| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/16/2007 6:08:26 PM | Let me point out that the "9 Million" you refer to aren't all each separate people. A LOT of WoW players have 2-3 accounts for various reasons being that they want to play both Horde and Alliance on the same PvP server, and such. I know this because I USED to be one of those people.
But as I said earlier, the term "geek" means a lot of things. A geek is someone that puts everything they have into what they love. People who read books a lot could be considered geeks. Hell, I even consider musicians geeks a lot of times. This is because a lot of musicians spend hours upon hours trying to create the perfect song/rhythm/whatever. My roommate is a musician and a lot of times he'll just go into his room and own seperate world away from society to write music...."Geeks" are people who steer away from society to do stuff. Yeah sure Musicians are the more better liked of these people, but still, they are considered geeks to me. So to say that geeks are just people that sit around and play WoW all day really is, as he put it, ignorant. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/16/2007 6:12:06 PM |
In my experience, geeks DO NOT make six figure salaries and tend to lose their sweethearts to hardcore game addiction. First of all, being a geek has nothing to do with salary.
Secondly, the people who spend all day every day playing wow to the point of ignoring everything else in their lives aren't by definition geeks, they're nerds (or possibly neither, nerds generally don't get SOs in the first place). I'm not going to go through all the differences again (this'd be something like the the fifth thread), but you've got it wrong.
Yes there are many millions of wow subscribers, but they are by no means all geeks. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/16/2007 6:48:11 PM | | Yes the term geek has broader connotations. And when referring to it in the broadest sense it has become chic to label oneself as a music geek or a trivia geek or whatever. Thats not who all the "Geeks are better" commentaries are about. Sorry to disappoint you. Your just chic and not geek. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/16/2007 6:52:41 PM | I agree that not all who subscribe are geeks. believe me i do. it's just that there are thousands who do take it too far. you cannot deny it. video game geeks are ten thousand times more intense then say those who simply work in the IT/tech field for a paycheck.
p.s. I have a level 70 undead warlock, and a level 50 blaster in city of heroes. right now i'm checking out granado espada. I'm no stranger...but i keep it in moderation, unlike a lot of my fellow geeks.. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/16/2007 7:39:48 PM | Geeks have been around longer than Microsoft. There was one famous geek from the 60s who was also half human. His name was Spock, and Bill Gates was a fan of his. Perhaps Bill was 'fascinated' by the use of flash drive with computers?
Not to be outdone, engineering schools saw a leap in enrollment due to Scotty's weekly miracles. Uhura's contribution to women in the workplace did not go unnoticed, either. She also sported the first Bluetooth device ever seen on TV. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/16/2007 10:39:37 PM | oh, wow.. they are making news articles about it?
anything interesting in it? | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 12:06:43 AM | I must be delusional, but I thought the word "geek" could be applied to anyone who was fairly technical, spoke in conversation, on a regular basis, using words you might not hear on a regular basis. The "geek" might also find subjects not widely accepted as cool, well, cool. They might not have the best social etiquette, are perhaps visibly distasteful and get excited about things that you might not get excited about, for example extrapolating on the idea of a time machine based on H.G. Wells's book.
No, I don't think that "Geeks" are the new "chic". I think some of the things they idolized are "chic"; and when someone sports a logo like "Atari", "Han Shot First" or a random Fraggle t-shirt... it gets noticed because it may be popular enough in it's own way.
Geek is just a word, an easily referenced label. A person is who they are because that's who they are.
