| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/17/2007 7:04:00 PM | | Whats wrong with being girly? Don't be so judgemental.....thats what I say. Look i can be manipulative and it's fun when i can tell the guy is all talk or immature/a liar. However i realy like a guy who is adorable that is my own attraction;;;some women like tough men , some like ugly ones...remember "women" we are all unique and different we come from differnt cultures and that makes us all unique. So i like nice sweet guysbecause i feel safe to be nice and sweet back.......I don't like tough guys unless they realy are because they have that personality and even the hardest guys have some feelings.......... | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/17/2007 11:30:48 PM | | get me a beer women.ill be outside chopping wood and cleaning my rifle.lol.oh ya whens the last time i got a hummer.? | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 3:37:53 AM |
WHY?
WHY?
WHY?! .... Do men turn all 'girlie' when you start to date them? What ever happened to the Alpha Male? Is that just a myth in the business world?
Men, I love you. I love the way you love....I love how simple it is for you...you are amazing creatures when you are falling in love...
But for the life of me....why is it that you lose yourself when it comes to women? Being a door mat and doing whatever the girl wants is not attractive! Being a yes dear, no dear kinda guy is not attractive! Be a man! Speak your thoughts. If you don't like something we do, tell us instead of holding it back and allowing us to think you don't have a spine!
Take Charge! Be the man in the relationship. We want to feel like we are taken care of, not the other way around!!!
Ok, I needed to get this off my chest. Thanks.
While you're right about those who let themselves get walked all over (I've seen just as many girls do it as guys), there's a difference between being nice, and being a doormat.
In my experience, there seems to be a huge disparity between one extreme and the other. One group of women want a guy that's going to coddle her when she's sad and be the sponge that just absorbs all her negativity. Others want a guy to be macho to the point of insensitivity and callousness, so THEY can be the doormats, and have something to **** and moan about.
I don't put up with either one, and let me tell you, it's been a very long time since I've met a single girl that didn't fall very close to one of these two categories. Hence my Single Status. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 11:05:56 AM | Gee this subject reminds of an old girl friend. I asked her one Sunday afternoon if she really wanted to feel like a woman.
She said ya baby.
So i gave her a slap on the butt, told her to go get the boys another round before halftime ends, whip us up some nacho's and here's fifty bucks if she wanted to go shopping for the rest of the afternoon.
(j/k)  )
OT: doesn't it just drive men crazy when girls get all manly? | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 1:54:21 PM | One group of women want a guy that's going to coddle her when she's sad and be the sponge that just absorbs all her negativity. Others want a guy to be macho to the point of insensitivity and callousness, so THEY can be the doormats, and have something to **** and moan about.
And then there are those who want a guy to just be himself... fancy that, eh?  | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 2:12:43 PM | I just wanted to toast Euromaverick's response....I think he nailed it....actually.
I have never experienced the "doormat" effect you are complaining about.....maybe what you are really complaining about is something called "co-dependency" when someone totally looses themselves in someone else at the expense of their own personal self (oh...that was a huge bit of psycho blather..whatever)....and if you are only attracting codependent people then that is probably because something screams out from you "Please take care of me because I am incapable of taking care of myself." Oh wait...you did actually say something close to that. Hmmm...well...there is your problem. Solved. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 2:44:29 PM | | im going to get some porn and some beer,make sure you lock the doors,i wouldnt want you to get hurt.what did i tell you about keeping this gate shut?somebody could just come right in and steal my tolls or something.hope your ready for some lovin to night cause i got the urge real bad. | |
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Joined: 10/2/2007
Msg: 109 | |
| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 3:07:36 PM | | OP speak for yourself,it is not all of us that should like to be with a jerk. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 3:20:24 PM | | i really like you a lot ,but i dont know why because i have never thought about liking someone this much.we as guys are like that you know.ya ill take care of you,i just dont understand why i want to.i step back and start tying to make you feel good because i think thats what you want.i dont argue with you because i really like you and dont want you to be mad.oh ya i am hoping you feel the same way. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 3:40:46 PM | First off. Where the hell is Sterling heights, Yukon territories?? WTF Why are you from Michigan with Yukon territories as your place of residence?
Secondly. After you explain that, get your ass over here and give me some sugar. Sugar. :)
I thank you. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/18/2007 3:58:31 PM | In my own personal experience (as not to get roasted due to generalizing) it has been kinda like the whole "what do you want eat" discussion..
Me? I dont give a crap, i just wanna eat! So the lady says, "well pick a place", so you throw out four or five picks which all get shot down (and this is from the gal who describes herself as easy to please!)for 100 reasons none of those places seem to do the trick, so you end up eating somewhere you don't want to just to shut her up!
Basically it boils down to A LOT OF MEN just want peace and quite and A LOT OF WOMEN don't know what the hell they want, so in order for us to get along the men mistakenly "give way" and end up looking and/or acting like a big wuss; but in reality we are doing what we "think" you want us to do..Seems you 'think you know" what you want then when you get it, its not what you want at all!
Step up and "be a man" Ive heard, then when you do?
You're being a jerk!!???
just take your kick in the nuts and ask for more please..
That seems to be the solution! | |
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Joined: 1/23/2007
Msg: 113 | |
| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/19/2007 9:56:15 AM | Agree totally with last post! I'd like to add to the OP and any other women out there that think like this, I hope you meet a guy that treats you like garbage the rest of your life! You deserve it! Women like you create drama while the good unsuspecting guy that got involved with you tries to avoid it.
