouldn't be seen? This is all BS we make up for ourselves. It's arbitrary.
Some people like to show off what they love. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/21/2007 10:14:46 PM | I'm sorry but have we all forgotten about the kid here ?
Look, it's one thing to say "live and let live". She's 23 and he's 44. Fine. Maybe it's love , maybe it's not. Whatever, she's an adult. Here's what happens in the long run though :
She gets caught up in this crap and eventually somebody calls the authorities on her because she isn't being a very good parent. HE doesn't have that to worry about so what does he care ? If she's out partying and taking part in swinger's clubs, that's generally considered bad parenting. Would you want your kids to know that you have sex in front of other people while you're high ? I wouldn't. It's what we call risky behaviour for a number of reasons but primarily because while she's high, she's not thinking straight. People who aren't thinking straight tend to make bad decisions. Bad decisions at swinger's clubs would mean silly little things like developing a bad crack habit or having unprotected sex with whoever is passing by at any given time. I'm not some religious fanatic, I'm just someone who wants to know how this is supposed to turn out very well for her kid ? In what scenario does it end with her kid saying "You're the best mommy in the world , and I'm really glad you found that nice dirty old man to take care of us. I think he likes me too ! Let's share him now !"
Sick. The word is sick.
And finally OP, what can you do ? CALL THE AUTHORITIES and get that kid outta there ! You have a positive obligation to do that. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/25/2007 5:16:46 AM | | the childs father is only in his 20s and is a shocking dad. Has no intrest in him and he just lives around the corner. This is why initially i wasnt bothered by his age as i thought at least he has to be more mature than the other looser. Then i found out the dissapointing truth. Her father has nothing to do with her since she was 2 so theres no infulence there either. She is eating a lot of fat and getting skinnier and i think this is appealling to a lot of young girls. If i notice any totall solid neglegt or harm im definatley calling the athorities to drug test her. I just wanted to find out others opinions because i dont think it could be love on his part and that sucks coz shes head over heals with him. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/25/2007 5:25:45 AM | | I must point out that currently the only neglect is her being grumpy and yelling at him more often and wanting him out of the way so she can spend more time with the creep. I realise this is still a bad situation but i cant call the authorities yet. Ill loose her forever and she has already threatend that ill never see him again when i mentioned calling them if she dosent get her act together. I didnt get to see him for months and it was painfull. Its hell watching your child totally manipulated by a creep, every parents nightmare. Thanks everyone for your advice. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 12/26/2007 4:20:14 PM | | no chance he loves her, he is using her as a trophy at these clubs, i have visited a few in the past and it sems the older guys cheerish this, i would sit her down, tell her your feelings, tell her you are there for her if she ever needs anything and dont bring it up again, unless she neglets her son, then you may need to see a lawyer and try to get custody yourself for the childs sake. i wish you luck | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:55:17 AM |
Guys be truthfull is there a chance he trully loves her.
Obviously, he might love her; but the things you've revealed don't make this seem to be the case. X is bad for the brain, so if this 44-year-old is giving that to her, it doesn't seem like he has her best interests at heart. As for everything else, she is an adult and it's her responsibility to take care of her son and herself.
As a Mom, you can support her by keeping her aware of opportunities to make a change if she should ever want to. Tell her the truth as you see it, but don't nag or harp on it. Good luck with everything. It's got to be hard to watch your kid make risky choices. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 1/4/2008 2:37:21 PM | As far as what you should do.
I would write your daughter off as a lost cause.
File for custody of the baby and take him from her.
X is an entry drug and can and probably will lead to more damaging drugs.
As for the guy that is dating her and love.....
She is just an ignorant child...of course she thinks swinging is cool.....he told her it was.
He loves to get attention and to get off.
He has his little young piece of ass and wants to show off to others.
I am 40...well almost.
And even though I dont do swing parties I would never try to drug a little girl to get her to get naked for me.
The guy is scum and should have his mr. happy snatched off with some rusty pliars.
Your daughter wont listen because all girls her age know everything. (sorry 20 somethings reading this)
TAKE THE KID!!!!!!!!
after that what she and he does is none of your buisness.
in 5 or 10 years when she gets kicked out of the methadone clinc for hooking inside and comes dragging ass back to you then try to fix your relationship.
All you can do for her is lock her up in ther basement or let her live her life.
But the baby is innocent and needs someone that is at lesast thinking. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 1/4/2008 2:42:24 PM | He doesn't love her. At all.
He might love the idea of being with a young woman. He might love the attention he gets at the swinger parties by being there with her.
But he doesn't love her, that's for sure.
If he did, he wouldn't being drugging her up like that.
He wouldn't let her get grumpy with her son.
This is a guy who's using a young woman for now... until he gets bored of her.
And I don't think she's truly in love with him. I think it's more of an infatuation. She's taken with the idea of being with an "older guy". But she's letting that blind her to what a scumbag he's being. | |
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| If you loved her would you share her sexually
Posted: 1/4/2008 3:27:20 PM | | I agree with previous posters that you should seek a professional to help with this. Do that for the sake of your grandchild. This relationship has "unhealthy" written all over it. If she and her boyfriend are doing drugs, then that's enough for authorities to take her kid away. Parents who attend swinger parties are definitely not showing any signs of responsiblility. I would worry about doing what's best for your grandchild first. That should be your first priority. | |
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