Can't believe I actually posted about this. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 1:48:43 AM | | the definition of geek in the dictionary is someone with too much useless knowledge. of course the media slant projects the word "geek" and "nerd: as being only technologically associated. of the media type, the technologically associated (i use the correct term here) mainly struggle with antisocial behaviour, and if they can overcome that, they will lose the undesirable traits that make them frowned upon. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 5:06:51 AM | | As a fulltime geek, I do not agree. I do not know of any girls who do anything past go clubbing and does not seem to be improving at all. It does sparkle some hope to our geek way though. I know a lot of geeks, no girls flooding our way. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 12:56:37 PM | | What?? Of course geeks are chic, don't believe what you read in the papers, they rarely show geeks looking cool because most people don't buy into the perception of what it is that makes a geek cool. I buy my clothes 2nd hand off ebay's retro section, I read History Associations quartelry magazine, I spend my time socialising at home and mix with other like minded geeks talking about politics and if I do go out I stand in the corner of a nightclub shouting over the music asking the philosophical question, 'why are we here?' If that's not chic, well, then I don't know what is? | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 1:04:40 PM | | This is nothing new. My longest relationship (12 years) was with one. He was an engineer. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 1:51:22 PM | | You all fail at what you see as "geek" and quite frankly it saddens me. You can lead perfectly normal social lives like I do, and still be a geek, like me. I have a vast knowlede of video games, movies, and TV. I sit down and play video games. If you look at the stuff in my room, it screams 'HEY! I'M A GEEK!" with posters of video games, and old toys standing up, and 2 computers, etc, but I'm social. I go out on weekends, I have a few "geek" shirts, but I don't go out and hunt them down. I simply get them as gifts from friends and family. Honestly, I don't see how the vast majority of you could have even found your ways into your moms egg. You guys must be really fast swimmers and you know what the last thing is? You guys are great reasons why abortions are necessary. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 1:56:26 PM | | which guys? Me? No need to be so offensive by suggesting my genes should be forever cut from the human gene pool. Maybe we need to re-assess what a geek is, I perceive a Geek to be someone who has what society would view to be an odd intellectual fascination with a given topic or subject, be that anything from warhammer and he-men figures to computers and programming. I do have a social life, I just prefer to share my social life with like minded individuals as do most non geeks I think. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 2:03:54 PM | Geek has become a very broad term now. I have always been and always will be a social outcast and I go for others that are similar. I don't get into video games. I'd find a discussion on the code inside the video game far more interesting than anything relating to playing it. Then, on items people deem as "cool" such as the bike, you will never see me hanging out with a bunch of people on the street looking at my bike, because if it's out, I'm riding it and not stopping to interact with anyone. I do a lot of the things I like alone.
I don't think geeks became "chic." I think things that were already considered "chic" are getting the label of geeky whether they really are that or not. I would have a hard time viewing anything that is a part of pop western culture as geeky. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 3:02:47 PM |
p.s. I have a level 70 undead warlock, and a level 50 blaster in city of heroes. right now i'm checking out granado espada. I'm no stranger...but i keep it in moderation, unlike a lot of my fellow geeks..
OK, I (and most of the people I know) consider me a geek....and I have absolutley no idea what you're talking about. You've come here to bash "geeks" make this claim and that but you are probably a bigger geek than most of the people commenting on this thread.
As for salary well, I don't know. What I DO know however is that my "geekiness" allowed me to sell my web hosting and web design company 6 years ago. It paid for my house and put enough in the bank to go to work in education without a real concern for how much I would make in yearly salary for the rest of my life.
Buddy, hate to break it to you but the "geeks" that work for me and the ones that used to work for me, almost all made over 6 figures.
Having said that, the fact that "geek" is chic is freaking karma man, freaking karma. Anyone want to play D&D?  | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 3:45:24 PM |
the definition of geek in the dictionary is someone with too much useless knowledge.
Oh crap. No wonder people's eyes glaze over when I get on a roll. Too much useless knowledge spewing out.
As I said in my original post, I believe that this belief that geeks are the new chic comes from that horrible show and the fact that anyone who seems remotely knowledgeable about computers (in particular) and odd, obscure topics (in general) are considered by most people to be geeks.
I use the computer example simply because way back when, before there was bluetooth or cell phones, before there was the internet, back in the time of the Apple II, those who spent time using computers were the geeks/dorks of the school.
Now, those same people can seem like creatures from another planet when someone has a problem with their PC and a "geek" comes along and fixes the problem within seconds.
Of course the downside to this new found chic is comments like this one from the article. It is from a 20-something asian woman:
"Can I just add that I totally walk around my house in a giant red Napoleon Dynamite t-shirt. He's so awesome!"
Needless to say, such women don't exist in my area. But I digress. . .