Here's a strange concept, how about acting more "girlie" yourself, more like a lady with some class that knows how to handle a decent guy. I truly believe women like this act this way as a defense mechanism to sabotage and kill good relationships! They don't know how to accept respect and I feel sorry for all you women.
The women that do this tend to be very manipulative, selfish, contradicting, and some of the least compassionate women you will ever run into. So to the OP and all the other women that think like her, YOU HAVE NO CLASS AND AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO CONTROL AND MANIPULATE SITUATIONS, SPEND MORE TIME GETTING THE MUCH NEEDED THERAPY YOU NEED FOR YOUR SICK MENTAL STATE! I HOPE YOU GET HELP WITH THE ISSUES YOU HAVE BY ACTING LIKE THIS! | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/19/2007 10:26:33 AM | Whoa, that was a little harsh. Why can't men and women just treat each other as equals and be done with this kind of nit picking? Nobody's perfect, for crying out loud. If I see a man is acting all girlie around me, I'd start treating him like a man, and we'd both start having fun. 
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/19/2007 10:47:35 AM | | well thats it.im going to buy some new soes that go with the sweater i bought and nice big steak,then i am going to come home watch the game and drink beer,but when i fart ill be sure to spray a nice rose scented air freshner.when the games over ill have a nice heart felt conversation with my girl,after which i will i will bend her over a chair for a while throw her a towel and go to bed. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/19/2007 11:04:39 AM | I totally agree with excogitator. This Alpha male stuff is bunch of bullshit. The first time I heard this phrase was when ALGORE was being coached by an image consultant. So,it came from the left of the political spectrum. It's, also, a new term-- post 1980's. We used to call this behavior "macho." Except it was never so overarching and accepted in the cultural proposphere-as being the way to behave.Being a self serving ***hole has become superior to "treating others as you would like to be treated."
Being civil, thoughful, nice and even doing selfless acts while you are in love is now, predominately, negative.The culture has become coarsened, and crude. and barbaric. And it's going to get worse.
These women are not capable of healthy relationships, and what they are doing is creating an atmosphere --where more and more men are going to become players-- how else can you conform to her contradicting double-binds without a flexible image and persona? She requires a player. So, the players are increasing. And those newly minted players won't give too shits about her feelings will they? Why should guys care about these selfish, uncompassionate, unappreciative, unfeminine, cruel females? Why should they care!
Bone and Throw. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/19/2007 6:46:08 PM |  Me, I always play the Jekyll and Hyde character. For the beginning of a relationship or getting to know a woman, I be nice (not sweet) just nice but forward. As time goes on (about 2 months) I switch to Extreme mean and keep it like that. Once I have to woman punked then I switch back to the Jekyll character (Mr. Nice Guy) then switch back again. It gets to the point that the woman does not know when I would snap or for what reason. All in all they like me, and spend alot of time trying to contain the Ogre in me. But then again I am really like that...so its natural.  | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/19/2007 7:31:38 PM |
Gwendolyn....
I'm not saying we want a bully. All I am saying is.....
When men start to fall in love they lose themselves. All of a sudden what they think, or want does not matter. They just want to please the woman. And I must reinstate...when men BEGIN to fall in love with a woman.
My experience is that they become a door mat trying to please the woman when in reality all she wants is an opinion or a thought that is not based on how she is feeling. It's like they (men) are so afraid that if they screw up, she will leave him but the truth is, voicing your opinion or thought is far more attractive than having someone kissing your azz all the time.
Comprende?
ok, you should find someone who doesn't love you then. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/19/2007 11:59:46 PM | | what we think or want doesnt matter,because we dont understand what we are feeling.just that we like it and dont want it to go away.dont worry it passes and we go back to being the a hole you crave.lol. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/20/2007 10:10:30 AM | Did you learn anything from this?
What have you learned? I dare you to tell us.
I DARE YOU. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/20/2007 2:48:02 PM |
What have you learned? I dare you to tell us.
I DARE YOU.
Well.....since you DARED ME.....
Here goes....
I have learned that your picture and pose in your profile is a little.....GIRLIE!!! | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/20/2007 2:51:34 PM |
Take Charge! Be the man in the relationship. We want to feel like we are taken care of, not the other way around!!!
I hear you.
Now can you get me another beer. | |
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| When men get all GIRLIE.
Posted: 12/20/2007 4:44:23 PM | The term "alpha male" technically doesn't even apply to humans or atleast it shouldn't. It applies to dogs. as in the "leader of the pack" I think Human males are a little more complex then a pack of wild dogs.
The problem with women specifically like the OP is that they clearly suffer from the dreaded old princess syndrome. In other words they have an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. Not only do they want a guy who only expresses certain types of emotions (and only when she wants you to) but they also want someone who's all macho, and "takes charge" someone who is a leader most likely taller then average, and most likely earns an above average income. so they can be taken care of. (I was under the impression that relationships were about taking care of eachother) These women seriously believe they deserve such a man and are entitled to one simply because it's what they want. Fast forward 20 years later and they're still single wondering where are all the so called "alpha males" I'm sorry honey, but it's not all about you. If you want such a man you need to show what exactly makes you so desirable so that another man has to take care of you instead of you taking care of yourself.
Women being self sufficient and secure with themselves it's quite popular
perhaps you should try it. | |
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