The value of geeks are diluted by such statements and the beliefs that go along with it. Like many other topics, when something seems to be the new "it", everyone jumps on the bandwagon because it's the thing to do. Remember the ferocious trading of Beanie Babies? Remember what happened? Yeah, the same thing will happen to this chic-dom of geeks. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 4:25:00 PM | OP,....There is NOTHING SEXIER then an intelligent man,.....and if that is chic....
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 6:41:34 PM | I think that geek falls into two different categories:
1) Man child obsessed with video games or vitual reality games, socially inept
- NOT chic - never will be - comic books, Star Trek conventions - not sexy or chic
2) Man who is in tech industry, savvy with new tech, social skills vary
- Very Chic - another variation on the theme of how great it is to have a guy who can fix stuff around the house - like your computer or hook up your portable hard drive to your home theatre system
Extra bonus chic: if successful and has some social skills | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 6:50:25 PM | All I can say is.... BINNNNNNGO!
It has nothing to do with intelligence, brains or the ability to do anything... It has EVERYTHING to do with the salary.... | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 7:54:16 PM |
Man who is in tech industry, savvy with new tech, social skills vary alllll righty then.... apparently I left my penis laying around someplace because I haven't seen it in ages. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 8:05:07 PM | Hmmm...having too much useless knowledge is the definition of geek?
Does that mean Ken Jennings (superstar record holder of Jeopardy), is the King Geek?
I honestly don't know if I classify as a geek or not...I have a lot of useless knowledge and find many things interesting that most people wouldn't consider.
Though, I do have my head on straight....I think!! lol | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 8:21:32 PM |
think that geek falls into two different categories:
1) Man child obsessed with video games or vitual reality games, socially inept
- NOT chic - never will be - comic books, Star Trek conventions - not sexy or chic
2) Man who is in tech industry, savvy with new tech, social skills vary
- Very Chic - another variation on the theme of how great it is to have a guy who can fix stuff around the house - like your computer or hook up your portable hard drive to your home theatre system
Extra bonus chic: if successful and has some social skills
I, as well as a lot of people I know, fall into both categories. I know technology, I socialize, I also enjoy a good video game and love reading and seeing whats going on in the world of Marvel and DC, does that make me part chic or what? | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 8:33:33 PM | | I'd say so because I think woman are now finally appreciating the nice guys...and are done with the player types. How can you not like/be smitten by someone who treats you with respect :) | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 9:07:05 PM |
OK, I (and most of the people I know) consider me a geek....and I have absolutley no idea what you're talking about. You've come here to bash "geeks" make this claim and that but you are probably a bigger geek than most of the people commenting on this thread.
As for salary well, I don't know. What I DO know however is that my "geekiness" allowed me to sell my web hosting and web design company 6 years ago. It paid for my house and put enough in the bank to go to work in education without a real concern for how much I would make in yearly salary for the rest of my life.
Buddy, hate to break it to you but the "geeks" that work for me and the ones that used to work for me, almost all made over 6 figures.
Having said that, the fact that "geek" is chic is freaking karma man, freaking karma. Anyone want to play D&D?
Well you guys are the minority or maybe it's just where you live. My brother works in tech, granted in support, and makes 35k a year, my last roommate scripted c++ for the state and made about 40k. I know for a fact that most programmers, and info-tech employees aren't breaking 6 figures in my area. Those kind of salaries would be a pay-cut for me even tho I just work at a restaurant. Anyways...I think it's awesome that you have found so much unique success, I'm sure it must feel nice.
Btw...I'm not bashing geeks, I'm just saying mmo-game addicted geeks are not chic, even tho I personally love them. I would kill to find a hardcore gamer girl. | |
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| Are geeks the new chic?
Posted: 12/17/2007 9:54:09 PM | also D&D??? you are an ancient geek. Haven't bothered with that in over 15 years. The modern geek plays massively multi-player online role playing games...mmorpg. i.e world of warcraft, cox, lineage 2, evercrack, ashron's call, dark age of camelot, tabula rasa, flyff, rappelz, rf online...
d&d is so archaic. let the pc be your dungeon master, son. | |
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